Jean Hill: Reliable Witness (Or Not)?
David Von Pein
last seconds of President John F. Kennedy's life as Lee Harvey Oswald
was firing three rifle shots at the President from the Texas School
Book Depository in downtown Dallas, Texas, which resulted in JFK's
death on November 22nd, 1963.
Within Hill's 1992 book ("JFK: The Last Dissenting Witness") can be
found the following passage.....
"Hill saw the shadowy figure of a man fire at President Kennedy from
behind a picket fence atop the now-famous grassy knoll."
Anyone who owns a lot of archival TV footage of those four bleak days
following JFK's assassination will easily be able to verify what I
have verified via just such an archive of video material. And that is
the fact that, on 11/22/63 (within less than two hours of the shooting
itself), Jean Hill appeared on television (via a WBAP-TV tape-recorded
interview), where she explicitly says she never saw anyone firing any
weapon at the President.....
QUESTION: "Did you see the person who fired the weapon?"
JEAN HILL: "No, I didn't see any person fire the weapon."
QUESTION: "You only heard it?"
JEAN HILL: "I only heard it."
What is a person to make of this flip-flop in Hill's testimony
regarding the events of November 22nd? Logically, her earliest account
of the shooting (which has been recorded on videotape for all to watch
and listen to over and over again) should be looked upon as the BEST
account of what she saw that Friday afternoon back in '63.
But nearly thirty years later -- after having served just months
earlier as an official (but uncredited) "technical adviser" to Oliver
Stone during the making of Stone's 1991 film "JFK" (coincidence?) --
Hill came out with her "Last Dissenting Witness" book, which claims
she "saw a man fire at President Kennedy from the grassy knoll".
Did Jean's memory suddenly improve greatly in the intervening years?
Everyone should at least pause for a few moments to consider that
question.
Another major piece of Jean Hill-created "evidence" that is easily
knocked down is her ridiculous claim of having seen Oswald's murderer,
Jack Ruby, racing across the grassy knoll at the exact time of JFK's
assassination.
Multiple witnesses can place Jack Ruby in the Dallas Morning News
building at the precise time the President was being murdered. Ruby
himself, in fact, admits to having been in the DMN building at the
time of the assassination.
Below is a portion of the verbatim testimony given by Jack Ruby to the
Warren Commission on June 7th, 1964 (from the Dallas County Jail,
where Ruby was being held after having been convicted on March 14,
1964, of murdering JFK's assassin, Lee Oswald):
~~~~~~
"I picked up the brochure that Friday morning {November 22, 1963}, and
I also had business at the {Dallas Morning} News Building on Friday,
because that is the start of the weekend, which is very lucrative, the
weekend.
"So I went down there Friday morning to Tony Zoppi's office, and they
said he went to New Orleans for a couple of days. I picked up the
brochure. I believe I got downtown there at 10:30 or 11 o'clock that
morning. And I took the brochure and then went into the main room
where we compose our ads. That is the sales room where we placed our
ads. And I remained there for a while. I started to write the copy of
my ad.
"Well, John Newnam comes in, and evidently he took it for granted I
finished my ad, and I don't recall if he paid for his ad, and suddenly
there is some milling around. I think it was 12, or 15 minutes after
12, I don't recall what, but John Newnam said someone had been shot.
And I am sorry, I got carried away. It is the first time I got carried
away, because I had been under pressure.
"And someone else came running over and he said a Secret Service man
was shot, or something to that effect. And I am here in the middle
with John Newnam, because Newnam isn't paying any attention to anyone
else, and there is a lot of going back and forth. So someone must have
made a statement that Governor Connally was shot. I don't recall what
was said. And I was in a state of hysteria." -- Jack Ruby
~~~~~~
Therefore, how is it even remotely possible for Jean Hill to have seen
Jack Ruby on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza at 12:30 PM when
President Kennedy was being shot? Quite obviously, this is not
possible.
But Jean Hill and Oliver Stone (in his movie) would like to have
people believe that Ruby was running around Dealey Plaza's grassy
slopes at 12:30 PM on November 22nd, instead of where even Ruby
himself admits he was at the time of the assassination (with multiple
witnesses to verify his story) -- and that was on the second floor of
the Dallas Morning News building.
Jean Hill passed away in Dallas on November 7, 2000, at the age of 69.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0882899228
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jhill.htm
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SOME RELATED THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE 11/22/63 WITNESSES:
I'm guessing that in a conspiracy theorist's fantasy world the only
people with bad eyesight, or the only people capable of making an
error, are those witnesses who gave testimony damning to "Saint
Oswald" -- E.G.: Howard Brennan, Helen Markham, Ted Callaway, Jack
Tatum, Virginia Davis, Barbara Davis, William Scoggins, Johnny Brewer,
Warren Reynolds, L.J. Lewis, Pat Patterson, Harold Russell, Robert
Edwards, Ronald Fischer, etc.
But, if we're to believe the CTers, those conspiracy-favoring
witnesses like Jean Hill and S.M. Holland and Acquilla Clemons, et al,
were somehow born with unimpeachable "Conspiracy-Noticing" skills.
Acquilla Clemons' account of the J.D. Tippit murder is taken as Gospel
by many a-CTer, despite the wholly-ILLOGICAL "plot" that she
supposedly witnessed on Tenth Street that day.....
I.E.:
Having TWO killers conspire to commit the Tippit murder, even though
the conspirators' #1 goal here is to FRAME JUST ONE SINGLE "PATSY" FOR
THIS MURDER (namely someone called "Lee Harvey Oswald").
Smart, huh?
Let's use TWO killers (needlessly, of course, for a practically point-
blank killing of a policeman, who was just inches from the gun of the
killer), instead of just using our trusty, present-at-every-murder-
Oswald-supposedly-ever-committed-in-his-life "LHO Imposter" to do the
job.
What school for covert acts did these plotters graduate from anyway --
"The Academy For Brain-Dead Conspirators"?
Nobody could be as stupid and reckless as these November 22nd Plotters/
Conspirators were said to have been (per CT-slanted versions of
events). Not possible. And this recklessness extends far beyond just
the Tippit murder scene as well. In fact, it applies ever more so to
the JFK killing in Dealey Plaza.
Example:
WHY in the world would these professional killers even WANT to utilize
THREE teams of assassins (as Oliver Stone claims in his movie), firing
six bullets potentially into their one target (JFK) from a variety of
different shooting locations, when the whole idea of this intricate,
supposedly-well-planned "plot" is to frame just a single "Patsy" who
is supposed to be located in the Book Depository? Did these
conspirators deliberately TRY to make their assassination scheme as
complicated and implausible as they possibly could? Seems like it.
And yet Oliver Stone actually has people buying this stuff. Kinda sad,
huh? I think so anyway.
Well, anyhow, whatever you do, take the contents of Jean Hill's 1992
book (and all of her post-November 22nd statements) with a very large-
sized grain of salt. (That advice goes double, make that triple, for
viewers of Oliver Stone's motion picture as well.)
David Von Pein
October 2005
lazu...@webtv.net
according to Dr. thomas's study which matches up perfectly with the
ZFilm, therefore making the odds of random noises miniscule-as far as a
shot or two from the knoll- her impressions are corroborated by Holland,
Brehm, Sitzman, Todd, Winborn, Murphy, Simmons, Altgens, J.C. Price,
McKinnon- you guys ought to do some homework before you lie.
David Von Pein
And she also (later on, not on 11/22) said she SAW a gunman taking aim
at JFK from the Knoll.
So....overall, is she a very reliable witness?
Yes, she did maintain "4 to 6 shots" from Day 1 (11/22). I will give
her that much. But also keep in mind in conjunction with her "shot
count", that she's NOT a "Multi-Directional Witness".
IOW, she heard ALL the shots she said she heard coming from the SAME
PLACE (the Knoll area). Which, of course, we KNOW is dead-wrong.
So, again...overall, is she a very "reliable" witness to what really
occurred in DP on November 22?
I say...no, she is/(was) not. Not at all.
cdddraftsman
never do your homework ! Baffoon ! ..........tl
Martin Shackelford
things mixed in.
Martin
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