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Cracky the HEADCRACKER!

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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6. he is close the to the tri-cities area
7. he may live in Bristol and visits Kingsport regularly
8. he left a near perfect voice-print on a Wave file
9. he can write coherent English when pointing out faulty
Virii
software
10. he has a collection of fire-arms and target shoots
carries
around a .45

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DAAV0

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Nov 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/26/99
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Get help. You really cannot afford to get left behind as the world moves on
without you.


David Perry
Public Education Director
Trend Micro, Incorporated

-=-"In this country, said the red queen, you need to run as fast as you can,
just to stay in the same place"-=-

www.antivirus.com

Raid Slam

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In article <1999112105...@cotse.com>, "Cracky the HEADCRACKER!"

<anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> 6. he is close the to the tri-cities area
> 7. he may live in Bristol and visits Kingsport regularly

Cracky....

Are you on crack? Just asking. Because, you seem to be in serious need
of a life. Nobody here cares where I live, they are only concerned with
virus reports, virus material, antivirus material and such.

> 8. he left a near perfect voice-print on a Wave file

Umm, yes.. 8bit low quality is near perfect when used with sound
blaster live "environment" settings. (haha!)

> 9. he can write coherent English when pointing out faulty
> Virii software

He can also kill you, honest.

> 10. he has a collection of fire-arms and target shoots
> carries around a .45

Yep, I do.. Still wanna come pay me a visit? Think I won't shoot you?
Think again, son.

Now cracky, go fuckyourself, before you get hurt.

mmm'kay?

Regards,
Raid [SLAM]

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brownb...@hotmail.ca

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Nov 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/28/99
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Concur. I've been following this group for two years now. they haven't
figured Raid out yet. :)
A Bear in the Internet forest
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:03:53 +0200, Dr. Costas Giannakenas MD
<cg...@anon.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:59:26 -0800, Raid Slam
><soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>Raid,
>
>Why the heck do you bother to respond to these <anon...@cotse.com>
>postings? Personally I would never bother.
>
>Can't you see that ou are just playing their game? Whoever he/she/they
>(it?) is that is is carrying on this Raid-slamming is doing a great
>job of getting you pissed off and (even worse) they are making you
>respond in the worst way possible (threats, gun-talk and other shit).
>IMHO you are playing their game and coming off second best.
>
>Friendly suggestion: Don't bother replying to them!


>
>As you said:
>
>>Nobody here cares where I live, they are only concerned with virus reports,
>>virus material, antivirus material and such.
>

>This is true so why not just stick to this? I have found your advice
>on the above matters useful. Hoping that you will see my advice in the
>same light.
>
>To get a few things straight. I don't care much for your virus writing
>as the damage that can be caused by one of your viruses is possibly
>greater than you could imagine - imagine if one of your creations was
>to trash my data. The data concerns patients with cancer, their lab
>tests, their therapies, the course of their disease etc. Loss of this
>data could possibly lead to loss of human lives. Why?
>
>Another example would be if the loss involved data relating to
>research. Cancer research such as that which I am involved in is a
>painful, costly and self-sacrificing task with long nights and
>exhausting hours calling for sacrifices of a normal family life etc.
>Why should all this be swept away in one terrible moment because of
>one of your creations?
>
>(Please don't tell me to keep back-ups. I do - but one can never be
>too sure when data is shared with other colleagues also involved in
>the research and who are not as "paranoid" as I am :-)
>
>On the other hand, I have great respect for your programming skills
>and the knowledge that you obviously possess. Which is probably why I
>make a point of reading your responses when advice/help is requested
>on a.v.c. I just wish that you could put this knowledge to better use.
>
>I am taking the time to write you all this not because you are the
>only VXer "out there" but because I have a feeling that you will
>understand what I am trying to say and who knows... you may even take
>the time to think about what I am saying.
>
>Just some personal thoughts...
>
>Regards,
>
>Costas Giannakenas MD, PhD

Raid Slam

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Nov 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/28/99
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In article <01n04sg3tif73504t...@4ax.com>, Dr. Costas

Giannakenas MD <cg...@anon.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:59:26 -0800, Raid Slam
> <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Raid,
> Why the heck do you bother to respond to these
> postings? Personally I would never bother.

Sorry for clipping the an...@cotse.com thing, hit the wrong key. It's
been a long day...

I responded to them originally because I was curious as to where they
get this "information" from. Surely they aren't reading too many
tabloids.

> Can't you see that ou are just playing their game? Whoever
> he/she/they (it?) is that is is carrying on this Raid-slamming is >
doing a great job of getting you pissed off and (even worse) they are >

making yourespond in the worst way possible (threats, gun-talk and > >
other shit).

Yea. I guess I should just ignore them. People will believe whatever
they want too, regardless if it's true or not. Take the "I know who
raid is" post. A fucking riot that one was. Yet, more then likely;
somebody out there probably believes that bullshit. Which doesn't sit
all that great with me, that someone could think those things are in my
life, or that my life is anything like those. Ah well, I expected that
some/most would have a problem if I even tried discussing viruses with
them. See, people ignore the few good/decent things I've done, and
focus only on the bad things. That doesn't tell me I should stop
writing viruses, it only furthers my desire to write more destructive
ones. A sort of "So thats what you think eh asshole? Well, what ya
think now fuxor?".. Sure, a bit immature, but...


> IMHO you are playing their game and coming off second best.
> Friendly suggestion: Don't bother replying to them!

Suggestion noted. FYI, I'm not going to respond to any more of them.
i've clogged this newsgroup up enough with it, and ruined my
credibility with a number of people. If Jed thinks I don't know what
I'm talking about, that's fine. he doesn't pay my salary; his opinions
of me don't mean anything.

> This is true so why not just stick to this? I have found your
> advice on the above matters useful. Hoping that you will see my
advice > in the same light.

Your advice is well taken, and I thank you for it.

> To get a few things straight. I don't care much for your virus
> writing as the damage that can be caused by one of your viruses is >
possibly greater than you could imagine - imagine if one of your >
creations was to trash my data.

My hope is that you will never encounter a virus of mine, As you've
done nothing to me. However, should you ever come across one of mine,
just email me, or write a note here; and I'll contact you with removal
instructions. I know it's not much, but...

> The data concerns patients with cancer, their lab
> tests, their therapies, the course of their disease etc. Loss of
> this data could possibly lead to loss of human lives. Why?

I don't want to harm anybody in that way. Noted exception: Jed connors
(cracky?) I lost a family member to cancer a few years ago... So i have
an idea how important your research is to you.

> Why should all this be swept away in one terrible moment because of
> one of your creations?
> (Please don't tell me to keep back-ups. I do - but one can never be
> too sure when data is shared with other colleagues also involved in
> the research and who are not as "paranoid" as I am :-)

The first thing I was going to do is tell you to get backups, but you
beat me to it. :) I tell you what, I won't finish the storm trooper
virus; nor any other ones. I'm going to be redoing my website soon, and
the virus binaries on it might be removed. Available by email request
only. This should keep them out of most would-be harm doers hands.

I can't do anything about Toadie or Termite, as they've made it wild,
and they aren't coming home... But, I can prevent Storm Trooper and
others (mine) from ever becoming wild.

> On the other hand, I have great respect for your programming skills
> and the knowledge that you obviously possess. Which is probably
> why I make a point of reading your responses when advice/help is
> requested on a.v.c.

I thank you kindly. It's a pity I didn't know anyone like you growing
up, i might not be as much of an asshole as I am today if I had..

> I just wish that you could put this knowledge to better
> use.

Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them. Notice, i
said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself have been
treated in my short miserable life (ah fuck it, go ahead cracky, nail
me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the "nail me, nail you"
concept. I've been nailed since I began breathing.. if I had my way,
I'd long be dead... but, thats a different topic, so I won't bore you
with my life story.

> I am taking the time to write you all this not because you are the
> only VXer "out there" but because I have a feeling that you will
> understand what I am trying to say and who knows... you may even
> take the time to think about what I am saying.

I understand what your trying to say, and I'm sorry if one of my
viruses ever does cause you harm. Your clearly one of the few people on
this planet that doesn't just make my skin crawl.

jed_c...@my-deja.com

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On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:31:41 -0800, Raid Slam
<soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>In article <01n04sg3tif73504t...@4ax.com>, Dr. Costas
>Giannakenas MD <cg...@anon.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:59:26 -0800, Raid Slam
>> <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Raid,
>> Why the heck do you bother to respond to these
>> postings? Personally I would never bother.
>
>Sorry for clipping the an...@cotse.com thing, hit the wrong key. It's
>been a long day...
>
>I responded to them originally because I was curious as to where they
>get this "information" from. Surely they aren't reading too many
>tabloids.
>

>> Can't you see that of are just playing their game? Whoever
>> he/she/they (it?) is that is carrying on this Raid-slamming is


>>doing a great job of getting you pissed off and (even worse) they are
>

>making you respond in the worst way possible (threats, gun-talk and


>>other shit).
>
>Yea. I guess I should just ignore them. People will believe whatever
>they want too, regardless if it's true or not. Take the "I know who
>raid is" post. A fucking riot that one was. Yet, more then likely;

>somebody out there probably believes that bull shit. Which doesn't sit


>all that great with me, that someone could think those things are in my
>life, or that my life is anything like those. Ah well, I expected that
>some/most would have a problem if I even tried discussing viruses with
>them. See, people ignore the few good/decent things I've done, and
>focus only on the bad things. That doesn't tell me I should stop
>writing viruses, it only furthers my desire to write more destructive

>ones. A sort of "So that what you think eh asshole? Well, what a
>think now furor?".. Sure, a bit immature, but...
>
Here's a freak'n spoiled bitch-boy who is crying in his beer about the
world not knowing about the "good" things he's done. Yeah. Al Capone
use to bribe the church with tons of "charity" to keep them on his side.
Hitler even kissed a baby or two.

In light of the misery you have caused, you virus-writing piece of shit,
a few "good" things are totally insignificant – if you've ever done any
"good" at all. I highly doubt it


You're a narcissistic spoiled shit who thinks of no one but himself. I
pity your wife and kids – if you have either – which I doubt, unless you
married some 300 lbs. fat slob bitch nobody else wanted.

>
>> IMHO you are playing their game and coming off second best.
>> Friendly suggestion: Don't bother replying to them!
>
>Suggestion noted. FYI, I'm not going to respond to any more of them.

>I've clogged this newsgroup up enough with it, and ruined my


>credibility with a number of people. If Jed thinks I don't know what
>I'm talking about, that's fine. he doesn't pay my salary; his opinions
>of me don't mean anything.
>
>> This is true so why not just stick to this? I have found your
>> advice on the above matters useful. Hoping that you will see my
>advice in the same light.

Oh, kissy-poo.

>Your advice is well taken, and I thank you for it.
>

Kissy-poo back to you.

>> To get a few things straight. I don't care much for your virus
>> writing as the damage that can be caused by one of your viruses is
>>possibly greater than you could imagine - imagine if one of your
>>creations was to trash my data.
>
>My hope is that you will never encounter a virus of mine, As you've
>done nothing to me. However, should you ever come across one of mine,
>just email me, or write a note here; and I'll contact you with removal
>instructions. I know it's not much, but...
>
>

Oh, how touching. Raidy has found an understanding daddy.


>
>
>> The data concerns patients with cancer, their lab
>> tests, their therapies, the course of their disease etc. Loss of
>> this data could possibly lead to loss of human lives. Why?
>
>I don't want to harm anybody in that way. Noted exception: Jed connors
>(cracky?) I lost a family member to cancer a few years ago... So i have
>an idea how important your research is to you.
>

It would be nice if you simultaneously got cancer of every major organ
and limb, especially your typing hands and vocal chords. (the latter to
cover the chance voice recognition ever gets off the ground.)


>
>> Why should all this be swept away in one terrible moment because of
>> one of your creations?
>> (Please don't tell me to keep back-ups. I do - but one can never be
>> too sure when data is shared with other colleagues also involved in
>> the research and who are not as "paranoid" as I am :-)
>
>The first thing I was going to do is tell you to get backups, but you
>beat me to it. :) I tell you what, I won't finish the storm trooper
>virus; nor any other ones. I'm going to be redoing my website soon, and
>the virus binaries on it might be removed. Available by email request
>only. This should keep them out of most would-be harm doers hands.
>

Only available by email? Oh, that absolves you again of any
responsibility for the damage done? you are a total fuck. An
irresponsible, arrogant, dangerous, delusional fuck.


>
>I can't do anything about Toadie or Termite, as they've made it wild,
>and they aren't coming home... But, I can prevent Storm Trooper and
>others (mine) from ever becoming wild.
>
>> On the other hand, I have great respect for your programming skills
>> and the knowledge that you obviously possess. Which is probably
>> why I make a point of reading your responses when advice/help is
>> requested on a.v.c.
>>

Another Raidy fan? Another member of the non-judgmental generation.
Another jerk who thinks freedom means license.


>
>I thank you kindly. It's a pity I didn't know anyone like you growing
>up, i might not be as much of an asshole as I am today if I had..
>

Jeez, Raidy. I'm about to break out in tears. You pathetic piece of
ambulatory excrement. Spare us your self pity. Spare us your
rationalizing as to why its okay for you to get even with the world
because your failure of a mother didn't bounce your tush on her knee
often enough.


>
>> I just wish that you could put this knowledge to better
>> use.
>
>Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
>give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
>deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
>

Ladies and gentlemen, here we have the truth as to what is behind this
wretched excuse for a human being who revels in the writing of his
malevolent viruses.


>
>Notice, i
>said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself have been
>treated in my short miserable life (ah fuck it, go ahead cracky, nail
>me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the "nail me, nail you"
>concept. I've been nailed since I began breathing.. if I had my way,

>I'd long be dead... but, that a different topic, so I won't bore you
>with my life story.
>
You pathetic fuck! Many of us were raised in circumstances that would
have killed an incompetent shit such as you. Despite this, the vast
majority of us would NEVER do what you do to people. The difference is
called CHARACTER. Something a pitiful turd like you knows nothing of.


>
>> I am taking the time to write you all this not because you are the
>> only VXer "out there" but because I have a feeling that you will
>> understand what I am trying to say and who knows... you may even
>> take the time to think about what I am saying.
>

You gotta be queer, buddy. Is another one of your hobbies picking up
dope using kids and "helping" them. Maybe you should be in one of those
pedo groups. Maybe you already are.


>
>I understand what your trying to say, and I'm sorry if one of my
>viruses ever does cause you harm. Your clearly one of the few people on
>this planet that doesn't just make my skin crawl.
>

Oh, for chrissakes, adopt this ridiculous excuse for an adult and put
him back in diapers and see if you can straighten out what his momma
did. But take away his freaking computer for a decade of two so we
don't have to listen to anymore sob stories from this self-centered
"male" heroine of some twisted soap opera taking place in his sick mind.
>

>Regards,
>Raid [SLAM]
>


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<jed_c...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:81so6c$lao$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:31:41 -0800, Raid Slam
> <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <01n04sg3tif73504t...@4ax.com>, Dr. Costas
> >Giannakenas MD <cg...@anon.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:59:26 -0800, Raid Slam
> >> <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> Raid,
> >> Why the heck do you bother to respond to these
> >> postings? Personally I would never bother.
> >
Dr. Giannakenas appeals to the issues and he actually has a dialog with the
subject and they reach "some" common understandings. Amazing! Of course, JC,
uses this opportunity "slap the shit" out of you know who and to imply Dr. G
is some kind of ass-licking toadie.

I guess I only read this crap because I'm still amazed that people will find
it easier to attack the personalities than to debate the isssues.

Dr. G deserves a hand. JC deserves nothing.

Frederic Bonroy

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jed_c...@my-deja.com wrote:

> It would be nice if you simultaneously got cancer of every major organ
> and limb, especially your typing hands and vocal chords.

I suppose you have never met someone who suffers from cancer otherwise
you wouldn't drivel such bullshit. I work for such people every day and
believe me, they really suffer more than anybody will ever suffer from
a computer virus no matter how destructive it is.

You are an asshole, but I do not hope that you will ever get cancer.


Dalton

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>>>>>Oh, how touching. Raidy has found an understanding daddy.<<<<

not the case connors...just an intelligent and considerate person ....

Raidey we gotta get together on that other Idea..=]..that should put a bug
up the butts of a few flamers..;)

Best Wishes Dalt

Dalton

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>>>>>Dr. G deserves a hand. JC deserves nothing.<<<<<<

I agree whole heartedly..=]

Dalt

Raid Slam

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In article <81so6c$lao$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, jed_c...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Here's a freak'n spoiled bitch-boy who is crying in his beer about
> the world not knowing about the "good" things he's done. Yeah. Al
> Capone use to bribe the church with tons of "charity" to keep them on
> his side. Hitler even kissed a baby or two.

Your too many laughs Jed. Your pissing all over yourself over SOFTWARE.
I'm not hitler, I've never killed anybody. I've written a few rogue
(aver term) programs that some people have a problem with, but that's
no reason to get into hysterics about it. I could be writing DoSing
software instead. (Well, I have written a few little DoSing utilities,
but...)

The most hillarious thing about you Jed, is you make a big deal, and
attack me directly for A FEW PROGRAMS, a few measily little SOFTWARE
PROGRAMS which can be removed; providing you have more brain matter
then that found in your common snail.

Below, You make unfounded and brash attacks against myself, and even my
family. You call me a twisted bastard for writing software. You make it
appear as if I invented the atomic bomb and bombed somebody with it.
Such bullshit Jed.

You'd actually want somebody to get cancer and die just because that
person wrote software? And you call me a sicko? Have a look in the
mirror sometime, your considerably worse off then I am.

> In light of the misery you have caused, you virus-writing piece of

> shit, a few "good" things are totally insignificant – if you've ever


> done any "good" at all. I highly doubt it

You could be right Jed, the few good programs I've written could be
used by criminals. One even sorts your mail for the washington DC post
office. And your right, it's probably not working correctly; it's
delivering your mail. <snicker>

I'm almost sorry I can't tell you the name of the program, or which
branc it's being used in. I'd love too, really.. But, if I did that,
You'd know who I really am. (My real names all over the damn thing, due
to those pesky "copyrights" <g>)

I can't tell you the names of the other legimitate software I've
written either Jed, god knows what you might do with the "information"
you'd gain. It's obvious you have a problem with anyone who shows just
a hint more knowledge on a PC then yourself. When's the last time you
wrote anything? Oh, heh, couldn't quiet grasp visual basic eh? :)

> You're a narcissistic spoiled shit who thinks of no one but
> himself.

Spoiled? Bawahahaha. Your so funny Jed, really. All this time you've
spent attacking me, and it seems the majority of ACV are liking you
less then myself. Somethings wrong with that isn't it Jed...? :)

Could it be, that they realize.. hey, it's software; it's not as if I'm
playing with anthrax and testing it's ability to kill on small cities
now is it? But you sure seem to think it's similiar. Let's see what
else you bitch about below.. (Btw, I feel it's time I ask if you are
male or female. the mannerisms your using would indicate female; during
the once a month session)

> I pity your wife and kids – if you have either – which I doubt,


> unless you married some 300 lbs. fat slob bitch nobody else wanted.

I wonder, do you have Kids Jed? Do you teach them those type of
manners? See, I've written a few possibly bad programs, Programs Jed..
can you say Programs? And what have you contributed to the world? Not a
fucking thing. All you do, is whine bitch and moan about a few programs
that you aren't ever likely to see. You know what Jed, your an insecure
fucked up little pussy whipped child.

> Oh, kissy-poo.

Once again Jed, we see your maturity level is far lower then mine. and
I suppose to some, I'm supposed to be the bad guy. yet, you've compared
me to al capone and hitler for christs sake. That shows that you care
little for the people those bastards have harmed, and that your a
fucked up little panzi. But nobody has to take my word for it, All they
have to do is read these posts from you.


> Oh, how touching. Raidy has found an understanding daddy.

LoL! You crack me up Jed. Just when I thought my day was rather shitty,
here you are with your ever so hypocritical bullshit posts.

> It would be nice if you simultaneously got cancer of every major
> organ and limb, especially your typing hands and vocal chords. (the
> latter to cover the chance voice recognition ever gets off the >
ground.)

This is what I was saying above. Your a fruitcake Jed, Do the world a
favor; and off yourself. mm'kay? :)

> Only available by email? Oh, that absolves you again of any
> responsibility for the damage done? you are a total fuck. An
> irresponsible, arrogant, dangerous, delusional fuck.

dangerous? LoL! Now your starting to gain some sense Jed.
irresponsible? not hardly. I could pass out the viruses completely
anonymous, to many unsuspecting little fucks. I haven't. Perhaps tho, i
might consider it someday. Would you like that little Jed? :)

Hah! you hypocritical fuck. I'm a "total" fuck for writing a few
programs, and your a saint eh? Wash that shit... oh wait, that IS your
face, my bad.

> Another Raidy fan? Another member of the non-judgmental
> generation. Another jerk who thinks freedom means license.

You wouldn't know what freedom is if it came up and bit a huge chunk
out of your ass. All you know is "hey, he writes viruses; what a
bastard he must be. Ok, so I don't know wtf a virus even is, but I know
he writes them. Gawd, am I showing that I just recently dropped aol?"
heh.

You seem to think everyone who's not "burn the virus writer" is a fan.
Your thinking is seriously fuxored, you have no right even commenting
on mine. You've apparently got many more problems then I ever knew were
possible.

> Jeez, Raidy. I'm about to break out in tears. You pathetic piece
> of ambulatory excrement. Spare us your self pity. Spare us your
> rationalizing as to why its okay for you to get even with the world
> because your failure of a mother didn't bounce your tush on her
> knee often enough.

Ahh, How.... hypocritical (again!) of you Jed. Commenting on one's
family. Using 3rd? (possibly second grade) your mother joke tactics.
Oh, what a good father figure you must be... That is, for a coke addict.

Lay off the Coke son, it'll only rott your brain.. Doh, my bad, your
brain is a little on the soggy side these days ain't it?

> Ladies and gentlemen, here we have the truth as to what is behind
> this wretched excuse for a human being who revels in the writing of
> his malevolent viruses.

Can we say Hypocrite? heh.


> You pathetic fuck! Many of us were raised in circumstances that
> would have killed an incompetent shit such as you. Despite this, the
> vast majority of us would NEVER do what you do to people. The
> difference is called CHARACTER. Something a pitiful turd like you >
knows nothing of.

Considering you know nothing of me, nor my background.. WHy do you feel
as if you can comment on it? Hell, you don't even know my age Jed.

Oh, that's right. I forgot, your the self appointed death dealer to
virus writers... Only, your right hands a little too busy to be
bothered today, right Jed? Whats with the name Jed anyway? Jed clampet?
haha!

You speak of character Jed, only you've shown none whatsoever. You've
attacked myself, my family, even wished I got cancer and died, and you
have the balls to even mention the term character? What a hypocritical
piece of dogshit... No not dogshit, I've seen better dogshit.. I
mean't, frogshit you are.

> You gotta be queer, buddy. Is another one of your hobbies picking
> up dope using kids and "helping" them. Maybe you should be in one of
> those pedo groups. Maybe you already are.

Oh here we go Jed. Tell me, are you trying to tell us your a child
molester who's seeking "help"? It's ok, somebody cares about you.
Nobody here, but somebody somewhere does.

> Oh, for chrissakes, adopt this ridiculous excuse for an adult and
> put him back in diapers and see if you can straighten out what his
> momma did.

Did your mother beat or molest you as a child Jed? it's ok, we're a
family. I'm just trying to help you to overcome it. <g>

> But take away his freaking computer for a decade of two so we
> don't have to listen to anymore sob stories from this self-centered
> "male" heroine of some twisted soap opera taking place in his sick
> mind.

Hah. Awe Jed, don't feel bad. It's not my fault I've already forgotten
more then your snail sized brain could hold regarding these machines.

Really, you can learn about them. There's nothing to be afraid of,
honest.

Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
http://www.coderz.net/Raid

Jed Connors

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People of the World Vs. Raidy the turd:

Prologue:
From: Raid Slam
Subject: Re: sex ta 10 <--Attn: Raid [SLAM]
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:34:53 PST
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Raidy Quote:
":i don't give a damn about most people; people to me are like
insects, they deserve to be treated as cruely (sic) as I can
possibly treat them."

Evidence: From out of the mouth of a turd –

"The most hillarious (sic) thing about you Jed, is you make a

big deal, and attack me directly for A FEW PROGRAMS, a few

measily (sic) little SOFTWARE PROGRAMS which can be removed;


providing you have more brain matter then that found in your
common snail."

"Hah! you hypocritical fuck. I'm a "total" fuck for writing a
few programs, and you're a saint eh?"

"Your pissing all over yourself over SOFTWARE."

"I've written a few rogue (aver term) programs that some people
have a problem with..."

Please notice how Raidy, the Butcher of Newbies, and of the
unlearned and the unsuspecting -- in other words, the trusting,
has redefined virus writing as PROGRAMMING! You will notice
throughout this example he has changed his tactics. He now
produces PROGRAMS and SOFTWARE, not viruses. He redefines a
viruses as a "program that some people have a problem with.

I cannot decide, ladies and gentlemen, whether to laugh or puke
over that last bit of linguistic chicanery.

You will also notice the Nietzschean concept that runs through
all of Raidy's rationalizing his destructive behavior of virus
writing: Nietzsche's "Superman" will survive Raidy's actions.
Those whom do not survive are not fit for survival.

Below,this miscreant again redefines viruses as mere SOFTWARE
PROGRAMS. Sure. And bullets are just a "measily" bit of metal.

>You call me a twisted bastard for writing software. You make it
>appear as if I invented the atomic bomb and bombed somebody with
it.

No, ladies and gentlemen, I did NOT accuse him of nuclear
devastation. Only of devastating totally innocent people whose
data he destroyed.

This Jesse-Jackson-bullshit-defense doesn't even work in hick
town Decatur: "Your honor, we only beat the piss outta him.
It ain't like we had a gun and killed him."

Repeat after me, ladies and gentlemen of the jury:
Raidy doesn't write SOFTWARE. Raidy-the-shitpile writes VIRUSES!


And Raidy saw to it that they entered the wild from his Web page.

Example:
From: Raid Slam <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid>
Subject: Re: sex ta 10 <--Attn: Raid [SLAM]
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Raidy Quote:


"I'm going to be redoing my website soon, and the virus binaries
on it might be removed. Available by email request only. This
should keep them out of most would-be harm doers hands.

I can't do anything about Toadie or Termite, as they've made it
wild,and they aren't coming home..."

But he still intends to make them available to anyone for the
effort at an e-mail. Oh, yeah, Mr. shitpile. I really am WRONG
about you. You are reformed and of sterling character. Out of
the kindness of your black heart, you will force virus passers
to go that extra, difficult step of asking via e-mail.

Wow! That ought to save one or two people. Of course, hundreds,
maybe even thousands will not be helped, though.

>
>You could be right Jed, the few good programs I've written
>could be used by criminals. One even sorts your mail for the
>washington DC post office. And your right, it's probably not
>working correctly; it's >delivering your mail. <snicker>

(Snipped tons more of empty, unproven bragging.)

Remember my previous post regarding Raidy, ladies and gentlemen
of the jury?

abilities: Tries to lie, bullshit, fake it. Runs mouth at
100 MPH. Frequently boasts to have "spanked"
"hacked" or "nuked" others.

If Mr. Raidy had any common decency, he'd give us a break and
shut the fuck up with his phony bullshit. Ain't hard to ask for
the pot in poker because you say you have a straight flush. But
when it comes time to show the cards, Mr. shitpile comes up a
little short. If I remember correctly, Mr. mouth-runner wrote
Toadie and Termite in ASIC. A form of BASIC.

Oh, yes, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this Nietzschean
Superman did not write his viruses in assembly. Not in C. Not
even in the ill reputed VB. No, he wrote them in BASIC!

Bawwwwwwwwwahahahahahaha!

Er, excuse me, ladies and gentlemen. The jury must understand
how much inflated crap we have all heard from this blowhard –
Bawwwwwwhahaha! – Um, the jury will have to excuse me again - but
as I was saying, we have all heard what a genius this
shit-for-brains fart is, and here we find out he wrote his viruses
in BASIC.

Bawwhaha! -- Excuse me again. I'm terribly sorry. I'll do my best
to keep that from happening – Bawwha! – again.

My point is, ladies and gentlemen, this braggart is a STUPID
FUCK of a SPOILED BRAT!

Examples:

"I could pass out the viruses completely anonymous, to many
unsuspecting little fucks. I haven't. Perhaps tho, i might
consider it someday."

"See, people ignore the few good/decent things I've done, and


focus only on the bad things. That doesn't tell me I should stop
writing viruses, it only furthers my desire to write more

destructive ones. A sort of "So thats (sic) what you think eh
asshole? Well, what ya think now fuxor?".

The jury, being mothers and fathers, will notice immediately
the "give-a-dog-a-name-and-he'll-live-up-to-it" syndrome. The
Classic syndrome of the spoiled brat. ""I'm going to do
naughty things and you will feel so guilty for making me do them
because you didn't love me."

Usually, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what goes along with
this is the contemplation of punishing everyone for not loving
him by him committing suicide.

Example:
From: Raid Slam
Subject: Re: sex ta 10 <--Attn: Raid [SLAM]
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:34:53 PST
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Raidy Quote:
"...I was raised with the "nail me, nail you" concept. I've been


nailed since I began breathing.. if I had my way, I'd long be
dead..."

One is tempted to say to Raidy , ladies and gentlemen, save us
the trouble of this trial. Do not blow away Bubbah's head – as
you repeatedly have threatened to do, but rather, BLOW OFF YOUR
OWN EVIL FUCKING, PATHETIC, SELF-PITYING, HEAD!

I must apologize to the jury and to the court for shouting.

However, I think it is time to end this farce. In closing I
wish to remind the jury of another effete Nietzschean, who,
though possessing a single testicle, and never having risen
above corporal, screwed up the world so badly that it still has
not fully recovered. I speak of that slight, effeminate, evil
fart Adolph Hitler.

I ask the jury to find this useless but dangerous fuckwit known
as Raidy guilty. I further suggest he be committed for life to
alt.binaries.hacking.beginner with the rest of the smartass
twelve-year-olds.

(Actually, I'd like to see this virus-writing son of a bitch
quartered in the same cell with Bubbah for about 5 years.)

Yours, respectfully,

Jed Connors

Dalton

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>>>>>>Raidey we gotta get together on that other Idea..=]..that should put a
bug
>up the butts of a few flamers..;)
>
I don't know what you are refering to but I AM NOT FLAMING YOU!!!! <<<<<<<

nonono its nothing Doc just something I was putting to RaiD the other night
on IRC..=]..noting bad I assure you..=]

Best Wishes Dalt

Raid Slam

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In article <3843...@www2.iaol.com>, "Jed Connors"

<UpRaidy'sA...@Homo.Net> wrote:
> People of the World Vs. Raidy the turd:
> Prologue:


More from Clampet, wonder what he has to say this time.


> Please notice how Raidy, the Butcher of Newbies, and of the
> unlearned and the unsuspecting -- in other words, the trusting,
> has redefined virus writing as PROGRAMMING! You will notice
> throughout this example he has changed his tactics. He now
> produces PROGRAMS and SOFTWARE, not viruses. He redefines a

Umm, Jed.. chap. What do you suppose a computer virus is? Have you not
read the FAQ? they are .. "computer PROGRAMS, they are SOFTWARE, the
only difference being, they intentionally replicate either identical
copies of themselves, or similiar ones into other programs and/or other
executable areas on ones hard disk"...

Let's snip some of your illogical ramblings, and get to the best parts..

> If Mr. Raidy had any common decency, he'd give us a break and
> shut the fuck up with his phony bullshit. Ain't hard to ask for
> the pot in poker because you say you have a straight flush. But
> when it comes time to show the cards, Mr. shitpile comes up a
> little short. If I remember correctly, Mr. mouth-runner wrote
> Toadie and Termite in ASIC. A form of BASIC.

Actually, that's not correct. The asic being a form of basic part. It's
an error mentioned in a few Av descriptions is all. "it's ALMOST basic,
but not quiet.. oops, jed don't read so well."

As for showing the cards, You'll find toadie drops a pure asm (written
by me) file search routine, 450 bytes in length.. Didn't mention that
tho, did ya? :)

> Oh, yes, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this Nietzschean
> Superman did not write his viruses in assembly. Not in C. Not
> even in the ill reputed VB. No, he wrote them in BASIC!

Nope, written in assembler AND asic. you should try (haha!) learning a
bit of programming languages before attacking me. Not one single virus
i've written has been in basic. Not one. Every one of them that I've
written in asic does make use of pure assembly as well. (It would
obviously be too hard on your brain for me to explain why this is so).

BASIC.. Hmm, no.. Asic isn't Basic.. it's close, even shares some BASIC
commands, like.. PRINT.. but basic I'm afraid it isn't.

if you'd like to debate programming with me Jed, I'll give you some
time to learn what programming is. I try not to fire on a man who's
several tacos short of a combo plate if you catch my drift.

> Er, excuse me, ladies and gentlemen. The jury must understand

> how much inflated crap we have all heard from this blowhard –
> Bawwwwwwhahaha! – Um, the jury will have to excuse me again - but


> as I was saying, we have all heard what a genius this
> shit-for-brains fart is, and here we find out he wrote his viruses
> in BASIC.

Hmm, not basic. as I've said. Here's something funny as hell, the word
macro virus's you keep hearing about, are all written in basic. VBA to
be exact. melissa, the one that dropped microsofts mail servers, basic
program. Woops. :)

Really Jed, you should learn the capabilities of said langauges. And
learn what basic and asic are, for they aren't one in the same. it
would be like calling c++ assembler. Only a jackass would believe you.
:)

> My point is, ladies and gentlemen, this braggart is a STUPID
> FUCK of a SPOILED BRAT!

A stupid fuck that got the drop on so many people? That is why your
pissing in the wind after all. Make up your mind jed, am I a stupid
fuck as you are now saying, or are you just pissed about viruses in
general?

We already know you ain't very bright.. But, let's continue just for
the fuck of it.

> The jury, being mothers and fathers, will notice immediately
> the "give-a-dog-a-name-and-he'll-live-up-to-it" syndrome. The
> Classic syndrome of the spoiled brat. ""I'm going to do
> naughty things and you will feel so guilty for making me do them
> because you didn't love me."

I'm glad you don't have any kids Jed, you seem like a kid yourself.
Hell, for all we know, you very well could be.

> One is tempted to say to Raidy , ladies and gentlemen, save us

> the trouble of this trial. Do not blow away Bubbah's head – as


> you repeatedly have threatened to do, but rather, BLOW OFF YOUR
> OWN EVIL FUCKING, PATHETIC, SELF-PITYING, HEAD!

You first.

> I must apologize to the jury and to the court for shouting.
> However, I think it is time to end this farce. In closing I
> wish to remind the jury of another effete Nietzschean, who,
> though possessing a single testicle, and never having risen
> above corporal, screwed up the world so badly that it still has
> not fully recovered. I speak of that slight, effeminate, evil
> fart Adolph Hitler.

Your a sick bastard, you know that?

> I ask the jury to find this useless but dangerous fuckwit known
> as Raidy guilty. I further suggest he be committed for life to
> alt.binaries.hacking.beginner with the rest of the smartass
> twelve-year-olds.

Uh Huh.

> (Actually, I'd like to see this virus-writing son of a bitch
> quartered in the same cell with Bubbah for about 5 years.)
> Yours, respectfully,
> Jed Connors

ok Mr clampet, your sister will fuck ... er, see you now.

Regards,
Raid [SLAM]

Jed Connors

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Well, PAX, old habits returning? What do you and your j.o.
session buddy Raidy have planned for the likes of those such
as myself who hate virus writers? Sniffers. Port scanners.
Getting out the War Dialers? How about some spoofing goofing
off? Man! What fun! Just like the old days, eh PAX?

You fucking pathetic asshole. All your mealymouth crap about
having reformed. You're the same stinking little bastard you
always were. To add to it, you've now become Raidy's bitch.

Squeal like pig for Raidy, Pax.

-- Jed Connors --

Zona Franca

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"Liberty 4All" <liber...@mindspring.com> a écrit dans le message:


> Dr. G deserves a hand. JC deserves nothing.

We do not have your enthusiasim in this awarding to the man who is
saying is he the doctor. We can find complications in all he is saying
and does.

We are sure there can not be the true man of medicine having such
learnered educations and applying it in front of name and back of name,
making the tomfoolary in a newsgroup. We are sure the serious and real
medicine man does not have the time to hold the hand of the virus
writer or to sit here all the day. We do not have confidense this is
the real doctor man. It is not possible for one to waste this time when
the people are dying. It can be it has the vactions, but his posts from
the school or clinic. We have concern about such foolishness and
wonder who did waste there money if his learnered designations are
accurate.

More we are concerned is using the cancerous patients in his arguments,
he is using this deased people to make the other feel bad. How it can
be so?? We wonder clearly on this because he is saying do not make the
jest of my cancer patients, I am the medical man who is saving all
these people, you must respect me and my concern for these people.

We do not believe him. He has the smile on the face all day in side
this group, he is playing with the virus write and praising him, how
can the serious medical man have such a happy face and have himself the
sad business of the dead people on his hands. We never see any where
the real doctor behaving in this way. If it is the clown doctor that is
ok. We think he is the clown funny guy doctor.

We do not have the trust or the believe in this man who calls himself
the doctor. Because he is the man who says he saves the cancerious
people, he says he is the serious medical man, do not make fun of his
dieing patients.

We do not belief this clown doctor that have arrived here. We do not
believe it because he is the smoker and the smoking is cancer. Do not
make laughing at my cancerious patient. Do not do it! he says. But he
lights the cigarettes in his office and is smoking away and laughing
with the virus writers.

Dr Costas Giannakenas MD schrieb:

>Actually (this is some coincidence!) I turned away from
>the screen to light a fag and my glance fell upon a something I have >in a frame on the wall. It is the lyrics from "Epitaph" (King Crimson).
>
>Be happy
>Costas
>
> Costas Giannakenas MD, PhD

This is not the serious doctor. This is the fool with the 3 banana hat
and the bells, the Jester.

We can share in your award by the clapping of the hands for the clown,
yes. The sad clown. Clap clap clap!


========
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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:34:08 GMT,
"Zona Franca" <ZonaF...@korum.cu> wrote:

>"Liberty 4All" <liber...@mindspring.com> a écrit dans
>le message:
>
>
>> Dr. G deserves a hand. JC deserves nothing.
>
>We do not have your enthusiasim in this awarding to the man
>who is saying is he the doctor. We can find complications in
>all he is saying and does.
>
>We are sure there can not be the true man of medicine having
>such learnered educations and applying it in front of name and

>back of name,making the tomfoolary in a newsgroup. We are sure


>the serious and real medicine man does not have the time to hold
>the hand of the virus writer or to sit here all the day. We do
>not have confidense this is the real doctor man. It is not
>possible for one to waste this time when the people are dying.
>It can be it has the vactions, but his posts from the school
>or clinic. We have concern about such foolishness and
>wonder who did waste there money if his learnered designations
>are accurate.
>
>More we are concerned is using the cancerous patients in his

>arguments,he is using this deased people to make the other feel

You will notice I never once called Raidy's comforter a Doctor.
I didn't believe it from the start. That's one of the reasons I
raked the good "doctor" over the coals in a prior post.
I know of no doctor who would sit there with such a low class
piece of crap loser like Raidy and sympathize with him.

The gratifying quality of Usenet and Web for the insecure of the
world is that one can run one's mouth a hundred miles an hour
and be anyone they care to be. Look at the grandiose, pompous
position Raidy assumes, when in reality he's nothing but
a very serious loser who has to destroy the lives of other
people, people he doesn't even know, in order to feel he has any
control at all in this world.

The only type of doctor I know that would spend time with such
a sick piece of trash as Raidy would be psychiatrist -- and then
only because he was being paid.

-- Jed Connors --

Jed Connors

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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:17:12 +0200, Dr Costas Giannakenas MD <an...@anon.net> wrote:


>Please ask someone to help you with the syntax of the above and repost
>it when it is comprehensible.
>
>
>Costas Giannakenas MD, PhD
>or Dr Costas Giannakenas MD
>or Dr.med Costas Giannakenas MD
>(Chose whichever you prefer)

Only a true asshole would be derisive of a foreigner because of
his (mis)use of English.

Again, we see what kind asshole Raidy's kissy-poo, j.o. buddy is.

(Isn't it interesting how much time and importance this jerk
"dr." is investing is some loser Virus writer. What's the
matter, "doc," too old to "cruise" anymore? You now have to do
your homo "cruising" in Usenet?)

-- Jed Connors --

Raid Slam

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In article <3843...@www2.iaol.com>, "Jed Connors"
<Jed_C...@home.net> wrote:

> Only a true asshole would be derisive of a foreigner because of
> his (mis)use of English.

Not only Is Jed an arsewipe, he's racist too? I suspected something was
up your ass, I just didn't know what.

> Again, we see what kind asshole Raidy's kissy-poo, j.o. buddy is.
> (Isn't it interesting how much time and importance this jerk
> "dr." is investing is some loser Virus writer. What's the
> matter, "doc," too old to "cruise" anymore? You now have to do
> your homo "cruising" in Usenet?)

Ahh now we see the real Jed. Short dick, little man syndrome. a
text-book classic. Jed, consider this my final post to you. You've
sunken far below what I expected you'd do.

The conversation was amusing, but now; you've really lost any sort of
respect (atleast from me).

Have a good day, Moron.

Regards,
Raid [SLAM]

Liberty 4All

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Zona Franca <ZonaF...@korum.cu> wrote in message
news:Q5L04.4847$Mg.1...@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com...

> "Liberty 4All" <liber...@mindspring.com> a écrit dans le message:
>
>
> > Dr. G deserves a hand. JC deserves nothing.

Following are excerpts from our friends ZonaFranca:

> We do not have your enthusiasim in this awarding to the man who is
> saying is he the doctor
>

> . We have concern about such foolishness and
> wonder who did waste there money if his learnered designations are
> accurate.
>
> More we are concerned is using the cancerous patients in his arguments,
> he is using this deased people to make the other feel bad.
>

If it is the clown doctor that is
> ok. We think he is the clown funny guy doctor.
>
> We do not have the trust or the believe in this man who calls himself
> the doctor. Because he is the man who says he saves the cancerious
> people, he says he is the serious medical man, do not make fun of his
> dieing patients.
>

> But he
> lights the cigarettes in his office and is smoking away and laughing
> with the virus writers.
>
> Dr Costas Giannakenas MD schrieb:
>
> >Actually (this is some coincidence!) I turned away from
> >the screen to light a fag and my glance fell upon a something I have >in
a frame on the wall. It is the lyrics from "Epitaph" (King Crimson).
> >
> >Be happy
> >Costas
> >
> > Costas Giannakenas MD, PhD
>
> This is not the serious doctor. This is the fool with the 3 banana hat
> and the bells, the Jester.
>
> We can share in your award by the clapping of the hands for the clown,
> yes. The sad clown. Clap clap clap!
>
>
> ========
> usario de zona franca

Dear Friends:

Well, you missed the point completely. Perhaps, it's because my post was in
English and not your native language. I do know some Spanish and quite a bit
of French, but likely not good enough to communicate with you so that I'd
make my point any clearer.

The point about Dr. G deserving a hand had to do with "fundamental debate
etiquette". Dr. G addressed (attacked) the issues, not the person. And guess
what? There was a dialog that transcended the usual bullshit sniping that
goes on in NG's when people see things differently.

Your post, from what I read, is devoid, of any issues at all. What is/are
your point(s)? All you've done is attack Dr.G, personally.( I hope you don't
mind this reference to you, Dr? Merely trying to save keystrokes). You refer
to him as a clown and a jester. Elsewhere, in sections I snipped, you
suggest he is insincere and a liar. All I see is sniping and character
defamation. What are the issues that relate to this NG concerning viruses?

You know, it's a funny thing about truth. If you're lucky enough to stumble
onto it, you really don't need to waste your time making a big deal about
it. Wait long enough and someone will come along and make your point for
you. Thank you for helping me make my point.

To summarize, Dr. G deserves a hand for his conduct in this NG. You deserve
a second chance. Please make the most of it.

Sincerely,

Dalton

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>>>>>>>>Well, PAX, old habits returning? What do you and your j.o.
session buddy Raidy have planned for the likes of those such
as myself who hate virus writers? Sniffers. Port scanners.
Getting out the War Dialers? How about some spoofing goofing
off? Man! What fun! Just like the old days, eh PAX?

You fucking pathetic asshole. All your mealymouth crap about
having reformed. You're the same stinking little bastard you
always were. To add to it, you've now become Raidy's bitch.<<<<<<<<

Wrong again as usual conners!!!

Dalt

Dalton

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>>>>>>ignore the familiar posts from <anon...@cotse.com>. So what's your
problem?

>-- Jed Connors --

Costas Giannakenas MD, PhD<<<<<<<


Heya Doc,
Welcome to the world acording to conners..=]..I think you
missed him on his visit last month.Hes another "Cracky" type who thinks that
all virus writers are Evil,Malevolent monsters who should be ignored or
attacked(depending on mood swing).Hes quite funny as between the usual 4
letter expletives he doesnt actually seem to say much other than the normal
"I hope you die" sorrta shite.I get the feeling he has been the unwitting
victim of a viruses payload at some point(was it a book you were writing
conners)..anyways since then hes done little other than flame and flame
without real substance.Oh yes he will probably start giving you a lot of the
usual "Virus author loving asshole" stuff that he gives most people here
that actually bother talking to us..=].of course you will see that your post
to RaiD regarding your work and his obvious programming ability had a wide
ranging effect in that RaiD now intimates that storm trooper will not be
finnished or released.I guess that conners doesnt like the fact that a few
words of wisdom from you achieved much more than any amount of flames he or
his type could ever throw.....

well I better go do some parent things..=]

Speak to ya soon...

regards Dalt

Randy Abrams

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Nov 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/30/99
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Jed Connors <UpRaidy'sA...@Homo.Net> wrote in message
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> However, I think it is time to end this farce. In closing I
> wish to remind the jury of another effete Nietzschean, who,
> though possessing a single testicle, and never having risen
> above corporal, screwed up the world so badly that it still has
> not fully recovered. I speak of that slight, effeminate, evil
> fart Adolph Hitler.

I'm not sure why *you* don't like Adolph Hitler, he was homophobic just like
you are. You are considerably sicker than Raid, and my record shows I am no
proponent of virus writing or spreading.

Randy
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Liberty 4All

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Dec 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/1/99
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Dr Costas Giannakenas MD wrote in message ...

>
>I am glad you think so. Actually it is a matter of principle which
>does not permit me to get into mud-slinging "debates" and make
>personal remarks about others on this (or any) NG. There is the simple
>matter of seeing such low tactics as ridiculous as the very structure
>of NGs, the WWW etc provide the safe distance which permits any fool
>to throw dirt, make threats etc. All those things that they probably
>wouldn't ever have the courage to do face-to-face. I think it is
>extremely ridiculous to do this and I really have no time for these
>people. The fact that I take (take not make) the time to respond to
>some of them is because their "arguements" are so ridiculous that I am
>tempted to tell them so.
>
My feeling has always been that if you can't get your point across without
making it *personal*, well, then you probably don't have a point to make.
Keep making your points, Dr. , and let those who have nothing to say rave
like lunatics.

Best Wishes,

Liberty

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