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aggie

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Apr 25, 2010, 10:16:47 PM4/25/10
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This is definitely the most entertaining group on usenet! I just get such a
huge kick out of all the conspiracy people who can’t even agree WHICH
conspiracy it was. They all chase after different scenarios like a dog
chasing after its tail. It’s hilarious! You’d think that intelligent people
examining the same facts would come to the same conclusion, but you’d be
wrong! The really funny thing, though, is that even if there were
incontrovertible proof that there was a conspiracy, 99% of the conspiracy
believers would reject it because it wasn’t THEIR theory! They’d think it
was ANOTHER conspiracy in an endless chain of conspiracies! I love it! I
suppose it’s not politically correct to make fun of the mentally deficient,
even though they’re fun to watch. My bad.

David Von Pein

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Apr 25, 2010, 10:15:46 PM4/25/10
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<applause, applause>

Ben Holmes

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Apr 26, 2010, 12:15:53 AM4/26/10
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In article <20100425215208.317$H...@newsreader.com>, aggie says...

Another troll who cannot explain the known evidence, so prefers ad hominem
attacks instead.

An excellent demonstration of history - for if the evidence actually *did*
support the WCR - such trolls would be at most, a minority... instead, they
compose roughly 90% of LNT'ers...

Of course, if you *really* want to examine "the facts", my series titled "45
Questions" deals exclusively with those facts - and strangely enough, you can't
provide a reasonable and non-conspiratorial explanation for any of them...

How does it feel to be in the minority, and in the same ballpark percentage of
Americans who believe that the Moon landing happened in an Arizona desert? Or
that Elvis is still alive?


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Ben Holmes
Learn to Make Money with a Website - http://www.burningknife.com

aeffects

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Apr 26, 2010, 3:27:28 AM4/26/10
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'nother fucking moronic *aggie* from Texas.... probably owns 3 KFC
franchises heard about Von Prism and cirtcling his wagons..... LMFAO.

What we need here is a few lone nut trolls that are versed in case
evidence, you know, like, pretend it was 15 years ago, when nutters
had brains......

So pack it up lone star, shove that starup that brown place, you know
where the sun don't shine, Von Pein will help you out, he's a pro and
he knows that fictitous, mythological, Rosemary of Vinnie fame....

timstter

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Apr 26, 2010, 4:28:51 AM4/26/10
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On Apr 26, 2:15 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <20100425215208.317...@newsreader.com>, aggie says...

LOL! Sure thing, Yellow Pants.

Still hiding behind your killfilter anytime a substantive argument is
offered?

Your failed Z 369 theory is basically EXACTLY THE SAME as Jack
White's, known Moon landing hoax theorist!

KUTGW, Benny!

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

Bud

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Apr 26, 2010, 7:54:59 AM4/26/10
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On Apr 26, 12:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <20100425215208.317...@newsreader.com>, aggie says...

>
>
>
> >This is definitely the most entertaining group on usenet! I just get such a
> >huge kick out of all the conspiracy people who can’t even agree WHICH
> >conspiracy it was. They all chase after different scenarios like a dog
> >chasing after its tail. It’s hilarious! You’d think that intelligent people
> >examining the same facts would come to the same conclusion, but you’d be
> >wrong! The really funny thing, though, is that even if there were
> >incontrovertible proof that there was a conspiracy, 99% of the conspiracy
> >believers would reject it because it wasn’t THEIR theory! They’d think it
> >was ANOTHER conspiracy in an endless chain of conspiracies! I love it! I
> >suppose it’s not politically correct to make fun of the mentally deficient,
> >even though they’re fun to watch. My bad.
>
> Another troll who cannot explain the known evidence, so prefers ad hominem
> attacks instead.

This poster wasn`t talking about the case, just offered some
observations and insight into the conspiracy retards looking into it.

> An excellent demonstration of history - for if the evidence actually *did*
> support the WCR - such trolls would be at most, a minority... instead, they
> compose roughly 90% of LNT'ers...

Reasoning with the conspiracy retards was tried for a few decades.
The people who attempted this, being reasonable people, saw the
futility of trying to reason with retards and moved on.
Leaving mostly only those willing to make sport and taunt said
conspiracy retards, so you may be right about the percentage, but
wrong about how that figure came about.

> Of course, if you *really* want to examine "the facts", my series titled "45
> Questions" deals exclusively with those facts -

Mostly Ben`s opinions gussied up as facts.

> and strangely enough, you can't
> provide a reasonable and non-conspiratorial explanation for any of them...

After decades of intense effort, this is all they can offer. They
can`t show their ideas are valid, so they challenge others to prove a
negative.

> How does it feel to be in the minority, and in the same ballpark percentage of
> Americans who believe that the Moon landing happened in an Arizona desert? Or
> that Elvis is still alive?

Ben has been making claims about the beliefs of the public for
years, but has yet to support these claims.

I`ve seen polls that show that most people believe Oswald was
shooting at Kennedy, but Ben doesn`t believe this, so his beliefs
cannot be mainstream.

Bud

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Apr 26, 2010, 8:03:58 AM4/26/10
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On Apr 26, 3:27 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 7:16 pm, aggie <agnesd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This is definitely the most entertaining group on usenet! I just get such a
> > huge kick out of all the conspiracy people who can’t even agree WHICH
> > conspiracy it was. They all chase after different scenarios like a dog
> > chasing after its tail. It’s hilarious! You’d think that intelligent people
> > examining the same facts would come to the same conclusion, but you’d be
> > wrong! The really funny thing, though, is that even if there were
> > incontrovertible proof that there was a conspiracy, 99% of the conspiracy
> > believers would reject it because it wasn’t THEIR theory! They’d think it
> > was ANOTHER conspiracy in an endless chain of conspiracies! I love it! I
> > suppose it’s not politically correct to make fun of the mentally deficient,
> > even though they’re fun to watch. My bad.
>
> 'nother fucking moronic *aggie* from Texas.... probably owns 3 KFC
> franchises heard about Von Prism and cirtcling his wagons..... LMFAO.

Nothing about the points this poster made? He (an assumption there)
pointed out that you crack retards detectives are all over the place,
which is what you would expect if you had clueless dumbfucks running
an investigation, but not what you would expect if you had astute
minds hot on the trail, following the clues to the source.

> What we need here is a few lone nut trolls that are versed in case
> evidence, you know, like, pretend it was 15 years ago, when nutters
> had brains......

And used them to figure out what a waste of time it was to be
arguing with conspiracy retards about what they choose to believe.

> So pack it up lone star, shove that starup that brown place, you know
> where the sun don't shine, Von Pein will help you out, he's a pro and
> he knows that fictitous, mythological, Rosemary of Vinnie fame....

<snicker> In the retard universe, you get to select who is real and
who is not.

David Von Pein

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Apr 26, 2010, 8:22:20 AM4/26/10
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>>> "In the retard universe [WHERE HEALY IS KING, QUEEN, AND GRAND POOBAH ALL ROLLED INTO ONE], you get to select who is real and who is not." <<<

Even when these words are to be found in Mr. Bugliosi's book (maybe
Bugliosi is only a figment too, per the retard):

"And then there is Rosemary Newton, who has been like my
secretary for this book ["Reclaiming History"]. Though Rosemary works
freelance, typing this book has been her main job, occupying most of
her working day for many years. (And in the last several years the
times have been many when I have also asked Rosemary to search for
something on the Internet for me.)

"I wrote and dictated at my home and then made literally
hundreds of trips to Rosemary's home in the hills, picking up drafts
of sections she had typed and dropping off new work for her. Rosemary
has had a very tough job working with me on this book, yet she was
always competent and extraordinarily reliable. In a way, she worked
more closely with me than anyone else and became the person on whom I
relied the most.

"In addition to transcribing, from my audio dictation, the
contents of 72 sixty-minute and 8 ninety-minute tapes, during which
she had to listen to my less-than-dulcet voice and my speaking a mile
a minute, Rosemary had to decipher and type at least a thousand (maybe
many more) inserts of mine handwritten in pencil on yellow legal
paper. .... If you could read some of these inserts you would have
great compassion for Rosemary. ....

"Often the pages and flow of the point I was trying to make got
so garbled with inserts, deletions, arrows, et cetera, that it was
impossible for me, the architect of the madness, to follow. Yet
Rosemary never complained and more than once figured out my own
labyrinth for me.

"As if the above were not enough, a great number of times I
would write so small on a page (to squeeze in what I wanted in the
only space available) that without a magnifying glass only the world's
most myopic person could read what I had written.

"I don't have to tell Rosemary how very grateful I am to her.
She deserves some type of medal." -- V. Bugliosi; Page 1514 of "RH"

robcap...@netscape.com

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Apr 26, 2010, 9:41:07 AM4/26/10
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There was NO official or authoritative LEGAL investigation into who
was behind the conspiracy, thus, you have many people making their
theory the ONLY one that could have happened. Some of these people
are actually paid shills for the government posing as CTers. YOU have
folks like Gary Mack becoming LNers after years of research showing
them a conspiracy happened! The evidence has NOT changed, so what
makes folks like Mack and Palamara wake up one day and say, "Oh crap,
I was wrong for the last x years, and despite NONE of the evidence
changing in terms of showing there was a conspiracy, I will just
believe I am wrong and accept the LHO did it all by himself stuff!"

Folks like Lamar Waldron are just the latest stooges in this game of
cat and mouse. ANY CTer who is getting constant shows on Discovery
and History Channel to TELL THEIR VERSION OF EVENTS (in his case the
Mob did it all by themselves with a little help from some "rogue" CIA
folks), and getting ACCESS TO KEY MEMBERS OF JFK'S CABINET is probably
a government shill! Can you imagine McNamara or Rusk sitting down for
an interview with Mark Lane?? Or Harold Weisberg? Waldron BLAMES NO-
ONE in the government INCLUDING Hoover and LBJ! The last time I
looked COVERING UP A CRIME WAS A CRIME! He places as much or MORE
blame on RFK than Hoover and LBJ!

ALL real CTers know there was a conspiracy (and so does the other 89%
of our country) but due to NO legal investigation to narrow down the
suspect list you get a lot of theories pointing at different folks.
IF ALL LNers took the time to really study how things work in the
world they would learn all these groups are NOT as seperate as they
appear, thus they all could have been used, or made to appear to be
involved, to keep their mouths and files shut.

The ONLY groups who were NOT involved for sure IMO were Castro and the
Soviets as they had NO reason to want JFK dead as he was moving to
things that would have been great for their countries! ALL they got
in his place was a war hawk who was similar to a loose cannon, NO
upside for either of them!

Why don't you point out the key pieces of evidence that you think
shows LHO did it all by himself and let us see how you reached your
conclusion?

Cue the silence!

lazu...@webtv.net

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Apr 26, 2010, 5:56:32 PM4/26/10
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Good post Rob- money doesn't talk, it swears...I give you Mack,
Bugliosi, and Posner, ... I rest my case.

timstter

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Apr 27, 2010, 4:57:12 AM4/27/10
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Reclaiming History is a MONUMENTAL work in the JFK assassination
literature. Rosemary Newton's efforts in this worthy endeavour
certainly dwarf lightweight dross like David *aeffects* Healy's
chapter on, uh, *Z Film Alteration* as published in Assassination
Science.

Let's not forget that Healy's editor in that effort was Jim Fetzer,
noted 9/11 theorist and organiser of Scholars For Truth, LOL!

David Von Pein

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Apr 27, 2010, 6:27:26 AM4/27/10
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Tim Brennan used a word in his last Healy-bashing post that I wasn't
familiar with -- "dross". I have never once seen that word in print.

So, to Webster's I ran.

It's an apt word for Healy too. And each of these three definitions
applies nicely to Mr. Crackpipe (Healy), whichever one you choose:

DROSS:
1 : the scum that forms on the surface of molten metal
2 : waste or foreign matter
3 : something that is base, trivial, or inferior

robcap...@netscape.com

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:26:29 AM4/27/10
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On Apr 26, 5:56 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
> Good post Rob- money doesn't talk, it swears...I give you Mack,
> Bugliosi, and Posner, ... I rest my case.

The sad part Laz for the converts is they think no-one who is really
familiar with this case will notice they are doing it for the money!

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