New Political Party of Athena
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
marriage; seeing as since Clinton signed DOMA in 1996, there has
clearly been a trail of homophobic policy running through the Dems; and
seeing as there is no existing party truly supportive of gay
marriage/rights:
I want to form a new party, and call it: The Party of Athena. And
members shall be called "Athenians". And our constitution shall
comprise the BEST of all humane and progressive constitutions that have
come before. But with two special conditions: (1) that our party first
serves the freedom and needs of all sexual minorities, before assisting
any other group (whether persecuted or not), and (2) that our party
strives to form a new nation just for queers, whether through secession
or other means. (Sorta like Holland in a lot of ways...only instead of
remaing a heterocentric society, Athenians will form a homocentric
one.)
Athenians are also totally pro-pagan and women's suffrage. In fact,
that is why "Athena" is my chosen title for this new party. We stand
for 100% secular government. For more specific examples of what we
stand for, read my platform for world's first gay president:
http://www.gay-bible.org/zeke-4-prez.htm
IOW, my platform is also the party platform. (Anyone who knows how I
can go about establishing this party for real, I'd appreciate some
tips! Especially regarding regarding putting me in touch with
interested or curious persons of influence. No men, or women--or
trannies for that matter--in white coats and butterfly nets, thank you
very much!)
Let this message be for the (unofficial) record: that I, Ezekiel J.
Krahlin of San Francisco, California, am the true founder of the "Party
of Athena". Now, to post this to diverse newsgroups...just another busy
day in the life of a queer deadbeat. :D
SinQueerly,
Zeke Krahlin
http://www.gay-bible.org
February 24, 2005
--
Let's secede from those who breed:
Make it a sin to NOT waste seed!
Hail Athenia, brave new gay nation!
Azure
Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature.
From them came Gaia, Rhea, Danu, Nemedia, Morgan, and many others.
Scythians (Sethians) Gaelic (Halic), Tribes of Salt, Covenant of Salt.
They taught of the ELPH or EEK, the One, That Which Is Was and Forever
Shall Be, the Great Terrible Unknown.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
<<
Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature.
>>
I have no problem with that. Please elaborate; I appreciate your
wisdom. And have a beautiful day (and night), Azure!
--
Zeke Krahlin
http://www.gay-bible.org
Azure
of Delphi, well a man came first but the women took over after him.
Nemedia was the Oracle who got Raped (Man forced his sins upon)
Nemedia thereafter went off becoming from what I can find the Great
Bear, He was an Ursa.
Nemedia became the Nemesis Witch, her Sister Morgan then took over as
Head of the Tribe.
There was a 3rd Wiliston who disappeared, their Tribes were the ones who
built Castles in the Clouds.
There is an ancient Gaelic City on the East Coast of the United States
called the American Stonehenge, and Quite a Legend about a Tribe of
people who were very different from others who built cities in the
mountain cliffs, led to the Hopi legends of the Kachina's.
They are the Tribes of the Valise? Valley's of France, (Numbers 13:)
from where Paris the River comes.
Paris is descended from Lough or the Lake, (also Jove, Jaf, Djaf, Oasis)
Lough is descended from Bel, Bel is descended from Danu, Danu is
descended from Rhea, Rhea is descended from Gaia.
They are the Tribes of the Law, Nuada was the "Long Arm of the Law"
Nemedia is Nemesis aka Justice and Karma.
Paris is the Bear, Bar Har, Bruin Gi, or Brownie magic only works for
justice.
Right will always prevail.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
<<
Badb is a long story,
>>
Why, then, this is only an honor, that you take the time for my sake,
to distill a bit of your wisdom...that I may partake from this fountain
like a parched warrior finally come off the dusty battlegrounds to
finally receive the blessings and gratitude he has so sorely craved
ever since a wee lad.
May I remark how eloquent you write, in your description of these
brilliant (and not so brilliant) realms, whose essence remains
untouched by Christian dogma; and so it shall remain unto eternity.
Blessed be!
<<
Tribes of Nemedia, Nemedians, The Original Oracles
of Delphi,
>>
I've been having visions of Delphi. Apollo and Artemis glorify me with
their attentions. In fact, Apollo has been my main guardian all my
life. I think there are 11 others; and that each human has 12 angels
(if that is what you want to call them).
well a man came first but the women took over after him.
<<
Nemedia was the Oracle who got Raped (...etc.)
>>
Thank you so much for your wisdom-in-a-nutshell re. Badb's story. I'm
saving it of course, in my "spiritual musing" folder of my PC. I now
have various significant terms, thanks to you, that I can research
further, on the web (and elsewhere).
My own site is overflowing with records of my visions. There is a heavy
Celtic and pre-Celtic spirit in them...along with Greek Mythology and
thought, Native American traditions, Shamanism, and Animism. With the
additional perspective of being a sexual minority.
You obviously guard one of the gates passing into the fey kingdom.
Cerberus guards such gates, in fact all those gates! When I stand
before Him, it is never with a desire to go beyond, but to wonder who
Cerberus is, and if he'd like a friend.
I have Celtic visions of a cerberus-type creature: only it's a
three-headed wolf, or even werewolf! Wearing a fine silver-chain
necklace from which dangles a silver triangle wrought with Celtic knots
throughout. It represent the Celtic Trinity, which is:
<<
Right will always prevail.
>>
Oh, your optimism is an inspiration! I have concluded the same outlook
is best, and just written about it to my friend John in Philadelphia,
who needs some encouragement through an ordeal. And this is what I
wrote:
--begin excerpt:
I've given this a lot of thought, since you first brought up the
"old man's curse". It is simply but one among a vast arsenal of
nihilistic weapons those in power are hurling at us constantly,
now that they have complete control of the mass media. (The
Internet is still very much the renegade, and will remain so.
Because OUR hackers (Blue Rose Militia) now have complete
control over cyberspace...and will soon make our presence known
to the world.
The medical society is trying to worry us to an early
grave...after first stocking up on all those expensive meds year
after year!
AIDS will some day be called the world's first genetically
engineered plague. Gays of course being the laboratory rats. But
some of us rats have escaped w/o leaving, disappeared w/o
vanishing, and undermined w/o underpinning.
There are SO many things that can make us desperately ill or
injured or tortured or bashed these days (ACCORDING TO THE
MEDIA), one could easily freak out in less than 10 minutes
thinking about it! It is as if everything we touch now, or
breathe, or eat, or wear, is infused with at least a trace of
inevitable toxin of one sort or another.
Not that my vision has manifest to that extent yet, but I believe
I'm in telepathic communication with others, who've carried out
a number of my activist strategies with great success. More and
more gay politicos are quoting from my web pages, thus
impressing their captive audiences with their brilliantly gilded
tongues!
I do not get any recognition yet, but I know that is due soon;
this year in fact. I think it will happen in about two months,
but maybe sooner, maybe NOW. Not. :(
But here is my philosophy in a nutshell:
Let us choose then the path of joy. Let us put into practice, the
wisdom we have gained by our counterculture stance. We summon
Buddha; we pray to Christ; we powwoww for the Great Spirit; we
walk on coals for Vodun; we chant Hare Krishna; and if we are
really wise we smoke-a the ganja whenever!
Heartfelt RATIONAL optimism is the ONLY weapon we have, and (good
news) it's the only weapon we need. And it's RATIONAL to believe
in angels; without trying to cloak it all in some quantum
physics neuron-pulsing brain phenomenon! And if you strive to be
optimistic each day, you'll always be in the very best company:
the company of angels.
This is NOT wishful thinking, but simply the conceptual OPPOSITE
of the evil warlords now casting a blackened cloud across all of
Gaia.
--end of excerpt
I hope this is ample evidence that I am either an ancient pre-Celtic
spirit, or harbor the spirit of one! The wisdom I just spoke was given
unto me by angels, not books or anything of man. There is more, much
more. I am in that annoying situation of seeking out my people...when I
realize the networking will evolve w/o any effort on my part, at this
point.
I have visions of northenmost Scotland around 800 B.C., and my father a
beloved king. And I was created not from womb, but magicke...a magicke
so strong, that Wizard Merlin's power was but a tiny spark in
comparison!
And visions of a great green and red dragon that burys its egg deep,
deep in the center of Stonehenge. And I see the egg hatch and the
dragon re-emerge after a long slumber.
I see bright streaks of light radiating along the firth that leads into
Loch Ness. Looking down at the planet, these rays emanate brighter by
far than any other light on earth! What does this convey? I know it's
not anything bad, like atomic explosion...and seems to be the Ancient
Elven Force desiring to re-emerge from a distant past.
I know I'm a true prophet (or visionary or avatar), and I also know
that I am not the only one presently alive. I surmise around 80,000 on
the planet, who will be the vanguards to this new age of liberation,
and the major nodes of this global telepathic network.
The angels tell me so many things, my head swims! I am seeking to bring
my voice to the public, as I am most gifted with liberating sexual
minorities, through my spoken and written words. A lot are very funny,
as humor is the Great Healer.
It is not for me to be able to interpret my visions more than
generally. It is up for others gifted with discernment, to learn what
the metaphors mean or convey, in order to draw the Big Picture. Have
you gotten any meanings from my description of a few visions? Like,
what is this about Scotland and Stonehenge becoming so prominent in the
near future? I can generally surmise that pagan pathways will re-emerge
as a potent healing force all over the world. And that the heart of
paganism resides in parts of the British Isles.
I very much enjoyed reading your eloquent descriptions, Azure. I KNOW
I'll have lovely dreams tonight!
MEDITATION ON LOVE
©1998 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
Love is not choice,
but calling,
When the net of compassion keeps two
from falling.
Love is the seed of miracles,
Gift of the Elfin Folke.
(What few know to be true treasure,
Most perceive as a joke!)
It is the negation of fact
apparent
Into the realm of mystery
transparent.
Love is the heart on wings
(And also the thorn that stings).
It is the whisper between War
And the anguish between Peace,
The Battle of Armageddon
Against the Ego Beast.
Love is the brother
Whose hand is far-reaching enough
To touch the heart of another.
---finis
--
Zeke Krahlin, founder
Party of Athena
http://www.gay-bible.org
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
Ooops, I neglected to describe this "Celtic Trinity (or Triangle)".
Here 'tis:
Discernment, Judgment, Vengeance
There is the Wolf (or Werewolf) of Discernment, the Wolf of Judgment,
and the Wolf of Vengeance (or Justice, to the weak-stomached).
The First Werewolf (whose name is Damien in my visions) sniffs each
soul as it passes by, so he can DISCERN any evil contained in that
soul. If evil enough, Wolfie 1 rushes him over to receive Judgment by
Wolfie 2 (whose name I do not know), who then kicks him over to Wolfie
3 (whose name I also do not know) who carries out the sentence down to
every jot and tittle.
I have visions of Werewolf Damien suddenly appearing in the mundane
world, smack dab in the center of Picadilly Square. His magic protects
him from being touched, or harmed by anything of earth or man. He is a
teenager, with a glorious pink/green mohawk that very much make him
look like some exotically handsome bird of paradise. But then, there's
his face: a provocative fusing of human and Siberian Husky.
He wants to be the first Werewolf in history to go vegan.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
He wants to be the first Werewolf in history to go vegan.
>>
So he starts his own line of animal-product-free microwavable cuisine,
which is most reminiscent of our dear departed Linda McCartney's health
food, only without all that filler, whatever that stuff was..
Azure
chief-t...@gay-bible.org wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:56:39 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>
> <<
> Badb is a long story,
> >>
>
> Why, then, this is only an honor, that you take the time for my sake,
> to distill a bit of your wisdom...that I may partake from this fountain
> like a parched warrior finally come off the dusty battlegrounds to
> finally receive the blessings and gratitude he has so sorely craved
> ever since a wee lad.
Following here also, but after seeing that which is at 15, I met my
other and was happy to flow, then they broke us during an enviornmental
action.
It was then Nemesis started talking to me.
>
> May I remark how eloquent you write,
Ty not many say that foresure.
in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant) realms,
whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma;
Wrong, they are very touched, Tribes of the Law, knew the teachings
before Rome, Tsins are Romes Nemesis, the Gaelic, they are the
Gailatians? hope thats right, don't have the Book infront of me.
But the Letters of Paul thing.
Gaelic are the Halic Tribes of Salt (Stone of Food).
Tsins in Asia, Bar to the Norse.
Did you know Bear or Bar is the Same word, Bar as in Lawyers also comes
from Bear, Tribes of Law.
Bar or Bare means the Children.
Numbers 13:16 teachings of Cyclopse, from Jason, who has blinded you.
Badb Shi is also Banshee
Eshcol is a Place in Northern France where the Bears come from, it is
the Place of Paris, the River.
and so it shall remain unto eternity.
No, it ends.
> Blessed be!
>
> <<
> Tribes of Nemedia, Nemedians, The Original Oracles
> of Delphi,
> >>
>
> I've been having visions of Delphi. Apollo and Artemis glorify me with
> their attentions.
From what I have found Apollo is Dionysis, the preferred or choosen
descendant.
The word Delphi I found is related to ELPH, D'ELPHI
I like the teachings in the part about the Rape of Nemedia, where the
Old Crones take over after Nemedia was raped, its a drag show, the
Dionysians took over.
It also started a great Fued between the Bears and Wolves.
Beowulf (Bear Wolf) ended it.
But that was when Wolves became known as sexual predators.
Also the tale of Galataia seeking refuge from the Cyclopse by joining
the water.
In fact, Apollo has been my main guardian all my
> life. I think there are 11 others; and that each human has 12 angels
> (if that is what you want to call them).
The Circle.
> well a man came first but the women took over after him.
>
> <<
> Nemedia was the Oracle who got Raped (...etc.)
> >>
>
> Thank you so much for your wisdom-in-a-nutshell re. Badb's story.
I'm saving it of course, in my "spiritual musing" folder of my PC. I now
have various significant terms, thanks to you, that I can research
further, on the web (and elsewhere).
The Lebor Gaebala or Book of Conquests is the Tale of the Tribes being
driven from Egypt after Ackhnotin and Neffertti, then the exodus from
Babylon, they are the Medions.
Then after Greece, they left.
There was a gathering in Norway by half those who followed the sunset,
the others followed the sun rise, left a cleaner trail, Rome did not go
past the Taurus Mnts., thats where the Theban Citadel is, the D'Elphien,
Temple or Bottemless Pit with the Voice Activated Doorway.
>
> My own site is overflowing with records of my visions. There is a heavy
> Celtic and pre-Celtic spirit in them...along with Greek Mythology and
> thought, Native American traditions, Shamanism, and Animism. With the
Gaelic are also Ravens, the Blues its Hair Color Blue Black, and
"Beardless".
> additional perspective of being a sexual minority.
>
> You obviously guard one of the gates passing into the fey kingdom.
> Cerberus guards such gates,
Foo Dogs are the Guardians of the Temple, the Werewolves.
in fact all those gates! When I stand
> before Him, it is never with a desire to go beyond, but to wonder who
> Cerberus is, and if he'd like a friend.
>
> I have Celtic visions of a cerberus-type creature: only it's a
> three-headed wolf, or even werewolf!
Read the Tale of Lucifer in the Bible, Tain or Au Tain, and Cochulain
(The Red Hound) Baylor, The Cyclopses Son.
The Great Giant Nuada slew with a sheaperds sling.
Wearing a fine silver-chain
> necklace from which dangles a silver triangle wrought with Celtic knots
> throughout. It represent the Celtic Trinity, which is:
>
> <<
> Right will always prevail.
> >>
>
> Oh, your optimism is an inspiration! I have concluded the same outlook
> is best,
To the Bears it is a Promise from God, a Covenant.
and just written about it to my friend John in Philadelphia,
> who needs some encouragement through an ordeal.
I wish him well in his endevors.
That is the discription
>
> I know I'm a true prophet (or visionary or avatar), and I also know
> that I am not the only one presently alive. I surmise around 80,000 on
> the planet, who will be the vanguards to this new age of liberation,
> and the major nodes of this global telepathic network.
>
> The angels tell me so many things, my head swims! I am seeking to bring
> my voice to the public, as I am most gifted with liberating sexual
> minorities, through my spoken and written words. A lot are very funny,
> as humor is the Great Healer.
>
> It is not for me to be able to interpret my visions more than
> generally. It is up for others gifted with discernment, to learn what
> the metaphors mean or convey, in order to draw the Big Picture. Have
> you gotten any meanings from my description of a few visions? Like,
> what is this about Scotland and Stonehenge becoming so prominent in the
> near future? I can generally surmise that pagan pathways will re-emerge
> as a potent healing force all over the world. And that the heart of
> paganism resides in parts of the British Isles.
Not Paganism if they wrote the story.
>
> I very much enjoyed reading your eloquent descriptions, Azure. I KNOW
> I'll have lovely dreams tonight!
>
> MEDITATION ON LOVE
>
> Š1998 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
Azure
Satanachi
Achi is Asian Werewolf teachings.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
>Satanachi Achi is Asian Werewolf teachings.
Wow. Thank you. How remarkable. I've read your other message, and will
respond in two days, after mulling all this over in my mind. You will
allow me the selfish indulgence I trust, of first learning more about
Satanachi Achi.
The loveliest little tale I ever spun still is, I believe, "Brian and
the Werewolf". It now has a second part, the result of the Werewolf's
visiting me in my dreams to reveal to me some of the werewolves'
deepest secrets. It's absolutely beautiful. In fact, I woke up to
sit by my computer, as Damien (the Werewolf) dictated to me, exactly
what to write down! The revelations unraveled as my fingers blurred in
swift motions across the keyboard.
Of course, I could just be plain crazy...but that is also the typical
cloak often bestowed upon the true pilgrim. I have concluded otherwise
(good thing I'm my best friend :D), They are just so rich in imagery
and extraordinary in concepts, that I don't feel they are my own
orginal thoughts. I think they are programmed into me (so to speak),
telepathically, by spiritual beings I call angels.
I will return in two days, with further ruminations. Thanks for your
wonderful insights. I know many hidden treasures lie therein!
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
matter, Azure, I'd greatly appreciate; and my angels tell me you can):
Do you have any idea which spirit or deity is channeling this British
isles Celtic and pre-Celtic wisdom, including many tales that are
either 100% original, or a ressurection of very ancient tales 'cause
buried for so, so long?
That is, perhaps you are familiar with people who channel the spirits
of the Emerald Isles and there-around. I seem to be one...but all this
wisdom comes not from outside, but from within. Of course my earthly
classes in anthropology and world religions was a big help in paving my
way...but are nonetheless a minor component to a very, very BIG
picture.
The way I use my words, my type of humor: does this match any of the
personalities among the pantheon of these ancient achetypes and
deities? I would think in some strong ways, Manannan Mac Lir...but I
think you may be referring to an even earlier cycle.
Wow...just reading your lovely messages is causing all kinds of
incredible visions to burst in my cranium! Thanks...I'm just beginning
to discover my Celtic roots...or it could be I'm possessed by one of
their deities. Either way, I am tremendously blessed.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
<<
Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature.
>>
As well as the Goddess of War, which I have just learned via Wikipedia:
"In Irish mythology, the Badb (crow, modern spelling Badhbh) was a
goddess of war who took the form of a crow, and was thus sometimes
known as Badb Catha (battle crow)."
Here is my take on Athena: my love for Greek Mythology is the closest
archetype I can summon that represents a gateway to the pan-pagan
world. And by pagan I mean to include the pre-patriarchal cyyles, when
the Earth Goddess reigned. (Of course, she always reigns; but we're
speaking of human spiritual evolution I believe, or at least that is
part of it.)
And I think that the Western World can more readily be introduced to
the Pagan Universe via their own Goddess who represents the brave and
powerful matriarchal tradition. Which tradition is being called forth
to heal this planet, now. And I am one of her strident messengers,
representing the sexual minority family worldwide. I will not be the
only one so empowered...and there will be similar rising up of other
leaders on issues like racism, women's rights, ecosystems, democracy,
fair trade, children, handicapped, etc., etc.
So I would like to thank you for the wonderful insight you've just
shared with me re. the Warrior-Goddess Badb! So how's this for a party
name:
The Party of Badb-Athena
This would then have Athena representing the end of a past-time
matriarchal cyble, with Badb perhaps stand at its birth portal.
In gratitude for your generous teaching, I give you full credit for
inspiring me to this fusion of Badb-Athena. Since the deities of
ancient Greece (and Egypt and various other past civilizations) already
give their major gods/goddesses various sub-manifestations representing
different aspects of their powers...hence, often use any one of their
numerous double-names to specify a particular sub-manifestation. This
seems to also have arisen pre-patriarchally, as it is a classicly
right-brain way of thinking. (Remember, the intuitive/creative sight is
born of the brain's right side...which neurons travel over to the left
parts of one's body...and that is why left-handed people are often
artists or creative in other ways.
Odin drank from the Fountain of Mir to gain Wisdom. The price for such
a profound gift was the loss of sight from his left eye! I had some
weird medical problems with my left eye, after Odin came to me in a
vision to enlighten me with my philosophy of opitmism I currently call
"NeoChristianity"...which was done as a joke...but since it truly
arises from pagan sources, I need to finally rename this ideology...for
you can simply append it to whatever belief system one is currently
following. (And now "neochristian" has become a term to mean those
nasty Xian Fundamentalists. So I *must change the name of my philosophy
pronto. Any ideas?
You may now read my newly entitled "The New Political Party of
Badb-Athena" here:
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_badb-athenians.htm
I replaced all words "athena/athenian" with "badb-athena/badb-
athenian", including file names. The only thing left to indicate the
original name as simply "athenians" is in the html title label. Your
elegant dialogue is right there, for all the world to see, that you are
given credit for this name-change.
--
Zeke Krahlin, founder Political Party of Badb-Athena
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_badb-athenians.htm
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
How about "The Party of Bada-bing-bada-bang Athena!"
Sorry, folk, that's just the trickster in me. ;)
--
Zeke Krahlin, founder Political Party of Badb-Athena
w/maganimous assistance by one "Azure" who maybe should
take over and run this whole show. Thanks, Azure!
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_badb-athenians.htm
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
The title "New Political Party of Athena" has now been expanded to
include the Pagan Community right there in the title:
"New Political Party of Badb-Athena"
To learn why "Badb", and who influenced this change, read about it
here:
Azure
American Aboriginal believed the "Insane" were touched by God, why we
use the term touched.
I have a force guiding me which I do not understand, "It IS' is about
all I can say.
Told me the teachings of the goat with 4 horns recently, ISAIAH 53, he
gets in a fight and has one of the horns broken off in its place grows a
third eye which speaks with a great voice.
Its a Metaphysical Teaching, U.S. did a study on the Phnom from what I
understand, also have a movie out on it I think it is Prophecy 2.
Anyway its about Nemesis and how it works.
Azure
Bel (Red Bull, Beast, Minator),
Lough (Salmon of Knowledge, JOVE, Jo Ve, ),
Nuada (Long Arm or Silver Arm, see Luke Skywalker),
Leaders of The Tautha De Dannan, Leprechauns, Elven or Faerie, Children
of the Underground or Heap.
The Legends are Gaelic Halic not Celtic as per Caesar.
Tribes of the Salt, the Tsins, Cin. (Vercingetorix, King of the Tribes
of the Mountains of Taurus)
Azure
chief-t...@gay-bible.org wrote:
>
> Azure wrote:
> <<
> Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature.
> >>
>
> As well as the Goddess of War, which I have just learned via Wikipedia:
>
> "In Irish mythology, the Badb (crow, modern spelling Badhbh) was a
> goddess of war who took the form of a crow, and was thus sometimes
> known as Badb Catha (battle crow)."
RAVEN, Shapeshifters
Fine except they gave the teachings of the ELPH, the EEK or Great
Terrible Unknown, that which is was and forever shall be
"THE ONE", the nameless force which is.
Gaia like Isis was a human and the teachings like Egypt are a family
tree.
Understand the ancient teachings D'Elph es Levi.
Shapeshifters Billy Goats with Tits, Transsexuals, those born of Seth
the 3rd Son, born in the Image of Adam before the separation.
Isaiah 54
Azure
Now I understand you, but don't start from scratch then your just
reaching.
"SETHIANS" teachings of SETH the 3rd Son, Gen 2:5-11, Gen 4 last 2
Verses.
Sethians have a long history.
Azure
chief-t...@gay-bible.org wrote:
> The way I use my words, my type of humor: does this match any of the
> personalities among the pantheon of these ancient achetypes and
> deities?
I went around this part of your question the other day sorry.
If you are having the visions you describe, then as you say there should
be a prankster around somewhere.
Has a strange sense of humor at times, and does things to get you
attention.
Kind of like a child when you ignore them might even walk up and smack
you in the head screaming "Play With Me" type thing.
Its like a child because it is Phata.
Try to understand the teachings in the thought.
No matter how old we see the earth, or space life, mankind, what ever
God is but a child still growing.
God being "ALL THINGS" is best represented by the deformed child, Think
about it.
But, Phata, is part of the Family Tree therefore he was human.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
questions, Azure! Rather than answer each reply in a seperate msg.,
I'll do it all in one, for brevity's sake.
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:13:49 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
> > in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant)
realms,
> >whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma;
>
>Wrong, they are very touched, Tribes of the Law, knew the teachings
>before Rome, Tsins are Romes Nemesis, the Gaelic, they are the
>Gailatians? hope thats right, don't have the Book infront of me.
When I say "essence" I mean the pure spirit of a people, a culture.
That can never be destroyed, this is Universal Law. It can only be
hidden or drastically marginalized for a while, as if destroyed.
And visions show me quite definitely, a brilliant essence like a
diamond's spark, that is the Pagan heart, stretching all the way back
to mankind's origin. My angels tell me that the pure Pagan spirit shall
reemerge in our time, to dispell the world's present evils. Such as
religious and scientific dogma, which former includes the majority of
self-proclaimed Christians, Catholics, and Muslims who have persecuted
paganism in all its myriad forms--and thus, human diversity.
But yes, on the surface, in human historcial accounts, of course they
have been broken and chained by Christian dogma for many centuries. But
those chains are about to break (if they haven't already; we're just
waiting for the ripples to arrive in our local area).
And that is what my visions show. I am aware of the long, drawn out and
brutal history of Xian persecution towards all native people and
non-Xians. And how, then, the cultures mingled, thus began the various
bloodlines that can be traced back to pre-Christian ancestors.
===
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:32:28 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>Now I understand you, but don't start from scratch then your just
>reaching.
>From my perspective, Azure, almost everything you tell me is highly
cryptic. Which I don't mind at all, as I'm highly motivated to research
the clues (once I figure out which things you said are clues), and
terminology and names of the early goddesses and heroines.
And when you tell me "don't start from scratch then your just
reaching", I really have no idea what you mean. But I will meditate on
what you have written, and do my research.
===
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:19:28 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
> BADB (Female, Leopard, Banshee),
Thanks for all the names; I'll learn more about each one, on my own.
===
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:44:45 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>I went around this part of your question the other day sorry.
Oh jeez, no, don't apologize! You've already put so much thought into
your messages, I could not resent your lack of response to any of my
questions! It is very gracious of you to share your wisdom with such
intensity.
>If you are having the visions you describe, then as you say there
should
>be a prankster around somewhere.
Yeps!
>Its like a child because it is Phata.
In web searches for "Phata" I get references to India, Africa, and the
Himalaya Mountains. It also seems to be a fairly popular first and/or
last name.
>Try to understand the teachings in the thought.
First I need to understand what the heck you're telling me! :b
>No matter how old we see the earth, or space life, mankind, what ever
>God is but a child still growing.
Now that's a beautiful way of putting it. Everything is always new,
just discovered.
>God being "ALL THINGS" is best represented by the deformed child,
Think
>about it.
Okay. God accepts even those that others would reject: the outcast, the
scapegoat, the queer, the deformed. God's love, unlike mankind, is
unconditional and boundless.
>But, Phata, is part of the Family Tree therefore he was human.
Can you provide any website reference to this "Phata", as the search
engines aren't doing a very good job. Thanks!
===
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:28:16 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>Fine except they gave the teachings of the ELPH, the EEK or Great
>Terrible Unknown, that which is was and forever shall be
>"THE ONE", the nameless force which is.
Well, I choose to call it "Great Wonderful Unknown"...for there is no
less of a reason to view this optimistically, than in terror. Why not
choose the optimistic (over the nihilistic) outlook, when the choice is
there? Just because there is a vast unknown out there, that dwarfs all
that is known--and forever will--does not ipso facto make it
"Terrible". "Great" yes, but terrible? Naw. It's wonderful for many
reasons, one of which is because the Great Unknown is the canvas upon
which life unfolds. Without this canvase, there'd be no life!
>Gaia like Isis was a human and the teachings like Egypt are a family
>tree.
Okay. And I'm searching for sites relating to this.
>Understand the ancient teachings D'Elph es Levi.
Search engines comes up blank, on "D'Elph es Levi". Help! I will
meditate upon that phrase, and see if I get results.
>Shapeshifters Billy Goats with Tits, Transsexuals, those born of Seth
>the 3rd Son, born in the Image of Adam before the separation.
>Isaiah 54
Very interesting. I also see "angels" as capable of creating newborn
life...not through womb but through magic. Gathering in a circle for
some sort of very special meditation, which eventually gives birth to a
new being in the circle's center. It may even be a large egg, from
which this being will eventually hatch.
So...this would be creation before (and/or above and/or outside of)
heterosexuality, or even sexuality. There is still creation, without
it; every bit as much as with it...perhaps even a bit more.
===
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:03:50 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>American Aboriginal believed the "Insane" were touched by God, why we
>use the term touched.
And I believe they have been correct all along. One of my important
missions is to alert the world that many whom we've labeled (and
shunned) as schizophrenics are actually shamans-to-be. Unlocking their
shamanic gifts is achieved by treating them with respect and making
their lives as happy as possible, by adapting it as best as one can, to
what THEIR aspirations are, not yours.
But with or w/o compassion from the healing profession, or any one else
for that matter, we (schizophrenics) are awakening on our own...and
some of us (such as myself) now realize our calling, including
specifics.
And in so awakening, I'm discovering all this tremendous Celtic and
pre-Celtic British Isles stuff. And it's only growing stronger over the
months and years...as if it's more than my own attraction to their
cultures, but a destiny coming from a seperate source, which is to
guide me like a teacher or general.
>I have a force guiding me which I do not understand, "It IS' is about
>all I can say.
I hear that! Did this force come to you AFTER you acquired some of your
first knowledge of ancient matriarchal beilefs? Of was this force with
you since birth or childhood?
>Told me the teachings of the goat with 4 horns recently, ISAIAH 53, he
>gets in a fight and has one of the horns broken off in its place grows
a
>third eye which speaks with a great voice.
The ability to change part of one's party implies the ability to
control one's appearance and makeup down to the cellular, or even
molecular, level. When your mind is essentially in communique with
every single cell in your body, you can then work as a team, and change
your form, either partly or in whole. This is just a scientific
description of what I'd also call magic.
>Its a Metaphysical Teaching, U.S. did a study on the Phnom from what I
>understand, also have a movie out on it I think it is Prophecy 2.
>Anyway its about Nemesis and how it works.
Is Phom a reference to Cambodia? My soulmate Randolph, is a Vietnam
Veteran, who's been missing or dead since 1993. But his spirit visits
me all the time, and has since almost we first met (so his being a
ghost does not mean he necessarily died; what it does mean, is I
understand only a very little of this).
Randolph's "ghost" tells me he got so empowered as a shaman, by living
among the hill people of Vietnam, and learning some of their shaman
ways. He said several hundred Nam Vets did this...and upon their return
to the states, formed a secret society that is very active but still
fully underground. They will emerge before the world, this year.
But that's just one of my many incredible visions...which I now believe
also are peeks into parallel universes. For some of these visions
reflect me as having different lives than I do now. These then, might
indicate parallel realities.
===
Anywayz, Azure, you've given me MUCH to think about and study! Thanks
immensely, even though right now most of what you've share is quite
cryptic to me. I'm sure as I learn more, the path will become less
confusing. I feel very much an origin with some very ancient tribe in
Northern Scotland...someone who belongs back with his true people. Yet
it is as if I also suffered almost complete amnesia, and am only now
beginning to reawaken to my true heritage, my true destiny, my true
reality.
Leouna
Lesbians are not gay.
shriven leper
Zeke Krahlin seems to be a new incarnation of the moron "Thracian"
who has posted to a.r.g. before. What a waste of bandwidth.
- sl -
Azure
chief-t...@gay-bible.org wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for your thoughtful replies to my msgs. and
> questions, Azure! Rather than answer each reply in a seperate msg.,
> I'll do it all in one, for brevity's sake.
>
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:13:49 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>
> > > in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant)
> realms,
> > >whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma;
> >
> >Wrong, they are very touched, Tribes of the Law, knew the teachings
> >before Rome, Tsins are Romes Nemesis, the Gaelic, they are the
> >Gailatians? hope thats right, don't have the Book infront of me.
>
> When I say "essence" I mean the pure spirit of a people, a culture.
So do I understand Thrace is 3 Gaul had 3 main Ports/Kingdoms;
Red Eye of the Ram, British Isles,
Arm Pit of the Goat Illyaria,
Horns of the Bull, the Gate it self, beyond which lies the Black Sea,
and Danube River.
> That can never be destroyed,
Tell them that, the attempted genocide and or replacement of those of
the Blood, has led to so much war and discord it is not funny.
Syriac War, Jacobite War, French Indian War, Irelands Rebellion,
Culladen Massacre, American Revolution, French Revolution, War of 1812,
but they keep on trying.
this is Universal Law.
That concept is something I am only beginning to thaw to.
Bears/Bar's are tribes of Law, Long Arms, Gendarmes are Law, Tains are
Law, Nemesis is Law, Paris is Law, Karma, Justice, Judgment, whatever.
It can only be
> hidden or drastically marginalized for a while, as if destroyed.
Heavy Metal, Tara.
>
> And visions show me quite definitely, a brilliant essence like a
> diamond's spark, that is the Pagan heart, stretching all the way back to mankind's origin.
A more interesting sight that the others, I have seen the Cave Bear, the
Circle, and the Heap, Hylic are tribes of Salt, those who drank of the
milk of the Ass, Gypsies from the beginning.
Scythian Horse Tribes, Eponim.
Egypt was building Pyramids, Scythians were building Gypsy Caravan
Carts.
Did not believe in written words Nature tells their story.
My angels tell me that the pure Pagan spirit shall
> reemerge in our time, to dispell the world's present evils. Such as
> religious and scientific dogma, which former includes the majority of
> self-proclaimed Christians, Catholics, and Muslims who have persecuted
> paganism in all its myriad forms--and thus, human diversity.
Right, Anti Christ teachings say the Anti Christ is of the Greek
Persuasion, Greek Orthodox is the Anti Church, Antioch.
Anti Pater, Anti Church Anti Maasiah.
>
> But yes, on the surface, in human historcial accounts, of course they
> have been broken and chained by Christian dogma for many centuries.
Check out Vercingetorix, then dig a little, Atilla is from that house,
Rome made the Tsins of the Hun the Demons.
But
> those chains are about to break (if they haven't already; we're just
> waiting for the ripples to arrive in our local area).
They started a long time ago for me. Trying to keep them from getting
out of control. Sword of Light is a metaphysical teaching about using
the flow of energy around you, to understand it is to become part of the
circuit, to become part of the circuit and have someone tamper with the
energy flow of the circuit afterwards just because they think its fun,
causes problems.
Your full of it, there is no such thing as the energy, shock me prove it
exists.
It does not work that way, and no one is ever supposed to try.
But they do.
Come on Prove it shock me, God does not exist he wont slap my teeth out.
People are screwed up looking at life backwards, just because they look
through the glass does not mean they are inside the house, but you can't
tell them that.
>
> And that is what my visions show. I am aware of the long, drawn out and
> brutal history of Xian persecution towards all native people and
> non-Xians. And how, then, the cultures mingled, thus began the various
> bloodlines that can be traced back to pre-Christian ancestors.
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:32:28 -0900, Azure <ta...@faerie.org> wrote:
>
> >Now I understand you, but don't start from scratch then your just reaching.
>
Was a family Tree same as Egypt, were Egyptians, driven out after
Ackhnotin, Midions after that, then Helains, then Faerie.
Cornwall did go Giant Hunting, and the Templar's did destroy Tara
looking for the artifacts.
Azure
Transsexuals are not either.
Further Transvestites have a tendency to be straight.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
> Lesbians are not gay.
Chill out, byatch.
--
As those smarmy little wrist-flicking newsgroup
fudge packers love to say: "Toodles!"
Zeke Krahlin, Jehovah's Queer Witness
http://www.gay-bible.org
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
> Leouna wrote:
> > Lesbians are not gay.
> Transsexuals are not either.
> Further Transvestites have a tendency to be straight.
Here, here! Let's hear it from homophobia in all stripes and colors,
even among our own diverse rainbow! Wow, you may go down in history,
but you'll never do down on me! Go right ahead, join the heteros as
they escort you into the gas chambers. Don't let me slow your journey!
Here's a pair of roller skates: they're on me!
angelicusrex
<chief-t...@gay-bible.org> wrote in message
Nothing of importance. Why don't you just stick to your other groups and
drop alt.religion.angels from your headers? You old drama queen.
Your fake religion and your twisting of gay-rights is a smear on decent gay
and lesbian folk everywhere.
AngelicusRex
angelicusrex
> Here, here! Let's hear it from homophobia in all stripes and colors,
> even among our own diverse rainbow! Wow, you may go down in history,
> but you'll never do down on me! Go right ahead, join the heteros as
> they escort you into the gas chambers. Don't let me slow your journey!
> Here's a pair of roller skates: they're on me!
Boy what a chip on her shoulder this old queen has! He just dissed the one
person he's been giving virtual head to for weeks. I thought you were in
LOVE with Azure, Queen of the North Pole? Boy that relationship sure cooled
off fast. You do realize your Gay Political Party of Athena just lost its
one and only member? The one you claimed should be running it? Just because
he/she said that transvestites (i.e. cross-dressers) are usually straight?
Azure tells a lot of lies and bullshits all over the place, but in this one
instance he/she is correct. Transvestites are often just straight men who
like to dress as women. I'm glad to know though that the more Fundamentalist
you become in your Gay Religion, the more members you toss out by proxy,
until there is only you left.
Good riddance to bad garbage my momma always said.
AngelicusRex
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
<<
So do I understand Thrace is 3 Gaul had 3 main Ports/Kingdoms;
Red Eye of the Ram, British Isles, Arm Pit of the Goat Illyaria,
Horns of the Bull, the Gate it self, beyond which lies the Black
Sea,and Danube River.
>>
Okay, this is all over my head right now. Interesting images though: a
goat's armpit? How cute.
<<
That concept is something I am only beginning to thaw to.
Bears/Bar's are tribes of Law, Long Arms, Gendarmes are Law, Tains are
Law, Nemesis is Law, Paris is Law, Karma, Justice, Judgment, whatever.
>>
They certainly seem to be very active, these days!
<<
A more interesting sight that the others, I have seen the Cave Bear,
the Circle, and the Heap, Hylic are tribes of Salt, those who drank of
the milk of the Ass, Gypsies from the beginning. Scythian Horse Tribes,
Eponim.
>>
You gave me lots of visions and terms to research. Thanks again, Azure!
<<
Right, Anti Christ teachings say the Anti Christ is of the Greek
Persuasion, Greek Orthodox is the Anti Church, Antioch.
Anti Pater, Anti Church Anti Maasiah.
>>
I don't know about all that. You're much better versed in particulars,
than myself.
<<
Check out Vercingetorix,
>>
>From Wikipedia:
"Vercingetorix (72 BC - 46 BC), chieftain of the Arverni, led the great
Gallic revolt against the Romans in 53-52 BC. His name in Gaulish means
"over-king" (ver-rix) of warriors (cingetos)."
<<
then dig a little, Atilla is from that house, Rome made the Tsins of
the Hun the Demons.
>>
Yes, the history is quite different from either side. I'm sure a great
wealth of lore awaits out discovery, as the long arm of Rome--which is
Amerika and The Vatican in these times--withers away and drops to the
ground like a diseased oak limb.
<<
They started a long time ago for me. Trying to keep them from getting
out of control. Sword of Light is a metaphysical teaching about using
the flow of energy around you, to understand it is to become part of
the circuit, to become part of the circuit
>>
That explains my original visons back in 1985...a circle of angelic
beings surrounded our globe, with joined hands. I numbered among them,
and they declared me the new leader of a particular mission. They told
me I'd network with kindred souls around the world, eventually. Lo and
behold, along comes the Internet almost a decade later.
<<
and have someone tamper with the energy flow of the circuit afterwards
just because they think its fun, causes problems.
Your full of it, there is no such thing as the energy, shock me prove
it exists. It does not work that way, and no one is ever supposed to
try.
>>
I understand perfectly. Myself, I never request "proof"...I respect
this power too much...it is intended as a gift, not a curse. Sometimes
when I stumble, I beg for a sign...and sure enough it comes! And I now
realize sings of encouragement will always come my way, whether or not
I plead.
<<
People are screwed up looking at life backwards, just because they look
through the glass does not mean they are inside the house, but you
can't tell them that.
>>
It is part of my mission to open this door to others...but you're quite
right, Azure. As the saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water, but
you can't make him drink."
However, it is my responsibility to share my wisdom w/others who will
listen, at least in a small part. And often, that's all I can do; so
many closed minds! I often wind up being threatened, just for having an
opinion.
I'd have to conclude we're both part of this circle now, this
network...and we were meant to meet. And the network will rapdily grow
as we connect more and more, with kindred souls, to form a protective
psychic web across our sad planet.
I'm having visions these days of psychically connected computer
terminals. What's up with that?
--
Zeke Krahlin, founder Political Party of Badb-Athena
w/magnanimous assistance by one "Azure" who maybe should
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
studies:
Home of Vercingetorix-A Celtic Refuge
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4934/rixmain.html
Looks to be a well-researched site, which I'll go through with a fine
toothed comb. I'll also post back other Celtic/Pagan sites I find
relevant to your elucidations, Azure.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
<<
Your fake religion and your twisting of gay-rights is a smear on decent
gay and lesbian folk everywhere.
>>
You who know NOTHING about gays, once more blathers on about how much
MORE you do not know.
Azure was testing me in a very Celtic manner: To see if once strangers
warm up to be friendly, would one of them remain silent when the other
makes a wrongful statement? A true Celt would never betray the truth
for the sake of keeping a friendship or ending loneliness. Besides:
true friends already live in truth.
My TRUE religion and my UNtwisting of homophobic distortions is a
shit-smear on the face of the Ugly Amerikan. Let's just hope it also
bears a plague...a hetero-only plague...or more specificaly, a
homo-hating-hetero-only plague, or HHHOP as the scientists will some
day call it. I'd gladly fling THAT kind of shit!
--
Pennsylvania Dutch Gay Jesus says:
"Throw the hetero over the fence some hay."
http://www.gay-bible.org
Baruch
> angelicusrex wrote:
> <<
> Your fake religion and your twisting of gay-rights is a smear on decent
> gay and lesbian folk everywhere.
>
>
> You who know NOTHING about gays, once more blathers on about how much
> MORE you do not know.
>
> Azure was testing me in a very Celtic manner: To see if once strangers
> warm up to be friendly, would one of them remain silent when the other
> makes a wrongful statement? A true Celt would never betray the truth
> for the sake of keeping a friendship or ending loneliness. Besides:
> true friends already live in truth.
>
> My TRUE religion and my UNtwisting of homophobic distortions is a
> shit-smear on the face of the Ugly Amerikan. Let's just hope it also
> bears a plague...a hetero-only plague...or more specificaly, a
> homo-hating-hetero-only plague, or HHHOP as the scientists will some
> day call it. I'd gladly fling THAT kind of shit!
>
angelicusrex
<chief-t...@gay-bible.org> wrote in message
> You who know NOTHING about gays,
I don't need to know anything "about" gays to know about YOU. Yours is not
a Gay religion. As there is no such thing. I know many Gays, they are not
anything like you.
> once more blathers on about how much
> MORE you do not know.
Giving an opinion is NOT blathering. Otherwise then you are blathering as
well, aren't you?
> Azure was testing me in a very Celtic manner:
No he wasn't. He is not any more Celtic than I am. In fact having a Celtic
heritage is not the same as being a Celt.
>A true Celt would never betray the truth
> for the sake of keeping a friendship or ending loneliness.
There is absolutely nothing about being a Celt that relates to how "they
deal with truth and friendship." People deal with these things as individual
people, not as races. Otherwise you are being a racist here, pretending that
Celts are somehow "better" than others. Or is it just Celtic Gays that are
better than other people?
> Besides:
> true friends already live in truth.
You are not true friends with Azure. In fact you called him names and told
him he was a homophobe. Is this how you deal with the truth? Is this how you
Celtically deal with "friends?"
> My TRUE religion and my UNtwisting of homophobic distortions is a
> shit-smear on the face of the Ugly Amerikan.
Whatever "reverend" I'm sure you'll have a lot of converts, whom you will
toss out of your church the moment they see you are out of your tiny little
mind.
> Let's just hope it also
> bears a plague...a hetero-only plague...or more specificaly, a
> homo-hating-hetero-only plague, or HHHOP as the scientists will some
> day call it. I'd gladly fling THAT kind of shit!
Sorry, but it looks like your other Egotistical Methamphetamine addicted Gay
pals, the ones who forgot to choose safe sex, have recently resurrected a
deadlier form of AIDS, one that only takes a few weeks to become full blown
and resists the known medications against it. If you follow the news, you
will know I am correct. And it is not me who said this, but the Health and
Welfare people. I would not like to see AIDS become a rampant killer again,
too many good people were lost, too many decent, loving and caring Gay men
and Hetero men and women, all thanks to dismal screw-ups like yourself who
WANT other people to die and care about no one but themselves. You should be
ashamed of what you just said about a plague. May that plague find its way
to YOUR home, reverend and may you fling no more shit at anyone. You and
your organization will be consumed by your own egotism and wretched madness.
Goodbye.
Plonk.
chief-t...@gay-bible.org
<<
I don't need to know anything "about" gays to know about YOU.
>>
That's what YOU think. But that's because YOU are ignorant. I gave up
TRYING to bring ignorant folks into the light. Even if I've managed to
break through almost EVERY barrier of prejudice, there's always that
impenetrable, final wall.
Homophobia.
<<
Yours is not a Gay religion. As there is no such thing. I know many
Gays, they are not anything like you.
>>
Well then, it's a good thing I started such a religion now, don't you
think so? Are you so stupid as to think I'd start a religion that
already exists? We sexual minorities have EVERY RIGHT to worship our
God is NON heterosexual. Just as Africans worships theirs as a Black
Jesus.
I feel VERY sorry for your hetero-ass-licking queer turncoat friends.
They're beyond pathetic: they're snitches for their hetero overlords.
<<
Giving an opinion is NOT blathering. Otherwise then you are blathering
as well, aren't you?
>>
There you go BLATHERING again.
<<
Sorry, but it looks like your other Egotistical Methamphetamine
addicted Gay pals, the ones who forgot to choose safe sex, have
recently resurrected a deadlier form of AIDS, one that only takes a few
weeks to become full blown and resists the known medications against
it.
>>
EXACTLY what the media want all you screwed-up ignorant heteros to
believe! That person is a FICTITIOUS creation by the government, to
scapegoat gay people for YOUR hetero sins too REPULSIVE and PERVERSE to
discuss in most newsgroups.
<<
You should be ashamed of what you just said about a plague.
>>
No I'm not...I'm very PROUD, 'cause it's the REAL TRUTH about MOST
heterosexuals! The BLAME gay people for all their own sins, and then
get all haughty and nasty whenever one of us chooses to speak out and
NOT shut up!
<<
May that plague find its way to YOUR home,
>>
My, my, in the same breath no less. Can you say "hypocrite"?
<<
You and your organization will be consumed by your own egotism and
wretched madness.
>>
How amusing. (EVERY homophobe is.)
<<
plonk.
>>
So like a hetero. Pooping in public. (Then blaming queers for spreading
diseases only a heterosexist society would create and inject into
homosexuals.)
You may not be WEARING the Swastika (yet), but you're doing everything
else reich!
--
"Many are called but few are chosen;
Step right up for your lederhosen."
- Big Gay Brother [ gay-bible.org ]
Azure
Hate Mongering Bigot.
Azure
Kewl I have a few I will dig up for you if your interested.
Sacred Band is great stuff if you haven't looked into it yet.
Azure
angelicusrex wrote:
>
> > Here, here! Let's hear it from homophobia in all stripes and colors,
> > even among our own diverse rainbow! Wow, you may go down in history,
> > but you'll never do down on me! Go right ahead, join the heteros as
> > they escort you into the gas chambers. Don't let me slow your journey!
> > Here's a pair of roller skates: they're on me!
Was my intention on the thought, separation only separates people, we
don't need more wedges.
>
> Boy what a chip on her shoulder this old queen has! He just dissed the one
> person he's been giving virtual head to for weeks.
He posted what 2 responses to me.
I thought you were in
> LOVE with Azure, Queen of the North Pole?
Baroness Dip Stick.
Baroness of the North Pole.
A Title granted for services rendered to the community.
Foundations for the community itself in Fairbanks.
Boy that relationship sure cooled
> off fast. You do realize your Gay Political Party of Athena just lost its
> one and only member? The one you claimed should be running it?
You do understand Badb and Athena are both Gaelic Teachings don't you.
Athenian Gaelic's believe in "Fighting" for their rights.
Lugh is Mars, God of War.
Badb is the Witch of War, the Banshee.
The Washer Woman got her name for Polishing and blessing the Armor of
the warriors before battle.
Just because
> he/she said that transvestites (i.e. cross-dressers) are usually straight?
> Azure tells a lot of lies and bullshits all over the place,
No you do.
but in this one instance he/she is correct. Transvestites are often just
straight men who
> like to dress as women. I'm glad to know though that the more Fundamentalist
> you become in your Gay Religion, the more members you toss out by proxy,
> until there is only you left.
>
> Good riddance to bad garbage my momma always said.
When she threw him out of the house.
> AngelicusRex
Azure
chief-t...@gay-bible.org wrote:
>
> angelicusrex wrote:
> <<
> Your fake religion and your twisting of gay-rights is a smear on decent
> gay and lesbian folk everywhere.
> >>
>
> You who know NOTHING about gays, once more blathers on about how much
> MORE you do not know.
>
> Azure was testing me in a very Celtic manner: To see if once strangers
> warm up to be friendly, would one of them remain silent when the other
> makes a wrongful statement? A true Celt would never betray the truth
> for the sake of keeping a friendship or ending loneliness. Besides:
> true friends already live in truth.
Understand I was trying to state that the person claiming lesbians are
not gay is forging wedges in the community, we do not need separation,
that's what they want.
One arrow can be broken, 20 in a bundle is a different story.
angelicusrex
"Azure" <l'd'sh...@faerie.org> wrote in message
news:423FD2C9...@faerie.org...
Only an insane psychotic personality could equate my stand on gay rights and
lesbian rights, which is liberal and extremely supportive as "hate mongering
bigotry!" I was putting down someone else's twisted religion which supports
hatred of all hetero people and seeks their demise (as does Azure's
religion), for being hateful and suddenly I am hateful and bigoted? Well I
am, hateful and bigoted of twisted psychotic religions that spew hate and
derision of ANYONE or ANY GROUP.
As far as I am concerned Azure is a transvestite Nazi pervert, an asexual
moron, incompetent religious preacher, and an illiterate bimbo. Luckily he
is neither a "race" nor a legitimate "creed" or a "religion" or a "culture.
He is just one, stupid person seeking attention for his wild eyed lunatic
ramblings. Thank God we Americans can still have an opinion about
INDIVIDUALS, otherwise we'd be drowning in political correctness.
For the record I could care less if you are gay or lesbian or some other
alternative lifestyle dweller, if you are on the lunatic fringe and full of
hatred for other people, then you are on my shit-list.
A.R. "The Internet Saint tm"
PURIEL
angelicusrex wrote:
>
> "Azure" <l'd'sh...@faerie.org> wrote in message
> news:423FD2C9...@faerie.org...
> >
> >
> > angelicusrex wrote:
> >>
> >> <chief-t...@gay-bible.org> wrote in message
> >>
> >> Nothing of importance. Why don't you just stick to your other groups and
> >> drop alt.religion.angels from your headers? You old drama queen.
> >>
> >> Your fake religion and your twisting of gay-rights is a smear on decent
> >> gay
> >> and lesbian folk everywhere.
> >>
> >> AngelicusRex
> >
> > Hate Mongering Bigot.
>
> Only an insane psychotic personality could equate my stand on gay rights and
> lesbian rights, which is liberal and extremely supportive as "hate mongering
Liar
Baruch
More lies... but it's no good, Azure. You try to make up stuff and to make
claims about who said things, but it's all in the archives. You might as
well stick to the truth.
The thing is, I'm not sure you have any idea what the truth is. You've
spent so much time living in fantasy, trying to force your own fantasies
onto reality, that I think you've lost track of what is real and what is
just your twisted imaginings.
--
Anything that is good and useful is made of chocolate.
angelicusrex
himself these days, is nothing more than a pathetic, tormented religious nut
who thinks he is something special to God, that is more special than the
rest of us. They say he lives in a fantasy world of his own devising and
always seeks for attention and confirmation about his beliefs. However,
these things will not be coming his way soon. because his crazy talk simply
is not understandable to anyone. He is really not worth even the effort I
take to flame him. He will always be this way, there is no stopping him and
yet his agenda will never be met. He is a nobody who is trying to
make-believe he is a somebody. Since I tend to believe my angels over anyone
else, all I can say is faretheewell to Mr. Azure.
--
Namaste'
Saint 0;-)
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
miracle.
The other is as if everything is."
Albert Einstein
Azure
Baruch
> And you say I'm Nuts.
>
you. I know a lot of nutty people, and I get along with most of them.
I like nutty people - they are interesting and refreshing, and keep me
from getting stuck in conventional thought patterns.
What I hold against you is that you are a nasty, vindictive, and
dishonest person. This I don't like, whether you're nuts or so-called
"normal". And normal people, like brownies and the wee folk, are imaginary.
Azure
So you believe we are a myth, I believe you are a liar.
The Bible say's I am right, you are a Hebrew who wants to Kill the
teachings and Blood of Abraham. Jer 11:19.
O'Shea's are choosen to lead, Numbers 13:16, JE is a mistranslation of
GI, asian also say it Y.
Hebrews are not the GI BRUIN's, the Bears or Brownies are diffrent than
you.
MYTHS do not show up fighting in the Collisieum.
Myth's do not "KICK ROMES ASS".
A pure "MYTH" has no proof.
Like Jesus.
Lugh left a sword, a Talking Statue, and a door.
Jer 35:4
Baruch, > wrote:
>
> Azure wrote:
> > And you say I'm Nuts.
> >
> Yes, he does. And so do I. But personally, I don't hold that against
> you. I know a lot of nutty people, and I get along with most of them.
> I like nutty people - they are interesting and refreshing, and keep me
> from getting stuck in conventional thought patterns.
>
> What I hold against you is that you are a nasty, vindictive, and
> dishonest person.
No you and Rex who think its ok to throw Viruses and Threaten to Murder
People are nasty vindictive people.
This I don't like, whether you're nuts or so-called
> "normal". And normal people, like brownies and the wee folk, are imaginary.
Only in your bigoted way of thinking.
Never met a Midget huh?
Never Met a Dwarf Huh?
Never met an Abnormally Tall Person huh?
Never met a Slow forgive me, Retarded person, huh?
All Myths HUH?
Murder such strange people at will right.
That is what the legends and I are talking about.
Magic, I believe in it also, but not black magic like you and Rex.
White Magic comes from with in.
There are real Psychics in the world, get used to it, evolution will
make a lot more.
Burning such people at the stake is the "Sin" and the Evil.
Baruch
> And I do not like you SKIN HEADED NEO NATZI ATTITUDE EITHER.
Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi". If
you recall, a neo-nazi came onto this newsgroup, and I attacked him even
more energetically than I have attacked you. Oh, and someone - maybe
this neo-nazi, maybe some other bigot - attacked gays, and I attacked
him as well. But of course, you choose not to see things like that. It
might interfere with your fantasies of me being a neo-nazi skinhead.
There is a saying, "None so blind as he who will not see", and that
applies to you. You don't care what the truth is, you simply ignore
anything that conflicts with your pathetic little dreams.
> So you believe we are a myth, I believe you are a liar.
There is no "we". You, Azure, are no myth. I don't spent my time
writing things to myths. I ignore myths. Therefore, I do not believe
that you are a myth.
> The Bible say's I am right, you are a Hebrew who wants to Kill the
> teachings and Blood of Abraham. Jer 11:19.
I *am* the Blood of Abraham. The Bible doesn't say that you're right.
The Bible, at any rate, is filled with bullshit, so much so that it is
impossible to distinguish what is good and useful, from what it utter
rubbish.
> O'Shea's are choosen to lead, Numbers 13:16, JE is a mistranslation of
> GI, asian also say it Y.
That was Joshua, whose name is mistranliterated in the King James
Version. The proper spelling would be "Hoshea", and not "Oshea". This
is the danger of relying on translations. They'll trip you up, every time.
Also, this was Hoshea ben-Nun. Unless your father's name is Nun, you're
just shit out of luck - it's not your name. Not to mention that it's a
first name, not a surname. But don't let the facts get in the way of
your pathetic little fantasy.
> Hebrews are not the GI BRUIN's, the Bears or Brownies are diffrent than
> you.
Yes, they are. Bears are animals. Brownies are fictitious creatures,
unless the word refers to proto-Girl Scouts.
> MYTHS do not show up fighting in the Collisieum.
True. But no brownie ever fought in the coliseum, either.
> Myth's do not "KICK ROMES ASS".
True. See above. Also, Rome is still going strong, so I wouldn't use
that as an example.
> A pure "MYTH" has no proof.
So - where's your "proof"? That's exactly the same question I've been
asking all along, but all you do is shriek that I'm attacking you and
never actually get around to showing what your evidence is. Wanker.
> Like Jesus.
What's not to like? It's his fan club I can't stand.
> Lugh left a sword, a Talking Statue, and a door.
OK. Show me the sword, the talking statue, or the door.
> Jer 35:4
Bh. Gita 2:8.
>
> Baruch, > wrote:
>
>>Azure wrote:
>>
>>>And you say I'm Nuts.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, he does. And so do I. But personally, I don't hold that against
>>you. I know a lot of nutty people, and I get along with most of them.
>>I like nutty people - they are interesting and refreshing, and keep me
>>from getting stuck in conventional thought patterns.
>>
>>What I hold against you is that you are a nasty, vindictive, and
>>dishonest person.
>
>
> No you and Rex who think its ok to throw Viruses and Threaten to Murder
> People are nasty vindictive people.
>
Well, I've repeatedly told you that neither Saint nor I ever did that,
and you have insisted, without showing a shred of evidence, that we
have. You are not only wrong, you are willfully lying. You don't know
what you're talking about, and you knowingly claim otherwise. That is
lying.
> This I don't like, whether you're nuts or so-called
>
>>"normal". And normal people, like brownies and the wee folk, are imaginary.
>
>
> Only in your bigoted way of thinking.
No, in any way of thinking that relies on evidence.
> Never met a Midget huh?
This is not a brownie.
> Never Met a Dwarf Huh?
Neither is this.
> Never met an Abnormally Tall Person huh?
And, neither is this. Nor is he a giant, as described in any literature.
> Never met a Slow forgive me, Retarded person, huh?
Oh, believe me, I've met plenty.
> All Myths HUH?
No. However, none of these supports anything you have claimed. For
example, a person who is intellectually challenged is not a "wee folk",
nor is he a giant, a brownie, or anything else.
A tall person may be *called* a giant, but in general he is just
unusually tall. His height is not usually passed down to his children.
In other words, such a person isn't of a race of unusually tall people
(though is family may be taller, on average, than ordinary folks).
Similarly with short people - often it is a nutritional or endocrine
problem, not genetic.
> Murder such strange people at will right.
I have never once, in anything I have written, advocated, condoned, or
otherwise supported murder. Not once, anywhere. In fact, I have never
advocated any sort of violence against anyone. Not once, anywhere. I
have never even wished you any harm, nor threatened you with any. You
won't find a single instance of me saying anything like that, nor
condoning it.
The only time I feel it is acceptable to use force is when under attack,
when there is a direct threat of harm or death - and then, only when
less-extreme measures wouldn't stop the attack. I have said this on
many occasions.
You are making stuff up again, lying as you always have about me.
> That is what the legends and I are talking about.
No, you are talking about bullshit, stuff you made up in your twisted
little mind, and want people to accept without explanation or evidence.
> Magic, I believe in it also, but not black magic like you and Rex.
What "black magic" do you think I've done? Name it, or be known for the
malignant liar you are. You know nothing of my doings, and you have no
justification for making this claim. It is false and malicious.
You, however, have publicly admitted here to performing a black magic
ritual. You burned black candles, with the intent to do Saint and me
harm. That is black magic. Any sort of ritual in which you intend to
do harm, is "black". Black candles are burned for the destruction of
the target, and for no other reason (at least, in magic).
Far from me being the black magician, it is you who try these pathetic
rituals because you can't explain yourself and your idiotic claims.
> White Magic comes from with in.
Whatever.
> There are real Psychics in the world, get used to it, evolution will
> make a lot more.
Yes, I know this. I'm one of them, you nattering nabob. Get used to it.
> Burning such people at the stake is the "Sin" and the Evil.
>
And your point? I don't burn people at the stake, nor do I condone it,
nor do I recommend it. I condemn it. So what?
Azure
Baruch, > wrote:
>
> Azure wrote:
> > And I do not like you SKIN HEADED NEO NATZI ATTITUDE EITHER.
>
> Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
Good because I don't care what you like or dislike, so get out of my
face.
> My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi".
Liar
Baruch
|>
|>
|>Baruch, > wrote:
|>>
|>> Azure wrote:
|>> > And I do not like you SKIN HEADED NEO NATZI ATTITUDE EITHER.
|>>
|>> Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
|>
|>Good because I don't care what you like or dislike, so get out of my
|>face.
|>
Oh, no, Azure. That's now how it works. You have to ask me,
*nicely*, to please stop attacking you. And you have to stop
attacking me, stop arguing with me, and keep that way. And then, if
I'm in a good mood, I *will* stop.
But being rude to me like this isn't going to do it. Telling me to
shut the fuck up, won't work. Telling me to get out of your face,
won't work. You have to ask me *nicely*.
|>> My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi".
|>
|>Liar
It's the truth. I do not espouse any sort of nazi or neo-nazi
philosophy. In fact, when someone came here to spew nazi propaganda,
I attacked him. The archives speak for themselves. No "neo-nazi"
leanings from me.
Maybe you've got me mixed up with someone else...
Azure
Baruch wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:09:13 -0800, Azure <l'd'sh...@faerie.org> wrote:
>
> |>
> |>
> |>Baruch, > wrote:
> |>>
> |>> Azure wrote:
> |>> > And I do not like you SKIN HEADED NEO NATZI ATTITUDE EITHER.
> |>>
> |>> Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
> |>
> |>Good because I don't care what you like or dislike, so get out of my
> |>face.
> |>
> Oh, no, Azure. That's now how it works.
Yes it is, you started it I will finish IT.
With THE LAST WORD.
YOU WILL UNDERSTAND by the time its all done.
Balls to the Wall.
You have to ask me,
NO
> *nicely*, to please stop attacking you.
No, you have to ask me, I am the Werewolf, and if you don't I will eat
your Kah, I AM HUNGRY.
And you have to stop
NO you do, Word of God stops for NO MAN.
> attacking me, stop arguing with me, and keep that way.
Not until you do.
And then, if
> I'm in a good mood, I *will* stop.
I need the rage you feed me, Antagonise taught how to gain the energy I
need from arguing with people like you.
But Mystics are Liars.
> But being rude to me like this isn't going to do it.
pOT CALLS THE kettle bLACK.
Telling me to
> shut the fuck up, won't work.
YOU STARTED IT.
Telling me to get out of your face,
> won't work. You have to ask me *nicely*.
No, I like having you argue with me, I am hungry.
>
> |>> My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi".
> |>
> |>Liar
>
> It's the truth.
I do not espouse any sort of nazi or neo-nazi
> philosophy.
Yes you do, attack everyone, destroy people for their beliefs, HITLER
did that, REMEMBER!
> Maybe you've got me mixed up with someone else...
No, you are the Bigoted, Hate Mongering Neo Nazi, Godless Heb., who
wants to attack the HOUSE of ABRAHAM.
Baruch
>
> Baruch wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:09:13 -0800, Azure <l'd'sh...@faerie.org> wrote:
>>
>>|>
>>|>
>>|>Baruch, > wrote:
>>|>>
>>|>> Azure wrote:
>>|>> > And I do not like you SKIN HEADED NEO NATZI ATTITUDE EITHER.
>>|>>
>>|>> Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
>>|>
>>|>Good because I don't care what you like or dislike, so get out of my
>>|>face.
>>|>
>>Oh, no, Azure. That's now how it works.
>
> Yes it is, you started it I will finish IT.
Show me, don't tell me. We'll see who finishes what.
> With THE LAST WORD.
OK. I'm waiting.
> YOU WILL UNDERSTAND by the time its all done.
I already understand.
> Balls to the Wall.
>
Really? So far, I haven't even worked up a sweat. Don't forget - I
type 90 words a minute, so for me it's no big deal to crank out a dozen
pages.
> You have to ask me,
>
> NO
>
OK. No problem...
>
>>*nicely*, to please stop attacking you.
>
>
> No, you have to ask me, I am the Werewolf, and if you don't I will eat
> your Kah, I AM HUNGRY.
>
Now Azure, this is the sort of thing that your keepers don't want to
hear from you. It makes them nervous. They can't turn you loose as
long as you're saying stuff like that. They'll be afraid you'll hurt
someone - most likely yourself.
You have no power over me, Azure. You are nothing more than some dweeb
in Alaska, hunting and pecking his hour upon the stage, until he is
heard no more... it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing (I borrowed heavily from Shakespeare).
> And you have to stop
>
> NO you do, Word of God stops for NO MAN.
>
Maybe not, but what you've got is nothing more than the word of not
taking your meds.
>
>>attacking me, stop arguing with me, and keep that way.
>
>
> Not until you do.
>
OK, then I guess we'll just keep going then...
>
> And then, if
>
>>I'm in a good mood, I *will* stop.
>
>
> I need the rage you feed me, Antagonise taught how to gain the energy I
> need from arguing with people like you.
Yes, that's called being a Berserker. These were Norsemen who worked
themselves up into a killing rage before going into battle. The upside
was that they were so crazed, they couldn't feel pain or fear. The
downside is that they couldn't maintain that rage. When it was over,
they felt all the pain, as well as the enormous depression that comes
from the abuse of any drug (and adrenaline is a drug). I used to do
this quite a bit myself, but the high never was as good as the low was bad.
Now it's your turn to find this out.
> But Mystics are Liars.
>
Oh, no, I never said that. I said *you* were a liar, not mystics. I'm
a mystic. You are not a mystic. You are nothing but a pathetic little
wanker trying to sound important and powerful by raging about being a
werewolf eating people's Ka, things like that. How silly...
>
>>But being rude to me like this isn't going to do it.
>
>
> pOT CALLS THE kettle bLACK.
>
I wasn't calling you anything, I was explaining that only courtesy is
going to (possibly) get me to shut up.
> Telling me to
>
>>shut the fuck up, won't work.
>
>
> YOU STARTED IT.
>
Well, we seem to have a difference of opinion on that point, but the
archives support my position. Nevertheless, I'm not talking about
starting it, I'm talking about ending it. That's entirely up to you,
and it requires you to be polite.
> Telling me to get out of your face,
>
>>won't work. You have to ask me *nicely*.
>
>
> No, I like having you argue with me, I am hungry.
>
If you're hungry, it's best if you go eat something. Arguing with me
may kill your appetite for a while, but it's not going to fill your belly.
>
>>|>> My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi".
>>|>
>>|>Liar
>>
>>It's the truth.
>
No, it's not. It's a lie you keep saying, because you don't like what I
say to you, and you have nothing better to answer with besides
name-calling. But of course, that's what got you into this situation to
begin with. Name calling.
>
>
> I do not espouse any sort of nazi or neo-nazi
>
>>philosophy.
>
>
> Yes you do, attack everyone, destroy people for their beliefs, HITLER
> did that, REMEMBER!
>
But I *don't* attack everyone. I only attack bigots, such as the
neo-nazi I went after, some nasty Fundamentalists who express bigoted
sentiments, and of course, you. I leave all the other posters alone, or
else I talk nice to them.
>
>
>>Maybe you've got me mixed up with someone else...
>
>
> No, you are the Bigoted, Hate Mongering Neo Nazi, Godless Heb., who
> wants to attack the HOUSE of ABRAHAM.
Sorry, Azure. I *am* the House of Abraham. And I don't monger any
hate, believe in God, and am not a Hebrew (I am a Jew, though). You're
wrong on every count in this one. You just can't get it right, can you?
Azure
Baruch, > wrote:
>
> >>|>> Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
> >>|>
> >>|>Good because I don't care what you like or dislike, so get out of my
> >>|>face.
> >>|>
> >>Oh, no, Azure. That's now how it works.
> >
> > Yes it is, you started it I will finish IT.
>
> Show me, don't tell me. We'll see who finishes what.
>
> > With THE LAST WORD.
>
> OK. I'm waiting.
>
> > YOU WILL UNDERSTAND by the time its all done.
>
> I already understand.
No I have 7 years to prove what I say, so hold your breath.
> > Balls to the Wall.
Ginip Gonop
> >
> Really? So far, I haven't even worked up a sweat. Don't forget - I
> type 90 words a minute, so for me it's no big deal to crank out a dozen
> pages.
Keep typing but you have a long distance typeathone ahead.
>
>
> > You have to ask me,
> >
> > NO
> >
> OK. No problem...
> >
> >>*nicely*, to please stop attacking you.
> >
> >
> > No, you have to ask me, I am the Werewolf, and if you don't I will eat
> > your Kah, I AM HUNGRY.
> >
> Now Azure, this is the sort of thing that your keepers don't want to
> hear from you.
Thing I don't Want to hear from me.
But the Social Misfit with a Keeper is you.
It makes them nervous. They can't turn you loose as
> long as you're saying stuff like that.
Fear, I run the streets.
They'll be afraid you'll hurt someone - most likely yourself.
Nah, legends say Nations tremble when the Goat goes off.
>
> You have no power over me, Azure.
NO, but GOD DOES.
You are nothing more than some dweeb
You are a Hebrew God Hater.
> in Alaska, hunting and pecking his hour upon the stage, until he is
> heard no more... it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
> signifying nothing (I borrowed heavily from Shakespeare).
Plagiarist.
>
> > And you have to stop
No, God said you do.
> >
> > NO you do, Word of God stops for NO MAN.
> >
> Maybe not, but what you've got is nothing more than the word of not
> taking your meds.
You are the Social Misfit who thinks it is fun to insult people for
their beliefs.
> >
> >>attacking me, stop arguing with me, and keep that way.
> >
> >
> > Not until you do.
> >
> OK, then I guess we'll just keep going then...
Yep, I got 7 Years.
> >
> > And then, if
> >
> >>I'm in a good mood, I *will* stop.
NO, by then YOU Will Understand.
> >
> >
> > I need the rage you feed me, Antagonise taught how to gain the energy I
> > need from arguing with people like you.
>
> Yes, that's called being a Berserker. These were Norsemen who worked
> themselves up into a killing rage before going into battle.
Right, Bar Har, Bruin Gi, BEARS.
YOU GUESSED IT.
The upside
> was that they were so crazed, they couldn't feel pain or fear. The
> downside is that they couldn't maintain that rage. When it was over,
> they felt all the pain, as well as the enormous depression that comes
> from the abuse of any drug (and adrenaline is a drug). I used to do
> this quite a bit myself, but the high never was as good as the low was bad.
>
> Now it's your turn to find this out.
You never used the force of the Bears, you never heard of it before me,
and do not understand the truth of the teachings.
A man can only take just so much then they break.
Force them to keep going anyway.
Then the second wind comes.
Justice FLOWS, can't be stopped.
You are on the wrong end of a loosing Battle.
>
> > But Mystics are Liars.
> >
> Oh, no, I never said that.
Yes you did, maybe not in so many words but exactly what you mean.
I said *you* were a liar, not mystics.
So I say you are a Liar.
I'm
> a mystic.
You have no idea.
You are not a mystic.
Right so you say.
You are nothing but a pathetic little
> wanker trying to sound important and powerful by raging about being a
> werewolf eating people's Ka, things like that. How silly...
Midien Teaching.
Silly is finding myself as Gi Saece, the 3rd Gi, sitting around even
taking the time to respond to a Neo Nazi Hebrew God Hater.
> >
> >>But being rude to me like this isn't going to do it.
> >
> >
> > pOT CALLS THE kettle bLACK.
> >
> I wasn't calling you anything,
Then take your fingers off the keyboard and read what you wrote, cause
you did.
I was explaining
Fuck You, you were insulting, there is no explanation in your words just
rantings of a Neo Nazi, Hebrew God Hater.
that only courtesy is
> going to (possibly) get me to shut up.
>
> > Telling me to
> >
> >>shut the fuck up, won't work.
> >
> >
> > YOU STARTED IT.
> >
> Well, we seem to have a difference of opinion on that point,
Sure DO.
but the
> archives support my position.
No they don't they support mine, you have done nothing but insult me at
every post.
Nevertheless, I'm not talking about
> starting it, I'm talking about ending it. That's entirely up to you,
> and it requires you to be polite.
No it requires YOU to be POLITE, GOD HATER.
>
> > Telling me to get out of your face,
> >
> >>won't work. You have to ask me *nicely*.
No, I like having you argue with me, I am hungry.
> >
> If you're hungry, it's best if you go eat something.
I AM.
Arguing with me
> may kill your appetite for a while, but it's not going to fill your belly.
Not my Stomach I want to Fill, I need the energy.
PSI PIE.
> >
> >>|>> My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi".
> >>|>
Liar
It's the truth.
> >
> No, it's not.
Yes it is the Truth, Neo Nazi God Hater, who wants to try to shatter
peoples beliefs.
you don't like what I
> say to you, and you have nothing better to answer with besides
> name-calling.
That's your side of it, but you called me names first.
But of course, that's what got you into this situation to
> begin with. Name calling.
Right you called me names I responded.
> >
> >
> > I do not espouse any sort of nazi or neo-nazi
> >
> >>philosophy.
> >
> >
> > Yes you do, attack everyone, destroy people for their beliefs, HITLER
> > did that, REMEMBER!
> >
> But I *don't* attack everyone.
of course, you.
Liar there is a list of a considerable amount of people you talk to just
like you do to me. That being anyone with any belief.
As Long as they are a God Hater, you can be friends with them.
Other than that your a Neo Nazi Bigot Hebrew who Hates God.
> >
> >>Maybe you've got me mixed up with someone else...
>
> Sorry, Azure. I *am* the House of Abraham.
Liar
You are a Bigoted, Hate Mongering Neo Nazi, Godless Heb., who wants to
Baruch
> Ginip Gonop.
>
Uh, right... same back atcha...
>
> Baruch, > wrote:
>
>> >>|>> Fortunately for me, I don't actually care what you like or don't like.
>>
>>>>|>
>>>>|>Good because I don't care what you like or dislike, so get out of my
>>>>|>face.
>>>>|>
>>>>Oh, no, Azure. That's now how it works.
>>>
>>>Yes it is, you started it I will finish IT.
>>
>>Show me, don't tell me. We'll see who finishes what.
>>
>>
>>>With THE LAST WORD.
>>
>>OK. I'm waiting.
>>
>>
>>>YOU WILL UNDERSTAND by the time its all done.
>>
>>I already understand.
>
>
> No I have 7 years to prove what I say, so hold your breath.
>
>
>>>Balls to the Wall.
>
>
> Ginip Gonop
>
>
>>Really? So far, I haven't even worked up a sweat. Don't forget - I
>>type 90 words a minute, so for me it's no big deal to crank out a dozen
>>pages.
>
>
> Keep typing but you have a long distance typeathone ahead.
>
>>
>>>You have to ask me,
>>>
>>>NO
>>>
>>
>>OK. No problem...
>>
>>>>*nicely*, to please stop attacking you.
>>>
>>>
>>>No, you have to ask me, I am the Werewolf, and if you don't I will eat
>>>your Kah, I AM HUNGRY.
>>>
>>
>>Now Azure, this is the sort of thing that your keepers don't want to
>>hear from you.
>
>
>
> Thing I don't Want to hear from me.
Well, tell yourself to stop saying those things...
> But the Social Misfit with a Keeper is you.
Right. This is the best you can come up with?
>
> It makes them nervous. They can't turn you loose as
>
>>long as you're saying stuff like that.
>
>
> Fear, I run the streets.
>
No doubt. But you run the streets in Alaska, and I'm in Chicago, so I
don't think I have much to worry about just yet. I won't start to worry
until you're in town... but even then, I won't worry too much. There
are many things about me that you don't know.
> They'll be afraid you'll hurt someone - most likely yourself.
> Nah, legends say Nations tremble when the Goat goes off.
>
Maybe that's what your fictitious, imaginary legends say, but no country
is going to even *know* when the Goat goes off. And you're not a goat.
>>You have no power over me, Azure.
>
>
> NO, but GOD DOES.
>
True. However, He doesn't agree with you, that I must be instantly
destroyed.
> You are nothing more than some dweeb
>
> You are a Hebrew God Hater.
>
Wrong on both counts. I am not a Hebrew, and I love God.
>
>>in Alaska, hunting and pecking his hour upon the stage, until he is
>>heard no more... it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
>>signifying nothing (I borrowed heavily from Shakespeare).
>
>
> Plagiarist.
>
plagiarist
n : someone who uses another person's words or ideas as if they were his
own.
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=plagiarist)
Sorry, but it doesn't fit. Since I clearly stated that the words were
*not* my own, but Shakespeare's, it was not plagiarism.
BTW, you must be having someone help you, since you actually knew an
English word, and spelled it correctly.
>>>And you have to stop
>
>
> No, God said you do.
>
God said no such thing. Maybe your imaginary, invisible friend said
that, but it's not God, and it's lying to you.
>
>>>NO you do, Word of God stops for NO MAN.
>>>
>>
>>Maybe not, but what you've got is nothing more than the word of not
>>taking your meds.
>
>
> You are the Social Misfit who thinks it is fun to insult people for
> their beliefs.
>
Well, no, as I've said before. I insult you for your rudeness and
nastiness, not for your idiotic beliefs. I simply use your foolish
beliefs against you, but do not ridicule you *because* of it. I would
have been content to let you natter on undisturbed, had you not attacked me.
>>>>attacking me, stop arguing with me, and keep that way.
>
>
>>>
>>>Not until you do.
>>>
>>
>>OK, then I guess we'll just keep going then...
>
>
> Yep, I got 7 Years.
>
For what? Had to be a felony...
>>> And then, if
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm in a good mood, I *will* stop.
>
>
> NO, by then YOU Will Understand.
>
I already understand.
>>>
>>>I need the rage you feed me, Antagonise taught how to gain the energy I
>>>need from arguing with people like you.
>>
>>Yes, that's called being a Berserker. These were Norsemen who worked
>>themselves up into a killing rage before going into battle.
>
>
> Right, Bar Har, Bruin Gi, BEARS.
> YOU GUESSED IT.
>
However, look at how we now use the word...
>
> The upside
>
>>was that they were so crazed, they couldn't feel pain or fear. The
>>downside is that they couldn't maintain that rage. When it was over,
>>they felt all the pain, as well as the enormous depression that comes
>>from the abuse of any drug (and adrenaline is a drug). I used to do
>>this quite a bit myself, but the high never was as good as the low was bad.
>>
>>Now it's your turn to find this out.
>
>
>
> You never used the force of the Bears, you never heard of it before me,
> and do not understand the truth of the teachings.
I don't use force. I never heard of it before you, because you're the
only one who talks about it.
> A man can only take just so much then they break.
True. However, this doesn't apply here.
> Force them to keep going anyway.
Force *who* to keep going away? You are ranting again, Azure.
> Then the second wind comes.
Or, reinforcements. You've got yourself a buddy now, haven't you?
Admit it. You don't know how to spell all those words by yourself.
> Justice FLOWS, can't be stopped.
When did this world ever have justice?
> You are on the wrong end of a loosing Battle.
>
Oh, maybe I was wrong about your spelling... anyway, I'm not on any
"wrong end" of a battle. I'm being mean to you, because you wouldn't
drop it when I asked you to. Since you were going to maintain the
argument anyway, despite my request that you not do it, I really didn't
have any choice but to stop posting here, or to join in the argument
with renewed vigor. Guess which one I picked?
>>>But Mystics are Liars.
>>>
>>
>>Oh, no, I never said that.
>
>
>
> Yes you did, maybe not in so many words but exactly what you mean.
>
But it's *not* what I said, or implied. I said *you* were a liar. Not
mystics, not anyone else, just you.
> I said *you* were a liar, not mystics.
>
> So I say you are a Liar.
>
Yes, indeed. However, I'm not. The archives speak for themselves.
> I'm
>
>>a mystic.
>
>
> You have no idea.
>
Yes, I do.
> You are not a mystic.
>
> Right so you say.
>
Yes, I do.
> You are nothing but a pathetic little
>
>>wanker trying to sound important and powerful by raging about being a
>>werewolf eating people's Ka, things like that. How silly...
>
>
> Midien Teaching.
> Silly is finding myself as Gi Saece, the 3rd Gi, sitting around even
> taking the time to respond to a Neo Nazi Hebrew God Hater.
>
Wrong on all three counts. Not a neo nazi (I attacked the last one who
posted here); I'm not a Hebrew; and I love God. Still can't get it
right, Azure?
>
>>>>But being rude to me like this isn't going to do it.
>>>
>>>
>>>pOT CALLS THE kettle bLACK.
>>>
>>
>>I wasn't calling you anything,
>
>
> Then take your fingers off the keyboard and read what you wrote, cause
> you did.
>
No, just finish reading my sentences before you reply.
> I was explaining
>
> Fuck You, you were insulting, there is no explanation in your words just
> rantings of a Neo Nazi, Hebrew God Hater.
>
Azure, I'm not going to date you, no matter how much you beg. Forget
it. I only date nice people, and you're really, really nasty.
> that only courtesy is
>
>>going to (possibly) get me to shut up.
>>
>>
>>> Telling me to
>>>
>>>
>>>>shut the fuck up, won't work.
>>>
>>>
>>>YOU STARTED IT.
>>>
>>
>>Well, we seem to have a difference of opinion on that point,
>
>
> Sure DO.
>
>
> but the
>
>>archives support my position.
>
>
> No they don't they support mine, you have done nothing but insult me at
> every post.
>
Every post since I asked you to leave me alone, and you refused -
telling me that I *started* the fight, and you'd finish it. You
expected me to roll over and play dead, maybe? Ain't gonna happen any
time soon.
> Nevertheless, I'm not talking about
>
>>starting it, I'm talking about ending it. That's entirely up to you,
>>and it requires you to be polite.
>
>
> No it requires YOU to be POLITE, GOD HATER.
>
I'm not a God-hater. When I was polite to you, you repeatedly were rude
and abusive, despite my requests that you stop doing that. I explained
more than once that I really didn't want you to be attacking me, please
speak with respect, etc. You refused. Then when I was willing to just
drop it, you kept at it. OK, so where else was I going to go? Can't
even talk to other people, you attacked me. So the only recourse is to
simply attack you every time you say something. Which, of course, is
about what I'm doing now.
>>> Telling me to get out of your face,
>>>
>>>
>>>>won't work. You have to ask me *nicely*.
>
>
> No, I like having you argue with me, I am hungry.
>
>
>>If you're hungry, it's best if you go eat something.
>
>
> I AM.
>
Good. You'd choke on my ka, if you could ever get at it - which you
couldn't, anyway. Foolish twit.
> Arguing with me
>
>>may kill your appetite for a while, but it's not going to fill your belly.
>
>
> Not my Stomach I want to Fill, I need the energy.
> PSI PIE.
>
No, it's called adrenaline, and it doesn't fill you. It's just an
addictive drug that will eventually tear you apart. People who are
adrenaline junkies self-destruct.
>>>>|>> My attitude is hardly anything even remotely resembling "neo-nazi".
>>>>|>
>
> Liar
> It's the truth.
>
>>No, it's not.
>
> Yes it is the Truth, Neo Nazi God Hater, who wants to try to shatter
> peoples beliefs.
>
No, I don't even want to shatter your beliefs, much less those of anyone
else. I'm just not going to take any shit from you. You wouldn't leave
me alone. OK, now I'm going to jump on you every chance I get. Deal
with it.
>
>
> you don't like what I
>
>>say to you, and you have nothing better to answer with besides
>>name-calling.
>
>
>
> That's your side of it, but you called me names first.
>
Not so. Anyway, even if that were true (and it isn't), you wouldn't let
me stop, refused to leave me alone when I asked you to. What did you
think would happen?
I tried to drop this. You decided I must be punished for imaginary
wrongs, so you refused to drop it, and you attacked me even when I
avoided talking to you, avoided all your threads. What did you expect?
I would just go away? Well, maybe you did expect that, but of course,
that's not how it worked out.
> But of course, that's what got you into this situation to
>
>>begin with. Name calling.
>
>
> Right you called me names I responded.
>
Not true. Anyway, see above.
>
>>>
>>>I do not espouse any sort of nazi or neo-nazi
>>>
>>>
>>>>philosophy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes you do, attack everyone, destroy people for their beliefs, HITLER
>>>did that, REMEMBER!
>>>
>>
>>But I *don't* attack everyone.
>
> of course, you.
> Liar there is a list of a considerable amount of people you talk to just
> like you do to me. That being anyone with any belief.
> As Long as they are a God Hater, you can be friends with them.
> Other than that your a Neo Nazi Bigot Hebrew who Hates God.
>
>>>>Maybe you've got me mixed up with someone else...
>
>
>
>
>>Sorry, Azure. I *am* the House of Abraham.
>
>
> Liar
> You are a Bigoted, Hate Mongering Neo Nazi, Godless Heb., who wants to
> attack the HOUSE of ABRAHAM.
No, I'm actually a fair-minded, loving, Godly person of the House of
Abraham, who wants to attack only one person - you. It's personal,
Azure, not philosophical, not religious, not political, not ideal.
Personal. You fucked with the wrong person.