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robcap...@netscape.com

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Dec 21, 2007, 3:26:26 PM12/21/07
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This is a story not discussed very much at all, at least that has bee
my experience, and it is vital in showing how the WC manipulated data
to match their pre-conceived conclusion.

On December 5, 1963, Dallas City surveyor Robert West and Charles
Breneman, another prominent surveyor, were commissioned by the FBI to
match elevations and distances in Dealey Plaza to the Zapruder film.
This involved large areas of Dealey Plaza that had to be covered.
Upon completion of this report it was turned into the FBI and became
WC Exhibit number #595. Commission Exhibits 882 and 883 also
represent a survey constructed by Robert West, on 24 May 1964. Do
these two surveys agree with each other?

Charles Breneman said no. He stated how amazed he and West were when
they noticed the changes that were made. Breneman charged, "These
figures were changed just enough that the Warren Commission could come
up with the idea that another shot came from the same direction as the
first." In Matthew Smith's, "Conspiracy - The Plot To Stop The
Kennedys", pp. 116 & 117, he confirms this data was changed beyond a
doubt. He did a joint study known as the Smith-Vidit study, and the
original survery (that was given to the FBI) photograph was analyized
for details. This is the one that is supposedly quoted in the WR, but
as they found out there were changes made to it before publication.
The photo was enlarged, and Smith was able to see the that frame 161
had been substituted for frame 168, and frame 166 had taken the place
of 171, and frame 210 was where they had placed frame 208. As Smith
pointed out, one slip could be considered an accident, but three was
suspicious. Both West and Breneman felt that the shots came from TWO
locations, not one.

Further comments come from John P. Costella, Ph.D. in his, "WHY
COMPUTER ANIMATIONS CANNOT "TRUMP" HARD EVIDENCE", state: "At first
sight they do -- but if they are carefully overlaid, it is found that
the lane markings on Elm Street -- the "road stripes" are different.
In the later survey, one set of stripes
has been deleted altogether, right where the shots occurred, and the
nearby sets of stripes have been stretched and moved to fill the
gap." Are road stripes important? According to Costella, they are,
"They are, because the only professional photograph of the
Presidential limousine taken while the shots were being fired shows
the front wheel of the limousine right next to one of these stripes.
The photo, taken by Associated Press photographer James
Altgens, is crystal clear, and taken with a telephoto lens on
professional equipment and film. There are numerous structures and
features of Dealey Plaza that are visible. Given the clarity of the
image, it should have been a straightforward task for the Warren
Commission to determine exactly where both Altgens and the limousine
were located at the instant the photo was taken. Indeed, Commission
Exhibit 900 seems to represent a successful reconstruction of the
layout (albeit with a vehicle that is not the Presidential limousine).
But, again, if one overlays the two images in CE-900, one finds that
the reconstruction is not perfect at all.
In fact, it is terrible!"

How important is this to the overall conclusion, again Costella says
it is not good, "How much of a difference does this make? If we were
only worrying about pasting in an image of Clint
Eastwood for the movie In The Line Of Fire, it would be good enough.
But as a scientific reconstruction, it is dismal. Calculations show
that Altgens' position would have to be incorrect
by as much as TWENTY FEET to cause such a massive
inaccuracy in the reconstruction."

Smith found something else odd as well. In his research of this he
found out that Robert West and Charles Breneman did work for LIFE
before they did the report for the FBI. This was also an
investigation to match the film frames of the Zapruder film. Smith
states, "That the Zapruder frames were available for matching so
quickly after the assassination was remarkable, for the findings of
the surveyors were published in the magazine on the MONDAY following
the assassination (which took place the Friday before). As a
consequence of their work, the LIFE investigator handling the story
was convinced the bullets fired could NOT come from the same
rifle." (Emphasis mine)

West and Breneman noted the identification of a mark on the Stemmons
Freeway sign, but the Commission, during their walk-thru of the Plaza
made not comment or mention that the sign, in so many of the films and
photos, was gone. Smith found through investigation that the sign
initially was moved to the basement of the TSBD, but after that is
anybody's guess.

So yet again, we have a case of the WC altering something that was
submitted that DID NOT match the criteria they set-up from the
beginning, i.e. LHO was the only guilty person. For the full article
by John P. Costella, Ph.D., please go here:

http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/abc.txt


cdddraftsman

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Dec 21, 2007, 4:39:17 PM12/21/07
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On Dec 21, 12:26 pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
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Dealey Plaza
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Dealey Plaza :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dealey.htm
The Lay of the Land :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/plazao.jpg
History and Dealey Plaza :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ5.htm
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Texas School Book Depository
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A History of the Texas School Book Depository :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ4.htm
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The Grassy Knoll
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Where Did the Term "Grassy Knoll" Come From?
I'll give you a hint : It wasn't Jean Hill :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm
http://www.jfk.org/
The Knoll at the Time of the Shooting
The "Black Dog Man"? "Badgeman"?
The "Rush to the Knoll" :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm
"But there were all those witnesses who heard
shots from the Grassy Knoll, weren't there?" :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/shots.htm
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The Umbrella Man (TUM)
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Louis Witt who was engaged in a somewhat obscure
form of political protest (HSCA) :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/umbrell1.jpg
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/umbrell2.jpg
This 1930's British Cartoon :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/umbrella.gif
A flechette (poisoned dart) that hit JFK in the throat? :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/piece1.gif
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The Three Tramps
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The Three Tramps :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/3tramps.jpg
The Reality (Reality Check) :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/3tramps.htm
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The Tague Wounding
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The Tague Wounding :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tague1.gif
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tague2.gif
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tague3.gif
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tague4.gif
Bill Goggins interviewed Tague in 1997
Discusses his Recent Testimony and
Warren Commission Statements :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tague.htm
A lead smear on the Main Street curb? :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/curb.jpg
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Oswald in the Doorway of the TSBD ?
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During the Shooting?
It's the Conspiracy Factoid that won't die :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/oswald_doorway.htm
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Back and to the Left. Back, and to the Left
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JFK Hit in the Head by a Shot from the Grassy Knoll?
Richard Trott Experiment :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/melon-sh.mpg
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/melon2.mpg
Dr. John K. Lattimer Experiment :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/skull.rm
A Compilation of Expert Testimony before
the Rockefeller Commission :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/headwnd.htm
Interview : Ballistics Expert Duncan MacPherson
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/macpher.htm
Pathologist Cyril Wecht : Shot from the Grassy Knoll?
Menendez Retrial : Full Speed Astern ! :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/wecht2.htm
Wecht Under Indictment :
http://www.post-gazette.com/downloads/20060120wechtindictment.pdf
HSCA : Neuromuscular Spasm :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/goat.rm
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A Wild and Wolly Scenario?
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Conspiracy Buffs Story's about Extra Shooters, Extra
Bullets or Extra Weapons around DP.Just how many
assassins were blasting away at JFK? :
http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id139.htm
Could Oswald Have Gotten the Shots Off? :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/zirbel.txt
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A Revolver in "The Immediate Vicinity" of the TSBD?
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Researcher Bill Adams got to the bottom of this story :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/tfdrev.htm
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A Slug Discovered on the Dealey Plaza Infield?
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The story of a .45 caliber slug that was supposedly
Recovered by a Mysterious Government Agent? :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/slug.htm
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Dealey Plaza Witnesses
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Zapruder Indicating Location of JFK's Head Wound :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=81z62l3&s=1
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bigdog

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Dec 21, 2007, 9:46:43 PM12/21/07
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On Dec 21, 3:26 pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
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You can tell that Chico and robocrap are one and the same because
their bullshit smells exactly alike, and you don't need neutron
activation analysis to determine that.

Walt

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Dec 22, 2007, 11:56:57 AM12/22/07
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So you've got a "nose" for B.S. ........ I'm compelled to ask how you
aquired a "nose" for B.S.
Did you have to follow many bulls around to aquire that "nose"?

Walt


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robcap...@netscape.com

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Dec 22, 2007, 5:04:13 PM12/22/07
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I hope John doesn't pay you guys much, because he doesn't get a lot
for his money does he? This is the best you can come up with? You
can't even refute what is said can you? You don't even know the WC
report and its volumes do you?

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