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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 9:40 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:40:10 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

Wow.

This may be the most useless charter and greatest lie ever told
in justifying a newsgroup. Millions of users exchanging legitimate
material?

Wow.

Luck with your project.


 
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Steve Bonine  
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 11:58 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:58:45 -0500
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 11:58 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema
On 10/28/12 8:40 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> fktrcf...@v.gg wrote:

>> For your newsgroups file:
>> alt.binaries.hidden-cinema     movies safe discussion

>> CHARTER:
>> Usenet has become one the largest network that allows millions of
>> users to exchange legitimate material on the grounds of common
>> interest and for the entertainment so much desired by any
>> individual.The newsgroup will be used to provide safe heaven for such
>> activities provided for quite a few  informed persons who share
>> similar interests.

...

> Luck with your project.

How could you possibly discourage someone trying to create a safe heaven?

Seriously, I am curious where the article was posted to which you are
following up.


 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 12:52 am
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 04:52:32 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 12:52 am
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

Where would I have found a newgroup control message?

 
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Steve Bonine  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 10:06 am
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:06:25 -0500
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 10:06 am
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema
On 10/28/12 11:52 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Seriously, I am curious where the article was posted to which you are
>> following up.

> Where would I have found a newgroup control message?

In the control newsgroup. But it's not showing in mine, so I asked. How
silly of me to think that, just once, you might make a positive
contribution.

 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 5:14 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:14:57 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>On 10/28/12 11:52 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>Seriously, I am curious where the article was posted to which you are
>>>following up.
>>Where would I have found a newgroup control message?
>In the control newsgroup. But it's not showing in mine, so I asked. How
>silly of me to think that, just once, you might make a positive
>contribution.

If a newgroup control message isn't in the control or control.newgroup
pseudo-newsgroups on one's News server, where else would one look to find
a newgroup control message?

 
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Steve Bonine  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 5:35 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:35:57 -0500
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema
On 10/29/12 4:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Gee, Adam, I don't know.  That's why I asked.  I notice that you still
didn't answer my original question.  You've answered my question with a
question twice now.  What question are you going to answer this question
with?

 
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Semel  
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 4:51 am
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Semel <semel...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 4:51 am
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema
Did you seriously expect him to blatantly state the real reason this (or any other alt.binaries group for that matter)would be used for? ;)
At least there are still people out there who know how to send control messages  instead of just requesting their providers to create a newsgroup( afaik giganews does that, for members only, bonus for the price they ask? :)
i just noticed rereading it he mentions 'gods"! haha
it looks like this self-confident fella who decided not to bother providing you with statistics, figures and what not that would prove usefulness of his group(and i mean, who would when we have alt.binaries.cock.warbling.grundercunts groups ffs ) knows his shit ;D
But , yeah, good luck  anyways.
Semel


 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 4:01 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:01:56 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

Semel <semel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Did you seriously expect him to blatantly state the real reason this (or
>any other alt.binaries group for that matter)would be used for? ;)
>At least there are still people out there who know how to send control
>messages  instead of just requesting their providers to create a
>newsgroup( afaik giganews does that, for members only, bonus for the
>price they ask? :)
>i just noticed rereading it he mentions 'gods"! haha
>it looks like this self-confident fella who decided not to bother
>providing you with statistics, figures and what not that would prove
>usefulness of his group(and i mean, who would when we have
>alt.binaries.cock.warbling.grundercunts groups ffs ) knows his shit ;D
>But , yeah, good luck  anyways.
>Semel

Don't top post on Usenet or in email, and just don't use Google Groups
generally.

Any moron can send a newgroup control message. The syntax is well documented,
and it's often a matter of copying and pasting.

That charter and the gross exaggeration of justification and the group name
that doesn't offer a clue as to the intent of the proponent indicates
otherwise.

Mentioning "gods" is the most common form of a proponent kooking out.
This way, he tells himself that his group failed due to conspiracy,
and not because he's a lazy asshole who couldn't be bothered to find
the potential audience for the group or to give anyone a reason to
care to subscribe to it or request its creation.

Kooking out is a bad sign, no matter what you believe. Kooking out in
the charter itself means that your foolishness is archived forever.


 
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Semel  
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 8:33 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Semel <Semel@semel>
Date: 31 Oct 2012 00:33:05 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema
Adam H. Kerman

>Mentioning "gods" is the most common form of a proponent kooking out.
>This way, he tells himself that his group failed due to conspiracy,
>and not because he's a lazy asshole who couldn't be bothered to find
>the potential audience for the group or to give anyone a reason to
>care to subscribe to it or request its creation.
>Kooking out is a bad sign, no matter what you believe. Kooking out in
>the charter itself means that your foolishness is archived forever.

What? alt.binaries.cock.warbling.grundercunts group  and hundreds alike waves at you.
I bet its and other approved and created groups charters revealed pure talent , determination
,statistical genious and a faithfull 100k followers.
My main idea behind slightly sarcastic(if u didnt notice it, which judging by your reply  you did) text i wrote  was that the days of charters, statistics,justification are gone.For good or for worse. Doesnt matter
And only a dying breed of old timers\no- lifers  still care just to show off in the name of the old
good days.

Your reply just proved my point.
Semel  


 
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William Bagwell  
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 8:36 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: William Bagwell <use-ot...@s.this.one.invalid>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:36:31 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:06:25 -0500, Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>In the control newsgroup. But it's not showing in mine, so I asked. How
>silly of me to think that, just once, you might make a positive
>contribution.

It was only in my ISP's control newsgroup and not in either of my NSP's control
newsgroups... Seem to recall that this indicates it is broken... Apparently in
a subtle way as this one looked OK to me. Way out of practice with this
configing stuff, but then ain't we all?;-)
--
William

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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 11:12 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:12:04 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

Semel <Semel@semel> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman
>>Mentioning "gods" is the most common form of a proponent kooking out.
>>This way, he tells himself that his group failed due to conspiracy,
>>and not because he's a lazy asshole who couldn't be bothered to find
>>the potential audience for the group or to give anyone a reason to
>>care to subscribe to it or request its creation.
>>Kooking out is a bad sign, no matter what you believe. Kooking out in
>>the charter itself means that your foolishness is archived forever.
>What? . . .

Ah. I'm being seamused.

 
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 11:18 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:18:42 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema

William Bagwell <321nos...@tds.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:06:25 -0500, Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>In the control newsgroup. But it's not showing in mine, so I asked. How
>>silly of me to think that, just once, you might make a positive
>>contribution.
>It was only in my ISP's control newsgroup and not in either of my
>NSP's control newsgroups... Seem to recall that this indicates it is
>broken... Apparently in a subtle way as this one looked OK to me. Way
>out of practice with this configing stuff, but then ain't we all?;-)

I spotted no bad syntax in the newgroup message. It even got the tab
character in the newsgroups file line.

 
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William Bagwell  
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 More options Nov 1 2012, 7:11 pm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: William Bagwell <use-ot...@s.this.one.invalid>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:11:17 -0400
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2012 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.hidden-cinema
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:18:42 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:

>I spotted no bad syntax in the newgroup message. It even got the tab
>character in the newsgroups file line.

Will not show in groupsearch until Sunday but Altopia picked it up immediately.
Odd that they did not show the control message...
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