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Barb Junkkarinen

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May 15, 2008, 4:57:19 PM5/15/08
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There is no shortage of internet posts and pages where claims of
Judyth having received a scholarship and grants from the National
Science Foundation appear. Sometimes the word "scholarship" is used,
sometimes the word "grant."

On page 22 of her book, Judyth writes about her finishing the summer
program at Poswell Park::

QUOTE

...I received several grants and awards. The summer program finished,
I was one of only three students from Roswell Park selected continue
research under a National Science Foundation grant supplemented by the
National Cancer Institute.

[.....]

In fact, this assignment would continue to be mine for the next two
years, funded by the American Cancer Society, The National Science
Foundation, and other agencies via special grants. 59.

END QUOTE

The "59" goes to a source note that says, on page 650,

QUOTE

I have a sheaf of documents detailing the apportionment of grants to
the University of Florida under which I was funded....

END QUOTE

Martin says he has seen ALL of her documentation. Perhaps he can
direct us to this "sheaf."

Also on page 22 of her book, is a newspaper clipping from her local
paper, undated and titled "Judy Vary to Continue" ... one that has
been discussed here before, it is the one relating how she arrived
home from Roswell Park six buses late The article also notes that
Judyth would be leaving for her freshman year at St. Francis College
in Indiana in a few days, "under a $1300 scholarship from the National
Science Foundation."

She claims grants from other agencies as well, but here I am just
dealing with the National Science Foundation.

In a post from 8-11-04, Judyth said:

QUOTE

Note that in the other article, I received the
equivalent of $8,400 in today's funds form the National Science
Foundation to study what makes cancer more deadly while in college.

END QUOTE

Here is a post from Martin after I had received an e-mail from Roswell
Park saying that Judyth had not completed the summer program but had
been dismissed from it (RP has NOT retracted that information, btw):

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Date: 22 Mar 2008 11:10:02 -0400
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How do you explain the fact that when the program ended, she received
her National Science Foundation scholarship? I wouldn't think they
would go ahead and give that to someone who was "dismissed."

Martin

END QUOTE

So, there is no doubt that there is a claim of Judyth being given
scholarship/grant money from the National Science Foundation for her
cancer research, not only in 1961 (which is my primary focus here) but
also while at the University of Florida which would include 1962 and
1963.

And in a reply to me on 10-18-07, Martin said:

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Also, you seem to be confusing the NSF grants. She participated in
Roswell
under an NSF grant to Roswell. As a result of her work at Roswell, she
THEN received an NSF scholarship--these are two separate things, Barb.


Martin

END QUOTE

I am not confused in the least. Judyth, LIKE OTHER STUDENTS IN THE
SUMMER PROGRAM, was paid their stipend from grants monies RP received
from the NSF and other agencies. That is how the program is supported.
Students receive a stipend that is essentially their "pay" which they
then have to cover their living expenses, incidentals, etc. These were
not NSF grants to any individual student.

That is a whole different thing from Judyth being given a scholarship
or grant to continue her cancer research ... on the heels of RP
entering St. Francis College in the Fall of 1961 in Indiana, or in
1962/1963 while at the University of Florida, Gainesville.

Much could be related about how the National Science Foundation that,
as they themselves note on their webpage,....

"As described in our strategic plan, NSF is the only federal agency
whose mission includes support for all fields of fundamental science
and engineering, except for medical sciences. "

http://nsf.gov/about/

And how the government partner agency that funds medical research is
the National Institutes of Health, and the specific arm of that that
funds cancer research is the National Cancer Institue, but there
really is no reason to get bogged down there as the following
documents tell exactly what institutuons, what projects ... and what
people received National Science Foundation grants and fellowships in
1961 ...and 1962 ... and 1963. They gave no scholarships ... just
grants and fellowships.

These are the annual reports that detail every penny given out ... to
whom and why ... in those 3 years.

http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1961/annualreports/start.htm

http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1962/annualreports/start.htm

http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1963/annualreports/start.htm

There is nary a Vary in any of them.

Barb :-)


Martin Shackelford

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May 16, 2008, 5:12:40 AM5/16/08
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Like any good magician, Barb practices indirection in her effort to make
her attack case.
The NSF scholarship paid for her attendance at Roswell Park.
An American Cancer Society scholarship paid for her tuition at St. Francis
College--and would hardly have done so had she been dismissed, as Barb
falsely claims, from Roswell Park.
We have a copy of the cover letter sent with the scholarship check.
http://the-puzzle-palace.com/JudythACSmoneyletter.jpeg
This is on the site that Barb claims to have carefully examined, yet she
makes no mention of this document.

Martin

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William Yates

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May 16, 2008, 1:53:04 PM5/16/08
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Martin Shackelford wrote:
> Like any good magician, Barb practices indirection in her effort to make
> her attack case.
> The NSF scholarship paid for her attendance at Roswell Park.
> An American Cancer Society scholarship paid for her tuition at St. Francis
> College--and would hardly have done so had she been dismissed, as Barb
> falsely claims, from Roswell Park.
> We have a copy of the cover letter sent with the scholarship check.
> http://the-puzzle-palace.com/JudythACSmoneyletter.jpeg
> This is on the site that Barb claims to have carefully examined, yet she
> makes no mention of this document.
>
> Martin

As you are fond of telling others, you need to try reading for
comprehension. Barb states in her post that she is only dealing with the
NSF, not the ACS or anything else. And this article

http://the-puzzle-palace.com/JudythRoswellPark.jpeg

says that Judyth will attend St. Francis "under a $1300 scholarship from
the National Science Foundation."

The ACS letter letter says that Judyth "won this grant through her work
in the State Science Talent Search of 1961 in Florida." Nothing about
Roswell Park, one way or the other.

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