my computer cant take the graphic... maybe if i splash some amber on
it and do a little spell it will evolve. i dug it :)
Well, according to Gurdjieff the walls of the cylinder is supposed to
make gaseous substances expand, but I have heard him talk about the
enneagram being perpetual motion in another book.
Although the enneagram is associated with the musical octave, a
rainbow is also a kind o spectrum which can be applied to the
enneagram, and I guess a rainbow going around in a circle is just as
much perpetual motion as the enneagram.
nice graphics , music, vibe on your site and in your game world.
enjoyed!
The coolest thing about the game, is that I am playing for world
domination in reality, not just in fiction.
You lost the moment you started to play.
Bod
hey zanthius. you brought the enneagram up just before i was going to
do the same thing man.
me and m were talking. the strangeness of reality hit me all of a
sudden and funnily enough it was a familiar feeling! some stage i
said that in an previous culture i wouldn't have had the context to
exist in, as i want to be today... the veganism and the ocd and
everything. following that i looked at him sitting in house in this
town in this country at this time in history in this path in my life.
:"holy shit man do you realize how fucking lucky we are where we live
in this fucked up world. do you see how we could be in any other
situation but here. there's little reason we haven't taken a
completely different path in life. maybe i could have finished the
society route. hell we could have moved anywhere but m****** r*****
when i was a kid. you sitting here, it's fucking weird man."
soon enough! back came a theory from yonks ago that caused the same
strange perspective to dawn. the reuben cube, or the rubix cube.
(i'm going to be famous) now i've always hated math so i need a
professional to translate the goofball psudo effort i can make to get
the importance across that it needs to be. the cube is an geometrical
symbol like the tree of life is to the universe. it encompasses a
whole. ive come up with the whole brain model which i later discovered
has been claimed, using this key. the whole conscious model will
follow. ken wilber has already did make a theory of reality including
brain and csness and society and culture and a evolutionary spectrum
in each of those "quadrants", this corresponds to skeletal key of the
reuben cube. computer it and networking is possibly modeled into an 4
quadrant and level system representative of the brainmindsocial model
and in cog-sci this analogy is somewhat already used, you know.
everything in the evolved universe begins to become cube like ya know.
when the sun begged our worship as plant we made an ascent, a growth,
a level. the other sides werent developed well at this stage. by the
way, there might be a symbolic spanner in the works by using the
cube. anyway, do you realize something......... how really fucking
weird is it we are split in two man. two eyes, two arms, two legs, we
are like a friggin... mirror man. the fan in my room has a left and a
right, if i split it it is mirror like of itself. isn't that
weird..... your house has a front and a back, your tv has a front...
and a back...... there is a conspiracy here of great magnitude...
follow this. your body has a top and a bottom. you have legs and a
head.... isn't that fucked up... and like your house you have a front
and a back. its everywhere, the pattern is crazy it is in everything
around us. how fucked up.
I cannot lose, I can only make my website better and better, it
doesn't get worse, that is for sure.
Have you ever heard of Boris Sidis and his mathematical theory of four-
dimensional bodies? There is a link at near the bottom of the page to
his Harvard Lecture notes
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=715
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=715
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
HAY mon petit little Epiphany! How have you been? You just all-of-a-sudden,
appear out of no-where, and "piph" (said like one would say "poof", as in
like in a puff of smoke), THERE YOU ARE!
I often wonder about what you are doing with and for yourself in your course
of apprehending reality in as many ways as can be figured out.
Like this fellow Boris Sidis, whom you mention with regards to
"four-dimensionsl bodies".
His apprehension of the first three "spatial" dimensions is an expostulation
on an ancient explanation of the state of dimensional space and the
inhabitants thereof. It lays out the "rules" by which space is apprehended,
and then by using THAT set of "rules", produce a comprehension of the
meaning of the explanation for the fourth dimension.
The comprehension of the fourth dimension is understandable, as long as one
knows the rules that extrapolate the first three dimensions. Then all the
"mystery" goes out of the "esoteric, 'heavy-duty' meaning" that too many
times gets attributed to the occasional person who has come in contact with
the "rules" of a certain types of "curious" subjects, one such is the
conceptualization of "other" dimensions somewhere "beyond".
The following of the logic of THIS explanation is that: Each dimension has a
conceptually correspondent image. The Zero Dimension is the "point". The
First Dimension is the "line". The Second Dimension is the "plane". The
Third Dimension is the "cube, and the Fourth Dimension is the "tessaract",
which the dictionary defines as: "The four-dimensional analog of a cube."
BTW, in any dimension, there is the dimension's NEXT dimension with its
conceptually correspondent image.
The NEXT dimension up from the Zero Dimension's "point" is the First
Dimension's "sphere".
The NEXT dimension up from the First Dimension's "line" is the Second
Dimension's "cylinder".
The NEXT dimensions up from the Second Dimension's "plane" is the Third
Dimension's "cube".
And the NEXT dimension up from the Third Dimension's "cube" is the Fourth
Dimension's "tessaract".
Later, Einstein said the fourth dimension is "time", which is NOT a
replacement of the "ancient" explanation's Fourth dimension, but a further
understanding of the dimensions of existence.
The next "heavy" duty dude to come along will have an explanation for the
fifth dimension, and his name will get bandied about as special seer, sage,
or explaininer of the rules, though it REALLY doesn't make a hell of a lot
of difference.
Anyway, enough about all that "esoterica".
What are you doing with yourself to occupy your time? Making any progress?
Any "net gains" on the "meter of existence"? It's always nice to see you
appear again.
Other than telling you that I live an idyllic life of splendid solitude, I
have only one other thing to report, and that is that I've contracted an
unusual form of bi-polar mental illness, that cycles between mania, and
hyper-mania, with mania manifesting as happiness, and hyper-mania
manifesting as ecstasies, and euphorias. As a result, I've become immortal.
No, HONEST!
Anyway, my life is a melange of music, mechanics, cybernetics, and daily
reality that from the Great Universal Mind, emanates the ideolon of apparent
solipsistic reality perceived as the time/space/energy/matter/life/mind
continuum, which continues to unfold satisfactorily, and proceeds to
progress perfectly.
I have a mind at peace, a heart at rest, a contented soul, a healthy body, a
noble purpose, a good attitude, an honest demeanor, the courage to act, or
refrain, the freedom to choose, the wisdom to choose wisely, and a few more
days with clothing, food, shelter, transportation, recreation, and an excess
of the means of exchange. I'm still able to take care of the hour-to-hour,
ever-changing, minute-to-minute, custom-made, second-second experience
without bothering anyone un-necessarily with the events that comprise my
life.
Hope you are well, and suspending yourself securely at your interior
location. :)
--
Heh heh heh heh :) (Not genuine ~~~AW~~~ without this chuckle)
AllisonWonderland Concert Lightshow/Creative Focus Graphics Design
http://www.livingston.net/allison1/index.htm
Hay allison funny you bring up dimensions..... just before me! :)
because im alienated from the normal math 'crowd' (classes were
horrible, and because i didnt do homework and missed days... i just
remember snowballing downward in class.) i had a problem
distinguishing energetic dimensions and dimensions of perception of
form. how embarassing! so all the newagey gunk surely you're
familiar with? really made that hard aswell. dimension this 5th
dimension 4th, inner dimension, self dimension, astral dimension
dimension dimension dimension........! anyway the fact is i discarded
everything about the dimensions you define below. later i ran into it
again in my own line of thinking forcing me to start from scratch, and
like you said one concept evolves into the next and they can't cut
themselves off from the dimension below... because im naive i had to
get a math professor to verify the line of thought and he surprised
sayid im spot on. its horrible-boring to think about and i leave it
alone.
> The comprehension of the fourth dimension is understandable, as long as one
> knows the rules that extrapolate the first three dimensions. Then all the
> "mystery" goes out of the "esoteric, 'heavy-duty' meaning" that too many
> times gets attributed to the occasional person who has come in contact with
> the "rules" of a certain types of "curious" subjects, one such is the
> conceptualization of "other" dimensions somewhere "beyond".
>
yeah how do they get there, is it the word dimension itself smudging
them?
maybe they're right but as i saw it all dimensions can be explained in
total reference to materiality. the dimension of time does break the
static concept. maybe it is spiritual in like the way of perception
realizing greater truth. the dimension time i rather think of as flow
and motion. how do we think of energy. flow and in motion. there is
a connection.
> The following of the logic of THIS explanation is that: Each dimension has a
> conceptually correspondent image. The Zero Dimension is the "point". The
> First Dimension is the "line". The Second Dimension is the "plane". The
> Third Dimension is the "cube, and the Fourth Dimension is the "tessaract",
> which the dictionary defines as: "The four-dimensional analog of a cube."
>
> BTW, in any dimension, there is the dimension's NEXT dimension with its
> conceptually correspondent image.
>
> The NEXT dimension up from the Zero Dimension's "point" is the First
> Dimension's "sphere".
>
> The NEXT dimension up from the First Dimension's "line" is the Second
> Dimension's "cylinder".
>
> The NEXT dimensions up from the Second Dimension's "plane" is the Third
> Dimension's "cube".
>
> And the NEXT dimension up from the Third Dimension's "cube" is the Fourth
> Dimension's "tessaract".
>
funny word, on my planet we call it kuntu.
the fourth dimension was tricky to get in concept when you are drawing
shapes and thinking in static solids as the height of model. there
needs be a moving model to really get the notion of time... not sure
if im right its an old thinking ive left for a long time, but i
remember realizing the fourth dimension is time and of course i
remembered everyone had already said that. in concept it's a
challenge really if you are used to very static pictures of reality.
allan combs book the radiance of being talked bout the newer thought
being one of processes. those spectrums of evolution for example...
> Later, Einstein said the fourth dimension is "time", which is NOT a
> replacement of the "ancient" explanation's Fourth dimension, but a further
> understanding of the dimensions of existence.
>
> The next "heavy" duty dude to come along will have an explanation for the
> fifth dimension, and his name will get bandied about as special seer, sage,
> or explaininer of the rules, though it REALLY doesn't make a hell of a lot
> of difference.
>
hell the fifth dimensions easy, fairy kingdom man.
> Anyway, enough about all that "esoterica".
>
honestly, until i met the fairies, the fifth dimension stumped me too.
true since you were never
in the game in the first place
>I can only make my website better and better,
till somebody pulls the plug on you.
seems you aliens are a bit too over
dependent on electricity
> it
> doesn't get worse, that is for sure.
shirley it couldn't get
much worse
havent read it just popping it to b0ast. identify with the
beginning. when i was about the same age 3 or 4 my parents taught me
to read words. i remember it. the words might have created some
later language issues for me later in life.
i left my words in my other coat
like reading that webpage? lol 1 and half man... well i feel
stupid. but i dont know the age actually just that i was too young.
they stopped because they thought so. they never pushed me in any
other way like that.
my first words my parents still say i caught onto were 'whats this?',
i had to keep pointing at everything everywhere they carry me asking
what it is. later on i identify with simon the scientist chipmunk...
but the other thing i remember and they say was my habit was to tell
mum i love her in every other moment! :)
if the dumb could speak we would have a problem here.
the word 'problem' is in my other coat too
no problem.
>no problem.
'zactly
dont you think its weird? look around you. 90% of artifacts conform
to the reuben cube.
no. thinking it's weird would just mean
that my perspective sees weirdness and
my perspective is mine and what's mine
is me making me weird.
> look around you.
chasing my tail ?
> 90% of artifacts conform
>to the reuben cube.
what's up with the other 10 % ?
Hello Allison... thanks for the fun reception.
>
> I often wonder about what you are doing with and for yourself in your course
> of apprehending reality in as many ways as can be figured out.
Really? I do also think of you on occasion, nearly always when the TV
weather report shows some extreme phenomena in your area of the
country and my own mechanicality responds by chuckling to myself and
muttering something to the effect"God hates Texas." I get this image
of the piney flat woods covered in about 4 inches of marshy grassland.
Anyway - I wouldn't want to overshare hahahah! I am happy for you
that you are alive and doing well.
>
> Like this fellow Boris Sidis, whom you mention with regards to
> "four-dimensionsl bodies".
You know what they say? Never pull a rabbit out of a hat with whom
your audience is familiar. Why? Because then, immediately one or more
of them is going to assume you have some favoritism or leaning toward
that rabbit in particular and then go into a very lovely,
energetically generous discourse concernign and then I will be forced
to apologise for bringing the old dead russian chap up for some
reasons altogether different than discussing the etymology of his
thinking... Still, I appreciate it.
And who knows, maybe "dead" does, too.
Enough? Already? Gee wisened, Allison... you proclaim "enough" right
at the very moment you have brought us to this nearly, approximately,
practically established jumping off point, where we all could
possibly, conceivably, feasibly move to page two!
>
> What are you doing with yourself to occupy your time? Making any progress?
> Any "net gains" on the "meter of existence"? It's always nice to see you
> appear again.
As per usual, I have a few "projects" in the works. I don't however
have the inclination to discuss them here at the newgroups at the mo.
>
> Other than telling you that I live an idyllic life of splendid solitude, I
> have only one other thing to report, and that is that I've contracted an
> unusual form of bi-polar mental illness, that cycles between mania, and
> hyper-mania, with mania manifesting as happiness, and hyper-mania
> manifesting as ecstasies, and euphorias. As a result, I've become immortal.
> No, HONEST!
Are you still butting heads with this ridiculous religious model?
Still, in the last few years I have almost established enough proof
within my own living model of life to convince me that while I have no
proof of probable imortality status, I have however collected
substantive proof that the localised sourse of attention only hangs
around the body out of habit. Well, habit combined with opportunity.
It's been fun, insightful, vivifying and freeing - freeing of the
source of attention from rainbow world association if only
momentarily!
>
> Anyway, my life is a melange of music, mechanics, cybernetics, and daily
> reality that from the Great Universal Mind, emanates the ideolon of apparent
> solipsistic reality perceived as the time/space/energy/matter/life/mind
> continuum, which continues to unfold satisfactorily, and proceeds to
> progress perfectly.
>
> I have a mind at peace, a heart at rest, a contented soul, a healthy body, a
> noble purpose, a good attitude, an honest demeanor, the courage to act, or
> refrain, the freedom to choose, the wisdom to choose wisely, and a few more
> days with clothing, food, shelter, transportation, recreation, and an excess
> of the means of exchange. I'm still able to take care of the hour-to-hour,
> ever-changing, minute-to-minute, custom-made, second-second experience
> without bothering anyone un-necessarily with the events that comprise my
> life.
Again - I am happy for your happiness, euphoric for your euphoria,
satisfied with your satisfaction.
>
> Hope you are well, and suspending yourself securely at your interior
> location. :)
Heheh -- you been reading my diary?
with good reason
the kennedy assasination
the texas chainsaw massacre
george bush
i could go on and on....
Photovoltaic solar panels and photosynthetic plants, they both get
energy from thermonuclear fusion of hydrogen in the sun.
Where does the hydrogen come from then? Well, if supermassive black
holes are putting all the matter from hawking radiation outside of the
event horizon, while putting the anti-matter from the virtual particle
pairs inside of the event horizon, then that is where the hydrogen
comes from.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
It's allez fun to have you come around! :)
p:
> Really?
~~~AW~~~:
Would I lie about something like that?
p:
> I do also think of you on occasion, nearly always when the TV
> weather report shows some extreme phenomena in your area of the
> country and my own mechanicality responds by chuckling to myself and
> muttering something to the effect "God hates Texas."
~~~AW~~~:
And you know the funny part about THAT? I have the CNN homepage that has the
weather report on it, and I look at it every morning, and then I look out
the window when the sun comes up, and not thrice in ten times does the
window look like the forecast. The worst of the weather here is the
humidity. The rest is pretty decent. The secret to humidity is keeping the
air moving. Of course there's Air Conditioning, but that's for the really
HOT days.
p:
> I get this image of the piney flat woods covered in about 4 inches of
marshy
> grassland.
~~~AW~~~:
It's like that in places, but where I am is on the top of a grassy hill of
very nice soil where almost ANYTHING will grow if you just stick it in the
ground. The Yucca plants love it here, as do the China Berry Trees, and the
only plant that survives an every other week of cutting with the Craftsman
42" Riding Mower is the grass. So from Thansgibbon to the middle of May,
nothing needs doing. From mid-may to Thansgibbon, there's about twelve
mowings, and the watching of the thriving of the other plants. Now how could
Gawd HATE that?
p:
> Anyway - I wouldn't want to overshare hahahah! I am happy for you
> that you are alive and doing well.
~~~AW~~~:
Things seem to be going along just GREAT here.
p:
> You know what they say? Never pull a rabbit out of a hat with whom
> your audience is familiar. Why? Because then, immediately one or more
> of them is going to assume you have some favoritism or leaning toward
> that rabbit in particular and then go into a very lovely,
> energetically generous discourse concerning and then I will be forced
> to apologise for bringing the old dead russian chap up for some
> reasons altogether different than discussing the etymology of his
> thinking... Still, I appreciate it.
~~~AW~~~:
It's a rish one takes when one "name drops". :) Let's see... There's Peter,
Bugs, Energizer, Silly W., and that one that has a foot missing...
p:
> And who knows, maybe "dead" does, too.
~~~AW~~~:
He'd like to know that to which I was referring, but hadn't the courage to
just come out and say: "Yeah, how DO they arrive at the dimensions?" Or
maybe he could use one of MY phrases and say: "Would you care to elucidate?"
p:
> Enough? Already? Gee wisened, Allison... you proclaim "enough" right
> at the very moment you have brought us to this nearly, approximately,
> practically established jumping off point, where we all could
> possibly, conceivably, feasibly move to page two!
~~~AW~~~:
I didn't want to over-do it. :)
p:
> As per usual, I have a few "projects" in the works. I don't however
> have the inclination to discuss them here at the newgroups at the mo.
~~~AW~~~:
Next you're going to try to make me believe that you have been "peeking" at
page two?
p:
> Are you still butting heads with this ridiculous religious model?
~~~AW~~~:
Would I do a thing like THAT? No, this is NOT a religious thingie. It's MY
new sthick. I'm immortal with a capital "I". :) Hey, EVERYONE is entitled to
one fabulous CLAIM!
p:
> Still, in the last few years I have almost established enough proof
> within my own living model of life to convince me that while I have no
> proof of probable imortality status, I have however collected
> substantive proof that the localised source of attention only hangs
> around the body out of habit. Well, habit combined with opportunity.
~~~AW~~~:
Would it seem a bit gauche for me to say: "I know what you MEAN."?
p:
> It's been fun, insightful, vivifying and freeing - freeing of the
> source of attention from rainbow world association if only
> momentarily!
~~~AW~~~:
It's hard to beat "fun", "insightful", "vivifying" and "freeing". I feel
much the same way when I spend my morning (between putting down breakfast
for the cats, and the cleaning up of the kitchen thereafter) being immortal
with a capital "I". It makes the rest of the day go along with an inordinate
amount of "leisure&ease", which tends to render me
~~~HAPPY~~~HAPPY~~~HAPPY~~~.
p:
> Again - I am happy for your happiness, euphoric for your euphoria,
> satisfied with your satisfaction.
~~~AW~~~:
WHAT? You're not ecstatic for my ecstasies? You got something against
ecstasy? That's the one that is "fun, insightful, vivifying and freeing".
It's good to get OUT once in a while! :)
p:
Heheh -- you been reading my diary?
~~~AW~~~:
I'm still on page one.
Well, enough of this shilly-shallying... You want to see some REAL stuff? I
happen to have the ONLY 1964 Ford Galaxie 500, Four-Door, Hard-Top,
Fast-Back, Police Interceptor ANYWHERE. There are those who say that there
are others, but saying it, and proving it are two different things. If you
do a search of the entire WWW, you will find only Ms. American 3.14159. She
is fast becoming famous among people who are aware of such things.
Take a look at THIS:
http://msamericanpi.bravehost.com/galaxie.htm
http://msamericanpi.bravehost.com/galaxre.htm
http://msamericanpi.bravehost.com/galaxpa.htm
http://msamericanpi.bravehost.com/galaxca.htm
http://msamericanpi.bravehost.com/galaxen.htm
http://msamericanpi.bravehost.com/galaxint.htm
And then there's the music I've been working on.
And the 3D paintings that I'm doing.
And of course there's my health issues which cannot be neglected.
And would you believe I'll be 70 years old my next birfday?
Life is good when one is young at heart, and immortal. Don't forget
immortal!
Hope YOU are well.
Gordon: "rish"... it that you VANIER??
dudeeeeee! i was impressed. chin up.
apparently though i wasn't interested in the elucidation.
that doesn't mean it's boring but it was to me at the time.
basically only wanted to show how my thinking had kind of already
twisted around that dimension-dimension thingo. its no conclusion.
id be interested in hearing your opinion on my opinion if you'd like
me to elucidate... i will! whatever i say know that I KNOW it is
coming from a math naive brain.
how DO they arrive at dimensions?... well if i am wrong tell me
because then that question is valid. i expected you to correct me.
obviously i had done it so you are telling me i got to the point the
line and the plane and the solid and then motion via a unique
process. maybe the unique process is using my own brain? :)
... the way i saw it. i saw it. it was like trying to draw the NEXT
shape with an added depth not a mere extention into the same dimension.
you can kind ov veer off into strange modes of thought until the next
dimension actually clicks. theyre like koans come to think of it.
glad you brought it up. a process elucidated would be good. escaped
me to bring up,, various reasons. expected a more energetically
generous response for 1 ! :) two how else did i ever come to the
same conclusions seriously man wtf did i trip into the next dimension?
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
I absolutely HAET it when TAHT happens.
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
I've got some stuff to take care of around here before my next meeting with
the MDeities, and that is going to pretty much take up my entire time and
attention.
BUT I'll be home after that, and I'll put myself in the proper state of mind
and write up a complete elucidation.
This is NOT something that I thought up, but is an ancient explanation that
I found in a book by Manley P. Hall called: "The Secret Wisdom of the Ages".
Also at that time, there can also be made a delineation of the difference
between "dimensions" and "realms", which may help clear up the enigmatic
nature of the discussions that people get into when the differences are not
explicit.
Till then...
me too going on a mushroom trip to nannup its going to get like the
fabulous furry freak brothers up here (australia).
> BUT I'll be home after that, and I'll put myself in the proper state of mind
> and write up a complete elucidation.
>
> This is NOT something that I thought up, but is an ancient explanation that
> I found in a book by Manley P. Hall called: "The Secret Wisdom of the Ages".
>
hmm...has he written another immortal book. know the name.
> Also at that time, there can also be made a delineation of the difference
> between "dimensions" and "realms", which may help clear up the enigmatic
> nature of the discussions that people get into when the differences are not
> explicit.
>
this will be good will you also please say if you made sense of the
3d2d4d evolutionary direction thingo.
> Till then...
>
> --
> Heh heh heh heh :) (Not genuine ~~~AW~~~ without this chuckle)
>
> AllisonWonderland Concert Lightshow/Creative Focus Graphics Designhttp://www.livingston.net/allison1/index.htm
perstros
inetchi
All very interesting Allison - your website has some fascinating stuff
on there.
Well, I am off for vacation. Back in a week or so. Nice chatting with
you. Perhaps I will see you all in June.
>Well, I am off for vacation. Back in a week or so. Nice chatting with
>you. Perhaps I will see you all in June.
thanks for the warning
~~~AllisonWonderland~~~:
Those websites need redoing, and some commentaries about what one is seeing
needs be added. It would make them BETTER websites. The JPGs were put like
that because I could then refer to them on the Ford Discussion Groups to
which I write. The website was the way that I got the pictures there, then
it was "there" that the pictures would get their comments, be they:
questions; answers; discussion about everything about everything by a group
who are interested in dealing with "whatever" was in the picture.
And in actuality, to those who REALLY "know", by experience, that which is
shown, no captions are necessary.
p:
> Well, I am off for vacation. Back in a week or so. Nice chatting with
> you. Perhaps I will see you all in June.
~~~AW~~~:
Allow some time AFTER you get back to rest up from your VACATION.
Hope you have a wondermus time.