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YoHarvey

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May 5, 2007, 11:09:13 AM5/5/07
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On May 5, 10:59 am, chuck schuyler <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote:
> Ricland...you are full of bulls---, you liar.
>
> Give us your unit and be specific about when and where you served.
>
> You didn't serve in 'Nam. You're a liar and a disgrace.
>
> You're one of those "wannabes" with no accomplishments in life and
> you've invented this strange anonymous internet persona that is able
> drift from discussion group-to-discussion group throwing B.S. around
> about wanting to train as a UFC athlete at age 49/50, JFK
> assassination "researcher" or Vietnam vet.
>
> You are a phony.
>
> It's much easier to cover for your failures in life by announcing that
> you are a disaffected 'Nam vet rather than face the fact that you are
> sort of a loser/dreamer that just can't quite get it together and go
> out and stand on your own two feet.
>
> You're not fooling anyone, Ricland. Shame on you for trying to steal
> the valor that so many shed their blood for. Shame on you for trying
> to blame your current 'ills' on a war you verifiably never served in.
>
> I'm not mad at you, but I pity you.
>
> Get your act together and stop pretending to be someone you're not.

Ricland attempts to hide his disgrace by asking
questions about USO's. Need I say more? U.S.
Naval Personnel attached to NavSupDaNang were
billeted at Camp Tien Sha at the foot of Monkey
Mountain, not to be confused with Marble
Mountain. DaNang was THE most secure
area of ICorps and arguablly the entire
country. As I was attached directly to
Naval HQ, I had a "skimmer" which I used
daily to cross the river into DaNang. As a
side note, for a brief period, my roommate
was an Ensign from the Naval Academy
named Roger Staubach. Staubach was
a supply officer also attached to Naval
HQ. Roger and I have remained friends
to this day. As for the USO activity
in DaNang, I have no clue how many
existed. I never frequented those
establishments. The "O" Club did
just fine. Now Ricland, tell us why
you have lied. I also note Ricland
gave me one star for my initial posting.
I respect that. I would expect no less
from the enemy when he has been exposed.


tomnln

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May 5, 2007, 11:27:16 AM5/5/07
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tomnln

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RICLAND

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May 5, 2007, 12:04:24 PM5/5/07
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Hey, YoHarvey, speaking of hiding my disgrace, here's something really
disgraceful you might want file a report on: As Ed Cage will tell you,
we used frag 90-day-wonders like you all time time. Roll a grenade in
your hooch while you were whacking off to the Playboy centerfold.

Nobody would say shit.

Only problem once we got rid of one, they'd send another one to take his
place, usually twice as stupid.

Ric "Sgt Fury" Ricland

"Yea, I've been to valley and I fear no evil ... cause I'm the baddest
mother fuker in the valley!"

--
Ricland:

http://www.riclanders.com/

Reclaiming History ...???
The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Book
http://jfkhit.com

YoHarvey

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May 5, 2007, 12:36:11 PM5/5/07
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> The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

It's damn obvious to anybody who served in
Vietnam everything Ricland has typed here
he learned from the movies. Ricland is a
cliche. He is also an insult, an embarrassment
and the lowest form of scum. Any human being
who would LIE to build up his own ego and self
esteem at the expense of actual war veterans
is dispicable. Whether pro or anti-conspiracy
in the JFK case is not the point here. We have
an individual who has insulted the veterans of
this country who gave their lives in defense
of that country. Ricland is EVERYTHING that
is wrong with America today. He's a phony....
he knows it...and now HE KNOWS WE KNOW
it.

YoHarvey

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May 5, 2007, 1:04:06 PM5/5/07
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> > The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It's damn obvious to anybody who served in
> Vietnam everything Ricland has typed here
> he learned from the movies. Ricland is a
> cliche. He is also an insult, an embarrassment
> and the lowest form of scum. Any human being
> who would LIE to build up his own ego and self
> esteem at the expense of actual war veterans
> is dispicable. Whether pro or anti-conspiracy
> in the JFK case is not the point here. We have
> an individual who has insulted the veterans of
> this country who gave their lives in defense
> of that country. Ricland is EVERYTHING that
> is wrong with America today. He's a phony....
> he knows it...and now HE KNOWS WE KNOW
> it.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

As a sidenote...Ricland AGAIN makes an
error AGAIN proving he was NOT in Nam.
He called me a "90 Day Wonder" even though
I've said I was regular Navy and NOT Naval
Reserve. Anybody in the military during
Nam would know there were NO 90 day
wonders. Nobody went from civilian life
to an officer in Vietnam in 90 days.
With each posting, Ricland only reinforces
his lying and his total and complete lack
of knowledge about Vietnam. Ricland?
You can only learn so much watching
movies. Fade away in shame.

RICLAND

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May 5, 2007, 1:17:48 PM5/5/07
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I was listening to G. Gordon Liddy the other day and he told a story
about being in jail I can relate to.

In his cell block there were two guards, a deputy and the officer he
reported to. The deputy was an ex-Nam vet with common sense. He'd come
on the floor talk to the men, answer their questions, tell them what was
expected of them. But the officer was a college boy fresh out of guard
school who when he came on the floor all hell would break lose, the riot
squad had to be called to get him out alive.

What YOHarvey is doing directly above is a good example why. In Nam,
practiced stupidity like YOHavey's got people killed. My first week in
the bush a new second lieutenant arrived with me. He was straight from
Officers Candidate School (OCS) and showed it. But no one faulted him on
this. In the main, the Army knows what it's doing; it knows what to
teach these guys and then it makes sure they all have it down cold.

So technically, he knew his shit. But then something happened they don't
teach at OCS. We were camping on the rooftop of an old French villa when
we began to take small arms fire. In a moment bullets were whizzing over
head everywhere; if you stood up you were going to catch one, no
question about it.

That's when it happened. The guy stands up, gives a scream like a little
girl, throws his rifle down, and runs off the roof. Miraculously, he
wasn't hit. We all looked at each other and tried not to laugh but it
was no use -- it was the funniest thing we had ever seen, something
straight out of a Road Runner cartoon -- "Beep! Beep!"

Anyway, the shooting stopped and we got the hell off that roof.

As to YoHarvey, or I suppose I should say the guy he reminds me off, he
was standing downstairs waiting for us his face as red as a beet. Some
of the short-timers tried to tell him it was no big deal but the pain
and humiliation in his face told us it was a very very big deal to him.

He was silent as a mouse until we got back to base camp then we never
saw him again.

tomnln

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May 5, 2007, 1:29:43 PM5/5/07
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Hey KOOK-SUCKER;

You're Really better off gettin your ass kicked with evidence/testimony.

If you insist on trading insults,
We'll be forced to talk about your Child molestations.
We'll be forced to talk about your decades of Incest.
We'll be forced to talk about you servicing Truckers on the I-80 be letting
them rest their
NUTSACKS on your chin.

NOW explain WHY the authorities Altered the Walker back yard photo THREE
Times?
http://whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm

ALSO, Why they Switched the bullet recovered from the Walker sdhooting?


WHO is Yo(Momma)Harvey?>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm

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YoHarvey

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May 5, 2007, 1:36:59 PM5/5/07
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> >> The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hide quoted text -

This guy can make up some great stories. He is
using every item his lying mind can come up with
to disassociate his earlier statements. He has not
yet responded to how a 50 year old could have
served in Vietnam in 1968. He has not responded
to any questions about his unit. As I've said,
NOBODY goes from OCS directly to Vietnam.
I served with ONI. Intelligence is NOT some-
thing Ricland is familiar with. At no time has
Richland exhibited any intelligence on this forum.
What Ricland continues to do is attempt to "con"
people on here with his limited knowledge of
Nam. No doubt the internet has provided him
with key "words" and locations. However,
questions that have been asked of him have
been ignored. My questiion is more blunt:
What kind of people could have raised this
kind of son?

eca...@tx.rr.com

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May 5, 2007, 2:11:45 PM5/5/07
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RIC ON:

"As Ed Cage will tell you,
we used frag 90-day-wonders like you all time time."

Sorry, not so Ric..

eca...@tx.rr.com

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May 5, 2007, 2:15:03 PM5/5/07
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I agree 100% Harvey..
This is PURE Movie stuff and I thought that
all the way through..

Ric there is NO WAY you were in Vietnam.

Ed

> > The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hide quoted text -


>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It's damn obvious to anybody who served in
> Vietnam everything Ricland has typed here
> he learned from the movies. Ricland is a
> cliche. He is also an insult, an embarrassment
> and the lowest form of scum. Any human being
> who would LIE to build up his own ego and self
> esteem at the expense of actual war veterans
> is dispicable. Whether pro or anti-conspiracy
> in the JFK case is not the point here. We have
> an individual who has insulted the veterans of
> this country who gave their lives in defense
> of that country. Ricland is EVERYTHING that
> is wrong with America today. He's a phony....
> he knows it...and now HE KNOWS WE KNOW

> it.- Hide quoted text -

YoHarvey

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May 5, 2007, 2:32:42 PM5/5/07
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> > > The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hidequoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > It's damn obvious to anybody who served in
> > Vietnam everything Ricland has typed here
> > he learned from the movies. Ricland is a
> > cliche. He is also an insult, an embarrassment
> > and the lowest form of scum. Any human being
> > who would LIE to build up his own ego and self
> > esteem at the expense of actual war veterans
> > is dispicable. Whether pro or anti-conspiracy
> > in the JFK case is not the point here. We have
> > an individual who has insulted the veterans of
> > this country who gave their lives in defense
> > of that country. Ricland is EVERYTHING that
> > is wrong with America today. He's a phony....
> > he knows it...and now HE KNOWS WE KNOW
> > it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

He's a disgrace Ed, an absolute disgrace.
We may disagree on this forum about JFK
and that's not a bad thing. However, what
Ricland has done is an insult to any
American...anywhere. For anybody on this
forum to continue to respond or associate
with this individual shows a complete and
total lack of respect for Amercia's
veterans.

eca...@tx.rr.com

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May 5, 2007, 3:05:24 PM5/5/07
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Amen Harvey and pass it on to Chuck.
Ricland can slug it out with Benny
the dwarf's water-boy as DVP calls
him: QUESTION MAN Healy?

::barf::
Ed

> > > > The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hidequotedtext -

> veterans.- Hide quoted text -

aeffects

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May 5, 2007, 4:48:42 PM5/5/07
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On May 5, 12:05 pm, ecag...@tx.rr.com wrote:
> Amen Harvey and pass it on to Chuck.
> Ricland can slug it out with Benny
> the dwarf's water-boy as DVP calls
> him: QUESTION MAN Healy?
>
> ::barf::

4 Bronze Star Medals and this post makes you ::barf:: ? Eddie, Eddie,
Eddie -- you generate way more bandwidth than you're worth, carry-on!
What were those medals for, again?

Watch the show, Beetle Bailey. Eddie daCage done got the floor!

RICLAND

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May 5, 2007, 5:16:24 PM5/5/07
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Say, Ed, isn't it just like a rear echelon mother fuker to tell somebody
the slang he's using is not factually correct?

Can you imagine sitting in your hooch after coming off ambush to have
some prissy little fop like YOHarvey stick his head in and tell everyone
to stop using the term 90 Day Wonder because it's not factually correct?

Wouldn't you bitch smack him and take your reduction in pay and 30 days
in the stockade with a smile on your face?

Wouldn't the satisfaction be worth it?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=90+day+wonder

RICLAND

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May 5, 2007, 5:36:56 PM5/5/07
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Tell us, YOHavey, what gave you the stupid idea 90-Day-Wonder meant
graduates of OCS went straight to Nam?

You see, YOHarvey that's your own stupidity at work. I can't be held
accountable for the dumb way you analyze things. I used a common slang
expression for Office Candidate School graduates used in NAM, and you
begin telling everyone it's proof I was never in Nam because officers
get more training than 90 days.

Dumb.

Is a "bird colonel" a fowl?

Is a "chopper" something used to chop with?

Is a "buck private" a a male deer's RSVP club?

But his stupidity doesn't stop there, folks. Next he accuses me of only
being 50 years old. Why? Because a spammer from another newsgroup told
him so.

In other words, he uses the same kind of retarded deduction he uses to
conclude Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin -- first make a dumb
conclusion; then create a bunch of stupid assumptions to support it.

Which is why we fragged so many of those 90 Day Wonders in Nam.

RICLAND

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May 5, 2007, 5:38:49 PM5/5/07
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eca...@tx.rr.com wrote:
> I agree 100% Harvey..
> This is PURE Movie stuff and I thought that
> all the way through..
>
> Ric there is NO WAY you were in Vietnam.
>
> Ed


And you were doing so good too, Ed.

Why'd you get stupid all over again?

RICLAND

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May 5, 2007, 5:49:16 PM5/5/07
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But this is so cool, it really is.

It mirrors how throughly wrong you are about the Kennedy assassination,
how worthless your opinion is, how you let emotion cloud your thinking.

I insulted you, you have nothing to hit back with, so you try and rally
the troops by appealing to their sense of patriotism:

"For anybody on this forum to continue to respond or associate
with this individual shows a complete and total lack of respect for
Amercia's veterans."

-- YOHavey

Dumb, flag-waving yahoo.

Thirty-seven years have past and you're still programmed to think stupid.

Shaun

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> But his stupidity doesn't stop there, folks. Next he accuses me of only
> being 50 years old. Why? Because a spammer from another newsgroup told
> him so.

This "spammer" merely pointed out that YOU said you'd be turning 50
next month in the other newsgroup. So, did you or didn't you? Are
you or aren't you?

Answer the question, Ricland. How old are you? And if you're not 49,
soon to turn 50, why did you say it in the other newsgroup?

Stop with the (pseudo) intellectual gymnastics and the evasiveness and
ANSWER THE QUESTION.


Shaun

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May 5, 2007, 6:34:30 PM5/5/07
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> "For anybody on this forum to continue to respond or associate
> with this individual shows a complete and total lack of respect for
> Amercia's veterans."
> -- YOHavey
>
> Dumb, flag-waving yahoo.
>
> Thirty-seven years have past and you're still programmed to think stupid.

He's just pointing out that you're a complete and utter joke, a liar,
and a coward.

And thirty-seven years have passed, Ricland, not past.

Shaun

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May 5, 2007, 6:34:50 PM5/5/07
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How old are you, Ricland?

Shaun

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How old are you, Ricland?

aeffects

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May 5, 2007, 6:42:48 PM5/5/07
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On May 5, 3:34 pm, Shaun <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How old are you, Ricland?

And who the fuck, are you???? Another troll? Plenty of 'em around here
lately...LOL

You have Vietnam issues with poster[s] here, whine at
alt.war.vietnam...

>From the looks of your posting history you'd last about three minutes
there...

tomnln

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May 12, 2007, 12:38:14 PM5/12/07
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RUN SPIFFY RUN
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EMzoBkaFxh4

RUN SPIFFY RUN

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Fat...@aol.com

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Well hotshot, just how many did you frag? There is no statue of
limitation on murder. Why don't you turn yourself in and be a man
about it? No, I didn't think so.

It was Army policy to allow a lieutenant to gain some experience by
keeping him stateside for his first year. This meant that many of us
made 1st LT on our way to Vietnam or just before. I never saw a 2nd
LT in the 196th LIB or the 1/1 Cav. We were all 1st LTs by the time
we received a combat assignment. I did see a few 2nd LTs down in
support at Americal Division HQs and a few assigned to Arty but I
could count them on one hand.

I'm not saying you didn't see a 2nd LT in command of your platoon, I'm
just saying I never saw it. But then I never fragged an American
either.

Bill Clarke

YoHarvey

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> > >>>> The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hidequotedtext -
> Bill Clarke- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I'll just grab his IP address and forward this
thread to the FBI. Let them do the leg work.

RICLAND

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Who the fuck are you?


>
> It was Army policy to allow a lieutenant to gain some experience by
> keeping him stateside for his first year. This meant that many of us
> made 1st LT on our way to Vietnam or just before. I never saw a 2nd
> LT in the 196th LIB or the 1/1 Cav. We were all 1st LTs by the time
> we received a combat assignment. I did see a few 2nd LTs down in
> support at Americal Division HQs and a few assigned to Arty but I
> could count them on one hand.
>
> I'm not saying you didn't see a 2nd LT in command of your platoon, I'm
> just saying I never saw it. But then I never fragged an American
> either.
>
> Bill Clarke
>

Better go back to AOL, Sgt Rock.

You're out of your depth here.

ricland


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Max Holland on Bugliosi:

"He is absolutely certain even when he is not necessarily right."
-- Max Holland
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Reclaiming History -- Bugliosi's Blunders
The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Book
http://jfkhit.com

justm...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2007, 6:39:05 PM6/16/07
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On Jun 16, 6:21 pm, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> The Rebuttal to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hidequotedtext -
> The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Fragging. When one American killed another American, usually a
superior officer or an NCO, the term "fragging" came into use.
Although the term simply meant that a fragmentation grenade was used
in the murder, it later became an all encompassing term for such an
action. It is known that "fraggings" did occur during Vietnam, but the
precise number is uncertain.

"During the years of 1969 down to 1973, we have the rise of fragging -
that is, shooting or hand-grenading your NCO or your officer who
orders you out into the field," says historian Terry Anderson of Texas
A & M University. "The US Army itself does not know exactly how
many...officers were murdered. But they know at least 600 were
murdered, and then they have another 1400 that died mysteriously.
Consequently by early 1970, the army [was] at war not with the enemy
but with itself." Rough figures for "fraggings" are indicated in
column a. below.

This sickness is something you brag about Ricland?? Did you actually
think your buddies were going to find you a "Cool Dude" for what
you've done?? I hope YoHarvey gets your ip to the proper authorities
and your ass is behind bars where it belongs. Your a sick man with the
mentality of a vegetable!
Justme

RICLAND

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Jun 16, 2007, 7:27:27 PM6/16/07
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Shit happens.

But I'll be honest -- I didn't cry when I heard about it.

Can't pin it on me, though; I've got an iron-clad alibi:

I was in the stockade when they got him.

Fat...@aol.com

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On Jun 16, 5:21 pm, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Fatm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Well hotshot, just how many did you frag? There is no statue of
> > limitation on murder. Why don't you turn yourself in and be a man
> > about it? No, I didn't think so.
>
> Who the fuck are you?

Bill Clarke, 1LT, F Troop/17th Cav, 196th Light Infantry Brigade
(196th LIB) and First of the First (1/1) Cav, Americal Division,
1970-1971.

I assume you have already posted your name, unit and date for us?
Probably not! Be advised, fragboy, today with FOI request and the net
it isn't as safe to tell a war story as it once was.

>
> Better go back to AOL, Sgt Rock.
>
> You're out of your depth here.
>
> ricland

I knew many good sergeants but I never was one. Was an E-2 until
commissioned. And yes, I'm out of depth here as far as JFK's
assassination goes. However, it is you that has exceeded his
capability on military matters of Vietnam. I spot you for a phony a
mile away.

Bill Clarke


Fat...@aol.com

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Jun 17, 2007, 1:18:37 PM6/17/07
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On Jun 16, 5:39 pm, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Don't know if I can find the old reference but the majority of these
fragging incidents occurred the last couple years of the war when
morale had gone out the window. Hard to keep up morale when Nixon is
withdrawing and you know all is lost.

Again, the majority of these incidents were in the rear area support
units. It seems they had more time on their hands (and less to bitch
about) than those in the field. Perhaps Mr. Ricland belonged to one
of these rear area units or more likely, has never seen Vietnam.

Bill Clarke

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