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David Von Pein  
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 More options May 13 2007, 5:33 pm
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
From: David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com>
Date: 13 May 2007 14:33:41 -0700
Local: Sun, May 13 2007 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: WEBSITE FOR VINCE BUGLIOSI'S "RECLAIMING HISTORY" OFFERS UP SOM...
PAT SPEER WROTE:

>>> "Stone instead created a counter-myth, using evidence culled from the Warren Commission's 26 volumes and the Jim Garrison investigation of Clay Shaw." <<<

DVP WRITES BACK::

Exactly, Pat. Oliver's movie is a "myth", plain and simple. It's not
the "counter-myth" that I've heard Mr. Stone speak of, however....and
that's because the WCR is not a "myth" in any fashion whatsoever.
That's the "CTer" in you talking (and the one in Mr. Stone too).

The WCR is based on the HARD EVIDENCE of Oswald's lone guilt in the
two murders LHO committed in 1963 (JFK's & Tippit's). Vince Bugliosi
said it as succinctly and accurately as anyone possibly could when he
said: "Any denial of Oswald's guilt is not worthy of serious
discussion". Truer words never passed human lips.

BTW, Stone's movie is HARDLY "culled from the WC's 26 volumes".
There's virtually nothing of a factual, WC-based nature in that film.
As VB said, when you're 0-for-53, that's hardly worthy of any praise
at all. You should be benched for the rest of the season with a .000
average like that! It's idiotic!

>>> "He {O. Stone} was under no obligation to prove that his "counter-myth" was true." <<<

Yeah, just let the gullible public watch the movie and decide, right?
(All the while going "0-for-53" in the "Factual Data" department.
Pathetic.)

>>> "The American people, not to mention the U.S. House of Representatives, had already decisively REJECTED the Warren Report, and Stone was simply offering an alternative scenario." <<<

Which is an alternative scenario without a shred of validity to it.
Not to mention an alternate "Patsy" scenario that is laughable from
even a conspiracy POV -- i.e., how on Earth are the "plotters"
supposed to be able to successfully frame their lone Patsy if they
shoot JFK with 6 shots and from THREE SEPARATE LOCATIONS?! It's almost
as preposterous as David Lifton's "body-altering" nonsense.

To continue with my baseball analogy (since I already started one
earlier) -- If Oliver Stone, instead of making a film about Kennedy's
murder, had made a movie about the 1960 World Series (a true-life
event with only one FACTUAL outcome, based on "Baseball Evidence",
such as "runs, hits, and errors")....would it be proper for Mr. Stone
to play around with the outcome of the final game, where Bill
Mazeroski swats his dramatic Series-winning home run in Pittsburgh?

In such a film, should perhaps Stone consider altering the ending of
that World Series, by having Yogi Berra climbing the left-field fence
and snaring Maz's long drive? And then the Yankees could go on and win
the Series, instead of the Pirates.

Maybe that's not a spot-on perfect analogy, but perhaps somebody will
get my point there. Mr. Stone deliberately skewed the KNOWN, HARD
FACTS IN EVIDENCE re. the JFK assassination in his 1991 movie. And
everybody should be made aware of the MANY things Stone intentionally
twisted in that film...things that he damn well COULD have portrayed
accurately.

One good example being the deplorable re-enactment of the J.D. Tippit
murder, which Stone (and Jim Garrison too, per his nutty theories) has
committed (naturally) by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald. There's
NOTHING re. that murder of Tippit that is correct in the film. Even
down to Oswald being seen with his jacket still on as he was seen by
Johnny Brewer on Jefferson Boulevard. That's a small thing; but it's
just one more inaccuracy (among over 100) in Stone's movie.

Shouldn't at least a FEW of the known facts come to light in a movie
about John Kennedy's REAL MURDER? If not...why the hell not?

>>> "It clearly drives Bugliosi bonkers that so many prefer Stone's scenario to his own." <<<

Damn right it does. It drives me bonkers too. Has for years.
Especially when I see young people (who only know of the JFK case by
way of that singular source of Stone's incredibly-inaccurate motion
picture) prop up that movie as the Holy Grail of "truth" with respect
to the way JFK met his Maker. That type of reaction to the nonsense we
see in Stone's film is more than enough reason, all by itself, for Mr.
Bugliosi to spend many, many pages in his book tearing down the so-
called "Counter-Myth" known as "Oliver Stone's JFK".

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