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 More options May 16, 10:45 pm
Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.economics, soc.culture.australian, soc.culture.british
From: nos...@nospam.nospam (Straydog)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:45:06 GMT
Local: Fri, May 16 2008 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: America, a Civilization in Decline

Most of the articles I see in the recent issues of WSJ are saying that
the US economy isn't doing that bad, and that most of the Asian
economies are suffering double to triple the inflation that we have.

Tourism is up in the USA, and exports are still increasing, and our
trade deficit is going down. Even the real estate market is
stabilizing.
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT), indiaBPOking

<indiabpok...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977328862

>by EssDee C.
>April 21, 2008 03:30 PM EDT

>I read and listen and listen and read and I keep hoping someone
>somewhere will actually get to the root of our current situation. I
>hear about froth in the housing market, a bubble in commodities, a
>conundrum in this, a puzzlement in that. On and on. But, I still
>haven't heard anyone actually address the real problem at the bottom
>of our current economic crisis in this country.
>Once long ago, in an economy far, far away... OK. OK. No drama.
>I was born in the baby-boomers generation, near the end. During my
>lifetime the world has changed in so many ways it's beyond belief. Sci-
>Fi became reality and then reality doubled-down.
>In 1974 a van came to my high school and 3/4 of it was a computer.
>They demonstrated it's "power" and "abilities" and printed each of us
>a calendar... :) Cute, huh?
>This little known technology turned this country on it's head. On the
>way up it gave birth to the YUPPIE. High tech produced a huge wave of
>good paying middle class jobs. People in these jobs bought nice homes,
>fancy cars and designer clothing. They bought into high tech
>themselves. VCRs became DVDs TVs became big screen, hang it on the
>wall 3" thick plasma giants, video games in every home, home PCs and
>laptops, and anything we could imagine became available for our buying
>pleasure. The demand for all the goodies these families wanted and
>could easily afford made job opportunities for people working in
>construction, the automotive industry, clothing, technology, retail
>sales, etc, etc, etc. Then there was the restaurants and fast food
>industry, (These high-teckers didn't cook, they ate out.) Vacations
>and home decorating. Their good fortune created a whole country of
>people who worked in support of the techies lifestyles and improved
>the quality of living for those people too. So, what happened?
>What happened... The middle class broke the golden rule, they started
>moving up the financial ladder on a large scale in a big way- fast.
>Too many started making too much money. They were on a rocket ship to
>the sky and pulling the lower class up behind them in their back
>draft. The rich were in danger of too much company. It was starting to
>get crowed on the elevators up to the clouds. The insolence!! This
>just could not be allowed. So, the powers that be showed them. They
>outsourced the good paying, high tech jobs. Poof!! And then there were
>few.
>The corporations began to make really big bucks, record profits and
>the rich were wallowing in it. They laughed and laughed and laughed.
>Those arrogant geeks who thought they could rise to be one of them had
>been struck down. The job market started slowing. Annual raises and
>bonuses gave way to pay cuts or be fired and replaced. Wall Street was
>doing great but Main Street was faltering. Thirty year olds still
>living with their parents couldn't afford to live in a place of their
>own. The economy was slipping but as long as the general public was
>working 2-3 jobs per household and didn't have time to catch on, the
>rich were raking in their losses.
>The middle class had beautiful homes, fabulously expensive cars,
>closets filled with high priced designer clothes, a TV, computer,
>video game system and cable TV in every room and their jobs were
>disappearing faster than they had been created. Their biggest assets?
>Their homes. When the slip in the economy started, they were offered
>equity lines of credit up to 110% of the value of their home. Their
>paychecks were going down, the cost of living was going up but this
>would all blow over and then when the economy came back they could pay
>off the mortgages, credit cards, etc and all would be as it was. Then
>came the froth in housing. The problem was not that a bunch of
>irresponsible people got home loans they couldn't afford. It was that
>no one told them they weren't going to be able to afford them after
>all their jobs got outsourced to foreign countries and would never
>come back. They got blind-sided.
>Problem is, we still haven't seen just how deep this hole is going to
>get. The jobs that sky-rocketed this economy are now in India, among
>other countries where the pay is low, the working conditions are
>deplorable and corporations and the super rich can continue to make
>record breaking profits.
>They stripped the middle class and picked their bones. But, they went
>too far. Got too greedy. Wall Street took a big hit. Oops!! Hedge
>funds went under. Oh, No!! That's, that's the rich... Gotta stop that.
>Pumping millions, billions into the banking system. The Fed
>guaranteeing loans. People are still being dumped out of their homes,
>but, hey, at least Wall Street and the rich will be OK now. So, what
>now?
>What now... Until this government admits they let a dumb, red-neck
>idiot (whose only goal was to impoverish and punish the arrogant
>middle class and re-fund the rich) destroy this country through his
>arrogant "I'm the decider" policies, nothing. We just keep sinking. If
>they do step up and bite the bullet, admit the screw-ups instead of
>trying to cover them up and go around them, we have a chance. Jobs
>MUST be brought back. Corporations MUST be made to re-invest in this
>country- and NOT with tax-payer tax breaks that they hoard as cash!!
>Rather with some of the record breaking profits they stripped out of
>this country over the last 7+ years. Taxes on the upper class SHOULD
>be higher than those on the working class. THEY should carry the bulk
>of the tax burden. I am so sick of the old line about them being
>punished for being successful!! It boggles the mind that people who
>have enough money to buy a small country from money they made off the
>sweat and backs of the average American citizen actually resent paying
>taxes. Well, it's only fair that those who paid the most taxes should
>get the biggest tax breaks?? OK, so let's give the rich their tax
>breaks, forgive oil companies billions upon billions owed to the
>American citizens for drilling on public land, let them enjoy the
>health-care made available from research paid for through grants paid
>for by taxes paid by every American who ever worked and paid taxes. I
>could go on for hours, but you get the point.
>If the next president does not undo everything Bush screwed up. We are
>screwed and you can watch that rocket ship fall from the sky and make
>an economical crater with a bottomless pit. During the Bush
>administration the two worst tragedies in my lifetime occurred. 9/11
>and Katrina. Bush used them to rape this country and the US Congress
>let him.


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