I'm running a PII 350 with it right now w/100FSB (33pci/66agp) and I changed the jumper settings for the FSB to be at 133 and when I turn the machine on, the fans come on, but there's nothing else. The monitor keeps on saying there no sync output and there's no HD activity either. I couldn't even turn the machine off with the button, I had to turn the power off at the powerbar.
Any ideas as to why it's doing that? Thanks in advance.
"RipRock" <ripnospamr...@home.com> wrote: >I'm running a PII 350 with it right now w/100FSB (33pci/66agp) >and I changed the jumper settings for the FSB to be at 133 and >when I turn the machine on, the fans come on, but there's nothing >else. The monitor keeps on saying there no sync output and there's no >HD activity either. I couldn't even turn the machine off with the >button, I had to turn the power off at the powerbar.
>Any ideas as to why it's doing that? Thanks in advance.
Rhino wrote in message <372929cb.15555...@news.digital.net>...
:Yeah, you are overlocking the crap out of the AGP bus, PCI bus, memory :and CPU cache. Try 112 mhz.
One would think that, but on the board itself, the chart indicates that at 133MHz FSB, it'll give me 33.3MHz PCI speed and I'm assuming 66.6MHz AGP from that, which are the normal speed for those slots. It's even their board manual as well right on the board.
Strangely enough, when I did try at 112MHz(37.3MHz PCI), the machine woulnd't even turn on. I found that quite strange since at 133MHz, it would at least power up. What are you thoughts on this? Thanks in advance.
: :>I'm running a PII 350 with it right now w/100FSB (33pci/66agp) :>and I changed the jumper settings for the FSB to be at 133 and :>when I turn the machine on, the fans come on, but there's nothing :>else. The monitor keeps on saying there no sync output and there's no :>HD activity either. I couldn't even turn the machine off with the :>button, I had to turn the power off at the powerbar. :> :>Any ideas as to why it's doing that? Thanks in advance. :> :>RipRock :> :
>There are two types of overclocking scenarios--successful and >unsuccessful. By questioning why things aren't working correctly you >are making the assumption that your attempt should have been >successful. There is no reason to assume this; as overclocking is >always ifey. Your right about the PCI bus but the AGP bus is still >beinn overclocked and so is the system memory and CPU. My particular >system doesn't do well on any of the non-standard bus speeds. My 333 >runs great at 5.0x66, but way, way slower at 75x5.0. It runs great at >100x5.0 but slows down at 103x5.0. One last comment, the main failure >for overclocking Pentium II CPUs is in the L2 Cache. It is designed >to run at 1/2 system clock speed. At 465 mhz you are stressing the L2 >Cache and that is probably where the system is failing. The 350 also >did not have any L2 cache cooling. I have pried one open and modified >this oversight but it definetely will not look the same.
>>Rhino wrote in message <372929cb.15555...@news.digital.net>... >>:Yeah, you are overlocking the crap out of the AGP bus, PCI bus, >>memory >>:and CPU cache. Try 112 mhz.
>>One would think that, but on the board itself, the chart indicates >>that at 133MHz FSB, it'll give me 33.3MHz PCI speed and I'm assuming >>66.6MHz AGP from that, which are the normal speed for those slots. >>It's even their board manual as well right on the board.
>>Strangely enough, when I did try at 112MHz(37.3MHz PCI), the machine >>woulnd't even turn on. I found that quite strange since at 133MHz, it >>would at least power up. What are you thoughts on this? Thanks in >>advance.
>>RipRock
>>: >>: >>: >>:"RipRock" <ripnospamr...@home.com> wrote: >>: >>:>I'm running a PII 350 with it right now w/100FSB (33pci/66agp) >>:>and I changed the jumper settings for the FSB to be at 133 and >>:>when I turn the machine on, the fans come on, but there's nothing >>:>else. The monitor keeps on saying there no sync output and there's >>no >>:>HD activity either. I couldn't even turn the machine off with the >>:>button, I had to turn the power off at the powerbar. >>:> >>:>Any ideas as to why it's doing that? Thanks in advance. >>:> >>:>RipRock >>:> >>:
The asus board will do 1/4 divider when set to 133 for the pci, but this doesn't affect the agp because the bx chipset doesn't have any settings other than 1/1 and 2/3. The slow downs at 83 are usualy harddrives having a problem at 41.5 pci speed. Only the faster drives make it.
On Sat, 01 May 1999 16:38:39 GMT, hgr...@arkansas.net (Hank) wrote: >On Sat, 01 May 1999 16:04:59 GMT, co...@kramer.com (George Costanza) >wrote:
>>There are two types of overclocking scenarios--successful and >>unsuccessful. By questioning why things aren't working correctly you >>are making the assumption that your attempt should have been >>successful. There is no reason to assume this; as overclocking is >>always ifey. Your right about the PCI bus but the AGP bus is still >>beinn overclocked and so is the system memory and CPU. My particular >>system doesn't do well on any of the non-standard bus speeds. My 333 >>runs great at 5.0x66, but way, way slower at 75x5.0. It runs great at >>100x5.0 but slows down at 103x5.0. One last comment, the main failure >>for overclocking Pentium II CPUs is in the L2 Cache. It is designed >>to run at 1/2 system clock speed. At 465 mhz you are stressing the L2 >>Cache and that is probably where the system is failing. The 350 also >>did not have any L2 cache cooling. I have pried one open and modified >>this oversight but it definetely will not look the same.
>>>Rhino wrote in message <372929cb.15555...@news.digital.net>... >>>:Yeah, you are overlocking the crap out of the AGP bus, PCI bus, >>>memory >>>:and CPU cache. Try 112 mhz.
>>>One would think that, but on the board itself, the chart indicates >>>that at 133MHz FSB, it'll give me 33.3MHz PCI speed and I'm assuming >>>66.6MHz AGP from that, which are the normal speed for those slots. >>>It's even their board manual as well right on the board.
>>>Strangely enough, when I did try at 112MHz(37.3MHz PCI), the machine >>>woulnd't even turn on. I found that quite strange since at 133MHz, it >>>would at least power up. What are you thoughts on this? Thanks in >>>advance.
>>>RipRock
>>>: >>>: >>>: >>>:"RipRock" <ripnospamr...@home.com> wrote: >>>: >>>:>I'm running a PII 350 with it right now w/100FSB (33pci/66agp) >>>:>and I changed the jumper settings for the FSB to be at 133 and >>>:>when I turn the machine on, the fans come on, but there's nothing >>>:>else. The monitor keeps on saying there no sync output and there's >>>no >>>:>HD activity either. I couldn't even turn the machine off with the >>>:>button, I had to turn the power off at the powerbar. >>>:> >>>:>Any ideas as to why it's doing that? Thanks in advance. >>>:> >>>:>RipRock >>>:> >>>:
>The asus board will do 1/4 divider when set to 133 for the pci, but >this doesn't affect the agp because the bx chipset doesn't have >any settings other than 1/1 and 2/3. >The slow downs at 83 are usualy harddrives having a problem >at 41.5 pci speed. Only the faster drives make it.
I'm with Hank on that one, i think the quality of the drive does matter. Also at 133 MHz you should have good quality CAS 2 memory, even then its a not a sure thing. My FSB runs good at 112, i haven't tried 133 yet because i have my doubts it'll work.
Brett Bond wrote in message <925696489.815...@news.remarQ.com>...
:I'm with Hank on that one, i think the quality of the drive does matter. :Also at 133 MHz you should have good quality CAS 2 memory, even :then its a :not a sure thing. My FSB runs good at 112, i haven't tried 133 yet :because i :have my doubts it'll work.
Well, you're much wiser than I am :-) I should be happy just being able to run my box @112FSB, but, but...Anyway, my HD is a Maxtor DiamondMax 2160 (88455D8), 5200RPM, ATA-33, avg seek <9.7ms, but only 256K cache, ANSI ATA mode compliant PIO mode4/DMA 2 interface and SMART system compliant.
I did try 133 with the pio/dma at 0/0, but that still didn't help. Is this just not good enough of a HD to be able to run my box at 133? What do you guys think?
RipRock wrote in message <9e9X2.2940$NC4.4...@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com>...
>Brett Bond wrote in message <925696489.815...@news.remarQ.com>... >:I'm with Hank on that one, i think the quality of the drive does >matter. >:Also at 133 MHz you should have good quality CAS 2 memory, even :then >its a >:not a sure thing. My FSB runs good at 112, i haven't tried 133 yet >:because i >:have my doubts it'll work.
>Well, you're much wiser than I am :-) I should be happy just being >able to run my box @112FSB, but, but...Anyway, my HD is a Maxtor >DiamondMax 2160 (88455D8), 5200RPM, ATA-33, avg seek <9.7ms, but only >256K cache, ANSI ATA mode compliant PIO mode4/DMA 2 interface and >SMART system compliant.
>I did try 133 with the pio/dma at 0/0, but that still didn't help. Is >this just not good enough of a HD to be able to run my box at 133? >What do you guys think?
