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Tonopah Test Range images June 2010

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mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 13, 2010, 3:17:35 AM7/13/10
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http://www.lazygranch.com/images/ttr/june2010/ttr_62010.jpg
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http://www.lazygranch.com/images/ttr/june2010/ttr_062010_large.jpg

I suggest saving the files and viewing with Irfanview as these files
will probably be too large for your browser.

More to come ...

Gosh Darn

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Jul 13, 2010, 3:10:55 PM7/13/10
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Ok, what the hell kind of camera took those, I saw
panorama cameras that turned beginning when I was
in grade school in the early 1930s, but they didn't
make images with even 20 percent such an extreme
aspect ratio.

Also I work with 200 megabyte image files that
don't have the resolution of that big image at 13.3

I loaded it in my ACDsee 4.9 image editor and
rotated it 90 degrees to print on my 24 inch wide
printer, but realized the print would be over 20 feet
long, and I don't have a wall long enough to hang
it on.

IE called up Firefox for some reason, and Firefox
displayed the image so it all fit on the screen, so it
had hardly no height at all.

If it is not a secret please post the details on
the camera.


mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 14, 2010, 1:06:45 AM7/14/10
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On Jul 13, 12:10 pm, Gosh Darn <stealth...@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:17:35 -0700 (PDT), "m...@sushi.com"

I just pasted single frames side by side. I attempt to do a good job,
but generally you can spot where I go from one frame to the next. The
lens is telescope plus barlow, making it about 2200mm in equivalent
focal length. Those shots are from about 15 miles away.

http://www.ptgui.com/

is probably the best of the bunch if you want to warp the images
before connecting them together. There is also a free version (the
predecessor to the commercial product) All I do is apply gradients to
even out the light, since the center of an image is usually a hot
spot. I also apply a gradient to attenuate the blue channel as you go
from bottom to top of the image, with more blue attenuation at the
top. This is because the top of the image contains areas that are
further way, with more distance equating to more atmosphere, and thus
more haze.

The image itself is filters with a KR1.5 and a 400nm low pass filter.
The lowpass kills the haze due to scattering (which is proportional to
the inverse of the 4th power of the wavelength), while the KR1.5
reduces the blue gradually to restore a natural balance.

Gosh Darn

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:51:12 AM7/14/10
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Thanks, it sounds too complicated for an old man,
I hate learning new programs, even though I have bought
newer versions of Forte Agent and ACDsee, I still use
versions almost 10 years old.

Great work though, thanks.

mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 15, 2010, 2:32:32 AM7/15/10
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Gosh Darn

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Jul 15, 2010, 8:04:32 AM7/15/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:32:32 -0700 (PDT), "mi...@sushi.com"
<mi...@sushi.com> wrote:

>On Jul 13, 12:17 am, "m...@sushi.com" <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
>> http://www.lazygranch.com/images/ttr/june2010/ttr_62010.jpg
>> orhttp://www.lazygranch.com/images/ttr/june2010/ttr_062010_large.jpg
>>
>> I suggest saving the files and viewing with Irfanview as these files
>> will probably be too large for your browser.
>>
>> More to come ...
>
>Part deux:
>

>> http://www.lazygranch.com/images/ttr/june2010/black_mountain_radomes.jpg


That reminds me of the radar station I saw half way up
Mount Charleston in 1963, I just took it for granted it was
one of several around the test site.

Nellis was fairly active at the time, but the city
was a fraction of the present size.

I liked to take trips out in the desert, the humidity
was still around one percent at that time. I went east
on I-15 to the Virgin river and turned right instead of
left, and almost ended up in the Colorado River.
There didn't seem to be anything on the map
north of I-15.

But the SR-71 or A-12 did not seem to be a big
secret, in 1964 I went to an open house at Edwards
and they had one model way out from the crowd,
but flew it a couple of times during that day.


NC

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Jul 15, 2010, 2:06:30 PM7/15/10
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"Gosh Darn" <steal...@iglou.com> wrote in message
news:kmtt365ip3aok4ksg...@4ax.com...

Actually, LBJ revealed the existence of the YF-12 interceptor version at the
end of Feb 1964. It landed at EAFB the same morning of his news conference.
Bob Gilland flew the first flight of the SR-71 in Dec 1964 out of Palmdale.
The A-12 stayed under wraps for a few more years.

Lumpy

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Jul 15, 2010, 2:40:05 PM7/15/10
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NC wrote:
> Actually, LBJ revealed the existence of the YF-12 interceptor version
> at the end of Feb 1964...

I think Joerg announced it even before LBJ.


Lump


mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 15, 2010, 3:06:47 PM7/15/10
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LBJ got all the numbers wrong, but of course the president is always
right.

mi...@sushi.com

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Jul 15, 2010, 3:14:01 PM7/15/10
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On Jul 15, 5:04 am, Gosh Darn <stealth...@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:32:32 -0700 (PDT), "m...@sushi.com"

Did you see it from Mt. Charleston or on Mt. Charleston? If it was on
Mt. Charleston, I'm guessing it was an old incarnation of what is now
the Angels Peak facility.

There were quite a few tracking stations in those hills back in the
day. Beatty has a NASA site, and of course it saw the stuff flying out
of Groom. Tonopah had an early warning system on what is now the Mt.
Brock communication site.

The Beatty site just exists as slabs of concrete. Some people use it
as a camping site since it does have a view of the Nellis airspace.
One thing to keep in mind is just about every flashing light in the
sky you see from the east side of the range (i.e. looking west) is
commercial air traffic flying along route 95 (more or less). When you
view the airspace from the west, you are usually seeing Nellis
aircraft. Any cheap night vision will catch the flashing strobe from
well over 100 miles away.

Gosh Darn

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Jul 15, 2010, 6:15:04 PM7/15/10
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The radar station was on the northeast of the
Charleston peak at about 8000 or 9000 feet, about
half a mile east of the steep curve around the mountain.

Considering that when I was in the Army Air Force
in 1947 there was no radar that I knew of other than
GCA (Ground Controlled Approach) that was used in
pilot training and proficiency, and even that was not
at all airfields, the station on Charleston could not
have been much more than 10 years old.

Sorry for using the term airfield, but there were
no Air Force Bases in early 1947.

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