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David Dalton
Jan 21, 2012, 10:48:34 PM1/21/12
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I believe I have the ability to sense soul (or spirit).
I propose a test of this ability. A closed box either
containing a human or containing nothing could be placed
in front of me (or the human or nothing could be behind
a closed door) and I should be able to detect which is
which reliably over a number of cases.
For now I will start testing the ability a bit on my
own and only if I am then confident I reliably and
consistently have the ability will I try to set up
the above test.
If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
I propose a test of this ability. A closed box either
containing a human or containing nothing could be placed
in front of me (or the human or nothing could be behind
a closed door) and I should be able to detect which is
which reliably over a number of cases.
For now I will start testing the ability a bit on my
own and only if I am then confident I reliably and
consistently have the ability will I try to set up
the above test.
If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
Tom
Jan 21, 2012, 11:31:03 PM1/21/12
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On Jan 21, 7:48 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> I believe I have the ability to sense soul (or spirit).
>
> I propose a test of this ability. A closed box either
> containing a human or containing nothing could be placed
> in front of me (or the human or nothing could be behind
> a closed door) and I should be able to detect which is
> which reliably over a number of cases.
What you're doing is very similar to people who claim to be able to
> I believe I have the ability to sense soul (or spirit).
>
> I propose a test of this ability. A closed box either
> containing a human or containing nothing could be placed
> in front of me (or the human or nothing could be behind
> a closed door) and I should be able to detect which is
> which reliably over a number of cases.
see (or otherwise sense) an aura. Here's one that James Randi did,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZeQGld5QBU
David Dalton
Jan 22, 2012, 2:34:52 AM1/22/12
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In article
<c299f0a9-ca5d-48a0...@lr19g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
I don't yet claim to be able to distinguish one person
from another by their soul.
Years ago I went through a period when I saw coloured
auras around people but these were much closer to
the body than what I now call soul or spirit
But thanks Tom for that interesting video link and
indeed a similar setup could be used to test me
only with the places either having a human in
them or being empty.
But again I haven't yet demonstrated to myself that
I have this ability for sure, and I want to make
some tests on my own before I subject myself to
any scientific test.
<c299f0a9-ca5d-48a0...@lr19g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
from another by their soul.
Years ago I went through a period when I saw coloured
auras around people but these were much closer to
the body than what I now call soul or spirit
But thanks Tom for that interesting video link and
indeed a similar setup could be used to test me
only with the places either having a human in
them or being empty.
But again I haven't yet demonstrated to myself that
I have this ability for sure, and I want to make
some tests on my own before I subject myself to
any scientific test.
Sylvia Else
Jan 22, 2012, 5:55:56 AM1/22/12
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On 22/01/2012 2:48 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
> help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
> to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
> gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
How will you determine that your threshold for detection is a fully
> If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
> help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
> to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
> gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
human soul, and not a partial one?
How would the outcome of the experiment be expected to differ if the
aquisition of a soul is gradual rather than sudden?
Sylvia.
Hieronymous707
Jan 22, 2012, 6:11:42 AM1/22/12
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Sylvia Else
Jan 22, 2012, 7:06:37 AM1/22/12
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Sylvia.
Hieronymous707
Jan 22, 2012, 7:14:17 AM1/22/12
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thinking.
Sylvia Else
Jan 22, 2012, 7:22:23 AM1/22/12
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Sylvia.
Hieronymous707
Jan 22, 2012, 7:40:20 AM1/22/12
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where it doesn't belong. In my own defense though I would hasten to
add slowly that at least one can't get pregnant from my appearing nosy
with respect to women's privates issues and whatnot. Angel likes my
private nosings. So you know, we will be closing in on ending this.
Dismiss it if you can because [I pause] I'm just one man whose nose
suppose to be here between your [...] kneed I say your ears?
Hieronymous707
Jan 22, 2012, 9:41:28 AM1/22/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Mystical, Miss Tickle's place is
where linguistic type and spaces
represent both smiles and faces;
tongues in cheeks no more withstanding
men, despite their bites demanding
consequence of tensions mounting.
One, two, three - Some come while counting.
Miss Tickle demands her due too;
eloquence of mention through you.
Though I've known such feat of mention
relative to Hi [...] Per tension,
feet may meet what's paved by walking.
Tongues, perhaps, aren't just for talking.
That Flacco Fool's got Fu Manchu
All on his face Now I do too
To show my faith with facial hair
To those who doubt I shout I care
About the outcome dumbly quiet
Lest such mustache cause a riot
Ridden here while the world watches
Wishing mention of their crotch is
Not what got them here and riding
Rhythmically on rhymes colliding
Consciously You see a Young like
Passer backing On his tongue Hike!
George152
Jan 22, 2012, 2:16:50 PM1/22/12
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Any time wasted on this will never be regained
David Dalton
Jan 22, 2012, 7:37:42 PM1/22/12
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In article <9o289t...@mid.individual.net>,
human soul, as big and strong as the mother's,
but I could be wrong, and if so hope to be able
to detect that.
> How would the outcome of the experiment be expected to differ if the
> aquisition of a soul is gradual rather than sudden?
The experiment would involve regular checks, ideally even
every day, from conception on, and if the acquisition
is gradual I should be able to detect that.
Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/01/2012 2:48 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
> > help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
> > to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
> > gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
>
> How will you determine that your threshold for detection is a fully
> human soul, and not a partial one?
Well, I expect there to be a sudden jump to a fully
> On 22/01/2012 2:48 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
> > help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
> > to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
> > gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
>
> How will you determine that your threshold for detection is a fully
> human soul, and not a partial one?
human soul, as big and strong as the mother's,
but I could be wrong, and if so hope to be able
to detect that.
> How would the outcome of the experiment be expected to differ if the
> aquisition of a soul is gradual rather than sudden?
every day, from conception on, and if the acquisition
is gradual I should be able to detect that.
David Dalton
Jan 22, 2012, 7:41:39 PM1/22/12
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In article
<69e6df41-44b3-42b6...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
Well, if a woman chooses to exercise control over her
own body and have an abortion then it can be a
releasing and empowering choice for her, and I
think if a fetus with a fully human soul is killed
then the soul will be swiftly reincarnated, not
lost to any supposed hellfire.
<69e6df41-44b3-42b6...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
own body and have an abortion then it can be a
releasing and empowering choice for her, and I
think if a fetus with a fully human soul is killed
then the soul will be swiftly reincarnated, not
lost to any supposed hellfire.
Tom
Jan 22, 2012, 7:58:05 PM1/22/12
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On Jan 21, 11:34 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>
> I don't yet claim to be able to distinguish one person
> from another by their soul.
Well, that should make the test even easier. All you have to do is
>
> I don't yet claim to be able to distinguish one person
> from another by their soul.
show that you can tell when a person is or is not behind some
partition significantly better than half the time. The tricky part is
to arrange things so that you don't get any secondary clues, such as
shadows or noises that might tip yo0u off, even subconsciously.
> But again I haven't yet demonstrated to myself that
> I have this ability for sure, and I want to make
> some tests on my own before I subject myself to
> any scientific test.
Tom
Jan 22, 2012, 8:08:52 PM1/22/12
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On Jan 22, 11:16 am, George152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>
> > What you're doing is very similar to people who claim to be able to
> > see (or otherwise sense) an aura. Here's one that James Randi did,
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZeQGld5QBU
>
> Yup. Been proven to not work.
I wouldn't go so far as to declare it "proven", but the results of
>
> > What you're doing is very similar to people who claim to be able to
> > see (or otherwise sense) an aura. Here's one that James Randi did,
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZeQGld5QBU
>
> Yup. Been proven to not work.
responsibly done experiments surely weigh heavier on the side of that
interpretation. At least so far.
Another interesting experiment was conducted by Linda and Emily Rosa
and published in the Journal of the Amarican Medical Association,
which examined the claim of therapeutic touch practitioners that they
were able to detect the presence or absence of a living hand by
sensing its "human energy field". This seems very close to what David
wishes to test. Perhaps he could use this model.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/279/13/1005.full
> Any time wasted on this will never be regained
Sylvia Else
Jan 22, 2012, 9:10:42 PM1/22/12
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On 23/01/2012 11:37 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> In article<9o289t...@mid.individual.net>,
> Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 22/01/2012 2:48 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>
>>> If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
>>> help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
>>> to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
>>> gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
>>
>> How will you determine that your threshold for detection is a fully
>> human soul, and not a partial one?
>
> Well, I expect there to be a sudden jump to a fully
> human soul, as big and strong as the mother's,
> but I could be wrong, and if so hope to be able
> to detect that.
>
>> How would the outcome of the experiment be expected to differ if the
>> aquisition of a soul is gradual rather than sudden?
>
> The experiment would involve regular checks, ideally even
> every day, from conception on, and if the acquisition
> is gradual I should be able to detect that.
>
It's pure speculation. You may be completely insensitive to souls until
> In article<9o289t...@mid.individual.net>,
> Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 22/01/2012 2:48 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>
>>> If the ability is proven I hope to determine with the
>>> help of volunteer pregnant women when a fetus comes
>>> to have a fully human soul and whether this occurs
>>> gradually or (as I think) suddenly.
>>
>> How will you determine that your threshold for detection is a fully
>> human soul, and not a partial one?
>
> Well, I expect there to be a sudden jump to a fully
> human soul, as big and strong as the mother's,
> but I could be wrong, and if so hope to be able
> to detect that.
>
>> How would the outcome of the experiment be expected to differ if the
>> aquisition of a soul is gradual rather than sudden?
>
> The experiment would involve regular checks, ideally even
> every day, from conception on, and if the acquisition
> is gradual I should be able to detect that.
>
they reach some threshold, after which you feel them in the same way as
you feel the soul of an adult.
Essentially, you have two unknowns, one being whether or not souls
arrive gradually, and the other being whether or not your sensitivity is
all or nothing. Before you can reach any conclusions, you need to be
able to separate those variables. Good luck with that.
Sylvia.
Sylvia Else
Jan 22, 2012, 9:13:10 PM1/22/12
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assume that the subject believed that it did work prior to the
experiment, we have at least one example of someone who was deluding
themselves about this.
I'm strongly inclined to the view that the latter is true of the OP, but
it hasn't yet been proved.
Sylvia.
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