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mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 21, 2010, 12:36:08 AM7/21/10
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http://www.lazygranch.com/images/a51pan/july2010/cam.jpg
http://www.lazygranch.com/images/a51pan/july2010/cam2.jpg

About 500 pixels from the left. Looks like a small tower on the hill
in the foreground. Or I'm inhaling....

Lumpy

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Jul 21, 2010, 1:02:45 AM7/21/10
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In the 2nd one (cam2.jpg) it almost looks like a Yagi
on top of that mast/tower.

Perhaps a bit like this -
http://digitalcartography.com/n0eq/astro/Bivouac4Peaks-01.jpg


Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

www.n0eq.com


mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 21, 2010, 4:22:05 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 20, 10:02 pm, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:

> m...@sushi.com wrote:
> >http://www.lazygranch.com/images/a51pan/july2010/cam.jpg
> >http://www.lazygranch.com/images/a51pan/july2010/cam2.jpg
>
> > About 500 pixels from the left. Looks like a small tower on the hill
> > in the foreground. Or I'm inhaling....
>
> In the 2nd one (cam2.jpg) it almost looks like a Yagi
> on top of that mast/tower.
>
> Perhaps a bit like this -http://digitalcartography.com/n0eq/astro/Bivouac4Peaks-01.jpg
>
> Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
>
> www.n0eq.com

I think the deal with the 2nd photo is you are seeing a shadow from a
pole in the background. The photos were done at different times, hence
different shadows. I also thought there was an antenna in the 2nd shot
but changed my mind with the "shadow" theory.

I noticed there is a large tower at 37°15'5.90"N 115°46'32.08"W. It
is an area you can't see from Tikaboo. It might be what shows up in
the photo. I need to check it out with Mapsource. However, it sure
looks like there is a bit of infrastructure on the hill. Then again,
you see stuff on google earth and when you get their physically, there
really isn't anything there. Maybe the area is a bit devoid of growth
because there is too much rock at the surface, i.e. situations like
that.

I called the photos "cam" because it reminded me of the tower they put
up near the front gate a few years ago. But of course I have no idea
what is on the tower, or even if it is a tower.

Regarding the large tower, it does seem in the photo that the tower
goes right down to the ridge seen in the front of the photo, so maybe
that discounts the large tower being what is shown.

Gosh Darn

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Jul 25, 2010, 4:40:23 PM7/25/10
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I would be afraid to go out in the desert alone, three
things happened to me that makes me paranoid in my
old age.

When I drove south from I-15 on the east side of
the Virgin River I did not think I was going up hill much,
but with all the windows open, I could hear the wind
sounds as if it was very windy.

The wheel tracks I was following went in between
boulders 20 to 40 feet in diameter and then started
down a steep hill.
I stopped right away, I didn't want to be below
those boulders if there was even a minor earthquake,
and the grade was getting so steep I didn't know if
the car could back up.
I don't think the car had a dual brake master
cylinder, and if the brakes would have failed, and
the wind noise was from being at the edge of a
cliff at the Colorado River, it could have been bad.

Another time I turned off the freeway near
Death Valley where there was supposed to be
fire opal deposits, and about 5 miles or so in,
the battery cable got against the hot exhaust
manifold and shorted and blew out one of the
lead connections between cells on the 6 volt
battery.
Lucky I had jumper cables, I dug the pitch
out from around the connections and used one
cable to make the connection and continued on.
I found some rocks that look like there may
have been opal in them and held one and hit
it with the rock hammer, and didn't close my
eyes like I usually did, and fragments hit both
eyes, and I couldn't see hardly at all.
I always had two desert water bags, and
I rinsed my eyes with water every 5 minutes
and finally after about an hour I could see
well enough to drive.

Even with cell phones now it still could
be bad, maybe a satellite phone, extra car
battery, and somebody that could drive to
go along, I might feel confident.

mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 25, 2010, 5:11:58 PM7/25/10
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On Jul 25, 1:40 pm, Gosh Darn <stealth...@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:36:08 -0700 (PDT), "m...@sushi.com"

I use a SPOT satellite messenger. I'm sure the base tracks me. I carry
a few gel cell batteries to run radios, but can jump start myself with
the battery. I bring a ridiculous amount of water. I generally have a
jerry can of water as well, though the last time I managed to get a
pinhole leak in my can thanks to a small but sharp pebble.

Flat tires are a reality. You need a full size spare. The Death Valley
rangers often have two spares.

I got a flat leaving TIkaboo. I made it back to California without a
spare. I hate buying tires in Vegas. The tire shops are so expensive
in Vegas. I'm accustomed to things in Vegas costing more then
California, but the tire shops are just outrageous. Perhaps Costco is
the same price, but they don't carry my tire. The food at the
Summerlin Costco is more expensive than in California too. Two Buck
Chuck in Vegas is three bucks. Of course, housing is a hell of a lot
cheaper in Vegas, but that doesn't do me any good.

You would have to have a pretty old car not to have dual master
cylinder. I think they were mandated in the late 60s.

Lumpy

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Jul 25, 2010, 5:45:35 PM7/25/10
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mi...@sushi.com wrote:
> Flat tires are a reality. You need a full size spare. The Death Valley
> rangers often have two spares.

Then of course, you could throw caution to the wind.
'56 VW bus, no spare, no fuel gauge. Drive to
Barker ranch at night.

Possible, but not recommended.


Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

www.n0eq.com


mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 26, 2010, 2:10:46 AM7/26/10
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On Jul 25, 2:45 pm, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:

I read they burned down the Manson lair. Reality?

Lumpy

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Jul 26, 2010, 2:52:00 AM7/26/10
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mi...@sushi.com wrote:
> I read they burned down the Manson lair. Reality?

Yep it burned. Just after the local S.O. went up there
and did some cadaver sniffing and other forensic
studies. They were investigating reports that there
may have been several bodies buried up there.

I'm not sure how that turned out. The cadaver dogs
lit up on some stuff.

Lots of the structures at Death Valley have burned
down mysteriously. Some suggest it's militant NPS
employees that want to see the parks return to more
natural states, sans traces of man.

I'm not convinced either way. I know when it used
to be a Natl Monument, lots of Park people would
openly complain about the various structures
on the monument and that they'd like to see it
turned into a park.

But yes, Barker ranch is now charcoal.


Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

www.n0eq.com


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