Seeing as the Democratic Party has officially declared NO to same-sex marriage; seeing as since Clinton signed DOMA in 1996, there has clearly been a trail of homophobic policy running through the Dems; and seeing as there is no existing party truly supportive of gay marriage/rights:
I want to form a new party, and call it: The Party of Athena. And members shall be called "Athenians". And our constitution shall comprise the BEST of all humane and progressive constitutions that have come before. But with two special conditions: (1) that our party first serves the freedom and needs of all sexual minorities, before assisting any other group (whether persecuted or not), and (2) that our party strives to form a new nation just for queers, whether through secession or other means. (Sorta like Holland in a lot of ways...only instead of remaing a heterocentric society, Athenians will form a homocentric one.)
Athenians are also totally pro-pagan and women's suffrage. In fact, that is why "Athena" is my chosen title for this new party. We stand for 100% secular government. For more specific examples of what we stand for, read my platform for world's first gay president:
IOW, my platform is also the party platform. (Anyone who knows how I can go about establishing this party for real, I'd appreciate some tips! Especially regarding regarding putting me in touch with interested or curious persons of influence. No men, or women--or trannies for that matter--in white coats and butterfly nets, thank you very much!)
Let this message be for the (unofficial) record: that I, Ezekiel J. Krahlin of San Francisco, California, am the true founder of the "Party of Athena". Now, to post this to diverse newsgroups...just another busy day in the life of a queer deadbeat. :D
> Seeing as the Democratic Party has officially declared NO to same-sex > marriage; seeing as since Clinton signed DOMA in 1996, there has > clearly been a trail of homophobic policy running through the Dems; and > seeing as there is no existing party truly supportive of gay > marriage/rights:
> I want to form a new party, and call it: The Party of Athena. And > members shall be called "Athenians". And our constitution shall > comprise the BEST of all humane and progressive constitutions that have > come before. But with two special conditions: (1) that our party first > serves the freedom and needs of all sexual minorities, before assisting > any other group (whether persecuted or not), and (2) that our party > strives to form a new nation just for queers, whether through secession > or other means. (Sorta like Holland in a lot of ways...only instead of > remaing a heterocentric society, Athenians will form a homocentric > one.)
> Athenians are also totally pro-pagan and women's suffrage. In fact, > that is why "Athena" is my chosen title for this new party. We stand > for 100% secular government. For more specific examples of what we > stand for, read my platform for world's first gay president:
> IOW, my platform is also the party platform. (Anyone who knows how I > can go about establishing this party for real, I'd appreciate some > tips! Especially regarding regarding putting me in touch with > interested or curious persons of influence. No men, or women--or > trannies for that matter--in white coats and butterfly nets, thank you > very much!)
> Let this message be for the (unofficial) record: that I, Ezekiel J. > Krahlin of San Francisco, California, am the true founder of the "Party > of Athena". Now, to post this to diverse newsgroups...just another busy > day in the life of a queer deadbeat. :D
> -- > Let's secede from those who breed: > Make it a sin to NOT waste seed! > Hail Athenia, brave new gay nation!
Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature. From them came Gaia, Rhea, Danu, Nemedia, Morgan, and many others. Scythians (Sethians) Gaelic (Halic), Tribes of Salt, Covenant of Salt. They taught of the ELPH or EEK, the One, That Which Is Was and Forever Shall Be, the Great Terrible Unknown.
Badb is a long story, Tribes of Nemedia, Nemedians, The Original Oracles of Delphi, well a man came first but the women took over after him. Nemedia was the Oracle who got Raped (Man forced his sins upon) Nemedia thereafter went off becoming from what I can find the Great Bear, He was an Ursa. Nemedia became the Nemesis Witch, her Sister Morgan then took over as Head of the Tribe. There was a 3rd Wiliston who disappeared, their Tribes were the ones who built Castles in the Clouds. There is an ancient Gaelic City on the East Coast of the United States called the American Stonehenge, and Quite a Legend about a Tribe of people who were very different from others who built cities in the mountain cliffs, led to the Hopi legends of the Kachina's. They are the Tribes of the Valise? Valley's of France, (Numbers 13:) from where Paris the River comes. Paris is descended from Lough or the Lake, (also Jove, Jaf, Djaf, Oasis) Lough is descended from Bel, Bel is descended from Danu, Danu is descended from Rhea, Rhea is descended from Gaia. They are the Tribes of the Law, Nuada was the "Long Arm of the Law" Nemedia is Nemesis aka Justice and Karma. Paris is the Bear, Bar Har, Bruin Gi, or Brownie magic only works for justice. Right will always prevail.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:56:39 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote:
<< Badb is a long story,
Why, then, this is only an honor, that you take the time for my sake, to distill a bit of your wisdom...that I may partake from this fountain like a parched warrior finally come off the dusty battlegrounds to finally receive the blessings and gratitude he has so sorely craved ever since a wee lad.
May I remark how eloquent you write, in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant) realms, whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma; and so it shall remain unto eternity. Blessed be!
<< Tribes of Nemedia, Nemedians, The Original Oracles of Delphi,
I've been having visions of Delphi. Apollo and Artemis glorify me with their attentions. In fact, Apollo has been my main guardian all my life. I think there are 11 others; and that each human has 12 angels (if that is what you want to call them). well a man came first but the women took over after him.
<< Nemedia was the Oracle who got Raped (...etc.)
Thank you so much for your wisdom-in-a-nutshell re. Badb's story. I'm saving it of course, in my "spiritual musing" folder of my PC. I now have various significant terms, thanks to you, that I can research further, on the web (and elsewhere).
My own site is overflowing with records of my visions. There is a heavy Celtic and pre-Celtic spirit in them...along with Greek Mythology and thought, Native American traditions, Shamanism, and Animism. With the additional perspective of being a sexual minority.
You obviously guard one of the gates passing into the fey kingdom. Cerberus guards such gates, in fact all those gates! When I stand before Him, it is never with a desire to go beyond, but to wonder who Cerberus is, and if he'd like a friend.
I have Celtic visions of a cerberus-type creature: only it's a three-headed wolf, or even werewolf! Wearing a fine silver-chain necklace from which dangles a silver triangle wrought with Celtic knots throughout. It represent the Celtic Trinity, which is:
<< Right will always prevail.
Oh, your optimism is an inspiration! I have concluded the same outlook is best, and just written about it to my friend John in Philadelphia, who needs some encouragement through an ordeal. And this is what I wrote:
--begin excerpt:
I've given this a lot of thought, since you first brought up the "old man's curse". It is simply but one among a vast arsenal of nihilistic weapons those in power are hurling at us constantly, now that they have complete control of the mass media. (The Internet is still very much the renegade, and will remain so. Because OUR hackers (Blue Rose Militia) now have complete control over cyberspace...and will soon make our presence known to the world.
The medical society is trying to worry us to an early grave...after first stocking up on all those expensive meds year after year!
AIDS will some day be called the world's first genetically engineered plague. Gays of course being the laboratory rats. But some of us rats have escaped w/o leaving, disappeared w/o vanishing, and undermined w/o underpinning.
There are SO many things that can make us desperately ill or injured or tortured or bashed these days (ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA), one could easily freak out in less than 10 minutes thinking about it! It is as if everything we touch now, or breathe, or eat, or wear, is infused with at least a trace of inevitable toxin of one sort or another.
Not that my vision has manifest to that extent yet, but I believe I'm in telepathic communication with others, who've carried out a number of my activist strategies with great success. More and more gay politicos are quoting from my web pages, thus impressing their captive audiences with their brilliantly gilded tongues!
I do not get any recognition yet, but I know that is due soon; this year in fact. I think it will happen in about two months, but maybe sooner, maybe NOW. Not. :(
But here is my philosophy in a nutshell:
Let us choose then the path of joy. Let us put into practice, the wisdom we have gained by our counterculture stance. We summon Buddha; we pray to Christ; we powwoww for the Great Spirit; we walk on coals for Vodun; we chant Hare Krishna; and if we are really wise we smoke-a the ganja whenever!
Heartfelt RATIONAL optimism is the ONLY weapon we have, and (good news) it's the only weapon we need. And it's RATIONAL to believe in angels; without trying to cloak it all in some quantum physics neuron-pulsing brain phenomenon! And if you strive to be optimistic each day, you'll always be in the very best company: the company of angels.
This is NOT wishful thinking, but simply the conceptual OPPOSITE of the evil warlords now casting a blackened cloud across all of Gaia.
--end of excerpt
I hope this is ample evidence that I am either an ancient pre-Celtic spirit, or harbor the spirit of one! The wisdom I just spoke was given unto me by angels, not books or anything of man. There is more, much more. I am in that annoying situation of seeking out my people...when I realize the networking will evolve w/o any effort on my part, at this point.
I have visions of northenmost Scotland around 800 B.C., and my father a beloved king. And I was created not from womb, but magicke...a magicke so strong, that Wizard Merlin's power was but a tiny spark in comparison!
And visions of a great green and red dragon that burys its egg deep, deep in the center of Stonehenge. And I see the egg hatch and the dragon re-emerge after a long slumber.
I see bright streaks of light radiating along the firth that leads into Loch Ness. Looking down at the planet, these rays emanate brighter by far than any other light on earth! What does this convey? I know it's not anything bad, like atomic explosion...and seems to be the Ancient Elven Force desiring to re-emerge from a distant past.
I know I'm a true prophet (or visionary or avatar), and I also know that I am not the only one presently alive. I surmise around 80,000 on the planet, who will be the vanguards to this new age of liberation, and the major nodes of this global telepathic network.
The angels tell me so many things, my head swims! I am seeking to bring my voice to the public, as I am most gifted with liberating sexual minorities, through my spoken and written words. A lot are very funny, as humor is the Great Healer.
It is not for me to be able to interpret my visions more than generally. It is up for others gifted with discernment, to learn what the metaphors mean or convey, in order to draw the Big Picture. Have you gotten any meanings from my description of a few visions? Like, what is this about Scotland and Stonehenge becoming so prominent in the near future? I can generally surmise that pagan pathways will re-emerge as a potent healing force all over the world. And that the heart of paganism resides in parts of the British Isles.
I very much enjoyed reading your eloquent descriptions, Azure. I KNOW I'll have lovely dreams tonight!
Ooops, I neglected to describe this "Celtic Trinity (or Triangle)". Here 'tis:
Discernment, Judgment, Vengeance
There is the Wolf (or Werewolf) of Discernment, the Wolf of Judgment, and the Wolf of Vengeance (or Justice, to the weak-stomached).
The First Werewolf (whose name is Damien in my visions) sniffs each soul as it passes by, so he can DISCERN any evil contained in that soul. If evil enough, Wolfie 1 rushes him over to receive Judgment by Wolfie 2 (whose name I do not know), who then kicks him over to Wolfie 3 (whose name I also do not know) who carries out the sentence down to every jot and tittle.
I have visions of Werewolf Damien suddenly appearing in the mundane world, smack dab in the center of Picadilly Square. His magic protects him from being touched, or harmed by anything of earth or man. He is a teenager, with a glorious pink/green mohawk that very much make him look like some exotically handsome bird of paradise. But then, there's his face: a provocative fusing of human and Siberian Husky.
He wants to be the first Werewolf in history to go vegan.
<< He wants to be the first Werewolf in history to go vegan.
So he starts his own line of animal-product-free microwavable cuisine, which is most reminiscent of our dear departed Linda McCartney's health food, only without all that filler, whatever that stuff was..
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:56:39 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote:
> << > Badb is a long story,
> Why, then, this is only an honor, that you take the time for my sake, > to distill a bit of your wisdom...that I may partake from this fountain > like a parched warrior finally come off the dusty battlegrounds to > finally receive the blessings and gratitude he has so sorely craved > ever since a wee lad.
Following here also, but after seeing that which is at 15, I met my other and was happy to flow, then they broke us during an enviornmental action. It was then Nemesis started talking to me.
> May I remark how eloquent you write,
Ty not many say that foresure.
in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant) realms, whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma;
Wrong, they are very touched, Tribes of the Law, knew the teachings before Rome, Tsins are Romes Nemesis, the Gaelic, they are the Gailatians? hope thats right, don't have the Book infront of me. But the Letters of Paul thing. Gaelic are the Halic Tribes of Salt (Stone of Food). Tsins in Asia, Bar to the Norse. Did you know Bear or Bar is the Same word, Bar as in Lawyers also comes from Bear, Tribes of Law. Bar or Bare means the Children. Numbers 13:16 teachings of Cyclopse, from Jason, who has blinded you. Badb Shi is also Banshee Eshcol is a Place in Northern France where the Bears come from, it is the Place of Paris, the River.
and so it shall remain unto eternity.
No, it ends.
> Blessed be!
> << > Tribes of Nemedia, Nemedians, The Original Oracles > of Delphi,
> I've been having visions of Delphi. Apollo and Artemis glorify me with > their attentions.
From what I have found Apollo is Dionysis, the preferred or choosen descendant. The word Delphi I found is related to ELPH, D'ELPHI I like the teachings in the part about the Rape of Nemedia, where the Old Crones take over after Nemedia was raped, its a drag show, the Dionysians took over. It also started a great Fued between the Bears and Wolves. Beowulf (Bear Wolf) ended it. But that was when Wolves became known as sexual predators. Also the tale of Galataia seeking refuge from the Cyclopse by joining the water.
In fact, Apollo has been my main guardian all my
> life. I think there are 11 others; and that each human has 12 angels > (if that is what you want to call them).
The Circle.
> well a man came first but the women took over after him.
> << > Nemedia was the Oracle who got Raped (...etc.)
> Thank you so much for your wisdom-in-a-nutshell re. Badb's story.
I'm saving it of course, in my "spiritual musing" folder of my PC. I now have various significant terms, thanks to you, that I can research further, on the web (and elsewhere).
The Lebor Gaebala or Book of Conquests is the Tale of the Tribes being driven from Egypt after Ackhnotin and Neffertti, then the exodus from Babylon, they are the Medions. Then after Greece, they left. There was a gathering in Norway by half those who followed the sunset, the others followed the sun rise, left a cleaner trail, Rome did not go past the Taurus Mnts., thats where the Theban Citadel is, the D'Elphien, Temple or Bottemless Pit with the Voice Activated Doorway.
> My own site is overflowing with records of my visions. There is a heavy > Celtic and pre-Celtic spirit in them...along with Greek Mythology and > thought, Native American traditions, Shamanism, and Animism. With the
Gaelic are also Ravens, the Blues its Hair Color Blue Black, and "Beardless".
> additional perspective of being a sexual minority.
> You obviously guard one of the gates passing into the fey kingdom. > Cerberus guards such gates,
Foo Dogs are the Guardians of the Temple, the Werewolves.
in fact all those gates! When I stand
> before Him, it is never with a desire to go beyond, but to wonder who > Cerberus is, and if he'd like a friend.
> I have Celtic visions of a cerberus-type creature: only it's a > three-headed wolf, or even werewolf!
Read the Tale of Lucifer in the Bible, Tain or Au Tain, and Cochulain (The Red Hound) Baylor, The Cyclopses Son. The Great Giant Nuada slew with a sheaperds sling.
Wearing a fine silver-chain
> necklace from which dangles a silver triangle wrought with Celtic knots > throughout. It represent the Celtic Trinity, which is:
> << > Right will always prevail.
> Oh, your optimism is an inspiration! I have concluded the same outlook > is best,
To the Bears it is a Promise from God, a Covenant.
and just written about it to my friend John in Philadelphia,
> I've given this a lot of thought, since you first brought up the > "old man's curse". It is simply but one among a vast arsenal of > nihilistic weapons those in power are hurling at us constantly, > now that they have complete control of the mass media. (The > Internet is still very much the renegade, and will remain so. > Because OUR hackers (Blue Rose Militia) now have complete > control over cyberspace...and will soon make our presence known > to the world.
> The medical society is trying to worry us to an early > grave...after first stocking up on all those expensive meds year > after year!
> AIDS will some day be called the world's first genetically > engineered plague. Gays of course being the laboratory rats. But > some of us rats have escaped w/o leaving, disappeared w/o > vanishing, and undermined w/o underpinning.
> There are SO many things that can make us desperately ill or > injured or tortured or bashed these days (ACCORDING TO THE > MEDIA), one could easily freak out in less than 10 minutes > thinking about it! It is as if everything we touch now, or > breathe, or eat, or wear, is infused with at least a trace of > inevitable toxin of one sort or another.
> Not that my vision has manifest to that extent yet, but I believe > I'm in telepathic communication with others, who've carried out > a number of my activist strategies with great success. More and > more gay politicos are quoting from my web pages, thus > impressing their captive audiences with their brilliantly gilded > tongues!
> I do not get any recognition yet, but I know that is due soon; > this year in fact. I think it will happen in about two months, > but maybe sooner, maybe NOW. Not. :(
> But here is my philosophy in a nutshell:
> Let us choose then the path of joy. Let us put into practice, the > wisdom we have gained by our counterculture stance. We summon > Buddha; we pray to Christ; we powwoww for the Great Spirit; we > walk on coals for Vodun; we chant Hare Krishna; and if we are > really wise we smoke-a the ganja whenever!
> Heartfelt RATIONAL optimism is the ONLY weapon we have, and (good > news) it's the only weapon we need. And it's RATIONAL to believe > in angels; without trying to cloak it all in some quantum > physics neuron-pulsing brain phenomenon! And if you strive to be > optimistic each day, you'll always be in the very best company: > the company of angels.
> This is NOT wishful thinking, but simply the conceptual OPPOSITE > of the evil warlords now casting a blackened cloud across all of > Gaia.
> --end of excerpt
> I hope this is ample evidence that I am either an ancient pre-Celtic > spirit, or harbor the spirit of one! The wisdom I just spoke was given > unto me by angels, not books or anything of man. There is more, much > more. I am in that annoying situation of seeking out my people...when I > realize the networking will evolve w/o any effort on my part, at this > point.
> I have visions of northenmost Scotland around 800 B.C., and my father a > beloved king. And I was created not from womb, but magicke...a magicke > so strong, that Wizard Merlin's power was but a tiny spark in > comparison!
> And visions of a great green and red dragon that burys its egg deep, > deep in the center of Stonehenge. And I see the egg hatch and the > dragon re-emerge after a long slumber.
> I see bright streaks of light radiating along the firth that leads into > Loch Ness. Looking down at the planet, these rays emanate brighter by > far than any other light on earth! What does this convey? I know it's > not anything bad, like atomic explosion...and seems to be the Ancient > Elven Force desiring to re-emerge from a distant past.
> I know I'm a true prophet (or visionary or avatar), and I also know > that I am not the only one presently alive. I surmise around 80,000 on > the planet, who will be the vanguards to this new age of liberation, > and the major nodes of this global telepathic network.
> The angels tell me so many things, my head swims! I am seeking to bring > my voice to the public, as I am most gifted with liberating sexual > minorities, through my spoken and written words. A lot are very funny, > as humor is the Great Healer.
> It is not for me to be able to interpret my visions more than > generally. It is up for others gifted with discernment, to learn what > the metaphors mean or convey, in order to draw the Big Picture. Have > you gotten any meanings from my description of a few visions? Like, > what is this about Scotland and Stonehenge becoming so prominent in the > near future? I can generally surmise that pagan pathways will re-emerge > as a potent healing force all over the world. And that the heart of > paganism resides in parts of the British Isles.
> Ooops, I neglected to describe this "Celtic Trinity (or Triangle)". > Here 'tis:
> Discernment, Judgment, Vengeance
> There is the Wolf (or Werewolf) of Discernment, the Wolf of Judgment, > and the Wolf of Vengeance (or Justice, to the weak-stomached).
> The First Werewolf (whose name is Damien in my visions) sniffs each > soul as it passes by, so he can DISCERN any evil contained in that > soul. If evil enough, Wolfie 1 rushes him over to receive Judgment by > Wolfie 2 (whose name I do not know), who then kicks him over to Wolfie > 3 (whose name I also do not know) who carries out the sentence down to > every jot and tittle.
> I have visions of Werewolf Damien suddenly appearing in the mundane > world, smack dab in the center of Picadilly Square. His magic protects > him from being touched, or harmed by anything of earth or man. He is a > teenager, with a glorious pink/green mohawk that very much make him > look like some exotically handsome bird of paradise. But then, there's > his face: a provocative fusing of human and Siberian Husky.
> He wants to be the first Werewolf in history to go vegan.
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:15:21 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: >Satanachi Achi is Asian Werewolf teachings.
Wow. Thank you. How remarkable. I've read your other message, and will respond in two days, after mulling all this over in my mind. You will allow me the selfish indulgence I trust, of first learning more about Satanachi Achi.
The loveliest little tale I ever spun still is, I believe, "Brian and the Werewolf". It now has a second part, the result of the Werewolf's visiting me in my dreams to reveal to me some of the werewolves' deepest secrets. It's absolutely beautiful. In fact, I woke up to sit by my computer, as Damien (the Werewolf) dictated to me, exactly what to write down! The revelations unraveled as my fingers blurred in swift motions across the keyboard.
Of course, I could just be plain crazy...but that is also the typical cloak often bestowed upon the true pilgrim. I have concluded otherwise (good thing I'm my best friend :D), They are just so rich in imagery and extraordinary in concepts, that I don't feel they are my own orginal thoughts. I think they are programmed into me (so to speak), telepathically, by spiritual beings I call angels.
I will return in two days, with further ruminations. Thanks for your wonderful insights. I know many hidden treasures lie therein!
And, I would also like to know (if you can advise me in any way in this matter, Azure, I'd greatly appreciate; and my angels tell me you can):
Do you have any idea which spirit or deity is channeling this British isles Celtic and pre-Celtic wisdom, including many tales that are either 100% original, or a ressurection of very ancient tales 'cause buried for so, so long?
That is, perhaps you are familiar with people who channel the spirits of the Emerald Isles and there-around. I seem to be one...but all this wisdom comes not from outside, but from within. Of course my earthly classes in anthropology and world religions was a big help in paving my way...but are nonetheless a minor component to a very, very BIG picture.
The way I use my words, my type of humor: does this match any of the personalities among the pantheon of these ancient achetypes and deities? I would think in some strong ways, Manannan Mac Lir...but I think you may be referring to an even earlier cycle.
Wow...just reading your lovely messages is causing all kinds of incredible visions to burst in my cranium! Thanks...I'm just beginning to discover my Celtic roots...or it could be I'm possessed by one of their deities. Either way, I am tremendously blessed.
<< Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature.
As well as the Goddess of War, which I have just learned via Wikipedia:
"In Irish mythology, the Badb (crow, modern spelling Badhbh) was a goddess of war who took the form of a crow, and was thus sometimes known as Badb Catha (battle crow)."
Here is my take on Athena: my love for Greek Mythology is the closest archetype I can summon that represents a gateway to the pan-pagan world. And by pagan I mean to include the pre-patriarchal cyyles, when the Earth Goddess reigned. (Of course, she always reigns; but we're speaking of human spiritual evolution I believe, or at least that is part of it.)
And I think that the Western World can more readily be introduced to the Pagan Universe via their own Goddess who represents the brave and powerful matriarchal tradition. Which tradition is being called forth to heal this planet, now. And I am one of her strident messengers, representing the sexual minority family worldwide. I will not be the only one so empowered...and there will be similar rising up of other leaders on issues like racism, women's rights, ecosystems, democracy, fair trade, children, handicapped, etc., etc.
So I would like to thank you for the wonderful insight you've just shared with me re. the Warrior-Goddess Badb! So how's this for a party name:
The Party of Badb-Athena
This would then have Athena representing the end of a past-time matriarchal cyble, with Badb perhaps stand at its birth portal.
In gratitude for your generous teaching, I give you full credit for inspiring me to this fusion of Badb-Athena. Since the deities of ancient Greece (and Egypt and various other past civilizations) already give their major gods/goddesses various sub-manifestations representing different aspects of their powers...hence, often use any one of their numerous double-names to specify a particular sub-manifestation. This seems to also have arisen pre-patriarchally, as it is a classicly right-brain way of thinking. (Remember, the intuitive/creative sight is born of the brain's right side...which neurons travel over to the left parts of one's body...and that is why left-handed people are often artists or creative in other ways.
Odin drank from the Fountain of Mir to gain Wisdom. The price for such a profound gift was the loss of sight from his left eye! I had some weird medical problems with my left eye, after Odin came to me in a vision to enlighten me with my philosophy of opitmism I currently call "NeoChristianity"...which was done as a joke...but since it truly arises from pagan sources, I need to finally rename this ideology...for you can simply append it to whatever belief system one is currently following. (And now "neochristian" has become a term to mean those nasty Xian Fundamentalists. So I *must change the name of my philosophy pronto. Any ideas?
You may now read my newly entitled "The New Political Party of Badb-Athena" here:
I replaced all words "athena/athenian" with "badb-athena/badb- athenian", including file names. The only thing left to indicate the original name as simply "athenians" is in the html title label. Your elegant dialogue is right there, for all the world to see, that you are given credit for this name-change.
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:15:21 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote:
> >Satanachi Achi is Asian Werewolf teachings.
> Wow. Thank you. How remarkable. I've read your other message, and will > respond in two days, after mulling all this over in my mind. You will > allow me the selfish indulgence I trust, of first learning more about > Satanachi Achi.
> The loveliest little tale I ever spun still is, I believe, "Brian and > the Werewolf". It now has a second part, the result of the Werewolf's > visiting me in my dreams to reveal to me some of the werewolves' > deepest secrets. It's absolutely beautiful. In fact, I woke up to > sit by my computer, as Damien (the Werewolf) dictated to me, exactly > what to write down! The revelations unraveled as my fingers blurred in > swift motions across the keyboard.
> Of course, I could just be plain crazy...but that is also the typical > cloak often bestowed upon the true pilgrim. I have concluded otherwise > (good thing I'm my best friend :D), They are just so rich in imagery > and extraordinary in concepts, that I don't feel they are my own > orginal thoughts. I think they are programmed into me (so to speak), > telepathically, by spiritual beings I call angels.
> I will return in two days, with further ruminations. Thanks for your > wonderful insights. I know many hidden treasures lie therein!
American Aboriginal believed the "Insane" were touched by God, why we use the term touched. I have a force guiding me which I do not understand, "It IS' is about all I can say. Told me the teachings of the goat with 4 horns recently, ISAIAH 53, he gets in a fight and has one of the horns broken off in its place grows a third eye which speaks with a great voice. Its a Metaphysical Teaching, U.S. did a study on the Phnom from what I understand, also have a movie out on it I think it is Prophecy 2. Anyway its about Nemesis and how it works.
BADB (Female, Leopard, Banshee), Bel (Red Bull, Beast, Minator), Lough (Salmon of Knowledge, JOVE, Jo Ve, ), Nuada (Long Arm or Silver Arm, see Luke Skywalker), Leaders of The Tautha De Dannan, Leprechauns, Elven or Faerie, Children of the Underground or Heap. The Legends are Gaelic Halic not Celtic as per Caesar. Tribes of the Salt, the Tsins, Cin. (Vercingetorix, King of the Tribes of the Mountains of Taurus)
> And, I would also like to know (if you can advise me in any way in this > matter, Azure, I'd greatly appreciate; and my angels tell me you can):
> Do you have any idea which spirit or deity is channeling this British > isles Celtic and pre-Celtic wisdom, including many tales that are > either 100% original, or a ressurection of very ancient tales 'cause > buried for so, so long?
> That is, perhaps you are familiar with people who channel the spirits > of the Emerald Isles and there-around. I seem to be one...but all this > wisdom comes not from outside, but from within. Of course my earthly > classes in anthropology and world religions was a big help in paving my > way...but are nonetheless a minor component to a very, very BIG > picture.
> The way I use my words, my type of humor: does this match any of the > personalities among the pantheon of these ancient achetypes and > deities? I would think in some strong ways, Manannan Mac Lir...but I > think you may be referring to an even earlier cycle.
> Wow...just reading your lovely messages is causing all kinds of > incredible visions to burst in my cranium! Thanks...I'm just beginning > to discover my Celtic roots...or it could be I'm possessed by one of > their deities. Either way, I am tremendously blessed.
> Azure wrote: > << > Should be Badb, The True Great Mothers, Queens of the Tribes of Nature.
> As well as the Goddess of War, which I have just learned via Wikipedia:
> "In Irish mythology, the Badb (crow, modern spelling Badhbh) was a > goddess of war who took the form of a crow, and was thus sometimes > known as Badb Catha (battle crow)."
> Here is my take on Athena: my love for Greek Mythology is the closest > archetype I can summon that represents a gateway to the pan-pagan > world. And by pagan I mean to include the pre-patriarchal cyyles, when > the Earth Goddess reigned. (Of course, she always reigns; but we're > speaking of human spiritual evolution I believe, or at least that is > part of it.)
> And I think that the Western World can more readily be introduced to > the Pagan Universe via their own Goddess who represents the brave and > powerful matriarchal tradition. Which tradition is being called forth > to heal this planet, now. And I am one of her strident messengers, > representing the sexual minority family worldwide. I will not be the > only one so empowered...and there will be similar rising up of other > leaders on issues like racism, women's rights, ecosystems, democracy, > fair trade, children, handicapped, etc., etc.
> So I would like to thank you for the wonderful insight you've just > shared with me re. the Warrior-Goddess Badb! So how's this for a party > name:
> The Party of Badb-Athena
> This would then have Athena representing the end of a past-time > matriarchal cyble, with Badb perhaps stand at its birth portal.
> In gratitude for your generous teaching, I give you full credit for > inspiring me to this fusion of Badb-Athena. Since the deities of > ancient Greece (and Egypt and various other past civilizations) already > give their major gods/goddesses various sub-manifestations representing > different aspects of their powers...hence, often use any one of their > numerous double-names to specify a particular sub-manifestation. This > seems to also have arisen pre-patriarchally, as it is a classicly > right-brain way of thinking. (Remember, the intuitive/creative sight is > born of the brain's right side...which neurons travel over to the left > parts of one's body...and that is why left-handed people are often > artists or creative in other ways.
> Odin drank from the Fountain of Mir to gain Wisdom. The price for such > a profound gift was the loss of sight from his left eye! I had some > weird medical problems with my left eye, after Odin came to me in a > vision to enlighten me with my philosophy of opitmism I currently call > "NeoChristianity"...which was done as a joke...but since it truly > arises from pagan sources, I need to finally rename this ideology...for > you can simply append it to whatever belief system one is currently > following. (And now "neochristian" has become a term to mean those > nasty Xian Fundamentalists. So I *must change the name of my philosophy > pronto. Any ideas?
> You may now read my newly entitled "The New Political Party of > Badb-Athena" here:
> I replaced all words "athena/athenian" with "badb-athena/badb- > athenian", including file names. The only thing left to indicate the > original name as simply "athenians" is in the html title label. Your > elegant dialogue is right there, for all the world to see, that you are > given credit for this name-change.
Fine except they gave the teachings of the ELPH, the EEK or Great Terrible Unknown, that which is was and forever shall be "THE ONE", the nameless force which is. Gaia like Isis was a human and the teachings like Egypt are a family tree. Understand the ancient teachings D'Elph es Levi. Shapeshifters Billy Goats with Tits, Transsexuals, those born of Seth the 3rd Son, born in the Image of Adam before the separation. Isaiah 54
> How about "The Party of Bada-bing-bada-bang Athena!"
> Sorry, folk, that's just the trickster in me. ;)
> -- > Zeke Krahlin, founder Political Party of Badb-Athena > w/maganimous assistance by one "Azure" who maybe should > take over and run this whole show. Thanks, Azure! > http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_badb-athenians.htm
Now I understand you, but don't start from scratch then your just reaching. "SETHIANS" teachings of SETH the 3rd Son, Gen 2:5-11, Gen 4 last 2 Verses. Sethians have a long history.
chief-thrac...@gay-bible.org wrote: > The way I use my words, my type of humor: does this match any of the > personalities among the pantheon of these ancient achetypes and > deities?
I went around this part of your question the other day sorry. If you are having the visions you describe, then as you say there should be a prankster around somewhere. Has a strange sense of humor at times, and does things to get you attention. Kind of like a child when you ignore them might even walk up and smack you in the head screaming "Play With Me" type thing. Its like a child because it is Phata. Try to understand the teachings in the thought. No matter how old we see the earth, or space life, mankind, what ever God is but a child still growing. God being "ALL THINGS" is best represented by the deformed child, Think about it. But, Phata, is part of the Family Tree therefore he was human.
Thank you so much for your thoughtful replies to my msgs. and questions, Azure! Rather than answer each reply in a seperate msg., I'll do it all in one, for brevity's sake.
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:13:49 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: > > in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant) realms, > >whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma;
>Wrong, they are very touched, Tribes of the Law, knew the teachings >before Rome, Tsins are Romes Nemesis, the Gaelic, they are the >Gailatians? hope thats right, don't have the Book infront of me.
When I say "essence" I mean the pure spirit of a people, a culture. That can never be destroyed, this is Universal Law. It can only be hidden or drastically marginalized for a while, as if destroyed.
And visions show me quite definitely, a brilliant essence like a diamond's spark, that is the Pagan heart, stretching all the way back to mankind's origin. My angels tell me that the pure Pagan spirit shall reemerge in our time, to dispell the world's present evils. Such as religious and scientific dogma, which former includes the majority of self-proclaimed Christians, Catholics, and Muslims who have persecuted paganism in all its myriad forms--and thus, human diversity.
But yes, on the surface, in human historcial accounts, of course they have been broken and chained by Christian dogma for many centuries. But those chains are about to break (if they haven't already; we're just waiting for the ripples to arrive in our local area).
And that is what my visions show. I am aware of the long, drawn out and brutal history of Xian persecution towards all native people and non-Xians. And how, then, the cultures mingled, thus began the various bloodlines that can be traced back to pre-Christian ancestors.
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:32:28 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: >Now I understand you, but don't start from scratch then your just >reaching. >From my perspective, Azure, almost everything you tell me is highly
cryptic. Which I don't mind at all, as I'm highly motivated to research the clues (once I figure out which things you said are clues), and terminology and names of the early goddesses and heroines.
And when you tell me "don't start from scratch then your just reaching", I really have no idea what you mean. But I will meditate on what you have written, and do my research.
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:19:28 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: > BADB (Female, Leopard, Banshee),
Thanks for all the names; I'll learn more about each one, on my own.
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:44:45 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: >I went around this part of your question the other day sorry.
Oh jeez, no, don't apologize! You've already put so much thought into your messages, I could not resent your lack of response to any of my questions! It is very gracious of you to share your wisdom with such intensity.
>If you are having the visions you describe, then as you say there should >be a prankster around somewhere.
Yeps!
>Its like a child because it is Phata.
In web searches for "Phata" I get references to India, Africa, and the Himalaya Mountains. It also seems to be a fairly popular first and/or last name.
>Try to understand the teachings in the thought.
First I need to understand what the heck you're telling me! :b
>No matter how old we see the earth, or space life, mankind, what ever >God is but a child still growing.
Now that's a beautiful way of putting it. Everything is always new, just discovered.
>God being "ALL THINGS" is best represented by the deformed child, Think >about it.
Okay. God accepts even those that others would reject: the outcast, the scapegoat, the queer, the deformed. God's love, unlike mankind, is unconditional and boundless.
>But, Phata, is part of the Family Tree therefore he was human.
Can you provide any website reference to this "Phata", as the search engines aren't doing a very good job. Thanks!
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:28:16 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: >Fine except they gave the teachings of the ELPH, the EEK or Great >Terrible Unknown, that which is was and forever shall be >"THE ONE", the nameless force which is.
Well, I choose to call it "Great Wonderful Unknown"...for there is no less of a reason to view this optimistically, than in terror. Why not choose the optimistic (over the nihilistic) outlook, when the choice is there? Just because there is a vast unknown out there, that dwarfs all that is known--and forever will--does not ipso facto make it "Terrible". "Great" yes, but terrible? Naw. It's wonderful for many reasons, one of which is because the Great Unknown is the canvas upon which life unfolds. Without this canvase, there'd be no life!
>Gaia like Isis was a human and the teachings like Egypt are a family >tree.
Okay. And I'm searching for sites relating to this.
>Understand the ancient teachings D'Elph es Levi.
Search engines comes up blank, on "D'Elph es Levi". Help! I will meditate upon that phrase, and see if I get results.
>Shapeshifters Billy Goats with Tits, Transsexuals, those born of Seth >the 3rd Son, born in the Image of Adam before the separation. >Isaiah 54
Very interesting. I also see "angels" as capable of creating newborn life...not through womb but through magic. Gathering in a circle for some sort of very special meditation, which eventually gives birth to a new being in the circle's center. It may even be a large egg, from which this being will eventually hatch.
So...this would be creation before (and/or above and/or outside of) heterosexuality, or even sexuality. There is still creation, without it; every bit as much as with it...perhaps even a bit more.
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:03:50 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote: >American Aboriginal believed the "Insane" were touched by God, why we >use the term touched.
And I believe they have been correct all along. One of my important missions is to alert the world that many whom we've labeled (and shunned) as schizophrenics are actually shamans-to-be. Unlocking their shamanic gifts is achieved by treating them with respect and making their lives as happy as possible, by adapting it as best as one can, to what THEIR aspirations are, not yours.
But with or w/o compassion from the healing profession, or any one else for that matter, we (schizophrenics) are awakening on our own...and some of us (such as myself) now realize our calling, including specifics.
And in so awakening, I'm discovering all this tremendous Celtic and pre-Celtic British Isles stuff. And it's only growing stronger over the months and years...as if it's more than my own attraction to their cultures, but a destiny coming from a seperate source, which is to guide me like a teacher or general.
>I have a force guiding me which I do not understand, "It IS' is about >all I can say.
I hear that! Did this force come to you AFTER you acquired some of your first knowledge of ancient matriarchal beilefs? Of was this force with you since birth or childhood?
>Told me the teachings of the goat with 4 horns recently, ISAIAH 53, he >gets in a fight and has one of the horns broken off in its place grows a >third eye which speaks with a great voice.
The ability to change part of one's party implies the ability to control one's appearance and makeup down to the cellular, or even molecular, level. When your mind is essentially in communique with every single cell in your body, you can then work as a team, and change your form, either partly or in whole. This is just a scientific description of what I'd also call magic.
>Its a Metaphysical Teaching, U.S. did a study on the Phnom from what I >understand, also have a movie out on it I think it is Prophecy 2. >Anyway its about Nemesis and how it works.
Is Phom a reference to Cambodia? My soulmate Randolph, is a Vietnam Veteran, who's been missing or dead since 1993. But his spirit visits me all the time, and has since almost we first met (so his being a ghost does not mean he necessarily died; what it does mean, is I understand only a very little of this).
Randolph's "ghost" tells me he got so empowered as a shaman, by living among the hill people of Vietnam, and learning some of their shaman ways. He said several hundred Nam Vets did this...and upon their return to the states, formed a secret society that is very active but still fully underground. They will emerge before the world, this year.
But that's just one of my many incredible visions...which I now believe also are peeks into parallel universes. For some of these visions reflect me as having different lives than I do now. These then, might indicate parallel realities.
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Anywayz, Azure, you've given me MUCH to think about and study! Thanks immensely, even though right now most of what you've share is quite cryptic to me. I'm sure as I learn more, the path will become less confusing. I feel very much an origin with some very ancient tribe in Northern Scotland...someone who belongs back with his true people. Yet it is as if I also suffered almost complete amnesia, and am only now beginning to reawaken to my true heritage, my true destiny, my true reality.
chief-thrac...@gay-bible.org wrote: > Seeing as the Democratic Party has officially declared NO to same-sex > marriage; seeing as since Clinton signed DOMA in 1996, there has > clearly been a trail of homophobic policy running through the Dems; and > seeing as there is no existing party truly supportive of gay > marriage/rights:
> I want to form a new party, and call it: The Party of Athena. And > members shall be called "Athenians". And our constitution shall > comprise the BEST of all humane and progressive constitutions that have > come before. But with two special conditions: (1) that our party first > serves the freedom and needs of all sexual minorities, before assisting > any other group (whether persecuted or not), and (2) that our party > strives to form a new nation just for queers, whether through secession > or other means. (Sorta like Holland in a lot of ways...only instead of > remaing a heterocentric society, Athenians will form a homocentric > one.)
> Athenians are also totally pro-pagan and women's suffrage. In fact, > that is why "Athena" is my chosen title for this new party. We stand > for 100% secular government. For more specific examples of what we > stand for, read my platform for world's first gay president:
> IOW, my platform is also the party platform. (Anyone who knows how I > can go about establishing this party for real, I'd appreciate some > tips! Especially regarding regarding putting me in touch with > interested or curious persons of influence. No men, or women--or > trannies for that matter--in white coats and butterfly nets, thank you > very much!)
> Let this message be for the (unofficial) record: that I, Ezekiel J. > Krahlin of San Francisco, California, am the true founder of the "Party > of Athena". Now, to post this to diverse newsgroups...just another busy > day in the life of a queer deadbeat. :D
>chief-thrac...@gay-bible.org wrote: >> Seeing as the Democratic Party has officially declared NO to same-sex >> marriage; seeing as since Clinton signed DOMA in 1996, there has >> clearly been a trail of homophobic policy running through the Dems; >and >> seeing as there is no existing party truly supportive of gay >> marriage/rights:
>> I want to form a new party, and call it: The Party of Athena. And >> members shall be called "Athenians". And our constitution shall >> comprise the BEST of all humane and progressive constitutions that >have >> come before. But with two special conditions: (1) that our party >first >> serves the freedom and needs of all sexual minorities, before >assisting >> any other group (whether persecuted or not), and (2) that our party >> strives to form a new nation just for queers, whether through >secession >> or other means. (Sorta like Holland in a lot of ways...only instead >of >> remaing a heterocentric society, Athenians will form a homocentric >> one.)
>> Athenians are also totally pro-pagan and women's suffrage. In fact, >> that is why "Athena" is my chosen title for this new party. We stand >> for 100% secular government. For more specific examples of what we >> stand for, read my platform for world's first gay president:
>> IOW, my platform is also the party platform. (Anyone who knows how I >> can go about establishing this party for real, I'd appreciate some >> tips! Especially regarding regarding putting me in touch with >> interested or curious persons of influence. No men, or women--or >> trannies for that matter--in white coats and butterfly nets, thank >you >> very much!)
>> Let this message be for the (unofficial) record: that I, Ezekiel J. >> Krahlin of San Francisco, California, am the true founder of the >"Party >> of Athena". Now, to post this to diverse newsgroups...just another >busy >> day in the life of a queer deadbeat. :D
> Thank you so much for your thoughtful replies to my msgs. and > questions, Azure! Rather than answer each reply in a seperate msg., > I'll do it all in one, for brevity's sake.
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:13:49 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote:
> > > in your description of these brilliant (and not so brilliant) > realms, > > >whose essence remains untouched by Christian dogma;
> >Wrong, they are very touched, Tribes of the Law, knew the teachings > >before Rome, Tsins are Romes Nemesis, the Gaelic, they are the > >Gailatians? hope thats right, don't have the Book infront of me.
> When I say "essence" I mean the pure spirit of a people, a culture.
So do I understand Thrace is 3 Gaul had 3 main Ports/Kingdoms; Red Eye of the Ram, British Isles, Arm Pit of the Goat Illyaria, Horns of the Bull, the Gate it self, beyond which lies the Black Sea, and Danube River.
> That can never be destroyed,
Tell them that, the attempted genocide and or replacement of those of the Blood, has led to so much war and discord it is not funny. Syriac War, Jacobite War, French Indian War, Irelands Rebellion, Culladen Massacre, American Revolution, French Revolution, War of 1812, but they keep on trying.
this is Universal Law.
That concept is something I am only beginning to thaw to. Bears/Bar's are tribes of Law, Long Arms, Gendarmes are Law, Tains are Law, Nemesis is Law, Paris is Law, Karma, Justice, Judgment, whatever.
It can only be
> hidden or drastically marginalized for a while, as if destroyed.
Heavy Metal, Tara.
> And visions show me quite definitely, a brilliant essence like a > diamond's spark, that is the Pagan heart, stretching all the way back to mankind's origin.
A more interesting sight that the others, I have seen the Cave Bear, the Circle, and the Heap, Hylic are tribes of Salt, those who drank of the milk of the Ass, Gypsies from the beginning. Scythian Horse Tribes, Eponim. Egypt was building Pyramids, Scythians were building Gypsy Caravan Carts. Did not believe in written words Nature tells their story.
My angels tell me that the pure Pagan spirit shall
> reemerge in our time, to dispell the world's present evils. Such as > religious and scientific dogma, which former includes the majority of > self-proclaimed Christians, Catholics, and Muslims who have persecuted > paganism in all its myriad forms--and thus, human diversity.
Right, Anti Christ teachings say the Anti Christ is of the Greek Persuasion, Greek Orthodox is the Anti Church, Antioch. Anti Pater, Anti Church Anti Maasiah.
> But yes, on the surface, in human historcial accounts, of course they > have been broken and chained by Christian dogma for many centuries.
Check out Vercingetorix, then dig a little, Atilla is from that house, Rome made the Tsins of the Hun the Demons.
But
> those chains are about to break (if they haven't already; we're just > waiting for the ripples to arrive in our local area).
They started a long time ago for me. Trying to keep them from getting out of control. Sword of Light is a metaphysical teaching about using the flow of energy around you, to understand it is to become part of the circuit, to become part of the circuit and have someone tamper with the energy flow of the circuit afterwards just because they think its fun, causes problems. Your full of it, there is no such thing as the energy, shock me prove it exists. It does not work that way, and no one is ever supposed to try. But they do. Come on Prove it shock me, God does not exist he wont slap my teeth out. People are screwed up looking at life backwards, just because they look through the glass does not mean they are inside the house, but you can't tell them that.
> And that is what my visions show. I am aware of the long, drawn out and > brutal history of Xian persecution towards all native people and > non-Xians. And how, then, the cultures mingled, thus began the various > bloodlines that can be traced back to pre-Christian ancestors. > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:32:28 -0900, Azure <t...@faerie.org> wrote:
> >Now I understand you, but don't start from scratch then your just reaching.
Was a family Tree same as Egypt, were Egyptians, driven out after Ackhnotin, Midions after that, then Helains, then Faerie.
Cornwall did go Giant Hunting, and the Templar's did destroy Tara looking for the artifacts.
> chief-thrac...@gay-bible.org wrote: > > Seeing as the Democratic Party has officially declared NO to same-sex > > marriage; seeing as since Clinton signed DOMA in 1996, there has > > clearly been a trail of homophobic policy running through the Dems; > and > > seeing as there is no existing party truly supportive of gay > > marriage/rights:
> > I want to form a new party, and call it: The Party of Athena. And > > members shall be called "Athenians". And our constitution shall > > comprise the BEST of all humane and progressive constitutions that > have > > come before. But with two special conditions: (1) that our party > first > > serves the freedom and needs of all sexual minorities, before > assisting > > any other group (whether persecuted or not), and (2) that our party > > strives to form a new nation just for queers, whether through > secession > > or other means. (Sorta like Holland in a lot of ways...only instead > of > > remaing a heterocentric society, Athenians will form a homocentric > > one.)
> > Athenians are also totally pro-pagan and women's suffrage. In fact, > > that is why "Athena" is my chosen title for this new party. We stand > > for 100% secular government. For more specific examples of what we > > stand for, read my platform for world's first gay president:
> > IOW, my platform is also the party platform. (Anyone who knows how I > > can go about establishing this party for real, I'd appreciate some > > tips! Especially regarding regarding putting me in touch with > > interested or curious persons of influence. No men, or women--or > > trannies for that matter--in white coats and butterfly nets, thank > you > > very much!)
> > Let this message be for the (unofficial) record: that I, Ezekiel J. > > Krahlin of San Francisco, California, am the true founder of the > "Party > > of Athena". Now, to post this to diverse newsgroups...just another > busy > > day in the life of a queer deadbeat. :D
-- As those smarmy little wrist-flicking newsgroup fudge packers love to say: "Toodles!" Zeke Krahlin, Jehovah's Queer Witness http://www.gay-bible.org
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