> One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
> .John
some things are intolerable, one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, the man is CIA. he is here with an agenda, he doesn't even bother to hide that fact.
QUOTE ON
> But you have Bill. You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my > scheme to make this group a shambles.
> And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have > publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed > you buffs' noses in it.
> It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
> .John
QUOTE OFF
-- Spam E-mail Will Be met with a gratefull reply of: 10,000 to 1 for first time offenders, 1,000,000 to one for second time offenders, and total shutdown for third time offenders. As I believe in the joy of giving, more than the joy of receiving, Spammers take notice. ;-)
>> But you have Bill. You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my >> scheme to make this group a shambles.
>> And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have >> publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed >> you buffs' noses in it.
>> It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
>> .John
>QUOTE OFF
Great, Kevin. Now you are cooperating with my nefarious plan to ruin the newsgroup! Let me tell you, pal, I appreciate it.
>>> But you have Bill. You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my >>> scheme to make this group a shambles.
>>> And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have >>> publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed >>> you buffs' noses in it.
>>> It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
>>> .John
>>QUOTE OFF
>Great, Kevin. Now you are cooperating with my nefarious plan to ruin the >newsgroup! Let me tell you, pal, I appreciate it. >.John
You must be a VERY,VERY lonely person. So much effort put in on drivel. All alone in your 3 room apt,with nothing more to do in life but read and post in this NG. Personally I couldn't care less if you're CIA or simply an unimportant malcontent with(unfortunately) Internet access. Mouthing the WC with absolutely no individual thought. Stupid attempts at degrading others with the foolish notion that anybody actually cares. Type away Johnny!.......sad ......so very very sad.................Must be lonely in that dark lit room
> In article <33015550.4...@accent.net>, > Keven S. Caddeo <it...@accent.net> wrote: > >John McAdams wrote:
> >> One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
> >> .John
> >some things are intolerable, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >the man is CIA. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >he is here with an agenda, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >he doesn't even bother to hide that fact. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >QUOTE ON
> >> But you have Bill. You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my > >> scheme to make this group a shambles.
> >> And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have > >> publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed > >> you buffs' noses in it.
> >> It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
> >> .John
> >QUOTE OFF
> Great, Kevin. Now you are cooperating with my nefarious plan to ruin the > newsgroup! Let me tell you, pal, I appreciate it.
> .John
From - Sun Feb 16 13:42:31 1997 From: pand...@enterprise.net (Bill MacDowall) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Subject: The John McAdams FAQ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:48:33 GMT Organization: Enterprise PLC - Internet Services Message-ID: <33071e32.10137494@news.enterprise.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: max08-224.enterprise.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Lines: 257 Path: news.total.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!nic.mtl.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!news .pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnpla net.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!netcom.net.uk!netcom-uk-feed0!news.en terprise.net!usenet
This FAQ exists to answer some of the most frequently asked questions about John McAdams. It may be copied by McAdams to counter the effect the truth will have on his already frazzled reputation but then imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
This FAQ will be posted regularly to forewarn new users of the dangers of becoming another McAdams victim.
1. Who is John McAdams?
John McAdams is a professor of political science employed
in the Jesuit Marquette University (hard to believe but true).
2. Is John McAdams hell-bent on destroying this group?
Sadly yes. His own words appended below summarise his intentions better than I could.
From jmcad...@primenet.com Sat Feb 15 05:17:02 1997 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Subject: Re: Blown back by shot From: jmcad...@primenet.com (John McAdams) Date: 14 Feb 1997 22:17:02 -0700
You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my scheme to make this group a shambles. And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed you buffs' noses in it. It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
.John
This recent post by McAdams should be viewed in terms of the Charter he submitted as part of the process of forming the moderated JFK group:
CHARTER AND MODERATION POLICY
This group will be for the purpose of providing an area for serious discussion and research of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The group will be moderated to prevent the noise and chronic personal attacks which have plagued alt.conspiracy.jfk and made it nearly useless as a vehicle for intelligent research. Questions surrounding JFK's death have made this one of the most talked about and controversial issues of our generation. This will be the one usenet group which deals seriously with this important topic.
One supposes that since the noise and chronic personal attacks which have plagued the alt.conspiracy.jfk group were and are part of McAdams freely admitted plans to turn the group into a shambles, the moderated group can only be seen as his personal vehicle for selective manipulation of content.
3. Is McAdams connected to the CIA?
Many people have suggested he is and it would not be difficult to imagine how useful a professor of political science at a respected university would be as a CIA asset. It is impossible to know if McAdams has "company" links but his background and behaviour may shed some light. The following is a quote from a letter written by McAdams to the Milwaukee Sentinel Newspaper:
(Dr) Gary Aguilar accused me on the politics forum of being A CIA sponsored disinformationist because I was once the Marquette Official representative of the I.C.P.S.R. an utterly unspooky social science data archive.
The article below throws some light on just how "un-spooky" the ICPSR actually is
Not being widely known outside its narrow area of research the ICPSR may not register with most people, but if you are familiar with intelligence and covert action, you will recognize that some of their "classes" deal in "nation building" concept, which is what the interventionists call it when they set up a puppet government through subversion of the existing institutions of said nation.
The ICPSR is housed in the Institute for Social Research, or ISR which itself has been documented has recipient of spook research grants.
This is a repost of something Lisa Pease posted a while back that elaborates on these spook research grants and also contains Mcadams' admission, if not boast, that he was at one time "official representative" to ICPSR.
They have a web page, so you can check it out for yourself. You may notice studies on assassinations and the courses on the "formation of elites" in Chile etc..
Of course, McAdams may or may not be connected with the CIA, you pay your money and take your chance in dealing with him.
4. Has McAdams any track record in covert-type activity?
It seems he has. McAdams attended the 1995 Copa Conference using the assumed name Paul Nolan. More than that, he also fabricated a background to go with the name in that he purported himself to be a jet-propulsion expert
and some-time computer store owner from Sherwood, Wisconsin. In that guise, he was quoted in an article in the Washington press by journalist Matt Labash. Mr Labash later confirmed that McAdams had duped him. Mr Labash had quoted Paul (McAdams) Nolan in good faith whilst in fact McAdams was lying through his teeth. McAdams later claimed he had used an assumed name to avoid contact with users of the alt.conspircay group who may have been attending the conference. With McAdams record of wilfully abusing users
of the group, this story might seem plausible but going to trouble of inventing a detailed cover story and lying to the
press have more sinister overtones.
5. Has McAdams accused other group users of pedophilia and drug abuse?
He most certainly has. In 1997 McAdams openly accused one Stuart Lyster of having served time in prison for child abuse and accused Dr Gary Aguilar of being a drug addict. In the light of McAdams behaviour in the group and his other activities such as at the Copa Conference, Stuart Lyster asked McAdams explain his motives in using this group and in return posted the following offensive reply:
From: 6489mcada...@vms.csd.mu.edu (John McAdams) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Subject: Re: A cornered rat turns vicious Date: 12 Sep 1995 13:04:53 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Stuart.Lys...@miratel.uniserve.com (Stuart Lyster) writes: >And .John refuses to discuss how he uses this newsgroup for profit. >So, .John, are you ready to discuss your *REAL* use of this >newsgroup and why you are here, and....
Stuart, you've first got to address charges that you are a pedophile who has served time in jail for molesting young children.
I'm going to keep after you on this until you respond.
.John
This reply earned McAdams coverage in the Milwaukee Sentinal newspaper:
By Tom Vanden Brook of the Journal Sentinel staff ___________________
A Marquette University professor who hurled profane insults across the Internet - including accusations of drug use and pedophilia - has been chastised by university officials, has annoyed people across the country, and has sparked a small, intense debate on etiquette in cyberspace.
John McAdams, a political science professor who teaches a course on the Kennedy assassination and has created a home page on the World Wide Web devoted to the topic, admitted to using blue prose in computer correspondence.
But he defended himself by saying he was responding in kind to people he says are viciously critical of his views on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. "The Internet used to be a reasonable place to discuss the Kennedy assassination," McAdams said. "Now, it's a complete 'flamefest'."
"Flaming," in Internet circles, refers to diabribes aimed at those with differing viewpoints. McAdams is a vocal opponent of academics and others who ascribe to various conspiracy theories concerning the assassination.
Last fall, participants in an assassination discussion group complained to the Roman Catholic university about McAdams' profane references to them on computer bulletin boards. Gary Aguilar, a San Francisco surgeon, said he contacted MU after McAdams asked him to respond to charges that he had used drugs. Aguilar vehemently denies using drugs.
> In article <33015550.4...@accent.net>, > Keven S. Caddeo <it...@accent.net> wrote: > >John McAdams wrote:
> >> One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
> >> .John
> >some things are intolerable, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >the man is CIA. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >he is here with an agenda, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >he doesn't even bother to hide that fact. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >QUOTE ON
> >> But you have Bill. You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my > >> scheme to make this group a shambles.
> >> And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have > >> publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed > >> you buffs' noses in it.
> >> It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
> >> .John
> >QUOTE OFF
> Great, Kevin. Now you are cooperating with my nefarious plan to ruin the > newsgroup! Let me tell you, pal, I appreciate it.
> .John
From - Sun Feb 16 13:42:31 1997 From: pand...@enterprise.net (Bill MacDowall) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Subject: The John McAdams FAQ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:48:33 GMT Organization: Enterprise PLC - Internet Services Message-ID: <33071e32.10137494@news.enterprise.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: max08-224.enterprise.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Lines: 257 Path: news.total.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!nic.mtl.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!news .pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnpla net.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!netcom.net.uk!netcom-uk-feed0!news.en terprise.net!usenet
This FAQ exists to answer some of the most frequently asked questions about John McAdams. It may be copied by McAdams to counter the effect the truth will have on his already frazzled reputation but then imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
This FAQ will be posted regularly to forewarn new users of the dangers of becoming another McAdams victim.
1. Who is John McAdams?
John McAdams is a professor of political science employed
in the Jesuit Marquette University (hard to believe but true).
2. Is John McAdams hell-bent on destroying this group?
Sadly yes. His own words appended below summarise his intentions better than I could.
From jmcad...@primenet.com Sat Feb 15 05:17:02 1997 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Subject: Re: Blown back by shot From: jmcad...@primenet.com (John McAdams) Date: 14 Feb 1997 22:17:02 -0700
You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my scheme to make this group a shambles. And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed you buffs' noses in it. It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
.John
This recent post by McAdams should be viewed in terms of the Charter he submitted as part of the process of forming the moderated JFK group:
CHARTER AND MODERATION POLICY
This group will be for the purpose of providing an area for serious discussion and research of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The group will be moderated to prevent the noise and chronic personal attacks which have plagued alt.conspiracy.jfk and made it nearly useless as a vehicle for intelligent research. Questions surrounding JFK's death have made this one of the most talked about and controversial issues of our generation. This will be the one usenet group which deals seriously with this important topic.
One supposes that since the noise and chronic personal attacks which have plagued the alt.conspiracy.jfk group were and are part of McAdams freely admitted plans to turn the group into a shambles, the moderated group can only be seen as his personal vehicle for selective manipulation of content.
3. Is McAdams connected to the CIA?
Many people have suggested he is and it would not be difficult to imagine how useful a professor of political science at a respected university would be as a CIA asset. It is impossible to know if McAdams has "company" links but his background and behaviour may shed some light. The following is a quote from a letter written by McAdams to the Milwaukee Sentinel Newspaper:
(Dr) Gary Aguilar accused me on the politics forum of being A CIA sponsored disinformationist because I was once the Marquette Official representative of the I.C.P.S.R. an utterly unspooky social science data archive.
The article below throws some light on just how "un-spooky" the ICPSR actually is
Not being widely known outside its narrow area of research the ICPSR may not register with most people, but if you are familiar with intelligence and covert action, you will recognize that some of their "classes" deal in "nation building" concept, which is what the interventionists call it when they set up a puppet government through subversion of the existing institutions of said nation.
The ICPSR is housed in the Institute for Social Research, or ISR which itself has been documented has recipient of spook research grants.
This is a repost of something Lisa Pease posted a while back that elaborates on these spook research grants and also contains Mcadams' admission, if not boast, that he was at one time "official representative" to ICPSR.
They have a web page, so you can check it out for yourself. You may notice studies on assassinations and the courses on the "formation of elites" in Chile etc..
Of course, McAdams may or may not be connected with the CIA, you pay your money and take your chance in dealing with him.
4. Has McAdams any track record in covert-type activity?
It seems he has. McAdams attended the 1995 Copa Conference using the assumed name Paul Nolan. More than that, he also fabricated a background to go with the name in that he purported himself to be a jet-propulsion expert
and some-time computer store owner from Sherwood, Wisconsin. In that guise, he was quoted in an article in the Washington press by journalist Matt Labash. Mr Labash later confirmed that McAdams had duped him. Mr Labash had quoted Paul (McAdams) Nolan in good faith whilst in fact McAdams was lying through his teeth. McAdams later claimed he had used an assumed name to avoid contact with users of the alt.conspircay group who may have been attending the conference. With McAdams record of wilfully abusing users
of the group, this story might seem plausible but going to trouble of inventing a detailed cover story and lying to the
press have more sinister overtones.
5. Has McAdams accused other group users of pedophilia and drug abuse?
He most certainly has. In 1997 McAdams openly accused one Stuart Lyster of having served time in prison for child abuse and accused Dr Gary Aguilar of being a drug addict. In the light of McAdams behaviour in the group and his other activities such as at the Copa Conference, Stuart Lyster asked McAdams explain his motives in using this group and in return posted the following offensive reply:
From: 6489mcada...@vms.csd.mu.edu (John McAdams) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Subject: Re: A cornered rat turns vicious Date: 12 Sep 1995 13:04:53 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Stuart.Lys...@miratel.uniserve.com (Stuart Lyster) writes: >And .John refuses to discuss how he uses this newsgroup for profit. >So, .John, are you ready to discuss your *REAL* use of this >newsgroup and why you are here, and....
Stuart, you've first got to address charges that you are a pedophile who has served time in jail for molesting young children.
I'm going to keep after you on this until you respond.
.John
This reply earned McAdams coverage in the Milwaukee Sentinal newspaper:
By Tom Vanden Brook of the Journal Sentinel staff ___________________
A Marquette University professor who hurled profane insults across the Internet - including accusations of drug use and pedophilia - has been chastised by university officials, has annoyed people across the country, and has sparked a small, intense debate on etiquette in cyberspace.
John McAdams, a political science professor who teaches a course on the Kennedy assassination and has created a home page on the World Wide Web devoted to the topic, admitted to using blue prose in computer correspondence.
But he defended himself by saying he was responding in kind to people he says are viciously critical of his views on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. "The Internet used to be a reasonable place to discuss the Kennedy assassination," McAdams said. "Now, it's a complete 'flamefest'."
"Flaming," in Internet circles, refers to diabribes aimed at those with differing viewpoints. McAdams is a vocal opponent of academics and others who ascribe to various conspiracy theories concerning the assassination.
Last fall, participants in an assassination discussion group complained to the Roman Catholic university about McAdams' profane references to them on computer bulletin boards. Gary Aguilar, a San Francisco surgeon, said he contacted MU after McAdams asked him to respond to charges that he had used drugs. Aguilar vehemently denies using drugs.
>>>> But you have Bill. You buffs have been cooperating marvelously with my >>>> scheme to make this group a shambles.
>>>> And you know the bizzare part? My scheme is not a secret. I have >>>> publicly announced it. I have made it perfectly obvious. I have rubbed >>>> you buffs' noses in it.
>>>> It's blatantly obviously to everybody.
>>>> .John
>>>QUOTE OFF
>>Great, Kevin. Now you are cooperating with my nefarious plan to ruin the >>newsgroup! Let me tell you, pal, I appreciate it.
>>.John
> You must be a VERY,VERY lonely person. So much effort put in on
> > One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
> > .John
> some things are intolerable, > one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, > the man is CIA. > he is here with an agenda, > he doesn't even bother to hide that fact.
Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers will be recalling him soon.
Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
Regards,
Michael Cortese
||<*>|--------------------------------|<*>|| Michael Gordon Cortese hypat...@hi-inc.com http://www.chewable.com/hypatian/ ||<*>|--------------------------------|<*>|| "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing" --Anatole France
MGC wrote: > Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > will be recalling him soon.
> Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> Regards,
> Michael Cortese
Mr.Cortese,I would have thought by now that by applying your version of so-called buff-logic,you would have figured out that Mr.Caddeo is not one of the Sisters,but comes from another La Familia altogether. I don't know about you but I for one,would be quite respectfull of the Goombas,as I have no wish to subscribe to the Jimmy Hoffa Retire- ment Plan:-0
Regards, John(Sorry Keven,sometimes I just can't help myself:-)Ritchson
>> > One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
>> > .John
>> some things are intolerable, >> one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, >> the man is CIA. >> he is here with an agenda, >> he doesn't even bother to hide that fact.
>Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own >standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt >to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers >will be recalling him soon.
>Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should >give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure >disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
If Keven sez John McAdams is CIA and you say Keven is CIA, then the only logical conclusion is that YOU are CIA. And I offer the following as proof: you use the handle "MGC" which is an obvious TLA for "Mighty Good Cover."
I will shortly be publishing a very short book titled: "A List of Everyone Who is NOT a spook."
>>>I will shortly be publishing a very short book titled: "A List of
Everyone Who is NOT a spook."
Joel Grant<<<
Let me guess:
1. OJ 2. Mother Theresa (Not sure about this one) 3. John-Paul II (Oops, forgot. Someone wrote a book about him and Reagan. Scratch this one) 4. Flipper 5. R2D2
> > Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > > standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > > to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > > will be recalling him soon.
> > Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > > give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > > disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> > Regards,
> > Michael Cortese
> Mr.Cortese,I would have thought by now that by applying your version > of so-called buff-logic,you would have figured out that Mr.Caddeo is > not one of the Sisters,but comes from another La Familia altogether. > I don't know about you but I for one,would be quite respectfull of > the Goombas,as I have no wish to subscribe to the Jimmy Hoffa Retire- > ment Plan:-0
> Regards, > John(Sorry Keven,sometimes I just can't help myself:-)Ritchson
John, Il mio piccolo porco, I just file anti-Italian slurs where they belong....and a happy va fa en culo to you. -- Regards,
Michael Cortese (After 2/28/97 please use the hi-inc.com e-mail address) ||<*>|--------------------------------|<*>|| Michael Gordon Cortese hypat...@hi-inc.com http://www.chewable.com/hypatian/ ||<*>|--------------------------------|<*>|| "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing" --Anatole France
> >>>>I will shortly be publishing a very short book titled: "A List of > >Everyone > >Who is NOT a spook."
> >Joel Grant<<<
> >Let me guess:
> >1. OJ
> If he was CIA he would have won the civil suit, too.
> >2. Mother Theresa (Not sure about this one)
> Member of the Bildenbergers.
> >3. John-Paul II (Oops, forgot. Someone wrote a book about him and Reagan. > >Scratch this one)
> Thank you.
> >4. Flipper
> Prototypes secret underwater spy technology.
> >5. R2D2
> The epitome of walking spy technology.
> >Did I miss anyone?
> Stephen A. Jones, age 12, resident, Camden, NJ. I don't know > how they missed him.
> Joel
Stephen is a spook, Joel, but he just has an excellent cover. Don't you remember him from the last spook annual convention? When he is not a 12 year-old boy he looks like a 250 lb guy who smokes Phillies cheroots. I can't believe you forgot about him after we "disappeared" some JFK assasination witnesses together. -- Regards,
Michael Cortese (After 2/28/97 please use the hi-inc.com e-mail address) ||<*>|--------------------------------|<*>|| Michael Gordon Cortese hypat...@hi-inc.com http://www.chewable.com/hypatian/ ||<*>|--------------------------------|<*>|| "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing" --Anatole France
Mr. Ritchson wrote: MGC wrote: > Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > will be recalling him soon.
> Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> Regards,
> Michael Cortese
Mr.Cortese,I would have thought by now that by applying your version of so-called buff-logic,you would have figured out that Mr.Caddeo is not one of the Sisters,but comes from another La Familia altogether. I don't know about you but I for one,would be quite respectfull of the Goombas,as I have no wish to subscribe to the Jimmy Hoffa Retire- ment Plan:-0
Regards, John(Sorry Keven,sometimes I just can't help myself:-)Ritchson
>> >>>>I will shortly be publishing a very short book titled: "A List of >> >Everyone >> >Who is NOT a spook."
>> >Joel Grant<<<
>> >Let me guess:
>> >1. OJ
>> If he was CIA he would have won the civil suit, too.
>> >2. Mother Theresa (Not sure about this one)
>> Member of the Bildenbergers.
>> >3. John-Paul II (Oops, forgot. Someone wrote a book about him and Reagan. >> >Scratch this one)
>> Thank you.
>> >4. Flipper
>> Prototypes secret underwater spy technology.
>> >5. R2D2
>> The epitome of walking spy technology.
>> >Did I miss anyone?
>> Stephen A. Jones, age 12, resident, Camden, NJ. I don't know >> how they missed him.
>> Joel
>Stephen is a spook, Joel, but he just has an excellent cover. Don't you >remember him from the last spook annual convention? When he is not a 12 >year-old boy he looks like a 250 lb guy who smokes Phillies cheroots. I >can't believe you forgot about him after we "disappeared" some JFK >assasination witnesses together.
Geez maleez! I didn't know. Now my short book is that much shorter.
I'll give the guy credit,though, his disguises rool!
> > > One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
> > > .John
> > some things are intolerable, > > one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, > > the man is CIA. > > he is here with an agenda, > > he doesn't even bother to hide that fact.
> Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > will be recalling him soon.
> Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> Regards,
> Michael Cortese
so this is the post everyone has been telling me about lately sorry for not replying sooner but my ISP is very slow ;-)
Mike, you've outdone yourself. ;-)
ok, some history,
we all know that John Mcadams is CIA, that's a fact, not an accusation, we've shown the evidence, this includes, his spying on researchers using aliases, and child molestation accusations against researchers, etc... it's been well documented by Bill Macdowall. and we all owe him a debt of thanks for that wonderfully concise FAQ.
Now what Mcadams does is send his cronies here to disrupt the group, they basically lie about the evidence, when they are confronted with the truth, they are subjected to abuse, should they continue to spout the awfull truth, Mcadams assigns someone to the researcher who is standing in the way.
if one does not work, others are tried, I've had paddon, first of all, then have had a string of others in an attempt to shut me up. this includes stager, hiatt, cortese (who wrote the post I am replying to) finally corbett, corbett did not do well at all ;-)
now if they process does not work, a new tact is tried, either John Locke, or Mcadams himself will accuse the researcher of child Molestation, this is a last ditch effort to shut the researcher up. Cortese himself tried this with me several times.
now all this invariably has the effect of making the researcher occaisionally lose his or her patience, a nasty reply is bound to occur on occaision, this is where Mcadams excells, he then Reposts the researcher reply, while completely ignoring the lone nut post that precipitated the researcher reply, it is usually followed by some crisp comment ala "aren't these buffs nice" kind of snippit,
This is where we are all pissed off at Mcadams, the reposts, they are lies by nature, because they are VERY one sided. not to mention provocative. it's the equivelant of seeing an old lady getting mugged, and then accusing her of being vicious because she kicked the mugger,
not to mention that we all find child molestation slurs repulsive. cortese has made such slurs often, refering to children, as well as animals.
now recently, Bill Macdowall posted his FAQ on John Mcadams, it details exactly who he is, evidence that he is CIA, etc... though it's only a sampler, a book could be written on the evidence, it is however, the most concise article written on the evidence that Mcadams is indeed CIA,
On my part, I decided that it was a usefull tool, when Mcadams reposts, researchers posts, he does so in an effort to destroy the News Group, he himself admitted doing this very recently and several times, he has made no secret of the fact that he wants this News Group destroy so that he can control the internet debate through his censored news Group.
as such, I thought it important to point out who Mcadams was, and decided to repost the FAQ to all his reposts, he is free to discuss the assassination, but if he chooses to attempt to destroy this News Group, people have a right to know why.
so guess what happens, Mike cortese comes on the News Group, just after my report campaign starts and accuses me of being CIA ;-)
let's see, Mcadams has been proven by evidence to be CIA Mike cortese is a friend of Mcadams, mike is a lone nutter who states unequivicoly that the warren report got it right and that Posner is a great author and researcher ;-)
now he accuses me of being CIA, How quaint ;-)
is there any doubt what these guys are doing? they are here to divide us and to supress debate, That is ultimatly why the case is so important,
the coup d'etat that occured in 1963 in dallas is not a historical footnote, it's here with us today, it shapes government policy now, it starts wars in the present. people are being silenced and yes even killed right now.
that is why we must never stop investigating this until the truth is known, we must NEVER let them succeed.
it's not for the memory of JFK, though that would certainly be reason enough, it's for ourselves, and it is for our children.
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> > Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > > standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > > to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > > will be recalling him soon.
> > Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > > give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > > disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> > Regards,
> > Michael Cortese
> Mr.Cortese,I would have thought by now that by applying your version > of so-called buff-logic,you would have figured out that Mr.Caddeo is > not one of the Sisters,but comes from another La Familia altogether. > I don't know about you but I for one,would be quite respectfull of > the Goombas,as I have no wish to subscribe to the Jimmy Hoffa Retire- > ment Plan:-0
> Regards, > John(Sorry Keven,sometimes I just can't help myself:-)Ritchson
that's okay john, you do realise though, that we will now have to kill ya? sorry but's it just part of the family traditions ;-)
p.s. do you like yankee stadium?
;-)
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> > Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > > standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > > to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > > will be recalling him soon.
> > Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > > give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > > disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> > Regards,
> > Michael Cortese
> Mr.Cortese,I would have thought by now that by applying your version > of so-called buff-logic,you would have figured out that Mr.Caddeo is > not one of the Sisters,but comes from another La Familia altogether. > I don't know about you but I for one,would be quite respectfull of > the Goombas,as I have no wish to subscribe to the Jimmy Hoffa Retire- > ment Plan:-0
> Regards, > John(Sorry Keven,sometimes I just can't help myself:-)Ritchson
> Yes, and it's mighty cold under that Meadowlands end zone.
now you're gettin' into the spirit of things,
mr. ritchson,
we're waiting for you HA HA HA, come alone.
:-)
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> >> > One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
> >> > .John
> >> some things are intolerable, > >> one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, > >> the man is CIA. > >> he is here with an agenda, > >> he doesn't even bother to hide that fact.
> >Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own > >standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt > >to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers > >will be recalling him soon.
> >Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should > >give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure > >disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
> If Keven sez John McAdams is CIA and you say Keven is CIA, then the > only logical conclusion is that YOU are CIA. And I offer the following > as proof: you use the handle "MGC" which is an obvious TLA > for "Mighty Good Cover."
> I will shortly be publishing a very short book titled: "A List of Everyone > Who is NOT a spook."
> Joel Grant
probably a pamphlet ;-)
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> >>>I will shortly be publishing a very short book titled: "A List of > Everyone > Who is NOT a spook."
> Joel Grant<<<
> Let me guess:
> 1. OJ > 2. Mother Theresa (Not sure about this one) > 3. John-Paul II (Oops, forgot. Someone wrote a book about him and Reagan. > Scratch this one) > 4. Flipper > 5. R2D2
> Did I miss anyone?
and I'm not all that sure about flipper ;-)
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>> > > One of the great joys of this newsgroup: the Ballistic Buff!
>> > > .John
>> > some things are intolerable, >> > one such intolerable thing is a mcadams post, >> > the man is CIA. >> > he is here with an agenda, >> > he doesn't even bother to hide that fact.
>> Keven Caddeo has already been demonstrated to be CIA (by the buff's own >> standards of proof). These latest attacks by Keven is simply an attempt >> to weasel out of the fact that his cover has been blown and his handlers >> will be recalling him soon.
>> Since it is well established that Keven is CIA, I don't think we should >> give much credence to his claims about others being CIA. Pure >> disinformation, that is what Keven is all about.
>> Regards,
>> Michael Cortese
>so this is the post everyone has been telling me about lately >sorry for not replying sooner but my ISP is very slow ;-)
>Mike, you've outdone yourself. ;-)
>ok, >some history,
>we all know that John Mcadams is CIA,
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>that's a fact, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >not an accusation, we've shown the evidence,
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>this includes, his spying on researchers using aliases,
>this includes stager, hiatt, cortese (who wrote the post I am replying >to) >finally corbett, >corbett did not do well at all ;-)
>now if they process does not work, >a new tact is tried, >either John Locke, or Mcadams himself will accuse the researcher of >child Molestation, >this is a last ditch effort to shut the researcher up. >Cortese himself tried this with me several times.
>now all this invariably has the effect of making the researcher >occaisionally >lose his or her patience, >a nasty reply is bound to occur on occaision, >this is where Mcadams excells, >he then Reposts the researcher reply, while completely ignoring >the lone nut post that precipitated the researcher reply, >it is usually followed by some crisp comment ala "aren't these buffs >nice" >kind of snippit,
>This is where we are all pissed off at Mcadams,
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>the reposts, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >they are lies by nature, because they are VERY one sided.
>it's the equivelant of seeing an old lady getting mugged, >and then accusing her of being vicious because she kicked the mugger,
>not to mention that we all find child molestation slurs repulsive. >cortese has made such slurs often, >refering to children, as well as animals.
>now recently, >Bill Macdowall posted his FAQ on John Mcadams, >it details exactly who he is, >evidence that he is CIA, etc...
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>though it's only a sampler, >a book could be written on the evidence, >it is however, the most concise article written on the evidence >that Mcadams is indeed CIA,
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>On my part, >I decided that it was a usefull tool, >when Mcadams reposts, researchers posts,
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>he does so in an effort to destroy the News Group,
Gosh, Kevin, if you know about my Evil Plan, why don't you act to frustrate it? You could do that merely by stopping posts like this one?
Why not?
>as such, >I thought it important to point out who Mcadams was, >and decided to repost the FAQ to all his reposts, >he is free to discuss the assassination, >but if he chooses to attempt to destroy this News Group, >people have a right to know why.
>so guess what happens, >Mike cortese comes on the News Group, just after my report campaign >starts >and accuses me of being CIA ;-)
Yep, it's a conspiracy, Kevin!
>let's see, >Mcadams has been proven by evidence to be CIA
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>Mike cortese is a friend of Mcadams,
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>mike is a lone nutter who states unequivicoly that the warren report >got it right >and that Posner is a great author and researcher ;-)
>now he accuses me of being CIA, >How quaint ;-)
>is there any doubt what these guys are doing?
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>they are here to divide us and to supress debate,
Debate? What debate? The debate is on the moderated group.
>That is ultimatly why the case is so important,
>the coup d'etat that occured in 1963 in dallas is not a historical >footnote, >it's here with us today, >it shapes government policy now, >it starts wars in the present. >people are being silenced and yes even killed right now.