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Sam McClung
Dec 26, 2011, 9:57:33 AM12/26/11
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<begin quote>
The timeline of Bush’s movements are almost impossible to read without
raising suspicions:
1. George Bush Sr. spent the night of November 21—and early the next
day morning—in Dallas at the Sheraton Hotel. The next day, November
22, Bush flew out of Dallas on a friend’s private plane to nearby
Tyler, Texas, AROUND 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting.
2. Surfacing in Tyler AROUND 1 PM, he begins a scheduled talk to a
local KIWANIS CLUB. After being interrupted with the tragic news, he
stoically halts the speech. At 1:45 he calls the FBI in Houston to
claim that a local [Dallas] GOP employee, James Parrott, was acting
suspiciously and might be JFK’s shooter. Parrott turns out to be
harmless and childlike.
3. Later that same day he flies BACK to Dallas again, but leaves
immediately—on a civilian flight—to return to Houston, where he lives.
<end quote>
<begin quote>
The timeline of Bush’s movements are almost impossible to read without
raising suspicions:
1. George Bush Sr. spent the night of November 21—and early the next
day morning—in Dallas at the Sheraton Hotel. The next day, November
22, Bush flew out of Dallas on a friend’s private plane to nearby
Tyler, Texas, AROUND 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting.
2. Surfacing in Tyler AROUND 1 PM, he begins a scheduled talk to a
local KIWANIS CLUB. After being interrupted with the tragic news, he
stoically halts the speech. At 1:45 he calls the FBI in Houston to
claim that a local [Dallas] GOP employee, James Parrott, was acting
suspiciously and might be JFK’s shooter. Parrott turns out to be
harmless and childlike.
3. Later that same day he flies BACK to Dallas again, but leaves
immediately—on a civilian flight—to return to Houston, where he lives.
<end quote>
Raymond
Dec 26, 2011, 11:19:13 AM12/26/11
to
On Dec 26, 9:57 am, "Sam McClung" <mccl...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.crime/browse_thread/thread/d1d146f...
During the Second World War he served with the Office of Strategic
Services (OSS) in Europe. In 1946 Everette DeGolyer recruited
Crichton. According to Russ Baker: "He started and ran a baffling
array of companies, which tended to change names frequently. These
operated largely below the radar, and fronted for some of North
America's biggest names, including the Bronfmans (Seagram's liquor),
the Du Ponts, and the Kuhn-Loeb family of financiers
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/MDcrichton.htm
Jack Crichton also had a close association with George H. W. Bush.
According to Fabian Escalante (The Secret War: CIA Covert Operations
Against Cuba, 1959-62), in 1959, Crichton and Bush raised funds for
the CIA's Operation 40.
Excerpt
In 1963 Crichton was nominated by the Republican Party for the post of
Governor of Texas. He joined forces with George H. W. Bush, who was
the nominee for the U.S. Senate. As Crichton later recalled, he and
Bush "spoke from the same podiums" that year. However, Crichton was
defeated by John Connally and he later wrote a book about his failed
attempt to become governor, The Republican-Democrat Political
Campaigns: In Texas in 1964.
In November 1963 Crichton was involved in the arrangements of the
visit that President John F. Kennedy made to Dallas. His close friend,
Deputy Police Chief George L. Lumpkin, and a fellow member of the the
488th Military Intelligence Detachment, drove the pilot car of
Kennedy's motorcade. Also in the car was Lieutenant Colonel George
Whitmeyer, commander of all Army Reserve units in East Texas. The
pilot car stopped briefly in front of the Texas School Book
Depository, where Lumpkin spoke to a policeman controlling traffic at
the corner of Houston and Elm.
-------------------------------------
Jack Alston Crichton was born on a cotton plantation in Crichton,
Louisiana, on 16th October, 1916. After leaving Byrd High School in
Shreveport in 1933 he attended the Texas A&M University. Fellow
students included Harvey Bright and Earle Cabell. He graduated with a
degree in Petroleum Engineering in 1937.
During the Second World War he served with the Office of Strategic
Services (OSS) in Europe. In 1946 Everette DeGolyer recruited
Crichton. According to Russ Baker: "He started and ran a baffling
array of companies, which tended to change names frequently. These
operated largely below the radar, and fronted for some of North
America's biggest names, including the Bronfmans (Seagram's liquor),
the Du Ponts, and the Kuhn-Loeb family of financiers."
In 1952 Jack Crichton joined a syndicate that included Everette
DeGolyer and Clint Murchison to use connections in the government of
General Francisco Franco to acquire rare drilling rights in Spain. The
operation was handled by Delta Drilling, which was owned by Joe Zeppa.
In August 1953 Crichton joined the Empire Trust Company. He eventually
became a vice-president of the organization. According to Stephen
Birmingham, the author of Our Crowd: The Great Jewish Families of New
York (1962) the company had a network of associates that amounted to
"something very like a private CIA". The Empire Trust was also a major
investor in the defence contractor General Dynamics.
In 1956 Crichton started up his own spy unit, the 488th Military
Intelligence Detachment. Crichton served as the unit's commander under
Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer, who was in overall command of all
Army Reserve units in East Texas. In an interview Crichton claimed
that there were "about a hundred men in that unit and about forty or
fifty of them were from the Dallas Police Department."
In the 1950s Jack Crichton became involved with several oil men who
began negotiating with Fulgencio Batista, the military dictator of
Cuba. A key figure in this was George de Mohrenschildt, who at that
time worked for a company called Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust
Company (CVOVT) that had been established by William Buckley Sr.
Crichton later remarked that "I liked George. He was a nice guy." It
is argued by Russ Baker that Crichton's Empire Trust Company played a
major role in the financing of the Cuban venture.
On 30th November, 1956, The New York Times reported that: "The Cuban
Stanolind Oil Company, an affiliate of the Standard Oil Company
(Indiana), has signed an agreement with the Cuban-Venezuelan Oil
Voting Trust and Trans-Cuba Oil Company for the development of an an
additional 3,000,000 acres in Cuba. This is in addition to the
original agreement covering 12,000,000 acres." George de Mohrenschildt
later told Albert E. Jenner that CVOVT had managed to obtain leases
covering nearly half of Cuba in the 1950s. As Russ Baker pointed out
in Family of Secrets (2008): "Though now almost completely forgotten,
on many days in the mid-1950s, it was one of the four or five most
actively traded issues on the American Stock Exchange."
On 1st January, 1959, Fulgencio Batista fled Cuba. The following day
Fidel Castro and his revolutionary army marched into Havana. The New
York Times reported on 22nd November 1959, that Castro's government
had approved a law that would reduce the size of claims for oil
exploration and halt large-scale explorations by private companies.
These claims were now limited to 20,000 acres. This was a major
problem for the Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust Company that had
signed an agreement with Fulgencio Batista for 15,000,000 acres.
Jack Crichton also had a close association with George H. W. Bush.
According to Fabian Escalante (The Secret War: CIA Covert Operations
Against Cuba, 1959-62), in 1959, Crichton and Bush raised funds for
the CIA's Operation 40. Originally it was set up to organize sabotage
operations against Fidel Castro and his Cuban government. However, it
evolved into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed:
"this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally,
assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of
the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if
necessary some of your own members who were suspected of being foreign
agents... We were concentrating strictly in Cuba at that particular
time."
The failure to assassinate or overthrow Fidel Castro caused tremendous
problems for the Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust Company and other
foreign oil companies that had already invested more than $30 million
looking for oil in Cuba. In December 1960, CVOVT was de-listed from
the American Stock Exchange.
Critchton was appointed head of the intelligence component of the
Dallas Civil Defence. The conservative radio commentator Paul Harvey
wrote in his syndicated column in September 1960: "The Communists,
since 1917, have sold Communism to more people than have been told
about Christ after 2,000 years." He urged his readers to support the
"counter-attack that had been mounted in Dallas."
In 1961 Crichton joined forces with other right-wing figures in Dallas
to establish a program called "Know Your Enemy". This was to combat
communist influence that "was undermining the American way of life".
The following year Crichton opened an underground command post under
the patio of the Dallas Health and Science Museum that was intended
for "continuity-of-government" operations during a communist attack.
In 1963 Crichton was nominated by the Republican Party for the post of
Governor of Texas. He joined forces with George H. W. Bush, who was
the nominee for the U.S. Senate. As Crichton later recalled, he and
Bush "spoke from the same podiums" that year. However, Crichton was
defeated by John Connally and he later wrote a book about his failed
attempt to become governor, The Republican-Democrat Political
Campaigns: In Texas in 1964.
In November 1963 Crichton was involved in the arrangements of the
visit that President John F. Kennedy made to Dallas. His close friend,
Deputy Police Chief George L. Lumpkin, and a fellow member of the the
488th Military Intelligence Detachment, drove the pilot car of
Kennedy's motorcade. Also in the car was Lieutenant Colonel George
Whitmeyer, commander of all Army Reserve units in East Texas. The
pilot car stopped briefly in front of the Texas School Book
Depository, where Lumpkin spoke to a policeman controlling traffic at
the corner of Houston and Elm.
In the Warren Commission Report it stated that Crichton arranged for a
member of the local Russian community, Ilya Mamantov, to work for the
Dallas Police Department as a translator for Russian-born Marina
Oswald shortly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Crichton's
volunteer translated for Oswald during her initial questioning by the
Dallas authorities in the hours immediately after her husband Lee
Harvey Oswald had been arrested. According to Russ Baker, the author
of Family of Secrets (2009), there "were far from literal translations
of her Russian words and had the effect of implicating her husband in
Kennedy's death."
Crichton was president of Nafco Oil and Gas. He also owned a company
called Dorchester Gas Producing. A fellow director was David Harold
Byrd who along with Clint Murchison, Haroldson L. Hunt and Sid
Richardson, was part of the Big Oil group in Dallas. Barr McClellan
(Blood, Money & Power) argues that "Big Oil would be during the
fifties and into the sixties what the OPEC oil cartel was to the
United States in the seventies and beyond". One of the main concerns
of this group was the preservation of the oil depletion allowance.
Jack Crichton who was President of the Dallas Petroleum Engineers
Club, also served as a Director to Florida Gas Company, Clark Oil and
Refining, Whitehall Corporation, Transco Energy and the Consolidated
Development Corporation.
Jack Alston Crichton died in Dallas on 10th December, 2007.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.crime/browse_thread/thread/d1d146f...
> <begin quote>
> The timeline of Bush’s movements are almost impossible to read without
> raising suspicions:
>
> 1. George Bush Sr. spent the night of November 21—and early the next
> day morning—in Dallas at the Sheraton Hotel. The next day, November
> 22, Bush flew out of Dallas on a friend’s private plane to nearby
> Tyler, Texas, AROUND 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting.
>
> 2. Surfacing in Tyler AROUND 1 PM, he begins a scheduled talk to a
> local KIWANIS CLUB. After being interrupted with the tragic news, he
> stoically halts the speech. At 1:45 he calls the FBI in Houston to
> claim that a local [Dallas] GOP employee, James Parrott, was acting
> suspiciously and might be JFK’s shooter. Parrott turns out to be
> harmless and childlike.
>
> 3. Later that same day he flies BACK to Dallas again, but leaves
> immediately—on a civilian flight—to return to Houston, where he lives.
> <end quote>
Jack Crichton
> The timeline of Bush’s movements are almost impossible to read without
> raising suspicions:
>
> 1. George Bush Sr. spent the night of November 21—and early the next
> day morning—in Dallas at the Sheraton Hotel. The next day, November
> 22, Bush flew out of Dallas on a friend’s private plane to nearby
> Tyler, Texas, AROUND 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting.
>
> 2. Surfacing in Tyler AROUND 1 PM, he begins a scheduled talk to a
> local KIWANIS CLUB. After being interrupted with the tragic news, he
> stoically halts the speech. At 1:45 he calls the FBI in Houston to
> claim that a local [Dallas] GOP employee, James Parrott, was acting
> suspiciously and might be JFK’s shooter. Parrott turns out to be
> harmless and childlike.
>
> 3. Later that same day he flies BACK to Dallas again, but leaves
> immediately—on a civilian flight—to return to Houston, where he lives.
> <end quote>
During the Second World War he served with the Office of Strategic
Services (OSS) in Europe. In 1946 Everette DeGolyer recruited
Crichton. According to Russ Baker: "He started and ran a baffling
array of companies, which tended to change names frequently. These
operated largely below the radar, and fronted for some of North
America's biggest names, including the Bronfmans (Seagram's liquor),
the Du Ponts, and the Kuhn-Loeb family of financiers
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/MDcrichton.htm
Jack Crichton also had a close association with George H. W. Bush.
According to Fabian Escalante (The Secret War: CIA Covert Operations
Against Cuba, 1959-62), in 1959, Crichton and Bush raised funds for
the CIA's Operation 40.
Excerpt
In 1963 Crichton was nominated by the Republican Party for the post of
Governor of Texas. He joined forces with George H. W. Bush, who was
the nominee for the U.S. Senate. As Crichton later recalled, he and
Bush "spoke from the same podiums" that year. However, Crichton was
defeated by John Connally and he later wrote a book about his failed
attempt to become governor, The Republican-Democrat Political
Campaigns: In Texas in 1964.
In November 1963 Crichton was involved in the arrangements of the
visit that President John F. Kennedy made to Dallas. His close friend,
Deputy Police Chief George L. Lumpkin, and a fellow member of the the
488th Military Intelligence Detachment, drove the pilot car of
Kennedy's motorcade. Also in the car was Lieutenant Colonel George
Whitmeyer, commander of all Army Reserve units in East Texas. The
pilot car stopped briefly in front of the Texas School Book
Depository, where Lumpkin spoke to a policeman controlling traffic at
the corner of Houston and Elm.
-------------------------------------
Jack Alston Crichton was born on a cotton plantation in Crichton,
Louisiana, on 16th October, 1916. After leaving Byrd High School in
Shreveport in 1933 he attended the Texas A&M University. Fellow
students included Harvey Bright and Earle Cabell. He graduated with a
degree in Petroleum Engineering in 1937.
During the Second World War he served with the Office of Strategic
Services (OSS) in Europe. In 1946 Everette DeGolyer recruited
Crichton. According to Russ Baker: "He started and ran a baffling
array of companies, which tended to change names frequently. These
operated largely below the radar, and fronted for some of North
America's biggest names, including the Bronfmans (Seagram's liquor),
the Du Ponts, and the Kuhn-Loeb family of financiers."
In 1952 Jack Crichton joined a syndicate that included Everette
DeGolyer and Clint Murchison to use connections in the government of
General Francisco Franco to acquire rare drilling rights in Spain. The
operation was handled by Delta Drilling, which was owned by Joe Zeppa.
In August 1953 Crichton joined the Empire Trust Company. He eventually
became a vice-president of the organization. According to Stephen
Birmingham, the author of Our Crowd: The Great Jewish Families of New
York (1962) the company had a network of associates that amounted to
"something very like a private CIA". The Empire Trust was also a major
investor in the defence contractor General Dynamics.
In 1956 Crichton started up his own spy unit, the 488th Military
Intelligence Detachment. Crichton served as the unit's commander under
Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer, who was in overall command of all
Army Reserve units in East Texas. In an interview Crichton claimed
that there were "about a hundred men in that unit and about forty or
fifty of them were from the Dallas Police Department."
In the 1950s Jack Crichton became involved with several oil men who
began negotiating with Fulgencio Batista, the military dictator of
Cuba. A key figure in this was George de Mohrenschildt, who at that
time worked for a company called Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust
Company (CVOVT) that had been established by William Buckley Sr.
Crichton later remarked that "I liked George. He was a nice guy." It
is argued by Russ Baker that Crichton's Empire Trust Company played a
major role in the financing of the Cuban venture.
On 30th November, 1956, The New York Times reported that: "The Cuban
Stanolind Oil Company, an affiliate of the Standard Oil Company
(Indiana), has signed an agreement with the Cuban-Venezuelan Oil
Voting Trust and Trans-Cuba Oil Company for the development of an an
additional 3,000,000 acres in Cuba. This is in addition to the
original agreement covering 12,000,000 acres." George de Mohrenschildt
later told Albert E. Jenner that CVOVT had managed to obtain leases
covering nearly half of Cuba in the 1950s. As Russ Baker pointed out
in Family of Secrets (2008): "Though now almost completely forgotten,
on many days in the mid-1950s, it was one of the four or five most
actively traded issues on the American Stock Exchange."
On 1st January, 1959, Fulgencio Batista fled Cuba. The following day
Fidel Castro and his revolutionary army marched into Havana. The New
York Times reported on 22nd November 1959, that Castro's government
had approved a law that would reduce the size of claims for oil
exploration and halt large-scale explorations by private companies.
These claims were now limited to 20,000 acres. This was a major
problem for the Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust Company that had
signed an agreement with Fulgencio Batista for 15,000,000 acres.
Jack Crichton also had a close association with George H. W. Bush.
According to Fabian Escalante (The Secret War: CIA Covert Operations
Against Cuba, 1959-62), in 1959, Crichton and Bush raised funds for
the CIA's Operation 40. Originally it was set up to organize sabotage
operations against Fidel Castro and his Cuban government. However, it
evolved into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed:
"this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally,
assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of
the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if
necessary some of your own members who were suspected of being foreign
agents... We were concentrating strictly in Cuba at that particular
time."
The failure to assassinate or overthrow Fidel Castro caused tremendous
problems for the Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust Company and other
foreign oil companies that had already invested more than $30 million
looking for oil in Cuba. In December 1960, CVOVT was de-listed from
the American Stock Exchange.
Critchton was appointed head of the intelligence component of the
Dallas Civil Defence. The conservative radio commentator Paul Harvey
wrote in his syndicated column in September 1960: "The Communists,
since 1917, have sold Communism to more people than have been told
about Christ after 2,000 years." He urged his readers to support the
"counter-attack that had been mounted in Dallas."
In 1961 Crichton joined forces with other right-wing figures in Dallas
to establish a program called "Know Your Enemy". This was to combat
communist influence that "was undermining the American way of life".
The following year Crichton opened an underground command post under
the patio of the Dallas Health and Science Museum that was intended
for "continuity-of-government" operations during a communist attack.
In 1963 Crichton was nominated by the Republican Party for the post of
Governor of Texas. He joined forces with George H. W. Bush, who was
the nominee for the U.S. Senate. As Crichton later recalled, he and
Bush "spoke from the same podiums" that year. However, Crichton was
defeated by John Connally and he later wrote a book about his failed
attempt to become governor, The Republican-Democrat Political
Campaigns: In Texas in 1964.
In November 1963 Crichton was involved in the arrangements of the
visit that President John F. Kennedy made to Dallas. His close friend,
Deputy Police Chief George L. Lumpkin, and a fellow member of the the
488th Military Intelligence Detachment, drove the pilot car of
Kennedy's motorcade. Also in the car was Lieutenant Colonel George
Whitmeyer, commander of all Army Reserve units in East Texas. The
pilot car stopped briefly in front of the Texas School Book
Depository, where Lumpkin spoke to a policeman controlling traffic at
the corner of Houston and Elm.
In the Warren Commission Report it stated that Crichton arranged for a
member of the local Russian community, Ilya Mamantov, to work for the
Dallas Police Department as a translator for Russian-born Marina
Oswald shortly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Crichton's
volunteer translated for Oswald during her initial questioning by the
Dallas authorities in the hours immediately after her husband Lee
Harvey Oswald had been arrested. According to Russ Baker, the author
of Family of Secrets (2009), there "were far from literal translations
of her Russian words and had the effect of implicating her husband in
Kennedy's death."
Crichton was president of Nafco Oil and Gas. He also owned a company
called Dorchester Gas Producing. A fellow director was David Harold
Byrd who along with Clint Murchison, Haroldson L. Hunt and Sid
Richardson, was part of the Big Oil group in Dallas. Barr McClellan
(Blood, Money & Power) argues that "Big Oil would be during the
fifties and into the sixties what the OPEC oil cartel was to the
United States in the seventies and beyond". One of the main concerns
of this group was the preservation of the oil depletion allowance.
Jack Crichton who was President of the Dallas Petroleum Engineers
Club, also served as a Director to Florida Gas Company, Clark Oil and
Refining, Whitehall Corporation, Transco Energy and the Consolidated
Development Corporation.
Jack Alston Crichton died in Dallas on 10th December, 2007.
Raymond
Dec 26, 2011, 12:29:41 PM12/26/11
to
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dod02
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFK488mid.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKoperation40.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbissell.htm
In 1962 Barnes was placed in charge of Domestic Operations Division.
Robert Morrow later claimed that Barnes recruited Richard Case Nagell
and sent him to New Orleans in the summer of 1963. Barnes also asked
Morrow to purchase several weapons: "I was told specially to get good
ones, 7.35mm Mannlicher-Carcanos. A 6.5mm was not an accurate rifle at
all, and not to be considered. I remember going to Sunny's Surplus up
in Towson, Maryland. They had a whole wall of Mannlichers, Mausers,
and other rifles. I picked out four, which I felt were pretty good."
Morrow claimed that the rifles were picked up by David Ferrie in a
private plane and taken to New Orleans.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbarnesT.htm
Bankruptcy forces Sunny’s Surplus stores to close, again
Outdoor goods chain donates inventory to Goodwill
At its peak, Sunny’s Great Outdoors Inc. had 15 locations in Maryland,
Delaware and Virginia, including branches named Sunny’s Surplus,
Sunny’s: The Affordable Outdoor Store and Sunny’s Great Outdoors,
before it hit financial trouble again in 2006.
http://ww2.gazette.net/stories/040408/businew201447_32363.shtml
Sam McClung
Dec 26, 2011, 12:33:26 PM12/26/11
to
"Raymond" quoted in part:
"The New York Times reported on
22nd November 1959,
that Castro's government had approved a law that would reduce the size of
claims for oil exploration and halt large-scale explorations by private
companies."
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
then on
22nd November 1963...
then "the next thing you know old jed's a millionaire!"
<begin quote>
When Kennedy entered the White House, the American fiscal system, and in
particular the system of the depletion allowance, had enabled a few
operators in the oil industry like H. L. Hunt to amass in only a few years
the kind of fortune it had taken Rockefeller a half-century and a great deal
of patience to accumulate....
<end quote>
from http://www.jfk-online.com/farewell10.html
sam
"The New York Times reported on
22nd November 1959,
that Castro's government had approved a law that would reduce the size of
claims for oil exploration and halt large-scale explorations by private
companies."
then on
22nd November 1963...
then "the next thing you know old jed's a millionaire!"
<begin quote>
When Kennedy entered the White House, the American fiscal system, and in
particular the system of the depletion allowance, had enabled a few
operators in the oil industry like H. L. Hunt to amass in only a few years
the kind of fortune it had taken Rockefeller a half-century and a great deal
of patience to accumulate....
<end quote>
from http://www.jfk-online.com/farewell10.html
sam
Sam McClung
Dec 26, 2011, 1:08:31 PM12/26/11
to
<begin quote>
In July, 1963, Morrow claims that Tracy Barnes "requested that I purchase
four Mannlicher 7.35 mm surplus rifles. According to Barnes, the rifles were
available in the Baltimore area from Sunny's Supply Stores. Upon my
agreement to make the purchase, Barnes requested that I alter the forepiece
of each rifle so that the rifles could be dismantled, hidden and reassembled
quickly. I thought this last request odd until I was informed that the
rifles were to be used for a clandestine operation."
<end quote>
from http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4403
Also "in the summer of 1963" Chauncey Holt indicated while working as a CIA
spook in the CIA shop in California they received an order for one of each
model of Manlicher-Carcano from Masen's Gun Shop in the Dallas area
(which Charles Harrelson was a part owner of), at a cost of $3 each.
was the "one of each model" to ensure when they got fake paperwork from
pepsi klein's used assassination weapons they would have a rifle to end up
in evidence? which happened to be a 6.5 carcano?
an 11-28-63 cia document says:
<begin quote>
2. THE WEAPON WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN
EMPLOYED IN THIS CRIMINAL ATTACK IS A MODEL 91
RIFLE, 7.35 CALIBER, 1938 MODIFICATION."
if the four 7.35 carcanos ordered by barnes were used in dallas 11-22-63,
suppose they were to be used as throw downs at 3 sniper's nests in dealey
plaza and the 6th floor frame window?
what was that cloak and dagger abe greenbaum picked up at langley cia on his
chief "dirty dick's" desk? another carcano? was that the cloak and dagger
oswald saw on the window sill when he awoke before being framed and fled?
did oswald take the carcano with him when he fled and dump it in the 5th
floor stairwell? or did some floating spook (like the floating nun in blues
brothers) like mac wallace move it to the 5th floor stairwell?
In July, 1963, Morrow claims that Tracy Barnes "requested that I purchase
four Mannlicher 7.35 mm surplus rifles. According to Barnes, the rifles were
available in the Baltimore area from Sunny's Supply Stores. Upon my
agreement to make the purchase, Barnes requested that I alter the forepiece
of each rifle so that the rifles could be dismantled, hidden and reassembled
quickly. I thought this last request odd until I was informed that the
rifles were to be used for a clandestine operation."
<end quote>
from http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4403
Also "in the summer of 1963" Chauncey Holt indicated while working as a CIA
spook in the CIA shop in California they received an order for one of each
model of Manlicher-Carcano from Masen's Gun Shop in the Dallas area
(which Charles Harrelson was a part owner of), at a cost of $3 each.
was the "one of each model" to ensure when they got fake paperwork from
pepsi klein's used assassination weapons they would have a rifle to end up
in evidence? which happened to be a 6.5 carcano?
an 11-28-63 cia document says:
<begin quote>
2. THE WEAPON WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN
EMPLOYED IN THIS CRIMINAL ATTACK IS A MODEL 91
RIFLE, 7.35 CALIBER, 1938 MODIFICATION."
if the four 7.35 carcanos ordered by barnes were used in dallas 11-22-63,
suppose they were to be used as throw downs at 3 sniper's nests in dealey
plaza and the 6th floor frame window?
what was that cloak and dagger abe greenbaum picked up at langley cia on his
chief "dirty dick's" desk? another carcano? was that the cloak and dagger
oswald saw on the window sill when he awoke before being framed and fled?
did oswald take the carcano with him when he fled and dump it in the 5th
floor stairwell? or did some floating spook (like the floating nun in blues
brothers) like mac wallace move it to the 5th floor stairwell?
Raymond
Dec 26, 2011, 1:35:58 PM12/26/11
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On Dec 26, 9:57 am, "Sam McClung" <mccl...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.crime/browse_thread/thread/d1d146f...
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.crime/browse_thread/thread/d1d146f...
> <begin quote>
> The timeline of Bush’s movements are almost impossible to read without
> raising suspicions:
>
> 1. George Bush Sr. spent the night of November 21—and early the next
> day morning—in Dallas at the Sheraton Hotel. The next day, November
> 22, Bush flew out of Dallas on a friend’s private plane to nearby
> Tyler, Texas, AROUND 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting.
>
> 2. Surfacing in Tyler AROUND 1 PM, he begins a scheduled talk to a
> local KIWANIS CLUB. After being interrupted with the tragic news, he
> stoically halts the speech. At 1:45 he calls the FBI in Houston to
> claim that a local [Dallas] GOP employee, James Parrott, was acting
> suspiciously and might be JFK’s shooter. Parrott turns out to be
> harmless and childlike.
>
> 3. Later that same day he flies BACK to Dallas again, but leaves
> immediately—on a civilian flight—to return to Houston, where he lives.
> <end quote>
The Oil Man’s Cover Story
> The timeline of Bush’s movements are almost impossible to read without
> raising suspicions:
>
> 1. George Bush Sr. spent the night of November 21—and early the next
> day morning—in Dallas at the Sheraton Hotel. The next day, November
> 22, Bush flew out of Dallas on a friend’s private plane to nearby
> Tyler, Texas, AROUND 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting.
>
> 2. Surfacing in Tyler AROUND 1 PM, he begins a scheduled talk to a
> local KIWANIS CLUB. After being interrupted with the tragic news, he
> stoically halts the speech. At 1:45 he calls the FBI in Houston to
> claim that a local [Dallas] GOP employee, James Parrott, was acting
> suspiciously and might be JFK’s shooter. Parrott turns out to be
> harmless and childlike.
>
> 3. Later that same day he flies BACK to Dallas again, but leaves
> immediately—on a civilian flight—to return to Houston, where he lives.
> <end quote>
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/16/was-george-h-w-bush-involved-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/
Lately, however, perhaps at least partly in response to my work, Bush
and Co. have concocted a story that he was speaking in Tyler, Texas to
the Rotary Club. The vice-president of the Rotary Club, Aubrey Irby,
says that Bush was speaking when the bellhop came over and told him,
that Kennedy was dead (*1). Mr. Irby passed the information on to Mr.
Wendell Cherry, who passed it on to Bush; who stopped his speech. Irby
says that Bush explained that he thought a political speech, under the
circumstances, was inappropriate; and then he sat down. As a would-be
alibi proving Bush’s innocence, there are at least three huge problems
with this story.
PROBLEM 1: The first is that it is inconceivable that Bush would not
have remembered such an event; or that he would have left it out of
his autobiography, since it shows what a fine and respectful fellow he
is. If he didn’t remember it sooner, or include it in his
autobiography, it’s clearly because it never happened.
PROBLEM 2: The second huge problem with this story is that it
couldn’t possibly have happened; that is, it is made impossible by
Bush’s original alibi, his phone call to the FBI, as you’ll see:
The witness who tells this story, Aubrey Irby, says that Bush excused
himself and sat down. It doesn’t say that he rushed out of the room in
a frantic search for a phone. The problem is that Walter Cronkite’s
announcement to the world that Kennedy was dead came at 1:38.
Certainly, no one was listening to Walter Cronkite in the same room in
which Bush was speaking. Therefore we can be sure that this bellhop,
who told Irby that Kennedy was dead, was in another room. The bellhop
had to make the decision that he had heard enough of the news to leave
off listening to the news. This is no small point. Texas governor
Connally was severely wounded. Lyndon Johnson was reportedly wounded.
There was much other news to be confirmed.
At some point, then, the bellhop decided to stop listening and go make
an announcement. There’s no reason to think Irby would be the first
person he would tell. But at some point he went to the room where Bush
was speaking and informed Mr. Irby that the president was dead. This
walk to find Irby took time, of course. Mr. Irby had to receive the
information, and then he had to decide to inform Mr. Wendell Cherry,
the president of the Kiwanis. Mr. Cherry had to decide that he should
interrupt Bush’s speech; Mr. Cherry had to then walk over to Bush and
tell him the news.
FAMILY OF SECRETS (2008)
Bush had to decide what to say; and he had to say it. And, according
to the only witness, Mr. Irby, Bush “then sat down”. Somehow, when he
was finished sitting, without attracting Mr. Irby’s attention, Bush
had to seek and find a phone.
This would have been a hotel phone, so he would likely have had to go
through the hotel switchboard to get an outside line. Do you suppose
the switchboard was busy after the announcement of the President’s
death? It’s a good guess. In Washington D.C. so many people rushed to
make a phone call that the phone system went down.
In any case, once he got through to the hotel operator and got an
outside line, Bush then had to call information and get the number of
the FBI. After getting through to information, and getting the number,
he then had to call the FBI; and penetrate their switchboard, which
was, no doubt, very busy; and he had to locate an agent, on what must
have been the busiest day in the history of the Dallas bureau. How
many minutes do you suppose that would take?
Twenty seems a fair guess, though it seems implausible that a civilian
could even get through, given all the official police business going
on at the time. We know that the Dallas FBI was all over the murder
scene, confiscating camera film and intimidating witnesses; so it’s
hard to imagine how Bush, an hour after the shooting, was able to
reach an agent at all. Given the “sitting” that Mr. Irby observed Bush
doing, for all this to have transpired in 45 minutes would be tidy
work. But Bush had to do all of this, as the FBI memo states, by 1:45,
seven minutes after the news of Kennedy’s death first went out; which
is blatantly impossible.
PROBLEM 3: The third problem is this question of why Bush would feel
that it was necessary to concoct such a story at all? Why does he have
to tell us this lie? Why does he have to get others, like Irby, to lie
for him? The irony is that the harder he tries to make himself appear
innocent, by lying, the more evidence he gives us of his guilt.
(*1) Kitty Kelley, The Family: the Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, p.
213; cited by Russ Baker, Family of Secrets, p. 54
The city of Tyler, Texas, is centrally located between Dallas, Texas,
and Shreveport, Louisiana. ... times to ensure adequate time for
preboarding tasks to be completed. ...
Driving Distances from DALLAS to Tyler The driving distance from
Dallas, Texas to Tyler, Texas is:98 miles / 158 km 96 miles to
Dallas Love Field Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas Driving Miles: 96 Dallas
Love Field is 96 miles from Tyler, TX.
Closest Airport:
6 miles to Tyler Pounds Regional Airport
Tyler, Texas
Driving Miles: 6
Tyler Pounds Regional Airport is 6 miles from Tyler, TX.
108 miles to Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport
Dallas/Ft.Worth, Texas
Driving Miles: 108
Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport is 108 miles from Tyler, TX.
Redbird,Airport, Dallas, Texas - The community is flanked by the
Dallas Executive Airport (formerly Redbird Airport)
Type: Airport, Status: Operational, Acivation Date: 09/01/1948,
Runways: 2, Land Area Covered By Airport: 1070 acres,
Ownership:
Publicly owned, Facility Use: Open to public,
In May 1951 Collins Radio began an expansion program to build a one-
million dollar plant near the Dallas suburb of Richardson. A hanger
was leased at nearby Red Bird Airport to install and repair airborne
equipment. The move was due to a decentralization plan urged by the
Defense Department for security reasons.
According to Dick Russell, "At about 1:OO p.m. on the afternoon of
November 22, half an hour after the president was shot, neighbors who
lived along the road that runs by the little Redbird [sic] private
airport began calling police. A twin-engine plane, they reported, was
out there behaving very peculiarly. For an hour it had been revving
its engines, not on the runway but parked at the end of the airstrip
on a grassy area next to the fence. The noise prevented nearby
residents from hearing their TVs, as news came over about the terrible
events in downtown Dallas. But the police were too busy to check it
out, and shortly thereafter the plane took off....
A vice president at Collins Radio in Richardson knew George de
Mohrenschildt and Oswald.
Jason Burke
Dec 26, 2011, 5:05:14 PM12/26/11
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your conspiracy fantasy?
dji...@gmail.com
May 14, 2013, 11:24:19 PM5/14/13
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Plus like all liars caught in a lie his continuing lies make the poop surrounding him stick higher and higher up. In order for the "Bush in Tyler at 1:30 pm to work? He must explain how he even gets ahold of a phone in the short time between 1:30 pm when Walter Chronkite announces the president's death and 1:45 when special agent Kitchel records answering his FBI phone. Plus how does Bush even reach the FBI on their busiest day in history?
Funny how his ONLY witness to the "Bush in Tyler" alibi Mr Aubrey Irby dies not long after Russ Baker's book "Family Of Secrets" is published.
A far better explanation is that Bush was NOT in Tyler but was picked up in Dealey Plaza by the cops (immediately after the murder) and put into their custody for his own safety. The jeering crowd was ready to lynch him for his involvement in JFK's shooting. At the Dallas police or sheriff's office it was far easier to get a line out to FBI such as he did FINALLY at 1:45 pm.
Every time one of the Bush family talks about JFK and Dallas they step deeper and deeper into the mess. Barbara Bush memoirs of 1994 were completely obtuse in relation to her and her husband's whereabouts Nov 22. Perhaps she was concerned for her oldest son Dubya who actually shows up in Dallas too!!! Ye1h three fr1ms of junior too.
Sam McClung
May 15, 2013, 8:31:46 AM5/15/13
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<begin quote>
On Don Imus, a couple DUers reported hearing Michael Beschloss relate how
Barbara Bush, Poppy's wife, told him she and Junior were in Dallas that day
to "watch the parade." My guess is that Poppy would be nearby, perhaps on
business.
<end quote>
from
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3029417&mesg_id=3029702
"Junior" = george w bush aka shrub
On Don Imus, a couple DUers reported hearing Michael Beschloss relate how
Barbara Bush, Poppy's wife, told him she and Junior were in Dallas that day
to "watch the parade." My guess is that Poppy would be nearby, perhaps on
business.
<end quote>
from
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3029417&mesg_id=3029702
"Junior" = george w bush aka shrub
Sam McClung
May 15, 2013, 11:43:55 PM5/15/13
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maybe that wasn't joseph milteer?
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