On Apr 5, 4:10 pm, Walt <
papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 11:16 am, Bud <
sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
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> > On Apr 5, 11:05 am, Walt <
papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 5, 5:28 am, Willy Gingersnaps <
fatoldcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > "Endless" investigation? I guess you can't be guilty of that, since you didn't even know there were two Casters, you Fruit Of The Loom skid puddle.
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> > > Don't you realize that simple minds like simple solutions?....
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> > Retards like to write their own script. It`s a retard hobby that has
> > no bearing on reality. In what fucking world would an investigation
> > think two people that are in no way implicated in the crime being
> > investigated would be significant and worthy of looking into? Only in
> > the bizarro world you idiots imagine are things like this done.
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> > > Lner's are content with the simple solution that Lee Oswald murdered
> > > John Kennedy for no reason.
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> > Psst, Walt, Oswald was a political fanatic.
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> Psst, Walt, Oswald was a political fanatic.
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> You don't have a clue..... Political fanatics love to talk about
> politics..
That is a generalized and meaningless statement. Oswald was
introspective and he wasn`t doing these things for others. He was
doing them to live up to his own ideas of how a man of quality
responds and reacts. You idiots dwell on all the trivial things
Delgado related but don`t consider the things he said that were
actually relevant to the assassination. Like this...
"Mr. LIEBELER - Can you tell us some more about your discussions with
Oswald concerning the Castro movement or the situation in Cuba?
Mr. DELGADO - We had quite many discussions regarding Castro. At the
time I was in favor of Castro, I wholeheartedly supported him, and
made it known that I thought he was a pretty good fellow, and that was
one of the main things Oswald and I always hit off so well, we were
along the same lines of thought. Castro at the time showed all
possibilities of being a freedom-loving man, a democratic sort of
person, that was going to do away with all tyranny and finally give
the Cuban people a break. But then he turned around and started to
purge the Russian purge, started executing all these pro-Batistas or
anybody associated with a pro-Batista, just word of mouth. I would say
he is a Batista, and right away they would grab him, give him a
kangaroo court and shoot him. He and I had discussed about that, and
right and wrong way that he should have gone about doing it.
Castro at the time, his brother Raoul was the only known Communist,
and I mentioned the fact that he was a Communist, but that although
Castro was the leader, I doubt if he would follow the Communist line
of life, you know. At the time I don't remember Che Guevra being
there. He came in after that. And we talked how we would like to go to
Cuba and----
Mr. LIEBELER - You and Oswald did?
Mr. DELGADO - Right. We were going to become officers, you know,
enlisted men. We are dreaming now, right? So we were going to become
officers. So we had a head start, you see. We were getting honorable
discharges, while Morgan--there was a fellow in Cuba at the time, he
got a dishonorable discharge from, the Army, and he went to Castro and
fought with Castro in the Escambres.
Mr. LIEBELER - A fellow named Morgan?
Mr. DELGADO - Yes; Henry Morgan--not Henry, but it was Morgan, though;
and at the end of the revolution he came out with the rank of major,
you know.
So we were all thinking, well, honorable discharge, and I speak
Spanish and he's got his ideas of how a government should be run, you
know, the same line as Castro did at that time.
Mr. LIEBELER - Oswald?
Mr. DELGADO - Right. So we could go over there and become officers and
lead an expedition to some of these other islands and free them too,
you know, from--this was really weird, you know, but----
Mr. LIEBELER - That is what you and Oswald talked about?
Mr. DELGADO - Right, things like that; and how we would go to take
over, to make a republic, you know, because that was another form of
Batista, American-supported government, you know. And one of his main,
pet peeves was that he thought that Batista was being supported by the
United States, and that is why we were so against him in the beginning
of Castro.
Mr. LIEBELER - So against Castro?
Mr. DELGADO - Right, because of the fact that we had lost so much and
were about to lose so much money in Cuba, because now that our man was
out. And we would talk about how we would do away with Trujillo, and
things like that, but never got no farther than the speaking stage.
But then when he started, you know, going along with this, he started
actually making plans, he wanted to know, you know, how to get to Cuba
and things like that. I was shying away from him. He kept on asking me
questions like "how can a person in his category, an English person,
get with a Cuban, you know, people, be part of that revolution
movement?"
I told him, to begin with, you have got to be trusted--right--in any
country you go to you have got to be trusted, so the best way to be
trusted is to know their language, know their customs, you know; so he
started applying himself to Spanish, he started studying. He bought
himself a dictionary, a Spanish-American dictionary. He would come to
me and we would speak in Spanish. You know, not great sentences but
enough. After a while he got to talk to me, you know, in Spanish."
Oswald had fantasied about doing big things, he saw himself as man
of action who would shape events (which he was when he killed
Kennedy). Thats why Russia soured on him, he didn`t just want to be a
drone worker. He give lip service to the downtrodden working class,
but did he socialize with his fellow workers? No, they were drones,
and he saw himself as a different kind of man. Just like you prefer to
see yourself as some valid investigator rather than just a jerkoff
hobbyist, which would be the real truth.
> There is very little in the records that show that Lee
> Oswald was a "political fanatic"
There is plenty there, Walt. But like with all information, your
mind turns it into something else. The problem isn`t a lack of
information, the problem is your fucked up mind.
> On a few public occasions he
> pretended to be interested in Fidel Castro's political revolution but
> there is very little evidence that he discussed politics with any
> friends or acquaintances.
Name his friends and acquaintances. The only one I can think of is
De Mohrenschildt, and they did talk politics.
> And that's totally unlike a political
> fan ..... A political fan will often steer the subject toward politics
> just as a baseball fan likes to talk baseball....
A person acts according to his own personality.