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INSTANT REPLAY -- A KOOK-BASHING POST WORTH REVISITING

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David Von Pein

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Sep 4, 2008, 4:41:38 AM9/4/08
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>>> "Where did he {LHO} get the money for his extensive travels? He later claimed he had saved over $1,000 while in the Marines, but records show he had only $200 in his bank account. So, tell me. How did he make that trip, including all the amenities on his last $200, David?" <<<

And if I can't tell you exactly where and how Lee Oswald obtained the
money to travel to Russia (by way of Europe) in 1959, then you get to
believe in crazy, kooky pro-conspiracy stuff -- right Bob?

And then I'm supposed to follow suit and start believing that all of
the "Lone Assassin" evidence that's currently in existence that tells
a reasonable person that Oswald did, in fact, act alone on 11/22/63 is
all wrong, faked, planted, manipulated, or what-have-you? Is that
about it, Robert?

Oswald's extra cash in 1959 (FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO THE ASSASSINATION)
somehow equals "A CIA-Backed Conspiracy To Murder John Kennedy In
November 1963"?

Is that about the size of the situation, Bob?

Sorry, Bob, I'm not going down that road. You can travel down that
murky avenue by yourself (and with the other conspiracy kooks like
you).

>>> "Bugliosi is just another lame apologist and his claims are not grounded in reality." <<<

Yeah, sure. But Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, and their ilk ARE "grounded
in reality"....right Bob?

(Geez.)

>>> "Yes, they {the CIA} were supposed to maintain high security and keep secrets, but NOT from their own government." <<<

Says who? You?

Is that your own CIA rule, Bob?

Americans aren't supposed to shoot their own Presidents either. But
American Oswald did just that.

(Not the perfect analogy. But it's getting late in the day....so it'll
have to do for now.) ;)

>>> "David, can you think of a single case in which the CIA withheld information from all other govt. agencies unless they WERE up to no good? Take your time, David." <<<

Why don't you, Bob, go about the task of PROVING that anything that
was "withheld" by the CIA from Government agencies surrounding the JFK
murder was important and critical information that was absolutely
needed in order to answer the $64,000 inquiry -- "Did LHO Act Alone?"

Can you do that, Bob?

>>> "I thought you said you saw that documentary {"Who Was LHO?"}, David." <<<

I have seen it. Multiple times. I just interpret things a little
differently than you....such as Duran's comments, which mean zilch
when it comes to proving that Oswald was involved with the CIA or was
part of a multi-person plot to kill JFK in '63.

But if you want to make that large-sized leap of faith -- feel free to
make that jump. (But watch out for the hard landing.)

>>> "But claiming that it's perfectly normal for the CIA to coverup evidence about a Presidential assassin is just an insult to our intelligence." <<<

And what things did the CIA "cover up" about Lee Harvey Oswald that,
if fully revealed to the Warren Commission in 1963-1964, would have
completely changed the Commission's "Lone Assassin" conclusion?

Take your time, Bob.

>>> "LHO was a fanatical ANTI-communist, David." <<<

Oh goodie! Another example of a conspiracy kook turning the evidence
upside-down and inside-out!

IOW -- It's the good ol' "NOTHING AND NOBODY ARE EVER WHAT IT/THEY
SEEM TO BE" motto coming to the forefront once again.

E.G.:

1.) Lee Harvey Oswald, by all accounts, certainly seems to be a
Communist sympathizer. So, per Mr. Harris, he's actually exactly the
opposite.

2.) Oswald acted like a lone assassin in every single respect both
before and after 12:30 PM on 11/22/63 (and the physical/ballistics
evidence bears out this fact as well).

So, per most CTers, exactly the opposite is true (i.e., Oswald was
either a completely-innocent patsy or he was working in concert with
other assassins/conspirators).

3.) Jack Ruby's actions on 11/24/63 were obviously the actions of a
man who was not "stalking" his prey (Oswald) and were the actions of a
man who shot LHO on the spur of the moment, being aided by nothing
except garden-variety happenstance, sheer luck, and impeccable
basement-entering timing.

But, per most CTers, exactly the opposite is true, with Ruby working
for the Mob or the DPD in order to "silence" the "patsy".

4.) All of the physical and ballistics and medical evidence in the
case shows (undeniably) that President Kennedy was shot ONLY FROM
BEHIND (and by only TWO bullets).

But the CTers believe something else again....with the conspiracists
saying that JFK had holes in his head and body that totally contradict
the autopsy findings AND the authenticated photographs.

(Go figure.)

Has there EVER been another murder case in the history of mankind
where virtually EVERY single thing and every single hunk of official,
verified evidence has been second-guessed and turned on its head by a
crowd of conspiracy-seekers?

The O.J. trial might come to mind. But even that trial's evidence
hasn't been mangled as badly as the proven-to-be-factual (and LN-
leaning) evidence that has been misrepresented by conspiracy lovers in
the JFK murder case (and the J.D. Tippit case as well, which has had
its evidence completely skewed by CT morons too, without a doubt).

LET'S ALL NOW BASK IN ROBERT HARRIS' POST-ENDING SALVO OF ABSURDITIES
REGARDING LEE H. OSWALD (PLEASE HOLD ALL LAUGHTER UNTIL BOB FINISHES
SPOUTING HIS TRIPE):

>>> "After he {Oswald} left Russia, he used his phony {Communist sympathizer} legend like a wrecking ball, trying to do in the FBI's most despised enemies. I think he used that same tactic to kill two birds with one stone, David - get that pinko Kennedy and make everybody think Castro was behind it, so that we finally give Fidel his comeupance. He intended to martyr himself and he did. He just didn't count on LBJ wimping out over fears about WWIII. But he didn't do it alone, David. Perhaps he could have, but he didn't, though he was very likely, the one who fired the fatal shot." <<<

Okay, we've all held it in long enough --- let the laughter commence.


David Von Pein
February 2008

David Von Pein

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Sep 4, 2008, 4:46:09 AM9/4/08
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>>> "He {LHO} was NEVER on the bus." <<<

Goodie! More baloney coming from a CTer whom I didn't think could sink
any deeper into his morass of invented kookshit!

So, Robcap thinks that the cops (or somebody) must have PLANTED the
bus transfer in Oswald's shirt pocket on 11/22/63 (complete with the
accurate date and timestamping, plus Cecil McWatters' unique crescent-
shaped hole punch on the paper transfer)....

AND:

....Rob-Kook also must think that witness Mary E. Bledsoe was a liar
when she positively identified Oswald as having been on McWatters' bus
on Nov. 22.

Wasn't it nice and convenient for the cops and (later) the Warren
Commission to be able to come up with so many different witnesses who
were willing to tell lie after lie when they said they saw Lee Oswald
in various places and doing various things on 11/22 that kooks like
Robcap believe are not true at all? ---

E.G.:

1.) Bledsoe and the bus incident.

2.) Virginia & Barb Davis and the Tippit murder. (Plus Markham,
Scoggins, Callaway, Tatum, and all the rest of the witnesses near 10th
Street.)

3.) Howard Brennan and JFK's murder.

AND:

Wasn't it also convenient for the assassination plotters (and for the
CTers later on) to have so many other people tell a string of lies for
years on end, in order to further the continuing "cover-up" that the
CT-Kooks think is still being perpetuated to this day by some people?
---

E.G.:

1.) Humes, Finck, & Boswell and JFK's autopsy. Those three autopsy
doctors ALL lied (per the CT-Kooks) when they ALL agreed that JFK was
shot just TWICE, and both bullets hit the President from ABOVE and
BEHIND.

2.) The various police officers who collected and handled the evidence
in ways which the conspiracy kooks think was suspicious or mysterious
in some manner...with those officers (all of them, save Roger "Big Fat
Liar" Craig) all testifying in ways that can lead to only one possible
conclusion -- i.e., Lee Oswald fired three shots at JFK and four or
five shots at J.D. Tippit on November 22, 1963.

3.) The Warren Commission (which was a panel full of nothing but "I
WANT OSWALD TO BE GUILTY NO MATTER WHAT" clowns, per the CT-Kooks).

4.) The HSCA (which, per CTers, must have been an organization that
was comprised of either complete idiots or WC-backing shills, to a
large degree anyway, since the HSCA agreed with WC regarding Oswald as
the only gunman who hit any victims with any bullets in Dealey Plaza
or on Tenth Street).

Apparently, per the rabid conspiracy theorists who will believe in
anything in order to make Lee Oswald appear totally innocent of any
wrong-doing in Dallas in Nov. 1963, there was an all-encompassing plot
and cover-up in place after the assassination (save Roger "Big Fat
Liar" Craig), engaged in by many different agencies and organizations
and investigative bodies, in order to pull the wool over the
collective eyes of the general public and attempt to make that public
believe that a COMPLETELY INNOCENT Lee Harvey Oswald, by himself,
murdered not only President Kennedy, but also J.D. Tippit as well.

That type of blanket conspiratorial scenario, which is almost
certainly accepted as FACT by many conspiracists worldwide, is just
flat-out idiotic. And always has been. Simple as that.

CTers have their dreams. But LNers, thankfully, have an obviously-
guilty Lee Harvey Oswald (not to mention all of the bullets and all of
the other physical evidence, to boot).


David Von Pein
February 2008


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Gil Jesus

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Sep 4, 2008, 7:23:38 AM9/4/08
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And after all, David, isn't THAT what it's all about ?

Feeding one's ego by Bashing ?

David Von Pein

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Sep 4, 2008, 7:33:12 AM9/4/08
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Haven't you been embarrassed enough for one day, Gil?

Why would a person who is already moribund keep insisting on
additional pummelings?

A curious hobby.

But, then again, what can one expect from a kook named Jesus?

curtjester1

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Sep 4, 2008, 12:51:52 PM9/4/08
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The 'Pea Brain' never fails to amuse. First he introduces a 'kook
thread' by admitting he can't answer a question about how got greased
to the Soviet Union.

At least your Pard, 'Crafty' came up with the Food Stamp Program.
Wow, that would be something to make minimum wage and do all that
without getting those Stamps. Now, your gov't is surely going to
give you money to go when you are doing Commie Monkey Shines in a
highly sensitive base, and give you all the best in a height of a Cold
War with your enemy. UNLESS...it was a ruse that they knew to begin
with and having a mission to accomplish.

I rate your post 5 Peas, for the best amusing Brain Loss to the
Cerebral areas in a long time.

CJ

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