There are many psychological ways to spread falsehood, and I have seen
many of them on display on these groups. The one that I see the most
here is known as The Big Lie.

The theory behind the Big Lie technique started with Hitler. He said
to the effect of, if you repeat a lie enough times, people believe it.
The most pernicious form of the Big Lie technique is stating
consistently the precise opposite of what is true. Call a genius an
idiot - call an altruist a narcissist - call someone who loves women a
misogynist - claim outdated technology to be progress and better
technologies to be stagnation - claim that Bush people were liberals
or that Reagan's war on drugs was caused by the Democrats - portray
the people who recognize scientific reality as fools and liars and the
people who consistently deny scientific reality, even as they benefit
from science daily, as honest, rational and responsible men.

The Big Lie technique works by sowing confusion. When something is
claimed aggressively that is the precise opposite of reality, then it
is harder to argue with than something that is simply different from
reality. What is under attack here is the person's mind. Like all
forms of deception, the Big Lie technique is best dealt with by
recognizing that what is being used is in fact a Big Lie and seeing
through it. The more people understand this, the less becomes the
effectiveness of the Big Lie technique.

On Feb 2, 10:47 pm, Ilya Shambat <ibsham...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a recipe for pecan pie.

On Feb 3, 1:47 pm, Ilya Shambat <ibsham...@gmail.com> wrote:

e.g. Ewe have convinced yourself through lying to yourself that ewe
understand Ayn Rand.

MG

On Feb 3, 12:26 pm, Michael Gordge <mikegor...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

That now makes two of ewe. Ewe can start a political party.

Aynal retentavists?

Even your own newsletter!

The Aynal probe?

The Big Lie was most effective in politics and marketing especially on
those too busy with their private lives to be focused and spend some
time thinking critically about the conflicts of interest involved.
They hear the Big Lie enough to think maybe there's some truth to it
and if the truth doesn't have Citizen's United amounts of money to
match the Big Lie they buy cigarettes, diet pills, crankcase additives
and vote GOP.

The Big Lie doesn't work here as any functional person can monkey
wrench it with links and even more with basic logic to force the would
be fascists into dodging issues and playing specious word games.  The
Big Lie will soon be gone altogether as the conventional media
continue to lose market share to HuffPo, bloggers, etc.

Bret Cahill

       Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Jews tell big lies. The
Jewish media took his words out of context and claimed that Hitler was
in favor of big lies. This was in itself a big lie and proof that
Hitler was right. Here is what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf and in
context:

     "But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity
for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute
responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had
shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the
catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that
hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for
the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took
away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous
enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the
Fatherland to justice. All this was inspired by the principle--which
is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain
force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always
more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature
than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity
of their minds they are more readily fall victims to the big lie than
the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little
matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It
would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and
they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort
truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so
may be brought clearly to their minds, they still doubt and waver and
will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For
the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it
has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in
this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These
people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest
purposes.
     "From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than
any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their
very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a
religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a
race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has
branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and
exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew 'The Great Master of
Lies'. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not
wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth
to prevail."

http://www.ihr.org/     http://www.natvan.com  

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com    

On Feb 7, 6:52 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:

   You are a Nazi.

   As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.

  You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know
you can not measure up.

   You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
betters.

   You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
tell it.

   You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National
Socialism.

   Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
Freedom of choice terrifies you... which is why you choose minor
children as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent
adults in a consensually sexual
way.  You need to be able to impose yourself on a helpless victim, be
it a prepubescent
boy, or a patient in a mental hospital.

   That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or
honest about it.

Michael

  Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not
yet know Marxism well enough to foresee the possible consequences. I
shrugged my shoulders as I read the dark prose of the red press and
awaited expectantly the decisive evening.
Around 8 p.m. we drove in an old rusty car from the city center to
Wedding. A cold gray mist hung under a starless sky. Our hearts were
bursting with impatience and expectation.
As we drove down Müllerstraße it was already clear that the evening
did not bode well. Groups of dark figures stood on every street
corner. They apparently planned to teach our party members a bloody
lesson before they even got to the meeting.

Dark masses of people stood outside the Pharus Hall, expressing their
rage and hate with loud and impudent threats.

The leader of the protective forces cleared a way for us and reported
briefly that the hall had been packed since 7:15 p.m. and had been
closed by police. About two-thirds of the audience were Red Front
Fighters. That was what we wanted. There would be a decision. We were
ready to give it all we had.

Entering the hall, we encountered a warm, stiffling aroma of beer and
tobacco. The hall was hot. A lively roar of voices filled the hall.
People were packed in tightly. We reached the podium only with
difficulty.

No sooner was I recognized than hundreds of voices filled with rage
and revenge thundered in my ears: "Bloodhound! Murder of Workers!"
Those were the mildest words they shouted. But a welcoming group of
some party members and S.A. Men answered with passion. Excited battle
cries sounded from the platform. I saw immediately that we were a
minority, but a minority determined to fight, and therefore win.

It was still our custom then for an S.A. leader to chair all of the
party's public meetings. Here too. Tall as a tree he stood up front
and asked for silence with his upraised arm. That was easier said than
done. Mocking laughter was the answer. Insults flew toward the
platform from every corner of the room. People growled and screamed
and raged. There were world revolutionaries scattered about who
apparently had gained the courage they needed by drinking. It was
impossible to quiet the hall. The class-conscious proletariat had not
come to discuss but to fight, to break things up, to put an end to the
Fascist specter with callused workers' fists.

We were not uncertain, even for a moment. We also knew that if the
enemy did not succeed this time in what he had threatened, the future
success of the movement in Berlin was assured.

Fifteen or twenty S.A. and S.S. men stood before the platform in
uniforms and arm bands, an impudent and direct provocation to the Red
Front Fighters. Behind me was a select group of reliable people ready
at any moment to risk their lives to defend me from the onrushing red
mob with brutal force.
The Communists made an obvious mistake in their tactics. They had
scattered small groups throughout the hall, but clumped most of the
rest in the right rear of the hall. I recognized immediately that
there was the center of unrest, and if anything was to be done, we
first had to deal ruthlessly with them. Whenever the chair tried to
open the meeting, a dark chap stood up on a stool and shouted "Point
of Order!" Hundreds of others yelled the same after him.

If one takes from the mass their leader or also their seducer, they
are leaderless and easily controlled. Our tactic therefore was to
silence this cowardly troublemaker at any cost. He felt secure back
there, surrounded by his comrades. We tried to do this peacefully a
few times. The chair shouted over the uproar: "There will be
discussion afterward! But we determine the rules of order!"

That was an ineffective attempt at an unsuitable object. The screamer
wanted to throw the meeting into confusion by his endless shouts and
bring things to the boiling point. Then a general melee would result.

As our efforts to bring the meeting to order peacefully proved
unsuccessful, I took the head of the defensive forces to the side, and
immediately after groups of his men slipped through the thundering
Communist masses. Before the astonished and surprised Red Front troops
realized what was happening, our comrades had hauled the troublemaker
down from his stool and brought him through the raging crowd to the
podium. That was unexpected, but what followed was no surprise. A beer
glass flew through the air and crashed to the floor. That was the
signal for the first major meeting hall battle. Chairs were broken and
legs ripped from tables. Glasses and bottles suddenly appeared and all
hell broke loose. The battle raged for ten minutes. Glasses, bottles,
table and chair legs flew randomly through the air. A deafening roar
rose; the red beast was set free and wanted its victims.

At first it looked as if we were lost. The Communist attack was sudden
and explosive, completely unexpected. But soon the S.A. and S.S. men
distributed throughout the hall and in front of the platform recovered
from their surprise and counterattacked with bold courage. It quickly
became clear that although the Communist Party had masses behind it,
these masses became cowards when faced with a firmly disciplined and
determined opponent. They ran. In short order the red mob that had
come to break up our meeting had been driven from the hall. The order
that could not be secured by good will was gained by brute force.

Usually one is not aware of the stages of a meeting hall battle. Only
later does one recall them. I still remember a scene that I will never
forget; on the podium stood a young S.A. man whom I did not know. He
was hurling his missiles into the on-coming red mob. Suddenly a beer
glass thrown from the distance hit him on the head. A wide stream of
blood ran down his face. He sank with a cry. After a few seconds he
stood up again, grabbed water bottle from the table and threw it into
the hall, where it clattered against the head of an opponent.

The face of this young man is engraved in my memory. This
lightening-fast moment is unforgettable. This gravely-wounded S.A. man
would soon, and indeed for all times, become my most reliable and
loyal comrade.

Only after the red mob had been driven howling, growling and cursing
from the field could one tell how serious and costly the battle had
been. Ten lay in their blood on the platform, most with head injuries,
two with severe concussions. The table and stairs to the platform were
covered in blood. The whole hall resembled a field of ruins.

In the midst of this bloody and ruined wasteland, our tree-high S.A.
leader resumed his place and declared with iron calm: "The meeting
will continue. The speaker has the floor."

Never before or since have I spoken under such dramatic conditions.
Behind me, groaning in pain and bleeding, were seriously injured S.A.
comrades. Around me were broken chair legs, shattered beer glasses and
blood. The whole meeting was icily silent.
We lacked then a medical corps. Since we were in a proletarian
district, we had to have our seriously wounded carried out by
so-called worker volunteers. There were scenes outdoors of
unimaginable inhumanity. The bestial people who were supposedly
fighting for universal brotherhood insulted our poor and defenseless
injured with phases like: "Isn't that pig dead yet?"

Under such conditions it was impossible to give a coherent speech.
Scarcely had I begun to speak when another group of volunteers entered
the hall to carry off a seriously wounded S.A. man on a stretcher. One
of them, encountering the brutal apostles of humanity outside the door
and their unflattering and crude language, shouted for me in
desperation. His voice could be heard loudly and unmistakably on the
platform I interrupted my speech and went through the hall, where
there were still scattered Communist commando groups. Still surprised
by what had happened, they stood quietly and shyly to the side. I bade
farewell to the seriously wounded S.A. comrades.

http://www.ihr.org/     http://www.natvan.com  

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com    

On Feb 3, 12:51 pm, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:

There is an abundance of  "Big Lies." Witness:

God is Good
Mother Earth is Infinite
Deforestation is Falsity
Human Animals Are Better Than Non-Human Animals
Liberals and Conservatives Are Different
Humanistic Species-ism is the Superior Philosophy
Immigration is a Benefit
The RCC Is Benevolent
Islam is a Religion of Peace
Capitalism is the Best Alternative.

There are manys'-maw'.

On Feb 2, 11:47 pm, Ilya Shambat <ibsham...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well YEea.
what you describe is the most effective technique of the Democrat
Party.  Or maybe Republicans really DO want to throw Granny into a
lake?  I mean, they are not human at all...right?  Meanies who only
want the rich to get richer [never mind economic incentives].  Or
maybe Dems tell us they can 'tax' us into prosperity.  "Spend, spend,
spend...all the way to the moon and back", a Dem might say.  They have
a money tree called the federal reserve.  "Hell, we'll make it 'rain'
up in here".

On Feb 2, 11:47 pm, Ilya Shambat <ibsham...@gmail.com> wrote:

All of this was characterized by Orwell in "1984." Believing that
2 + 2 + 5---if the Party said 2+2 =5---was the Big True. If the Party
said 2+2 = 17, then so it was. Look at the lies of Newt:

"I was an historian for Fannie Mae."
"I was never a lobbyist."
"I wasn't elligible for the draft."

On they go; instead of being booed off the stage, the Big
Liar is applauded. Thus, is the story of Loot God-rich.

The same pattern can be sketched for Richie Sanitorium,
and Migg Glob-nee as well as BHO et.al.

On Feb 4, 4:51 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:

They also vote democrat and vote independent or do not vote at all
Bret.
When you work that out, you might wake up and realise you are holding
onto the very same stick as the GOP are.

On Feb 10, 9:20 am, Lanskee Shuru <sugarlansk...@gmail.com> wrote:

You forgot .. Change we can believe in - and Yes We Can

All Americans are full of it and self-deluded fools!

Navy Team 6 are courageous hereos who murder unarmed men.

Everyone shits on their own Constitution and the rule of Law while
imagining you're the saviours of the freedom and liberty and justice
in the world.

When all you really have is Ideological Idiocracy with big Guns, big
Egos, massive WMD and even bigger Lies

On Feb 9, 6:47 pm, Santim Vah <sean.arund...@gmail.com> wrote:

Then why the f*** does everyone want to come here?  Go hijack someone
elses airlines and crash it into someone elses ass...I'm all for old
world autarky, protectionism, and isolationism...let the rest of the
world go fuck themselves, who cares.  A moratorium sabbatical at least
until we can sort things out; get a grip on who we are again before we
kick all them Latino La Raza America haters out...along with the
marxists, socialists, degenerates...Sheesh...I'm soundling just like a
new world Fascist now aren't I, hehe.  Wouldn't it be nice if the
world were so simple [again].

Don't worry.  The Republican Party is doomed [me along with it as a
traditional white male].  No one is gonna kick out 12 to 20 million
illegals, even if they could.  Already, repubs may not be able to
DEMOGRAPHICALLY win a general election.  They'll have to change and
kick out the white people...the tea partiers, the Palin addicts, the
Gingrich acolytes, the Reagan worshipers, the Hannitized faction, the
Limbaugh Legions...they'll all have to be disowned to cater to a NEW
rising majority found in the coalition of women, blacks, jews, asians,
gays, and hispanics.  It's the hispanics and all that migrating horde
across our southern borders that has TILTED the machine of course [in
favor of Democrats cum marxist radicals].  RINO...will be the new
order; just Democrat-lite.  The party cannot survive any other way.

Democrats sold this nation down the tubes some time ago I'm afraid.
My FASCIST longings are just fantasies now; my way of dealing with the
despair of watching my country go down in flames.  Hell, if someone
actually handed me real power, I'd piss in my pants from fright. It is
just hard to accept what has happened; to see white women vacate the
fort's stalwart bulkhead walls in droves...heading for black penis.
May the devil's pox come down upon their heads.  Of course, as this
world's justice goes, that pox has already come down upon mine.  Oh
well...stiff upper lip and all.  I suppose the torture and suffering
cannot last forever, now can it?

On Feb 10, 11:40 am, tooly <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

RE Then why the f*** does everyone want to come here?

Well Tolly that's an easy one. They belive your own propaganda about
how great the American Dream you dudes have been selling for decades
when really it's just another BS Infomercial by a conman.

IOW it's Amercia's own Big Lie that attracts people .. that and try
living in Mexico ... funded by American crack whores and ntheir pimps
whilst outlaw paramilitiary make a killing selling them automatic
weapons and rocket propelled grenades ... that Reagan for his Big Lies
about Nicaragua and Arms for Iranian Hostages BS, thank Bush 1 & 2 for
their Big Lies ... thanks the US Congress for supporting a fucking
toruring tyant liek the Shah whcih gave you the Ayatollah .. and for
christs sake thank the nazi zxionists for all their BIG LIES that
generationaftyer generation have swallowed whole even though the lies
are as big as a blue whale.

Yep, go look in the mirror all the way back to the 40's and the
Vietnam War BIG LIES .. then folow the pattern thru to abu graib
torture, and *proof* othat Iraq has WMD and all that shit .. christ
man .. are you really that unconscience all you see is hispanics
destroying uur nation when its always been the friggin whities with
all the $$$$$$$$$$ ... dumb as dirt.   You guys were fucked over long
ago ... by both the GOP and the DEMs and you keep bending over for
more ... and yet STILL it;s ok for a rogue racist tyrannical regime
like Israel to suck you dry, spend billions upon billions giving them
fucking aid, the rich bastards, and you idiot taxpayers coughing up $$$
$$ on fixing the damage caused by them all with your prior ok ...
jesus christ ... wake up.

nah, u think otherwise .. ahem , yeah right. <shaking my head>

Regards,
Mr I am Too Smart

which proves that I am NOT an American

On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:

   The Nazi nithings lost that one.

   They were obvious in 1946.

   You are a nithing- homo sapiens by birth, subhuman BY CHOICE. The
key word is CHOICE. You were born with the same human nature as the
rest of us. Your CHOICES made you a nithing.

   Bill explains what nithings are.

   http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=9446

Define and Dehumanize the Enemy: Jihadists as Nithings or Nidings

by Bill Levinson
It is an ancient principle of magic (which modern people recognize as
stories that reflect a society’s culture and psychology) that
knowledge of a person’s real or True Name delivers power over that
person. What it really means is that, if you know the person’s
psychology, you can gain an advantage over him. It is also well known
that the side that controls the language of an argument controls the
argument. As an example, Hamas terrorists and their enablers refer to
Israel’s military as an “occupation force” and terrorisitic violence
against civilians as “resistance.”

We have long sought a single word that strips the enemy of all
humanity, and reduces him to something less than an animal that is
worthy of nothing less than extermination. As far as we know, the
English language contains no such word, although “dreck” (garbage or
refuse) comes close. “Homo sapiens by BIRTH, subhuman by CHOICE”
describes Islamic supremacists perfectly, but it is a phrase and not a
word. We now propose to refer to Islamic supremacists as nithings or
nidings: a Scandinavian word that strips its object of all humanity.
Webster’s dictionary (1913) defines it as “A coward; a dastard; — a
term of utmost opprobrium.”

We remind readers who object to the dehumanization of Islamic
supremacists that those enemies are already attempting to dehumanize
Jews, and to a lesser degree Christians, with images that could have
come directly from Adolf Hitler. As they have chosen to sow the
dragon’s teeth, our position is that they must now reap their rightful
harvest: the complete hatred and loathing of all civilized human
beings.
nithings

Nithing or niding was more than a common insult, because Scandinavian
culture required its subject to fight a duel with the accuser or
become an outlaw: totally devoid of rights, honor, and even
recognition as a human being. Per the Wikipedia entry,

      The actual meaning of the adjective argr or ragr [= Anglo-Saxon
earg] was the nature or appearance of effeminacy, especially by
obscene acts. Argr was the worst, most derogatory swearword of all
known to the Norse language. According to Icelandic law, the accused
was expected to kill the accuser at once. …If the accused did not
retort by violent attack yielding either the accuser to take his words
back or the accuser’s death, he was hence proven to be a weak and
cowardly nithing by not retorting accordingly.

A nithing was devoid of all human rights, and he was considered the
enemy of civilized humanity: a perfect depiction of Islamic
supremacists. The word therefore strips the enemy of all humanity, and
degrades him to the status of a wolf or strangler (per Scandinavian
tradition) or a virulent disease like the Black Plague. Black Plague
is a deadly and contagious disease whose vector consists of plague-
carrying rats, while the Green Plague of militant “Islam” is a deadly
and contagious ideology that is spread by bipedal rats: nidings or
nithings, non-humans that raise violent hands to all of civilized
Humanity.

      The immediate consequence of being proven a nithing was
outlawing. The outlawed did not have any rights, he was exlex (Latin
for “outside of the legal system”), in Anglo-Saxon utlah, Middle Low
German uutlagh, Old Norse utlagr. Just as feud yielded enmity among
kinships, outlawry yielded enmity of all humanity.[63] …”Yet that is
but one aspect of outlawry. The outlaw is not only expelled from the
kinship, he is also regarded henceforth as an enemy to mankind.”

The actual definition of a nithing is somewhat more involved and
complex, and it gets into sexual perversions and zoomorphical
transformations (Loki’s transformation of himself into a mare to have
sexual intercourse with a stallion, and thus beget Odin’s horse
Sleipner is probably an example), but the following line is pertinent:
“The nithing used its malicious seid magic to destroy anything owned
and made by man, ultimately the human race and Midgard itself[6], due
to its basically unlimited envy, hate, and malice that were nith.”

“Destruction of everything owned and made by Man” (the Palestinians’
destruction of the greenhouses in Gaza comes to mind immediately) and
“unlimited envy, hate, and malice” describe militant “Islam”
perfectly, and further underscore the application of nithing or niding
to describe it. The propensity for mindless destruction also appears
in Orson Scott Card’s Alvin Maker series, in which a supernatural
enemy is known as the Unmaker: a personification of evil that is the
total antithesis of God the Creator.

      The Unmaker is the main antagonist in Orson Scott Card’s
alternate history/fantasy series The Tales of Alvin Maker. Never
directly confronted, it is a supernatural force that breaks apart
matter and aims to destroy and consume everything and everyone. …To
make something is to oppose the Unmaker, but a point often made is
that this is futile. By natural law the Unmaker can tear down faster
than any man can build.

This also is an outstanding definition of militant “Islam” or Islamic
supremacy: an ideology that seeks to destroy everything into which it
comes in contact, and with which no reason, negotiation, or compromise
is possible.

In summary, a nithing or niding is the enemy of Civilization, a
subhuman (through its behavioral choices, and emphatically NOT due to
its racial or ethnic origin) monster with total hatred and malice
toward all human industry and arts, and worthy of nothing but
extermination like any virulent disease. This is the word we will now
apply to Islamic supremacists and their enablers, and we encourage
others to do likewise.

On Feb 10, 1:43 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Interesting.  Nithing or niding does not carry good Onomatopoeia
however; its 'je ne sais quoi' is a bit lacking IMHO.
But the idea is conscious raising to see how language can be
weaponized.

Still, the purpose of language is NOT to create objects, but to
explain objects and their nature.  Inventing 'reality' from concepts
is a fool's errand IMHO.  Still, critical theory I surmise, has
theorized greatly on such influences of language [and literature in
general] as one method of 'conquest' and 'change'.  It is one reason
why Saul Alinsky-like tactics are so 'UNHUMAN' in themselves, for they
work to put a pale over normal dynamics of 'reason and logic' to
become macheavellian in nature; and invoke only suspicion of being
manipulated.

Can one be dehumanized by 'words' alone however?  Or does it take real
acts by the object in question, where things like conscience must be
left behind, that the object itself is degraded, and thusly the
'necessary' language to describe it?

I have wondered this about serial killers for example.  We use the
term HUMAN with an all inclusive 'broad based stroke' of identity that
relies only on FORM.  Yet, as serial killers surely have lost
something HUMAN, I question if the very word HUMAN BEING still applies
to such 'object' [object here, itself a dehumanization...something
science and OBJECTIVE reason seems pretty adept at].

So, nithing or nidings probably DO exist, but I wonder that if they
can be created by simply pointing fingers and declaring by 'word'?  I
mean, there must be something in the object by which the
IDENTIFICATION is REAL, and not imagined...right?

But then, you speak more toward the 'weaponization' of words I think.
Like propoganda, truth and reality are not even considered [just
inconveniences perhaps], for the real 'object' of manipulating people
for political or social ends.  We ASSOCIATE the object to known
behaviors or traits that we know will repulse people...and wala,
sometimes the labels do stick [politically].  [see the thread on 'the
big lie' technique etc].

As I'm writing, I'm thinking of all sorts of examples of this
'weaponization', or political usage of words.  Women's sexuality used
to be held in constraint for reason of being assigned 'words of ill
repute' if they were promiscius.  Having babies out of wedlock used to
be social suicide of sorts [very damaging], and the 'words' assigned
aking to Scarlet Letters of shame.  A man could be destroyed socially
by shame if declared a Coward by his society.  Remember the guy that
Patton slapped around?

Niding or Nithing...good try, but like I said, it's missing
'something'.  Good old fashioned curse words carry more weight I
think: 'asshole, bastard, dipshit, scumbag,..or the simple use of the
word 'nazi', as the word has been so criminalized over time in the
minds of humans.  I wish the word 'commie' had as much 'moral
eqivalence' in 'sense', because I KNOW communists were cause for far
more human misery and suffering than nazis were last
century...responsible for well over 100 million 'murders' of human
beings [nazis are given credit for about 55 million].  Yet, COMMUNISTS
under the flags of socialists, marxists, liberals, progressives, et.
al. [as some measure of the extreme in differing stages of
'becoming']...are given immunity from the same dehumanization that
nazis are given, and we can even find them as part of our democratic
process [and enjoying some success under new leaders like Obama;
hmm...actually quite a LOT of success].

Nazi's...and all forms of 'their becoming' are politically shunned by
the mainstream [mainly due to WWII and those horrible concentration
camps]. Yet, as a balance on the human spectrum, where some fulcrum
exists that teters the equation at some middle point, the extreme of
either side needs 'counter balance' to keep that fulcrum'd balance
steady.  As we have slipped decidedly on toward the LEFT, that fulcrum
is becoming 'unsteady' to the point of collapsing...and a real 'need'
for the other extreme to show it's head [as ugly as many may think it
to be].

I think it is why we are seeing an upsurge in interest in what many
see as new fascism.  I know this is why my interest is piqued...for I
see my country being STOLEN away, and western civilization being
overrun by radicals and hordes of new immigration that not only have
nothing in common with the foundations, but many who actually HATE the
very lands they now enter.

It makes me wonder what the impetus for nazi-ism actually was back in
the 1930's?  Did good citizen conservatives see also then, a rising
'radical' insemination of 'anti-civilization' taking place through
'intellectualism' and 'academia', infecting the population with ideas
of revolution [insurrective]?  The good cowboy sees when the cattle
are restless, and then works, by whatever means necessary, to
'control' that herd back to sereness and tranquility.  Maybe the NAZI
was simply a REACTION to an ACTION already taken, in the name of karl
Marx.

Maybe the nazi became, in time, this nithing or niding you suggest.
But in his initial intent, perhaps he only wished to protect the
highest ideals of human kind, the best, brightest, and most noble,
which he saw being put asunder by the amassing scurge from the
'east' [at that time].  I think this was prehaps true to some extent,
making the term niding or nithing less descriptive of the reality.

Today, that rising 'scurge' is all around us.
hmm...see...'scurge'...another dehumanizing political word, ha.  But I
would argue, a 'real' connect of IDENTITY of this object [unlike your
suggestion of creating things out of thin air]...where those like
George Soros and 'occpy wall street' ner-do-wells ARE real, true,
bonafide 'scumbags' who only want to destroy all this is good and holy
about Western Civilization [to bring about the same marxist ideal that
Hitler saw behind 'herd' disturbances in his time].

And finally, I suppose it all depends upon what side you are on too as
far who gets dehumanized.  I'm not a nazi...but I do HATE
communists...and everything they stand for, their tactics, their lies
to the people, and how they INFECT the population to inspire
insurrection and destruction of everything 'good and noble' about REAL
humankind.  To protect things like the FAMILY [Marx wanted to destroy
that remember], maybe it means HUMANITY showing its tooth and fangs
and claws to those who would defile and corner it for utopian insanity
that can never work.  If THAT were the truer nature of what the nazi
IS, would he still be that nithing or niding?  Or maybe just God's
lightning bolt of repursussion for those who have gone off the human
reservation en masse?

Ah well; who knows.

On Feb 9, 6:47 pm, Santim Vah <sean.arund...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is time for Animal-Rights Atheism to guide the
Globe but the Globe wants only more:

Deforestation
Overpopulation
Housing starts
Walmarts
Faux Humanism
Religious strife
Torture and murder of non-human animals.

It's along list. Can we not see through our own
doublethink? No, that's why it is called
doublethink. Maybe we can stop the
name-calling. My have been guilty
of it. No more.

On Feb 11, 4:58 am, Lanskee Shuru <sugarlansk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ewe've been sold a bad batch again, demand a refund.

MG

Obviously losing the war didn't prove they were wrong. It only proved
they were outnumbered. Compare the size of Germany to the size of the
Jewish controlled countries, the USA and the USSR. Hitler made Germany
great. Of course the Jew parasites couldn't stand that. Unfortunately
the bad side won the war.

 An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, January 21, 1945
The Creators of the World's Misfortunes
by Joseph Goebbels

One could not understand this war if one did not always keep in mind
the fact that International Jewry stands behind all the unnatural
forces that our united enemies use to attempt to deceive the world and
keep humanity in the dark. It is so to speak the mortar that holds the
enemy coalition firmly together, despite its differences of class,
ideology and interests. Capitalism and Bolshevism have the same Jewish
roots, two branches of the same tree that in the end bear the same
fruit. International Jewry uses both in its own way to suppress the
nations and keep them in its service. How deep its influence on public
opinion is in all the enemy countries and many neutral nations is
plain to see that it may never be named in newspapers, speeches and
radio broadcasts. There is a law in the Soviet Union that punishes
anti-Semitism - or in plain English, public education about the Jewish
Question - by death. The expert in these matters is in no way
surprised that a leading spokesman for the Kremlin said over the New
Year that the Soviet Union would not rest until this law was valid
throughout the world. In other words, the enemy clearly says that its
goal in this war is to put the total domination of Jewry over the
nations of the earth under legal protection, and to threaten even a
discussion of this shameful attempt with the death penalty.

It is little different in the plutocratic nations. There the struggle
against the impudent usurpation of the Jewish race is not punished by
the executioner, rather by death through economic and social boycott
and by intellectual terror. This has the same effect in the end.
Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt were made by the Jewry. They enjoy its
full support and reward it with their full protection. They present
themselves in their speeches as upright men of civil courage, yet one
never hears even a word against the Jews, even though there is growing
hatred among their people as a result of this war, a hatred that is
fully justified. Jewry is a tabu theme in the enemy countries. It
stands outside every legal boundary and thus becomes the tyrant of its
host peoples. While enemy soldiers fight, bleed and die at the front,
the Jews make money from their sacrifice on the stock exchanges and
black markets. If a brave man dares to step forward and accuse the
Jews of their crimes, he will be mocked and spat on by their press,
chased from his job or otherwise impoverished, and be brought into
public contempt. Even that is apparently not enough for the Jews. They
want to bring Soviet conditions to the whole world: to give Jewry
absolute power and freedom from prosecution. He who objects or even
debates the matter gets a bullet in the back of his head or an axe
through his neck. There is no worse tyranny than this. This is the
epitome of the public and secret disgrace that Jewry inflicts on the
nations that deserve freedom.

That is all long behind us. Yet it still threatens us in the distance.
We have, it is true, entirely broken the power of the Jews in the
Reich, but they have not given up. They did not rest until they had
mobilized the whole world against us. Since they could no longer
conquer Germany from within, they want to try it from without. Every
Russian, English and American soldier is a mercenary of this world
conspiracy of a parasitic race. Given the current state of the war,
who could still believe that they are fighting and dying at the front
for the national interests of their countries! The nations want a
decent peace, but the Jews are against it. They know that the end of
the war would mean the dawning knowledge of humanity of the unhealthy
role that International Jewry played in preparing for and carrying out
this war. They fear being unmasked, which has in fact become
unavoidable and must inevitably come, just as the day follows the
night. That explains their raging bursts of hatred against us, which
are only the result of their fear and their feelings of inferiority.
They are too eager, and that makes them suspicious. International
Jewry will not succeed in turning this war to its advantage. Things
are already too far along. The hour will come in which all the peoples
of the earth will awake, and the Jews will be the victims. Here too
things can only go so far.

It is an old, often-used method of International Jewry to discredit
education and knowledge about its corrupting nature and drives,
thereby depending on the weaknesses of those people who easily confuse
cause with effect. The Jews are also masters at manipulating public
opinion, which they dominate through their network of news agencies
and press concerns that reaches throughout the world. The pitiful
illusion of a free press is one of the methods they use to stupefy the
publics of enemy lands. If the enemy press is as free as it pretends
to be, let it take an open position, for or against, on the Jewish
Question. It will not do that because it cannot and may not do so. The
Jews love to mock and criticize everything except themselves, although
everyone knows that they are most in need of public criticism. This is
where the so-called freedom of the press in enemy countries ends.
Newspapers, parliaments, statesmen and church leaders must be silent
here. Crimes and vices, filth and corruption are covered by the
blanket of love. The Jews have total control of public opinion in
enemy countries, and he who has that is also master of all of public
life. Only the nations that have to accept such a condition are to be
pitied. The Jews mislead them into believing that the German nation is
backward. Our alleged backwardness is actually proof of our progress.
We have recognized the Jews as a national and international danger,
and from this knowledge have drawn compelling conclusions. This German
knowledge will become the knowledge of he world at the end of this
war. We think it our primary duty to do everything in our power to
make that happen.

Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull
and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war. They are the
incarnation of that destructive force that in these terrible years has
guided the enemy war leadership in a fight against all that we see as
noble, beautiful and worth keeping. For that reason alone the Jews
hate it. They despite our culture and learning, which they perceive as
towering over their nomadic worldview. They fear our economic and
social standards, which leave no room for their parasitic drives, They
are the enemy of our domestic order, which has excluded their
anarchistic tendencies. Germany is the first nation in the world that
is entirely free of the Jews. That is the prime cause of its political
and economic balance. Since their expulsion from the German national
body has made it impossible for them to shake this balance from
within, they lead the nations they have deceived in battle against us
from without. It is fine with them, in fact it is part of their plan,
that Europe in the process will lose a large part of its cultural
values. The Jews had no part in their creation. They do not understand
them. A deep racial instinct tells them that since these heights of
human creative activity are forever out of their reach, they must
attack them today with hatred. The day is not distant when the nations
of Europe, yes, even those of the whole world, will shout: The Jews
are guilty for all our misfortunes! They must be called to account,
and soon and thoroughly!
International Jewry is ready with its alibi. Just as during the great
reckoning in Germany, they will attempt to look innocent and say that
one needs a scapegoat, and they are it. But that will no longer help
them, just as it did not help them during the National Socialist
revolution, The proof of their historical guilt, in details large and
small, is so plain that they can no longer be denied even with the
most clever lies and hypocrisy.

Who is it that drives the Russians, the English and the Americans into
battle and sacrifices huge numbers of human lives in a hopeless
struggle against the German people? The Jews! Their newspapers and
radio broadcasts spread the songs of war while the nations they have
deceived are led to the slaughter. Who is it that invents new plans of
hatred and destruction against us every day, making this war into a
dreadful case of self-mutilation and self-destruction of European life
and its economy, education and culture? The Jews! Who devised the
unnatural marriage between England and the USA on one side and
Bolshevism on the other, building it up and jealously ensuring its
continuance? Who covers the most perverse political situations with
cynical hypocrisy from a trembling fear that a new way could lead the
nations to realize the true causes of this terrible human catastrophe?
The Jews, only the Jews! They are named Morgenthau and Lehmann and
stand behind Roosevelt as a so-called brain trust. They are named
Mechett and Sasoon and serve as Churchill's money bags and order
givers. They are named Kaganovitsch and Ehrenburg and are Stalin's
pacesetters and intellectual spokesmen. Wherever you look, you see
Jews. They march as political commisars behind the Red army and
organize murder and terror in the areas conquered by the Soviets. They
sit behind the lines in Paris and Brussels, Rome and Athens, and
fashion their reins from the skin of the unhappy nations that have
fallen under their ...

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On Feb 10, 5:50 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
   I guess starting the war did not work out too well for them.

   One could not understand the Holocaust if one did not always keep
in mind the fact that Nazi nithings stood behind it.

   The following link explains them and you.

   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//m/morton.chris/wh...

 Michael

If Hitler hadn't told his Lies, people might be a little better off today!

But German's always did side with Rome "AGAINST ALBA"!
ALBA'S History of the PRUSSIAN LINE is Opposite to Hitler's View!
2 White Races in this world, regardless of his Aryan point of view.
Whites are Germanic, the "Lict Alfar.
REDS are Doc Alfar, and LEGENDS the LICT ALFAR ONLY DREAM OF!
Red's are the Pigs of the Underground who defeated the Germanic Invasion.
Hitler's BROWN SHIRTS, are ENGLAND'S BEAR SHIRTS, who united with the
Tribes of the De'Ue'Che (Name Atilla gave my Family) of Inverness to
defeat the Anglo Saxons!
Germanic's to the North of the Danube, Gaelic, Picts and Werelich to the
to the South.
We owned the Lands from the Atlantic to the Black Sea, Danube, to the
Medeteranian, "The UPPER KINGDOM", including the Elysium Fields!
Bear Shirts even where used as Brown Shirts represents what Rome did to
the Irish under St Patrick!
Marked the Mutts so people could know who they were, the Lying Murderous
Jute Bankers, out to Conquer the World!

By Mark Weber

Much has already been written about Roosevelt's campaign of deception
and outright lies in getting the United States to intervene in the
Second World War prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in
December 1941. Roosevelt's aid to Britain and the Soviet Union in
violation of American neutrality and international law, his acts of
war against Germany in the Atlantic in an effort to provoke a German
declaration of war against the United States, his authorization of a
vast "dirty tricks" campaign against U.S. citizens by British
intelligence agents in violation of the Constitution, and his
provocations and ultimatums against Japan which brought on the attack
against Pearl Harbor-all this is extensively documented and reasonably
well known.[1]

Not so well known is the story of Roosevelt's enormous responsibility
for the outbreak of the Second World War itself. This essay focuses on
Roosevelt's secret campaign to provoke war in Europe prior to the
outbreak of hostilities in September 1939. It deals particularly with
his efforts to pressure Britain, France and Poland into war against
Germany in 1938 and 1939.

Franklin Roosevelt not only criminally involved America in a war which
had already engulfed Europe. He bears a grave responsibility before
history for the outbreak of the most destructive war of all time.

This paper relies heavily on a little-known collection of secret
Polish documents which fell into German hands when Warsaw was captured
in September 1939.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
These documents clearly establish Roosevelt's crucial role in bringing
on the Second World War.

Poland had refused to even negotiate over self-determination for the
German city of Danzig and the ethnic German minority in the so-called
Polish Corridor. Hitler felt compelled to resort to arms when he did
in response to a growing Polish campaign of terror and dispossession
against the one and a half million ethnic Germans under Polish rule.
In my view, if ever a military action was justified, it was the German
campaign against Poland in 1939.

Poland's headstrong refusal to negotiate was made possible because of
a fateful blank check guarantee of military backing from Britain-a
pledge that ultimately proved completely worthless to the hapless
Poles. Considering the lightning swiftness of the victorious German
campaign, it is difficult to realize today that the Polish government
did not at all fear war with Germany. Poland's leaders foolishly
believed that German might was only an illusion. They were convinced
that their troops would occupy Berlin itself within a few weeks and
add further German territories to an enlarged Polish state. It is also
important to keep in mind that the purely localized conflict between
Germany and Poland was only transformed into a Europe-wide
conflagration by the British and French declarations of war against
Germany.

On 9 February 1938, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, Count Jerzy
Potocki, reported to the Foreign Minister in Warsaw on the Jewish role
in making American foreign policy:

The pressure of the Jews on President Roosevelt and on the State
Department is becoming ever more powerful ...

... The Jews are right now the leaders in creating a war psychosis
which would plunge the entire world into war and bring about general
catastrophe. This mood is becoming more and more apparent.
in their definition of democratic states, the Jews have also created
real chaos: they have mixed together the idea of democracy and
communism and have above all raised the banner of burning hatred
against Nazism.

This hatred has become a frenzy. It is propagated everywhere and by
every means: in theaters, in the cinema, and in the press. The Germans
are portrayed as a nation living under the arrogance of Hitler which
wants to conquer the whole world and drown all of humanity in an ocean
of blood.

In conversations with Jewish press representatives I have repeatedly
come up against the inexorable and convinced view that war is
inevitable. This international Jewry exploits every means of
propaganda to oppose any tendency towards any kind of consolidation
and understanding between nations. In this way, the conviction is
growing steadily but surely in public opinion here that the Germans
and their satellites, in the form of fascism, are enemies who must be
subdued by the 'democratic world.'

Ambassador Potocki's report from Washington of 9 January 1939 dealt in
large part with President Roosevelt's annual address to Congress:
President Roosevelt acts on the assumption that the dictatorial
governments, above all Germany and Japan, only understand a policy of
force. Therefore he has decided to react to any future blows by
matching them. This has been demonstrated by the most recent measures
of the United States.

The American public is subject to an ever more alarming propaganda
which is under Jewish influence and continuously conjures up the
specter of the danger of war. Because of this the Americans have
strongly altered their views on foreign policy problems, in comparison
with last year.

Of all the documents in this collection, the most revealing is
probably the secret report by Ambassador Potocki of 12 January 1939
which dealt with the domestic situation in the United States. This
report is given here in full:

The feeling now prevailing in the United States is marked by a growing
hatred of Fascism and, above all, of Chancellor Hitler and everything
connected with Nazism. Propaganda is mostly in the hands of the Jews
who control almost 100 percent radio, film, daily and periodical
press. Although this propaganda is extremely coarse and presents
Germany as black as possible-above all religious persecution and
concentration camps are exploited-this propaganda is nevertheless
extremely effective since the public here is completely ignorant and
knows nothing of the situation in Europe...

It is interesting to note that in this extremely well-planned campaign
which is conducted above all against National Socialism, Soviet Russia
is almost completely excluded. If mentioned at all, it is only in a
friendly manner and things are presented in such a way as if Soviet
Russia were working with the bloc of democratic states. Thanks to the
clever propaganda the sympathy of the American public is completely on
the side of Red Spain.

Besides this propaganda, a war psychosis is being artificially
created. The American people are told that peace in Europe is hanging
only by a thread and that war is unavoidable. At the same time the
American people are unequivocally told that in case of a world war,
America must also take an active part in order to defend the slogans
of freedom and democracy in the world.

These groups of people who occupy the highest positions in the
American government and want to pose as representatives of 'true
Americanism' and 'defenders of democracy' are, in the last analysis,
connected by unbreakable ties with international Jewry.

For this Jewish international, which above all is concerned with the
interests of its race, to portray the President of the United States
as the 'idealist' champion on human rights was a very clever move. In
this manner they have created a dangerous hotbed for hatred and
hostility in this hemisphere and divided the world into two hostile
camps. The entire issue is worked out in a masterly manner. Roosevelt
has been given the foundation for activating American foreign policy,
and simultaneously has been procuring enormous military stocks for the
coming war, for which the Jews are striving very consciously. With
regard to domestic policy, it is very convenient to divert public
attention from anti-Semitism, which is constantly growing in the
United States, by talking about the necessity of defending religion
and individual liberty against the onslaught of Fascism.

On 16 January 1939, Polish Ambassador Potocki reported to the Warsaw
Foreign Ministry on another lengthy conversation he had with
Roosevelt's personal envoy, William Bullitt

1. The vitalizing of foreign policy under the leadership of President
Roosevelt, who severely and unambiguously condemns totalitarian
countries.

2. United States preparations for war on sea, land and air will be
carried out at an accelerated pace and will consume the colossal sum
of 1.25 billion dollars.

3. It is the decided opinion of the President that France and Britain
must put an end to any sort of compromise with the totalitarian
countries. They must not get into any discussions aiming at any kind
of territorial changes.

4. They have the moral assurance that the United States will abandon
the policy of isolation and be prepared to intervene actively on the
side of Britain and France in case of war. America is ready to place
its whole wealth of money and raw materials at their disposal.

The Polish Ambassador to Paris, Juliusz (Jules) Lukasiewicz, sent a
top secret report to the Foreign Ministry in Warsaw at the beginning
of February 1939 which outlined U.S. policy towards Europe as
explained to him by William Bullitt:

A week ago, the Ambassador of the United States, William Bullitt
returned to Paris after a three months' leave in America. Meanwhile, I
have had two conversations with him which enable me to inform you of
his views regarding the European situation and to give a survey of
Washington's policy.

The international situation is regarded by official circles as
extremely serious and in constant danger of armed conflict. Those in
authority are of the opinion that if war should break out between
Britain and France on the one hand, and Germany and Italy on the
other, and should Britain and France be defeated, the Germans would
endanger the real interests of the United States on the American
continent. For this ...

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:34:16 -0900, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North

       Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Jews tell big lies. The
Jewish media took his words out of context and claimed that Hitler was
in favor of big lies. This was in itself a big lie and proof that
Hitler was right. Here is what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf and in
context:

     "But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity
for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute
responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had
shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the
catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that
hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for
the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took
away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous
enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the
Fatherland to justice. All this was inspired by the principle--which
is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain
force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always
more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature
than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity
of their minds they are more readily fall victims to the big lie than
the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little
matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It
would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and
they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort
truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so
may be brought clearly to their minds, they still doubt and waver and
will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For
the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it
has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in
this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These
people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest
purposes.
     "From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than
any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their
very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a
religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a
race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has
branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and
exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew 'The Great Master of
Lies'. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not
wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth
to prevail."

Then ALBA must be wrong, whatever that is.

mumbo jumbo

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