New antivirus software ? Change security level on IE ( browser) ?
I ran into that with Outlook - showed me a small icon rather than image.
Changed security from high to moderate and then showed picture as it used
to.
( "preview" is considered a security issue)
BTW, I use paint to do what you do
start- prgs - accessories-paint
copy picture from app
paste
save as
done
If you WANT to use WordPad only , then edit your file type options
IF a PC, open windows Explorer
then Tools- Folder Options
scroll down for the filetype extension ( is it RTF ) you want ONLY WordPad
to open and remove that filetype from Word
So double-click RTF - for default program to be WordPad - Choose WordPad. Or
delete all but WordPad if you like. Having more than one listed just lets
you "rightclick " on the file and choose OPEN with several programs.
And if you don't have Word and do need to read Word documents (.doc), go to
Microsoft.com and download " Word Viewer."
>
>"JD" <No.R...@Sorry.com> wrote in message
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>> THEO@TO. wrote:
>>> For years I've been taking .jpgs and pasting them in WordPad
>>> documents and thought it was a great thing to be able to do it.
>>> I've done hundreds of documents like that and never had any
>>> problems. But now all of a sudden they don't show the pictures or
>>> even the text anymore, but instead it's just a bunch of symbols
>>> like y's with dots over them and rectangular blocks, etc... Can
>>> anyone explain what happened and how to make it work the way it
>>> did before?
>
>New antivirus software ? Change security level on IE ( browser) ?
Now that you mention it when I shut it down the other day it took
its sweet time about it and said it was updating some
things--probably security things because it's always wanting to
do that--and then it shut down when it got done.
>I ran into that with Outlook - showed me a small icon rather than image.
I looked at things more closely after reading that, and noticed
that the icon for .docs is the same as it was, then as they open
a WordPad icon shows up on the task bar, but then after they do
open it looks like a Notepad icon on the task bar instead of a
WordPad icon. Went to Folder Options--File Types. DOC (not .doc)
DOC File, Opens with: WordPad. So WTF???
>Changed security from high to moderate and then showed picture as it used
>to.
>( "preview" is considered a security issue)
That's worth a try. How?
> BTW, I use paint to do what you do
>start- prgs - accessories-paint
>copy picture from app
>paste
>save as
>done
What do you use to copy pictures? I've been using a demo version
of LView for several years. It has always worked though, and I've
made quite a few docs this way with no trouble reading them or
transfering them and reading them on other computers (except
newer ones often said they could not read that version of Word
documents...) until now all of a sudden when they quit working on
my own computer.
Shouldn't it have something to do with that Notepad icon showing
up on the task bar? Even when I highlight a .doc icon, then right
click and select Open With, then open it with WordPad it still
looks like text only and brings up a Notepad icon on the task
bar. Looking at the document after it's open, at the top bar
(whatever it is) in the left corner there is a text icon like the
one on the task bar, but then it goes on to say . . . .doc -
WordPad. What the hell???
Plan b : create a new flietype that opens with wordpad
so rename one of your files to be "filename.ggg"
Now double click on "filename.ggg". It will ask " what program to use"
choose WOrdpad and check the "always use this " box.
>>Changed security from high to moderate and then showed picture as it used
>>to.
>>( "preview" is considered a security issue)
>
> That's worth a try. How?
IE - TOOLS- internet options - privacy tab
>
>> BTW, I use paint to do what you do
>>start- prgs - accessories-paint
>>copy picture from app
>>paste
>>save as
>>done
>
> What do you use to copy pictures?
Not sure what you mean ?
Just right-click copy/ right-click paste
> I've been using a demo version
> of LView for several years. It has always worked though, and I've
> made quite a few docs this way with no trouble reading them or
> transfering them and reading them on other computers (except
> newer ones often said they could not read that version of Word
> documents...) until now all of a sudden when they quit working on
> my own computer.
>
> Shouldn't it have something to do with that Notepad icon showing
> up on the task bar? Even when I highlight a .doc icon, then right
> click and select Open With, then open it with WordPad it still
> looks like text only and brings up a Notepad icon on the task
> bar. Looking at the document after it's open, at the top bar
> (whatever it is) in the left corner there is a text icon like the
> one on the task bar, but then it goes on to say . . . .doc -
> WordPad. What the hell???
I can't duplicate that here.
If I go to www.GOOGLE.com and
right-click the 'logo of the day above the text area" - copy
Open Wordpad - paste -
Puts that picture into wordpad file for me.
Open Paint and edit- paste - creates same picture - SAVE AS
OP only posted to three groups, that is well within the customary limit for
crossposting, and is *far*, *far* better than multiposting.
The only issue at hand seems to be the relevance of the groups he posted to,
but I think we can overlook that failing today.
Jon
I used to use lview back many moons ago. Irfanview is a much better
solution, is free, and very capable.
Jon
I right clicked on a WordPad icon and selected Run as... The box
by "Protect my computer and data from unauthorized program
activity" was checked, so I unchecked it and hit OK hoping that
would change things back. But I can't find out whether it would
or not because something keep checking the box again...every time
I uncheck it and close the window, when I open it again it's
checked again. So now what???
That spiral icon IS wordpad.
> I right clicked on a WordPad icon and selected Run as...
WHY did you do that ?
"Run as... " means to RUN the program AS another user.
Reread previous message - in explorer , you want to "Open With" .
Did you copy/paint " google icon" as I did ?
Did that work ?
you need to do what I said last time and report results.
Does it work in 'paint' ?
open notepad type some characters and SAVE AS abc.mmm
now double-click that file. (abd.mmm)
the computer will prompt you for a program to use to open
that file because it has no info on the filetype " mmm".
Browse and select Wordpad as the program to use.
Next time you double-click the file ( or ANY file ending in mmm) it will
open wordpad.
Now oaste your picture in there. - call in xyz.mmm
double-click cyz.mmm - wordpad open? , picture Ok ?
if THAT works then your problem is the file type association.
If not, then probably HOW you're doing it / picture properties etc
Can't choose which until previous steps followed.
In the title here you said "all of a sudden"
drop back and reread earlier messages - look into those things you
chnaged/updated.
><THEO@TO.> wrote in message
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>> It's not really a Notepad icon after all, but it is a text icon
>> just white with black lines and the spiral looking thing across
>> the top.
>>
>
>That spiral icon IS wordpad.
Oh. My bad. It does say it's wordpad, but still does the text
only thing.
>> I right clicked on a WordPad icon and selected Run as...
>
>WHY did you do that ?
>"Run as... " means to RUN the program AS another user.
>Reread previous message - in explorer , you want to "Open With" .
I've done that a number of times. There are two versions of
wordpad on this machine and I've opened it with both of them, and
with the same result. Going to File Types, DOC files open with
wordpad and there is only the one listing of DOC files which is
what these are.
>Did you copy/paint " google icon" as I did ?
>Did that work ?
I copied a .jpg and pasted it into a paint document, but I still
want to be able to go back to doing it with wordpad since I've
already got a bunch of wordpad documents that used to work fine
and then all of a sudden stopped working. Something changed. How
do you put text in paint docs, btw?
I tried copying the info from one of the wordpad docs and pasting
it into a paint doc to see if that would work, but it didn't.
Does wordpad actually display the images that are pasted into it,
or is it another program that's responsible for making images
look like images in wordpad docs?
WHY ? How do you know ?
If they are different - rename "the new one" to wordpad/new for now
( BTW, this is getting too involved to contnue this way)
> and I've opened it with both of them, and
> with the same result. Going to File Types, DOC files open with
> wordpad and there is only the one listing of DOC files which is
> what these are.
Listen to me - for the next 30 minutes: FORGET that " I used to ..." ,
forget that "they end in .DOC"
Make a file abc.xyz and right-click "OPEN WITH"
choose Wordpad. Now "do your thing" /paste etc.
Does it work ?
YES - great
NO = it's not an extension problem ( .doc) it's a program problem and
messing with .doc vs xyz vs abc won't change it.
>
>>Did you copy/paint " google icon" as I did ?
>>Did that work ?
>
> I copied a .jpg and pasted it into a paint document,
not just " a JPG" - to clarify:
DO EXACTLY WHAT FAILS IN WORDPAD.
Did you ?
If you want to copy while online and paste into wordpad, then "copy while
online and paste into " PAINT. if same BAD icon then it's not the
paint/wordpad program - it's the INPUT.
Get it - you need to determine :
Is it a bad picture ? ( via IE or java or whatever)
or is it a program problem ?
> but I still
> want to be able to go back to doing it with wordpad since I've
> already got a bunch of wordpad documents that used to work fine
> and then all of a sudden stopped working. Something changed. How
> do you put text in paint docs, btw?
>
Choose the TEXT icon ( I'm not being funny - you'll see a "big A" - click it
for a text box)
This isn't an online course - please just try "paint vs wordpad".
> I tried copying the info from one of the wordpad docs and pasting
> it into a paint doc to see if that would work, but it didn't.
>
WHAT ? Huh ?
>>><THEO@TO.> wrote in message
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>>>> It's not really a Notepad icon after all, but it is a text icon
>>>> just white with black lines and the spiral looking thing across
>>>> the top.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That spiral icon IS wordpad.
>>
>> Oh. My bad. It does say it's wordpad, but still does the text
>> only thing.
>>
>>>> I right clicked on a WordPad icon and selected Run as...
>>>
>>>WHY did you do that ?
>>>"Run as... " means to RUN the program AS another user.
>>>Reread previous message - in explorer , you want to "Open With" .
>>
>> I've done that a number of times. There are two versions of
>> wordpad on this machine
>
>WHY ?
A lot of the docs I have were made on an older version of Windows
like 95 or 98, and when I started using this computer it kept
telling me it couldn't open Word something or other documents
which they were not, but it wouldn't open them with wordpad. So I
copied the version of wordpad I had from the old computer and
used it to open them with. It worked fine for years until all of
a sudden.
>How do you know ?
Because it gives me two choices when I select open with. They
have different icons.
>If they are different - rename "the new one" to wordpad/new for now
>( BTW, this is getting too involved to contnue this way)
>
>> and I've opened it with both of them, and
>> with the same result. Going to File Types, DOC files open with
>> wordpad and there is only the one listing of DOC files which is
>> what these are.
>
>Listen to me - for the next 30 minutes: FORGET that " I used to ..." ,
>forget that "they end in .DOC"
>
>Make a file abc.xyz and right-click "OPEN WITH"
>choose Wordpad. Now "do your thing" /paste etc.
>Does it work ?
>YES - great
>NO = it's not an extension problem ( .doc) it's a program problem and
>messing with .doc vs xyz vs abc won't change it.
Both versions of wordpad are 5.1. The version that was on this pc
wouldn't open the old .docs I loaded into it, so I put in the
older version of wordpad from my old computer and it worked great
until recently. Then it quit working for all of the docs it had
been opening fine before. I tried making new docs with the
version I loaded from the old pc and now it keeps having
"unexpected" problems or just fails to respond leaving the hour
glass icon hanging around, and sometimes it gives this messag:
You are about to save the document in a Text-Only format, which
will remove all formatting. Are you sure you want to do this?
I made docs with the new version and it seems to work fine, but
it won't open the docs made with the version from my old pc.
Neither will the old version any more, but it had been working
fine. At the moment it looks like I can make docs as I have been
with the version that was already on here, but can't use the
older ones made with the older version any more. I don't want to
lose them.
Why would wordpad not open wordpad docs to begin with? I used
wordpad to make things like that specifically trying to avoid
this sort of problem because every pc has wordpad, so it should
always be easy to few my docs. But this pc said it couldn't open
Word...whatever so I loaded wordpad from my old pc and opened
them with that and it worked fine for year up until now. All of
this is EXACTLY what I was deliberately trying to avoid by using
a common program like wordpad to make docs with pic in them...
>>>Did you copy/paint " google icon" as I did ?
>>>Did that work ?
>>
>> I copied a .jpg and pasted it into a paint document,
>
>not just " a JPG" - to clarify:
>DO EXACTLY WHAT FAILS IN WORDPAD.
>Did you ?
>If you want to copy while online and paste into wordpad, then "copy while
>online and paste into " PAINT. if same BAD icon then it's not the
>paint/wordpad program - it's the INPUT.
>Get it - you need to determine :
>Is it a bad picture ? ( via IE or java or whatever)
>or is it a program problem ?
>
>> but I still
>> want to be able to go back to doing it with wordpad since I've
>> already got a bunch of wordpad documents that used to work fine
>> and then all of a sudden stopped working. Something changed. How
>> do you put text in paint docs, btw?
>>
>Choose the TEXT icon ( I'm not being funny - you'll see a "big A" - click it
>for a text box)
>This isn't an online course - please just try "paint vs wordpad".
>
>> I tried copying the info from one of the wordpad docs and pasting
>> it into a paint doc to see if that would work, but it didn't.
>>
>WHAT ? Huh ?
I opened one of the docs that used to work fine but now does not
and copied everything from it, then pasted it into a paint doc to
see if that would somehow end up showing it like it used to, but
it didn't. I tried the same thing loading it into a doc made with
the later version of wordpad and that didn't work either. I hate
to lose all those old docs all of a sudden for no apparent
reason, but so far that's what looks like is going to
happen...exactly what I've been trying to avoid since before I
ever had the first problem with it...
I don't know what was modified or upgraded on your system but you tried
opening them using a freeware copy of Open Office? You can find it here:
http://www.openoffice.org/. Might be an alternative way to keep your "old"
files workable.
Didn't the early "Wordpad" have a 64K file size limit.
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
If you have problems with "RTF files" ( wordpad documents) that's a whole
'nother topic.
So don't conFUSE me !
Is the "picture thing" OK ?
As for "the old wordpad documents", what are their file extensions ? Are
they PICTURES or TEXT ?
HAD you saved them with "filename.RTF" extension ?
And you COULD read them before - but not now ?
copy one - open it on another PC - does it open / look ok there ?
This should become a new thread.
<THEO@TO.> wrote in message
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>To confirm your problem that was posted here:
>you wanted to save a picture from a webpage, so you " used to"
>right-click/copy the picture, then PASTE into wordpad. Right ?
>That's all I was trying to help you with.
I can still do it that way, but can't open old ones that I used
to be able to open.
>If you have problems with "RTF files" ( wordpad documents) that's a whole
>'nother topic.
>So don't conFUSE me !
>
>Is the "picture thing" OK ?
Now I can't open .jpgs as I used to be able to do. I can open
LView and make a .jpg, but can't open it after it's made. I can
copy and paste an image into wordpad and open that, but can no
longer open older wordpad docs I made before whatever happened
happened, and can no longer open .jpgs. Now when I try to open
.jpgs which I used to be able to do, I get the message:
. . .jpg is not a valid Win32 application
>As for "the old wordpad documents", what are their file extensions ? Are
>they PICTURES or TEXT ?
They are wordpad documents with pictures pasted into them. There
is also plenty of text as well as the pictures, which is one
reason I like using wordpad. That and because it should be "easy"
to open wordpad docs on any pc. So they are wordpad documents
with both pictures and text. Their extension is .doc though I
have made copies of some and changed them to .rtf to see if that
would work, and it did nothing.
>HAD you saved them with "filename.RTF" extension ?
No. They were .docs and they used to work fine, then after they
quit working all of a sudden I tried making copies and changing
the to .rtfs.....
>And you COULD read them before - but not now ?
Absolutely.
>copy one - open it on another PC - does it open / look ok there ?
>This should become a new thread.
I've tried opening them on later model computers and got a
message like: can not open word for windows ... documents, or
something like that. They are and always have been wordpad
documents.
That's true - jpg is NOT an application .
Tells me that YOU have associated filetype of .jpg with a PROGRAM called "
jpg "
THAT is WRONG , the Filename should be ... 'MSpaint.exe ', 'Windows Picture
viewer ', some PROGRAM.
SO:
#1 Go to another PC that works normally and check filetype
.jpg
and
.doc
and compare the 2 pc's - that's your problem.
.jpg files OK now ?
Yes = continue
No = go to step #1
> I've tried opening them on later model computers and got a
> message like: can not open word for windows ... documents, or
> something like that. They are and always have been wordpad
> documents.
The later PC has an association between .doc and WORD aka 'Microsoft word
for windows' ( the default for .doc files for years)
I still do not know: so tell me - yes or no - ALL of these .doc files that
don't work now - are they all PICTURES ?
If in fact the version of wordpad that you used was specific to Windows 98
( for example) , AND you deleted it from the PC, can you put on a floppy and
try one on a Win98 pc ?
That's enough for now.
Try it and let us know.
==================
<THEO@TO.> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:07:05 -0500, "- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123>
> wrote:
>
>>To confirm your problem that was posted here:
>>you wanted to save a picture from a webpage, so you " used to"
>>right-click/copy the picture, then PASTE into wordpad. Right ?
>>That's all I was trying to help you with.
>
> I can still do it that way, but can't open old ones that I used
> to be able to open.
====
Sorry, but I'm gonna ask specifc questions that need specific answers from
here on: so ONLY answer the question - exactly OK ? Until now you have gone
into "file types area with look at what program opens etc, so
Your problems ONLY relate now to file with extension of .doc ?
Has office ever been installed on this PC? ( MS Office associates .doc with
WORD so if Office WAS on there and then removed you'd get a
I think you know but the file EXTENSION determeines which prgram opens the
file. By defualt Windows comes with certain defaults. Seems to me that you
have chnaged Windows defualt settings to "something else" in the past and
are going down a rathole. So, forget that doc USED to work for now. As a
review, whether it is ".doc" or ".xyz" all that happens is that Windows goes
to a table to see " what file do I use to open this filetype? ". If it did
NOT do that every time you try to use a file it would ask " what file do I
use to open this file? "
So you USED to have doc associated with SOME program. IF that program was
removed / deleted from your PC, it needs to get reinstalled. If you're with
me so far:
Now that .jpg is fixed ....
When you look at filetypes, do you now only have one listing for .doc ?
What program is the default program opened ?
when you look at details, is there a CHANGE box on that screen ? If so click
it and look at alternative programs. What programs are listed ?
Check jpg file extension - what is defualt ? Do you remember what is USED
to be - is that program available when you clikc CHANGE
>> the message:
>> ". . .jpg is not a valid Win32 application "
>
>That's true - jpg is NOT an application .
>
>Tells me that YOU have associated filetype of .jpg with a PROGRAM called "
>jpg "
>THAT is WRONG , the Filename should be ... 'MSpaint.exe ', 'Windows Picture
>viewer ', some PROGRAM.
>SO:
>
>#1 Go to another PC that works normally and check filetype
>.jpg
>and
>.doc
>and compare the 2 pc's - that's your problem.
>
>.jpg files OK now ?
On this computer in File Types it says they should open with
LView, but they don't have an LView icon. Instead they have a
Netscape icon of some sort.
I can open LView and then open .jpgs and .jpegs from there, but I
can't select Open With and then select LView and get them to open
that way. Trying it that way just brings up the ". . .jpg is not
a valid Win32 application " message.
>Yes = continue
>No = go to step #1
>
>> I've tried opening them on later model computers and got a
>> message like: can not open word for windows ... documents, or
>> something like that. They are and always have been wordpad
>> documents.
>
>The later PC has an association between .doc and WORD aka 'Microsoft word
>for windows' ( the default for .doc files for years)
>
>I still do not know: so tell me - yes or no - ALL of these .doc files that
>don't work now - are they all PICTURES ?
Not all of them have pictures, but most do. Now I've learned that
I can open one of the screwed up docs, paste a .jpg into it and
save it, and when I re-open it there's the screwed up mess AND
the new .jpg I pasted in.
>If in fact the version of wordpad that you used was specific to Windows 98
So does each version of Windows have a different version of
wordpad that doesn't work well with different versions of
Windows? If they did that why wouldn't they at least make it so
newer versions can read things made with older versions, even
though they couldn't go back in time to make older versions able
to read things made with newer versions?
go into LView and choose HELP
You might find to open a pictur standalone you have to type soemthing
special
like " LView.exe / openwithxxxx".
For the time being - make it so the default for JPG is , picture viewer,
paint, etc so you can at least work with /view jpgs.
right click a JPG file
"open with " select CHOOSE PROGRAM
select the program you want, check the ALWAYS USE box and be done with it
do NOT use Lview for automating anything until you find out if you CAN.
<THEO@TO.> wrote in message
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How about considering this thread closed and if jpg questions, start a new
one.
As for what happened to your wordpad - I even forget the deatils - you said
you copied it from an old PC ?
I think what happened to you was some update saw .doc files and ran an
update related to WORD and it messed with your registry - changing your OLD
references to wordpad.
Ask someone locally who can sit in front of the PC to take a look. It's too
tedious for us to explain every click and for you to answer every click .
Someone sitting there can probably figure it out in 5 minutes whereas doing
it they way we've tried ... 'something gets overlooked/not mentioned , and
go down a rathole.
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