Linux and Quicken
Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A.
Quicken now runs on Linux.
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/supported_applications.php?id=15
According to the vendor you can use Quicken
to prepare your taxes. This must mean that
QuickBooks cannot be far behind.
Mike Block, QuickBooks Tax Cut CPA, 954-566-7540
Founding Member: QuickBooks Advisory Council
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Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A.
<mbl...@blocktax.com> wrote:
>Users may not like some limitations, but
>Quicken now runs on Linux.
>http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/
>
>http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/supported_applications.php?id=15
>
>According to the vendor you can use Quicken
>to prepare your taxes. This must mean that
>QuickBooks cannot be far behind.
Jack Hatfield properly pointed out privately
that we cannot get QuickBooks running on
Linux until we get a replacement for Internet
Explorer. He also said I should check MyBooks,
which seems to be as close as it gets so far.
I agree, but keep hoping.
A second user, who did not give permission for
credit, wrote that he was running Quicken on
Win4Lin under Mandrake 9.0. His post said,
"The advantage of Win4Lin is that the Window
system is running as a task under Linux, so
you do not have to worry about the API's not
being exactly as Windows or the running programs
expect them. They are the Windows API's, not
what Codeweavers thinks the API's are. I also
have the programs running from and accessing
the data files on my Windows partition, so if
I run on windows, the data files are not in
sync, they are the SAME files.
I would like to get the sound working on
Quicken, but the problem is that I haven't
installed Quicken on the Window that is
mounted on Linux. I believe the sound files
have to be in the registry (the dumbest idea
in software history) before Quicken can find
them. The problem with installing is that
I then loose all my updates. I keep hoping
that Intuit will get smart and release a Linux
version of Quicken."
Matthew Miller
>I then loose all my updates. I keep hoping
>that Intuit will get smart and release a Linux
>version of Quicken."
I'm not holding my breath -- after decades of incremental additions, I bet
the code is a huge mess and not very portable. But I hope I'm wrong. :)
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Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>
Victor Roberts
<mbl...@blocktax.com> wrote:
>I keep hoping
>that Intuit will get smart and release a Linux
>version of Quicken."
Well Mike - I don't.
I hope that someone else releases an accounting package for Lunix that
has a user friendly interface.
Since QB is built around IE I can't see Intuit rewriting the code to
eliminate that dependence; after all, they still have old 16-bit DOS
code in Quicken. I also do not believe that Intuit's "culture" would
be acceptable to a large fraction of Linux users. While all Linux
software is certainly not free, the high priced,
pick-the-pockets-of-your-customers model that Intuit uses does not
seem consistent with the Linux open source philosophy.
--
Vic Roberts
http://www.RobertsResearchInc.com
Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A.
>Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A. <mbl...@blocktax.com> wrote:
>>I then loose all my updates. I keep hoping
>>that Intuit will get smart and release a Linux
>>version of Quicken."
>
>I'm not holding my breath -- after decades of incremental additions, I bet
>the code is a huge mess and not very portable. But I hope I'm wrong. :)
You will not need to hold your breath.
This involves a big selling point for
the 12,000 developers that Intuit now
has. A complete rewrite of QuickBooks
is well underway.
Intuit is giving developers access to
code they can reuse.
Tim Kroesen
write something of substance, just like those legendary monkeys... The
company itself seemingly cannot sell the program on new features any
more...and are rife to 'fine print' their new profits out of customers
backsides...
Tim K
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Matthew Miller
>You will not need to hold your breath.
>This involves a big selling point for
>the 12,000 developers that Intuit now
>has. A complete rewrite of QuickBooks
>is well underway.
I can see Quickbooks more likely than Quicken.
>Intuit is giving developers access to
>code they can reuse.
Really? Under what license?
Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A.
>Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A. <mbl...@blocktax.com> wrote:
>>You will not need to hold your breath.
>>This involves a big selling point for
>>the 12,000 developers that Intuit now
>>has. A complete rewrite of QuickBooks
>>is well underway.
>
>I can see Quickbooks more likely than Quicken.
>
>>Intuit is giving developers access to
>>code they can reuse.
>
>Really? Under what license?
The free license that lets developers
access various versions of QuickBooks
and QuickBase (and to a lesser extent
QuickBooks Canada) with the same code.
Jim Turner
<mbl...@blocktax.com> wrote:
Mike, How does this standard API and set of Windows based tools, etc..
lead to a port of Quickbooks to a completely different platform. Just
look at how long it took them to come up with a new Mac version. Even
then, it seems the Mac version is substantially different, with no
file compatibility and not the same mix of features.
Here are factors I see hindering a port of a full featured Linux
Quickbooks version.
1. Quickbooks is very dependant on Internet Explorer, ActiveX, and
other Microsoft proprietary technologies. A complete rewrite could fix
that but is unlikely because of
2. There is the new developers interface which, from what I can see,
was never intended to be cross platform. Making the developers API
platform independant will require major work, and possible scrapping
of parts of it. They don't seem to be able to have anything but
minimal compatibility between the Mac and Windows platforms, adding a
wide open environment such as Linux would probably need a completely
different approach than current.
3. Product activation and other DRM related technologies don't really
work under Linux, and Linux users are very vocal in their opposition
to such technologies. The comparitively high cost of QB compared to
what most Linux software costs will be a major factor. Add to that the
normal expectation for Linux software to work with almost any standard
GUI, scripting tools, etc.. and you have a major case for disgruntled
Linux users.
In short, I see Linux and Intuit going in very different directions.
JT
Matthew Miller
>>>Intuit is giving developers access to
>>>code they can reuse.
>>Really? Under what license?
>The free license that lets developers
>access various versions of QuickBooks
>and QuickBase (and to a lesser extent
>QuickBooks Canada) with the same code.
Isn't this just API stuff to drive the existing binary program?
Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A.
>Mike Block - Tax Cut C.P.A. <mbl...@blocktax.com> wrote:
>>>>Intuit is giving developers access to
>>>>code they can reuse.
>>>Really? Under what license?
>>The free license that lets developers
>>access various versions of QuickBooks
>>and QuickBase (and to a lesser extent
>>QuickBooks Canada) with the same code.
>
>Isn't this just API stuff to drive the existing binary program?
Yes, I see from this that my view on this
was simplistic. It will take Intuit
co-operation.
How do Linux installs compare to Mac
installs.
Mike Block, QuickBooks Tax Cut CPA, 954-566-7540
Founding Member: QuickBooks Advisory Council
TurboTax Boycott Ended: http://blocktax.com/turbotax_2002_boycott.htm
Matthew Miller
>How do Linux installs compare to Mac installs.
[sorry for the slow reply]
I'm not sure what you're asking, exactly. The underlying system for Mac OS X
is similar to Linux many fundamental ways, but the GUI layer and high-level
APIs are quite different.