PAKISTAN BLOCKS YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK
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The Associated Press
The Pioneer
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Islamabad - The Pakistani government blocked access to YouTube on
Thursday because of "sacrilegious" content in a growing Internet
crackdown against sites deemed offensive to the country's majority
Muslim population.
The move against the video-sharing website came a day after the
government blocked access to Facebook amid anger over a page on the
social networking site that encourages users to post images of
Islam's Prophet Muhammad.
Islam prohibits any images of the prophet. The Pakistan
Telecommunications Authority did not point to specific material on
YouTube that prompted it to block the site, only citing "growing
sacrilegious contents."
The government acted against both Facebook and YouTube after it
failed to persuade the websites to remove the "derogatory material,"
the regulatory body said in a statement.
It welcomed representatives from the two websites to contact the
Pakistani government to resolve the dispute in a way that "ensures
religious harmony and respect."
The regulatory body said it has blocked more than 450 Internet links
containing offensive material, but it is unclear how many of the
links were blocked in the last two days.
Access to the online encyclopedia site Wikipedia also was restricted
Thursday, but it was not clear if the government had intended to do
so. The head of the Pakistani telecommunications company Nayatel,
Wahajus Siraj, said the restriction resulted from a technical glitch.
The government blocked Facebook on Wednesday after a group of Islamic
lawyers won a court order requiring officials to restrict access to
the site until May 31. It was unclear if the ban against YouTube also
would be temporary.
The Facebook page "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!" encourages users to
post images of the prophet on May 20 to protest threats made by a
radical Muslim group against the creators of the animated American
television series "South Park" for depicting Muhammad in a bear suit
during an episode earlier this year.
The page sparked protests from radical students in Pakistan, with
some holding signs urging Islamic holy war against those who
blaspheme the prophet.
"Public sentiment has been growing," said Siraj, the Nayatel CEO.
"The government was monitoring it and there seemed to be public
unrest, so it had to take a decision."
A series of cartoons of the prophet published in a Danish newspaper
in 2005 sparked violent protests by Muslims around the world,
including in Pakistan, and death threats against the cartoonists.
In an attempt to respond to public anger over the Facebook dispute,
the Pakistani government ordered Internet service providers in the
country to block the controversial page Tuesday. But members of the
Islamic Lawyers Forum asked the Lahore High Court on Wednesday to
order the government to fully block Facebook because it allowed the
page to be posted in the first place. Facebook said Wednesday it was
investigating. "While the content does not violate our terms, we do
understand it may not be legal in some countries," the company said
in a statement.
"In cases like this, the approach is sometimes to restrict certain
content from being shown in specific countries." Online reaction to
the Facebook ban was supportive in the initial hours after it was
implemented. But comments on Twitter _ which was still unblocked
Thursday and drawing new users thanks to bans on other sites _ showed
many Internet users were angry about the wide-ranging restrictions.
"Sad and embarrassing day in the history of Pakistan. Tough times to
be a Pakistani. Questionable decisions in a so called 'democracy,"'
one user tweeted. Pakistan blocked access to YouTube for two days in
2008 because of what it said was unIslamic content. Turkey, Thailand,
Indonesia and Morocco have all blocked access to YouTube in the past
for various reasons.
It remains to be seen how successful the government will be at
keeping Pakistan's nearly 20 million Internet users from accessing
the blocked sites. Other countries, such as China, permanently ban
Facebook and YouTube. But citizens often have little trouble working
their way around the ban using proxy servers and other means. "What's
common to Facebook and Lashkar-e-Taiba?" one user on Twitter wrote,
referring to a Pakistani militant group that is banned but has an
alleged front group that operates openly. "They are both banned in
Pakistan, but Pakistanis can still find them if they want to."
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kangarooistan
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Pak blocks YouTube, Facebook
>
Why dont all the christians in Pakistan simply go live in USA UK and
Australia then nobody would want to see pics of the prophet
it would be MUCH easier and cheaper too , then they could do anything
they like
South Australian Right wing Zionist christian terrorist group
arrested as MORE weapons " dumps ' are siezed
Following another random gun , attack on Aboriginal family overnight
when 7 shots blasted their modest home in south australia narrowly
missed 2 young Aboriginal children and their parents
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/20/2904402.htm
.
An existing "Honeypot" exposes yet ANOTHER stash of Guns,
detonators and massive ammo dump , found in Racist White Zionist
Fundy christian religious sect raids , at " blackfellows Creek " near
MP Jamie briggs " Mayo electorate " in south Australia
.
: Police have been taking evidence from the headquarters of Agape
Ministries International in Adelaide all day.
Twelve properties linked to the group have been raided, including one
at Mount Magnificent south of Adelaide.
Photo 1 of 2 police at premises
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/20/2904812.htm
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Police ' Honeypot " led to raids on properties allegedly linked
with Fundy Zionist Christian Agape Ministries (ABC News)
.
Police are now looking for the group's key leadership group, which
they say could be interstate or overseas. Agape Ministries
International is listed on the Australian Business Register as a
charitable institution.
.
Police say the group was also amassing money, collected from more than
50 of its members.
JIM JEFFERY: The Ministry's built up a substantial amount of funds and
those funds have been obviously provided by its membership or by its
followers by selling up their properties or by pledging funds to that
church.
Obviously the aspect of the inquiry now is to ascertain whether those
funds have been used by the Ministry as per the expectations of the
people who have given them the money.
.
South Australian police say it appears the leaders of a secretive
religious sect may have been stockpiling weapons to attack non white
or non christians living in MAYO electorate of MP Jamie Briggs
Guns, high-powered ammunition and explosives equipment have been
seized in raids on 12 properties in and near Adelaide linked with the
Fundy Christian Zionist Agape Ministries of God.
Four people have been arrested or reported for firearms offenses, but
police say the sect leaders have not been located yet but computer
records will soon locate all criminal and psychotic racist members to
face justice.
computers have been seized and more arrests are to follow
The largest seizure was at Blackfellows Creek Mount Magnificent,
south of Adelaide, where detonators, fuses and 20,000 rounds of
ammunition were found in a shipping container.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=7wM&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&q=blackfellows+creek+mount+magnificent+south+australia&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
AKA , Skull Creek , a common name for a number of creeks and waterways
in Australia. In each case, it is named so due to the killing of
Aboriginal people in the area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Creek
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The Peramangk are an Indigenous Australian people whose traditional
lands are primarily located in Adelaide Hills but also in the southern
stretches of the Fleurieu Peninsula, South Australia. They were also
referred to as the Mount Barker tribe, as their numbers were noted to
be greater around the Mount Barker summit[1],
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peramangk
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Detective Superintendent Jim Jeffery says ammunition was hidden in the
steel-framed bed heads.
"These findings of course are very concerning for the investigators,
particularly given that it's suspected that high-powered weapons have
been fired on that property up at Mount Magnificent," he said.
Those weapons will all need to be located and will ALL soon be
located , as investigations continue more arrests will follow as the
right wing terrorist groups thrive in the Mayo electorate and ALWAYS
have since colonial times legacy under the "dark days" of the
"Downer" years seem set to continue under Alexander downers "hand
picked " replacement the present Mayo MP Jamie Briggs
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/A-journey-into-Downers-dark-past/2005/05/31/1117305617682.html
"The reasons for stockpiling and hiding this ammunition " by these
racist white Zionist fundamentalist christian extremists clearly needs
to be ascertained , and "we haven't located those weapons as yet." ,
located not far from ' "Blackfellows creek" in Jamie Briggs MP MAYO
electorate , and further " honeypots " will need to be set up ASAP to
expose all the racist criminals "lurking in the shadows " pretending
to be upright law abiding patriotic citizens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Mayo
Two men - a Mount Compass man, 49, and an Upper Sturt man, 46 - have
been arrested and another two men, 48 and 38, have been reported for
firearms offences. A dozen properties have been raided and their
computer files will expose the rest in due time
George Kruszewski lives near the Agape Ministries property at Oakden
in Adelaide and says the group has the hallmarks of a christian
cult.
"I know a few of the people that are, you might say, the inner circle
of people there. They seem to be involved in finance and business and
that sort of thing, you know doing deals and in fact one of them said
he'd lend me any amount of money I wanted provided it was over $10
million," he said.
Its very clear their funding comes from the usual terrorist supporter
fundamentalist Zionist Israeli and USA links
MARK COLVIN: Australian police are hunting three leaders of an
international religious group after raids in Adelaide uncovered a
stash of guns, detonators and ammunition.
.
South Australian fraud investigators are also examining payments from
members who gave money to Agape Ministries International.
Roger Gore also lives nearby.
"The whole place is just very quiet, very secure , and I suppose from
a distance like we are here you would wonder what goes on in there,"
he said.
"The delivery vans go in and come out."
Major fraud, firearms and commercial and electronic crime sections of
the SA Police are involved in the ongoing investigation. ,
Four men from South Australia have been charged with firearms offences
and will appear in court at a later date.
More arrests WILL follow as their networks are infiltrated and
exploited for evidence of local , interstate and international
criminal activity
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/20/2904812.htm
If you notice any fundamentalist Christians living near YOU report
them to the nearest Police station ASAP
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Police raided 12 properties including a farm near Mount Compass, south
of Adelaide, which they say possibly was being used for weapons
training.
They found 35,000 rounds of ammunition for high-powered guns but not
the guns themselves.
Three key leaders of the group are missing, including Rocco Leo, also
known as Brother Rock, who is the ministry's founder.
Four arrests have been made over the weapons find.
Police say they want to know what has happened to millions of dollars
donated by followers
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Recent News
On February 20, 2010, 23 students graduated from Kerala Theological
Seminary. Along with their degree, each student was given a Bible and
bicycle for them to use as they go out into the mission field in
various parts of India. The Bible is necessary to preach the gospel,
and the bicycle provides a mode of transportation for these students
as they go from village to village, sharing the good news of Jesus
Christ. Please pray for these new graduates, and the other graduates
who are already in the mission field.
ecent News
On February 20, 2010, 23 students graduated from Kerala Theological
Seminary. Along with their degree, each student was given a Bible and
bicycle for them to use as they go out into the mission field in
various parts of India. The Bible is necessary to preach the gospel,
and the bicycle provides a mode of transportation for these students
as they go from village to village, sharing the good news of Jesus
Christ. Please pray for these new graduates, and the other graduates
who are already in the mission field.
Romanise
> On May 21, 1:19 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > Pak blocks YouTube, Facebook
>
> Why dont all the christians in Pakistan simply go live in USA UK and
> Australia then nobody would want to see pics of the prophet
You think they do not want to?
Is your team of "Moderate" Muslims arranging for their passage, visa,
etc?
> it would be MUCH easier and cheaper too , then they could do anything
> they like
What would be your advice to Christians and others when Muslims with
51% begin to rule the world? You will ask them to go to Mars?
By the way what do you advise to Shias, Ismailis and Ahmediyas of
Pakistan who keep getting killed by Sunni Muslims there?
kangarooistan
> On May 21, 7:27 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 21, 1:19 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > Pak blocks YouTube, Facebook
>
> > Why dont all the christians in Pakistan simply go live in USA UK and
> > Australia then nobody would want to see pics of the prophet
>
> You think they do not want to?
> Pakistan who keep getting killed by Sunni Muslims there?
Seems the best for everybody
Those who enjoy breaking the laws should fit in very well in UK USA
and Australia so IF they want to eave let them go , simply jump on a
boat and sail away, they will enjoy living in the west until they find
out what christians and jews are really like
Romanise
> On May 21, 3:50 pm, Romanise <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 21, 7:27 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 1:19 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > Pak blocks YouTube, Facebook
>
> > > Why dont all the christians in Pakistan simply go live in USA UK and
> > > Australia then nobody would want to see pics of the prophet
>
> > You think they do not want to?
> > Pakistan who keep getting killed by Sunni Muslims there?
>
> Seems the best for everybody
>
Just answer the questions which I put here again with your original
suggestion..
On May 21, 7:27 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why dont all the christians in Pakistan simply go live in USA UK and
> Australia then nobody would want to see pics of the prophet
You think they do not want to?
Is your team of "Moderate" Muslims arranging for their passage, visa,
etc?
> it would be MUCH easier and cheaper too , then they could do anything
> they like
What would be your advice to Christians and others when Muslims with
51% begin to rule the world? You will ask them to go to Mars?
By the way what do you advise to Shias, Ismailis and Ahmediyas of
kangarooistan
> > Seems the best for everybody
>
[Irrelevant crap deleted]
South Australian Right wing Zionist christian terrorist group
Romanise
Pakistani Sunnis would rather kill them along with Sikhs, Hindus,
Shias, Ismailis and Ahmedia.
Strangely there are quite a few warriors for Christianity on Indian
subcontinent are making loud noise on Usenet.
None of them want to question this Muslim who wants Muslims to rule
the whole world, to achieve that he is in Australia to make more
babies.
Perhaps Australian Internal Security should send him to Pakistan in
exchange for one Christian from Pakistan.
kangarooistan
more immigrants = MORE workers = more money for EVERYBODY
i value every new worker at about 3 million AU dollars to the
economy , even mothers ADD future workers who WILL earn at LEAST 3
million ave in a lifetime ave
If they are unable to use facebook then migrate if they want to abuse
the Prophet its not a crime in Australia , just bad manners proving
the low IQ of the abusers
South Australian Right wing Zionist christian terrorist group
arrested as MORE weapons " dumps ' are siezed
Following another random gun , attack on Aboriginal family overnight
when 7 shots blasted their modest home in south australia narrowly
missed 2 young Aboriginal children and their parents
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/20/2904402.htm
.
An existing "Honeypot" exposes yet ANOTHER stash of Guns,
detonators and massive ammo dump , found in Racist White Zionist
Fundy christian religious sect raids , at " blackfellows Creek " near
MP Jamie briggs " Mayo electorate " in south Australia
.
: Police have been taking evidence from the headquarters of Agape
Ministries International in Adelaide all day.
Twelve properties linked to the group have been raided, including one
at Mount Magnificent south of Adelaide.
Young girls 'promised to Agape cult members'
Updated 1 hour 52 minutes ago
Lesley Baligod says granddaughters promised in marriage to Agape cult
members
Lesley Baligod says granddaughters promised in marriage to Agape cult
members (ABC News)
* Video: Weapons find linked to cult (7pm TV News SA)
* Video: Nick Xenophon on cult concerns (ABC News Breakfast)
* Audio: Police hunt cult leaders over weapons raid (PM)
* Audio: Families and Communities Minister Jennifer Rankine talks
to 891 ABC about the Agape cult (Local Radio)
* Related Story: Cults thrive on tax-free status: Xenophon
* Related Story: Police hunt religious leaders over weapon stash
* Related Story: Guns, detonators found in religious sect raids
We need to know where the kids are. We need an urgent assessment as to
whether they are safe
– Nick Xenophon
.
A woman has told a media conference her granddaughters, aged eight and
six, were promised in marriage to members of the Agape Ministries
cult.
.
This week police raided South Australian properties linked to Agape
Ministries and found guns, high-powered ammunition and explosives ,
another shipping container load discovered AGAIN today as computers
get examined more arrests WILL follow and EVERY racist criminal in
Australia will be arrested charged and jailed in a complete clean out
of all white racist HATE groups unfolds
.
Lesley Baligod, who says she is the mother of a cult member, spoke at
a media conference organised by independent Senator Nick Xenophon in
Adelaide.
document with pics is publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_399d47sffff
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document with pics is publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_399d47sffff
Guns, high-powered ammunition and explosives equipment have been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peramangk
.
document with pics is publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_399d47sffff
"The reasons for stockpiling and hiding this ammunition " by these
racist white Zionist fundamentalist christian extremists clearly needs
to be ascertained , and "we haven't located those weapons as yet." ,
located not far from ' "Blackfellows creek" in Jamie Briggs MP MAYO
electorate , and further " honeypots " will need to be set up ASAP to
expose all the racist criminals "lurking in the shadows " pretending
to be upright law abiding patriotic citizens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Mayo
document with pics is publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_399d47sffff
.
Ms Rankine says she is aware of complaints that children had been
promised in marriage to older followers.
.
"[The department is] aware of some concerns around people close to the
children," she said.
.
Senator Xenophon says he has been asking Ms Rankine's department to
launch an investigation into sect activities.
.
He says the State Government must protect children who may be
involved in the sect, which believes the end of the world will be in
2012.
"We need to know where the kids are. We need an urgent assessment as
to whether they are safe," he said.
"Given these police raids, given there are guns involved, that these
people believe in the end of the world, you've got to be concerned
about the welfare of their children."
.
Jonestown was the informal name for the Peoples Temple Agricultural
Project, an intentional community in northwestern Guyana formed by the
Peoples Temple, an American cult led by Christian Zionist Pastor Jim
Jones. It became internationally notorious when, on November 18, 1978,
918 people died in the settlement as well as in a nearby airstrip and
in Georgetown,
A total of 909 zionist christian Temple members died in Jonestown,
all but two from apparent cyanide poisoning administeed by the
christian PARENTS , in an event termed "revolutionary suicide" by
Zionist Christian Pastor Jones and some christian members on an
audio tape of the event and in prior discussions when he realized
jesus was NOT going to save him from facing justice.
,
The WAKO massacre was equally insane , Branch Davidian Seventh Day
Adventists (also known as "The Branch") are a Protestant sect . As the
group gained members, the leadership moved the church to a hilltop
several miles east of Waco, which they named Mount Carmel, after a
mountain in Israel
In 1959 Florence Houteff (widow of founder Victor Houteff) announced
that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ was about to take place, and
members were told to gather at the center to await this event. Many
built houses, others stayed in tents, trucks or buses, and most sold
their possessions.[5]
In mid-1989, a Davidian named Wayman Dale Adair visited George Roden
to discuss Adair's vision of being God's chosen messiah. Roden killed
Adair with an axe. Roden was found guilty, but insane, and committed
to a mental hospital.
After the death of Lois and the probate case, Howell attempted to gain
control of the Mt Carmel center by force. George Roden had dug up the
casket of Anna Hughes from the Davidian cemetery and had challenged
Howell to a resurrection contest to prove who was the rightful heir.
Howell instead went to the police and claimed Roden was guilty of
corpse abuse. By October 31, 1987 the county prosecutors had refused
to file charges without proof and so on November 3, 1987 Howell and
seven armed companions attempted to access the Mt. Carmel chapel with
the goal of photographing the body in the casket. George Roden was
advised of the interlopers and grabbed an Uzi in response. The
sheriff's department responded about 20 minutes into the gunfight.
.
Jewish Zionists are even MORE Insane when forced to face realty thier
GODs are useless
Masada is the name for a site of ancient fortifications in the South
District of Palestine on top of an isolated rock plateau, of the
Judean Desert overlooking the Dead Sea. After the First Jewish-War a
siege of the fortress by troops of the Roman Empire led to the mass
suicide preferred death to surrender when their GOD failed to save
them .
When they entered the fortress, however, the Romans discovered that
its 960 inhabitants had set all the buildings but the food storerooms
ablaze and committed mass suicide rather than face certain capture,
defeat
.
The Lord's Resistance Army (also Lord's Resistance Movement a
zionist sectarian Christian group formed in 1987, It is led by Joseph
Kony, who proclaims himself the "spokesperson" of God and a spirit
medium, primarily of the Holy Spirit .
His father was a lay apostle of the Catholic Church and his mother was
an Anglican, Kony was an altar boy for several years.was one of many
premillennialist groups that sprang up in Acholiland in the wake of
the wildly popular Holy Spirit Movement funded and trained by western
Zionist christian Missionaries and claims to be establishing a
theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments [14][21]
The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including
murder, abduction, mutilation, sexual enslavement of women and
children, and forcing children to participate in hostilities.[22]
has abducted an estimated 30,000 children and displaced 1.6 million
people since its rebellion began in 1986.[4][5][6]
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/20/2904812.htm
If you notice any fundamentalist Christians living near YOU report
them to the nearest Police station ASAP
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Police raided 12 properties including a farm near Mount Compass, south
of Adelaide, which they say possibly was being used for weapons
training.
.
They found 35,000 rounds of ammunition for high-powered guns but not
the AK47 guns themselves.
.
Three key leaders of the group are missing, including Rocco Leo, also
known as Brother Rock, who is the ministry's founder.
.
Four arrests have been made over the weapons find.
.
Police say they want to know what has happened to millions of dollars
donated by followers that vanished along with with the Christian
Pastors , Sadly he has ALREADY exported his insanity far and wide for
generations of gullible peoples to continue to suffer his delusional
insanity Zionist christian and jewish madness
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
PTI
The Pioneer
Friday, May 21, 2010
Islamabad - After blocking Facebook and Youtube, Pakistani
authorities on Friday further widened the crackdown on websites with
blasphemous contents by restricting access to popular social
networking website Twitter.
Pakistani users were unable to log into Twitter after internet
service providers blocked access to the site.
When users tried to log into site, there browsers displayed a message
that said "this site is restricted."
Over the past two days, Pakistan Telecommunication Authority has
blocked websites like Facebook and Youtube, citing "sacrilegious
contents" on the websites as the reason for the action.
The crackdown began after the Lahore High Court issued an order for
blocking Facebook over a page hosting a contest for blasphemous
caricatures of Prophet Mohammad.
Over 450 URLs have been blocked so far by the authorities. Pakistan
Telecommunication Authority (PTA) yesterday said that YouTube had
been blocked due to "sacrilegious contents" but did not point to
specific material on the website that prompted the authorities to
block it.
The government acted against both Facebook and YouTube after it
failed to persuade the websites to remove the "derogatory material,"
the statement said.
http://dailypioneer.com/257303/And-now-Pak-blocks-Twitter.html
Doug
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On May 21, 1:19 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Pak blocks YouTube, Facebook
>
Why dont all the christians in Pakistan simply go live in USA UK and
Australia then nobody would want to see pics of the prophet
**************************
Fucking islamotard, there aren't many Christians, Sikhs or Hindus
left in your islamonazi shithole to leave.
Topaz
Guenter Deckert was arrested and served five years in prison in
Germany for translating a speech by Fred Leuchter into German.
Germar Rudolf
Accused, tried and convicted in Germany. Career and doctorate
dissertation ruined. Driven into exile.
Background and contribution: This brilliant, German-trained chemist
re-examined Auschwitz, Birkenau and other installations and buildings,
testing rocks, soil and other physical samples for traces of Zyklon B.
Following the pioneering work of Fred Leuchter, he put the final nail
into the coffin of the Auschwitz story. Even though he did scientific
work and was utterly apolitical, Rudolf's home and office were raided,
computers seized etc. He was charged and tried in Germany for not
believing in the standard Auschwitz story. As a scientist, he found
the "gassing" claims to be scientifically untenable and, therefore,
absurd. A modern day Galileo, Rudolf was found guilty and convicted
because he refused to renounce scientific facts and his own scientific
tests and findings. He was facing jail when he went into exile with
his young wife and two babies. He now edits and publishes devastating
refutations of the Allied Propaganda claims in a German-language
journal. The Holocaust Enforcers are dogging his steps, and he faces
endless hassles and trials, should the "German" vassal authorities
ever get a hold of him. Z|ndel expert witness in chemistry in the
Munich trial in 1991 - disallowed by the judge at the request of the
prosecution.
Ahmed Rami
Tried, convicted and imprisoned in Sweden.
Background and contribution: Rami is a former Moroccan military
officer living in exile in Sweden, where he used to run "Radio Islam",
a radio program that was closed down due to Holocaust Lobby pressure.
He was tried and convicted in Sweden for his Revisionist views and
served a nine month prison term. Now he runs a much-visited,
multilingual website famous the world over, which has come under
repeated attack by French and Swedish Jewish sources. He won several
court skirmishes, and for the moment seems to hold his own.
An outspoken German Nationalist was sentenced Thursday to two years in
prison without parole for "denying" the Holocaust. Manfred Roeder, 70,
was sentenced for having refered to the Holocaust as "humbug" during
an August 1998 election rally in the eastern German city of Stralsund.
With no First Amendment to protect them, Germans face legal action for
questioning the orthodox Holocaust story. The rally at which Roeder
spoke part of his parliamentary campaign as a candidate for the
National Party of Germany. His imprisonment clearly makes him a
"political prisoner" in Germany.
During his trial, Roeder said a tape of his speech had been
"manipulated and falsified." Roeder asserted that statements that
would have cleared him were edited out. The judge, however, agreed
with three witnesses who said the tape was genuine. The Roeder case
exemplifies the lack of freedom in today's Germany.
Adapted from: The Associated Press
Thursday, Dec. 2, 1999; 12:52 p.m. EST
Udo Walendy
Convicted and imprisoned in Germany for 15 months, even though already
in his seventies and in poor health with a serious heart condition.
Background and contribution: A prolific German researcher, writer and
publisher of numerous books and a series of popular booklets called
"Historische Tatsachen"- ("Historical Truths") including the German
version of "Did Six Million Really Die?" and the German language
version of the Leuchter Report #1 - Walendy was dragged before the
courts numerous times. His home and offices were frequently raided by
the police. Business files, books, printing plates and computers were
confiscated. Z|ndel advisor and witness in the 1985 and 1988 Great
Holocaust Trials.
Austrian engineer, Froelich, says gassings impossible as alleged
Posted by Hannover on June 14, 2000 at 20:57:56:
Deposition of Wolfgang Froelich during the recent trial of Swiss
revisionist Jurgen Graf (condemned to 15 months imprisonment and
18,000 SwF in monetary penalties for investigating the "Holocaust" in
Russian archives and publishing the results, as well as a booklet
titled "On the Decline of Swiss Freedom").
Froelich is an Austrian engineer and an expert witness whose field of
expertise are process engineering and gas applications. He
told the court he has carried out numerous gassings to exterminate
pests and infectious microbes. Here is how he answers the
questions by public prosecutor Aufdenblatten:
Aufdenblatten: "In your opinion were mass gassings with Zyklon B
possible?"
Froelich: "No".
Aufdenblatten: "Why not?"
Froelich: "The pesticide Zyklon B is hydrocyanic acid absorbed in a
granular-shaped carrier substance. It is released though
contact with the air. The evaporation point of hydrocyanic acid is
25.7 degrees (Celsius). The higher the temperature, the more
rapid is the rate of evaporation. The delousing chambers in which
Zyklon B was used in NS (German wartime) camps and
elsewhere were heated to 30 degrees and higher, so that the
hydrocyanic acid would be released rapidly from the carrier
granules. However, in the half-underground mortuaries of the
Auschwitz-Birkenau crematories, where witnesses claim that mass
killings with Zyklon B took place, the temperatures were much lower.
Even if one allows for the warming of the spaces by the
body warmth of the hypothetical prisoners, the temperature would not
have been more than 15 degrees, even in summer time.
Consequently, it would have taken many hours for the hydrocyanic acid
to evaporate.
"According to eyewitness reports, the victims died very quickly. The
witnesses mention time frames of 'instantaneous' to '15
minutes'. To be able to kill the gas chamber prisoners in such a short
time, the Germans would have had to use ridiculously large
amounts of Zyklon-I estimate from 40 to 50 kilograms for each gassing.
This would have made any work in the gas chamber
fundamentally impossible. The special detachment (Sonderkommando)
people, whom the witnesses say were assigned the task
of clearing out (dead bodies) from them (the gas chambers), would have
collapsed immediately upon entering the rooms, even if
they were wearing gas masks. Enormous amounts of hydrocyanic acid
would have streamed out into the open, and would have
poisoned the entire camp".
Froehlich's statement corroborates the investigations and declarations
of such specialists as gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter,
Austrian engineer Walter Lueftl, American research chemist William B.
Lindsay, German chemist Germar Rudolf, and German
engineer Wofgang Schuster.
Now comes another interesting bit. Immediately following Froelich's
statement, here is what public prosecutor Aufdenblatten
had to say to him:
Aufdenblatten: "I hereby ask the court to bring charges against you
for racial discrimination, on the basis of Article 261 (the
Anti-Racism Law) or otherwise I'll do it myself".
So this is how Zyklon B killed all the millions and why "Anti-Racism"
Laws are needed! Defence attorney Stehrenberger could
only inform the court that in view of this blatant intimidation of the
witness , he would withdraw from the case. He later
expressed again his objections to the amazing proceedings, and resumed
his duties as defence attorney. To no avail, of course:
Judge Andrea Staubli (to Graf): "Can't you imagine that Jews feel
offended by your books?"
Graf: "Yes, and many non-Jews as well. The brain-washing has been so
thorough that anyone who inadvertently stumbles upon
the truth would be completely upset".
Staubli: "And don't you care if Jews feel offended by your books?"
Graf: "Edgar Bronfman (the president of the Jewish World Congress)
said recently that Switzerland is like a man who has to
have his feet held in the fire before he sees reason. Can't you
imagine that a Swiss person would feel offended by that? Why is it
that only Jewish feelings are taken into account and never the
feelings of non-Jews?"
Graf got his 15 months and 18,000 SwF. His publisher Gerhard
Foerster-a 78 years old man suffering from several illnesses,
who needs a wheel chair to go around-got 12 months imprisonment and
53,000 SwF, assorted financial punishment.
From: David Duke's _My_Awakening_ [Free Speech Press: Covington,
LA, 1998,
pp. 418-419]
A prime example of the persecution of the Holocaust questioners is the
story of historian David Irving. His books are found in almost every
library in the world. Irving has written more than thirty volumes on
the Second World War published by a half dozen of the most prominent
publishers in the Western World, including: The Viking Press, Harper &
Row, Little, Brown, Simon & Schuster, and Avon Books.
The most respected historians in the world, including A.J.P. Taylor,
Trevor Roper, Gordon Craig, and Stephen Ambrose have praised his
works. He has researched in the German State Archives for more than
thirty years, as well as in the U.S. National Archives, the British
Public Records Office, the government archives of Australia, France,
Italy and Canada,-and even the former Soviet Secret State Archives.
He was the first historian to challenge the validity of the widely
heralded (and later debunked) _Hitler_Diaries_ [846] In the course of
his wideranging research, Irving has uncovered many documents that
challenge parts of the Holocaust orthodoxy.
While he was in Germany, Irving quoted the videotaped admission of the
head curator of the Auschwitz State Museum, Dr. Francizek Piper.
Piper had admitted that the facility shown to the world (and more than
40 million visitors) for 40 years - as a genuine Nazi-built gas
chamber - is not authentic. Polish Communists had actually built it
after the war. For simply quoting Piper's admission, the governent
charged Irving with "Defaming the memory of the dead."
Although he had clear evidence proving the truth of his statement,
Irving was forbidden to present it at his trial or even to call Dr.
Piper as a witness. For making his statements of historical fact, the
German government fined him 30,000 marks. In "the German State's
interest" they banned him from using the German State Archives where
he had labored for more than thirty years, and to which he had donated
priceless collections of original documents.
The German government has now banned him from the country. Canada,
France, Austria, Italy, South Africa, Australia and many other nations
have subsequently banned him at the behest of the Jews. His
publishers have been harassed and intimidated into canceling
contracts. He has been physically attacked and has had lectures
broken up by pipe-wielding thugs.
In Canada, at the request of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the
authorities seized, shackled, and deported him from the country in
handcuffs. The Toronto Globe & Mail asked why he had been handcuffed
and then answered its own question, 'Did someone think he might use
his typewriter?'
With the American tradition of First Amendment rights, few realize
that in the so-called "Free World" it is possible for a historian to
be jailed simply for voicing an opinion about a historical event of 50
years ago. Speaking inside his home near the U.S. embassy in London,
Irving did an interview with a French television station, again
repeating the fact that the main gas chambers shown to tourists at
Auschwitz are fakes. For making this statement in his own living room
in London, he was prosecuted in the Paris courts. In France, it is
illegal to challenge any of the crimes against humanity as alleged in
the Nuremberg Trials Charter of 1945 - even if one does so in his own
home and in another country.
There are those who say that we should not debate aspects of the
Holocaust anymore than we should debate those who say the world is
flat. Yet, would any knowledgeable person be afraid to debate an
advocate of the flat Earth theory? Would he urge the passage of laws
to prevent the advocate of that theory from speaking, writing or
publishing? Would he try to have his livelihood destroyed, have him
fined thousands of dollars, and if that did not work, cast him into
prison?
I believe in freedom of speech because I am not afraid. I believe
that my ideas are well reasoned and that I can back up my opinions
with logic and evidence. In an atmosphere of free and open
discussion, I fear not, for there is not a truth that I dread. What
do the opponents of David Irving, or of all revisionists, fear?
Our libraries and schools are extremely well stocked with Holocaust
literature. Newspapers and magazines surge with an endless stream of
related stories. Theater and television screens light up with drama,
commentary, interviews, and images of the Holocaust. It would seem
that with this much overkill, there should be little to fear from the
David Irvings of the world - unless of course, they think that his
evidence is convincing, his reasoning sound and his presentation
eloquent. Thus, to protect their popular version of the Holocaust,
they seek to hound this man to the ends of the Earth.
What "historical fact" is so weak that it must be protected by terror,
by jail, and deportation? What do the opponents of David Irving and
the other revisionists fear? Are the revisionist arguments so
convincing that their opponents must use naked political oppression to
silence them?
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Most countries today do not have free speech. A group that is doing
something about it is the Canadian Free Speech league. They have
lawyers and fight for free speech in the courts. Their address is Box
101, 255 Menzies Street, Victoria, B.C. V8V 2G6, Western Canada.
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