I compared the two side by side and the Sony has definitely got a much brighter display. The Sony also has a jog dial which might be handy. Sony also comes with a 8mb memory stick while the M505 comes with a fake mmc card. Sony is slightly thicker, but thats due to the internal MP3 player. The M505 seems to be built a little more solid and fits in your hand better. The Sony comes with OS3.5 while the m505 comes with OS 4. I believe both are flashable however.
I compared the two after I already had the M505, I love my M505, but I feel that the Sony is probably a little better value. I would be interested to hear what the Sony's internal speaker sounds like, the m505 is piezoelectric which can't reproduce DTMF tones.
I find the jog dial, in conjunction with the "back" button underneath it on the side of the Clie, very handy. Both are programmable, BTW. Many of my most-used applications can be operated one-handed if necessary. The internal speaker of the Clie does only what the m505's does, though. Just basic tones. MP3 music (and other audio) can be heard through the headphone jack only.
Funny, I find that the SONY fits in my hand better. Less wide, more tapered in depth. To each his own. I don't believe that the extra depth is solely for the MP3 player, though.
I believe the depth of the unit is used to help generate the much brighter screen rather than to accommodate the MP3 player (this is just my impression). I believe that the soon-to-be-released 610 will have the same dimensions as the 710 but it does NOT have the MP3 player.
After five Palms I'm a big fan of the Clie 710 and, based on my month of constant use, recommend it heartily.
> In the states M505 is $449 and the Np710 is $500.
> I compared the two side by side and the Sony has definitely got a much > brighter display. The Sony also has a jog dial which might be handy. > Sony also comes with a 8mb memory stick while the M505 comes with a > fake mmc card. Sony is slightly thicker, but thats due to the > internal MP3 player. The M505 seems to be built a little more solid > and fits in your hand better. The Sony comes with OS3.5 while the > m505 comes with OS 4. I believe both are flashable however.
> I compared the two after I already had the M505, I love my M505, but I > feel that the Sony is probably a little better value. I would be > interested to hear what the Sony's internal speaker sounds like, the > m505 is piezoelectric which can't reproduce DTMF tones.
On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 07:55:17 GMT, Red Knee <bga...@msn.com> wrote: >In the states M505 is $449 and the Np710 is $500.
>I compared the two side by side and the Sony has definitely got a much >brighter display. The Sony also has a jog dial which might be handy. >Sony also comes with a 8mb memory stick while the M505 comes with a >fake mmc card. Sony is slightly thicker, but thats due to the >internal MP3 player. The M505 seems to be built a little more solid >and fits in your hand better. The Sony comes with OS3.5 while the >m505 comes with OS 4. I believe both are flashable however.
>I compared the two after I already had the M505, I love my M505, but I >feel that the Sony is probably a little better value. I would be >interested to hear what the Sony's internal speaker sounds like, the >m505 is piezoelectric which can't reproduce DTMF tones.
The Sony 710 can run programs off the memory sticks but only with 3rd party software. I use Power Run and I love it! I transfered all my programs to a 32MB Memory Stick and it works great. The programs load very fast.
I'm also using Afterburner Hack and clocking 322% on the Benchmark program.
Sony will also be releasing a OS4.0 upgrade soon that will allow the 710 to get 16 bit resolution.
I was debating between the m505 and the 710 and I'm VERY happy with the 710. Good luck!
While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, Warren Henderson said:
; After five Palms I'm a big fan of the Clie 710 and, based on my month of ; constant use, recommend it heartily.
How about the slightly spongy feeling of the screen?
-- Jeffrey Kaplan gor...@gordol.org <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you? The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"I've wanted Santiago dead for so long. I wasn't sure we could really pull it off. Your sure it's done?" "Earth Force One will never return from Io. The powers now yours Clark... Mr. President." (Vice President Clark and Mr. Morden, B5 "Voices Of Authority")
That is indeed an issue if you write on it a lot. But if you write on it a lot, I guess people will buy a keyboard. I think the spongy feeling of the screen is not as a big issue as the dull and dark and much lower resolution screen of m505.
BTW, the screen of the N710C is very beautiful, especially if you have high resolution apps, man can't swith back to 160*160.
Jeffrey Kaplan wrote: > While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, Warren > Henderson said:
> ; After five Palms I'm a big fan of the Clie 710 and, based on my month of > ; constant use, recommend it heartily.
> How about the slightly spongy feeling of the screen?
> -- > Jeffrey Kaplan > gor...@gordol.org <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you? > The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
> "I've wanted Santiago dead for so long. I wasn't sure we could really > pull it off. Your sure it's done?" "Earth Force One will never > return from Io. The powers now yours Clark... Mr. President." (Vice > President Clark and Mr. Morden, B5 "Voices Of Authority")
The feel of the screen hasn't bothered me at all. Yes, it feels a little spongy compared to my old Vx. Different but not worse. And the Graffiti works just as well, as do every touch sensitive application I've used. I constantly write notes, calendar entries and other written input and I never use a keyboard (I had one for my Vx and ended up not using it so I didn't get one for my Clie). No complaints about the feel of the screen.
> That is indeed an issue if you write on it a lot. But if you write on it a > lot, I guess people will buy a keyboard. I think the spongy feeling of the > screen is not as a big issue as the dull and dark and much lower resolution > screen of m505.
> BTW, the screen of the N710C is very beautiful, especially if you have high > resolution apps, man can't swith back to 160*160.
> Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> > While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, Warren > > Henderson said:
> > ; After five Palms I'm a big fan of the Clie 710 and, based on my month of > > ; constant use, recommend it heartily.
> > How about the slightly spongy feeling of the screen?
> > -- > > Jeffrey Kaplan > > gor...@gordol.org <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you? > > The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
> > "I've wanted Santiago dead for so long. I wasn't sure we could really > > pull it off. Your sure it's done?" "Earth Force One will never > > return from Io. The powers now yours Clark... Mr. President." (Vice > > President Clark and Mr. Morden, B5 "Voices Of Authority")
While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, x-guy said:
; That is indeed an issue if you write on it a lot. But if you write on it a ; lot, I guess people will buy a keyboard. I think the spongy feeling of the ; screen is not as a big issue as the dull and dark and much lower resolution ; screen of m505.
Yeah, I've seen them both, and I've played briefly with a demo of each. That's how I know about the slightly spongy feel to the N710C.
; BTW, the screen of the N710C is very beautiful, especially if you have high ; resolution apps, man can't swith back to 160*160.
Since the included photo album app is apparently designed to directly read Cybershot jpegs, I'm planning on using it (most likely the 610C) in conjunction with my Sony digicam. The Clie is a lot more visible in daylight than the display on the back of my camera.
-- Jeffrey Kaplan gor...@gordol.org <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you? The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"Does the word 'privacy' mean anything to you Mr. Garibaldi?" (Dr. Hobbes, B5 "Interludes and Examinations")
