cooling a dualie
Geo
me CRAZY! The dual Volcano 7s are just too loud and not too efficient. With
the case cover off the CPUs run at around 46C. With the cover on, 56C+. It's
actually louder with the cover on since the RPMs increase as the heat does.
The airflow in my case is as recommended by AMD: in from the bottom, out
from the top.
So my options are:
1. a quieter heatsink/fan
2. water cooling
3. TEC peltier
I'll do water cooling as a last resort. Not crazy about the hassle and
expense. How about TEC? Anyone using TEC? Is it practical? Effective?
Economical?
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Chief
machine so you got to expect server type noise. Ear muffs maybe?
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Eric
Have you looked at Zalman coolers?
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Eric
Matt Schalit
>My Asus A7M 266-D runs great with 2X Athlon XP 2000 but the noise is driving
>me CRAZY! The dual Volcano 7s are just too loud and not too efficient. With
>the case cover off the CPUs run at around 46C. With the cover on, 56C+. It's
>actually louder with the cover on since the RPMs increase as the heat does.
>The airflow in my case is as recommended by AMD: in from the bottom, out
>from the top.
>
>So my options are:
>1. a quieter heatsink/fan
>2. water cooling
>3. TEC peltier
>
>I'll do water cooling as a last resort. Not crazy about the hassle and
>expense. How about TEC? Anyone using TEC? Is it practical? Effective?
>Economical?
a. A nice set of hunter green ear muffs, yes.
b. A louder home stereo.
c. More parties.
d. Run the server in a room w/AC
e. Deal w/seasonal heat rise using seasonal hardware.
f. Water cooler radiators likely to be nifty, loud, and hot.
g. Glory road is to play the game of swap.
Don't buy expensive, buy quality and proven technology.
What that means, and what the game of swap means is that
you'll want to find a couple of local vendors who've been
in business for over 5 years in the same place. That's an
eternity in computer shops. If they are still around, it's
because they use stuff that works. Quality at a fair price.
Obviously if they sell a mass of Asus mainboards but kind of
wrinkle their nose when you mention ABit, you'll know that
they understand quality and stability. Buy one of their fans
for your system. Try out a couple of different vendors ones.
You many find that one is quiet and cools very well, at least
as good as a $70 brand name one.
Also read and read and read about Mineral Spirits, 99% Isopropyl
Alcohol, lens cloth, razor blades, toothpicks, the ramones, and
Arctic Silver. Absolutely essential to your goal this is.
Be aware that your advanced system may need rounded cables to
increase air flow (flop and ATA).
Also think about copper/aluminum combo heatsinks which use
the copper base to provide maximum quick spreading of heat
evenly throughout the base and the AL fins to provide the
quickest shedding of heat ability to the air.
With all that speed, you may be able to get away with
slower, quiter hard drives also, or maybe just IBM ones
which have been quieter for me. ymmv.
Dualies are tricky, because the cpus can be close together.
Case fans that run at 4000+ rpms sux0r because they
are like hair dryers. Lose those quick naw. The ones
that run around 1/2 that, maybe the ADDA ones, are sweet.
If they get dusty, they run loud. Keep at least 6 of
those $5 - $7 ADDA fans around as spares, minimum, cuz
they fit all your cases and most power supplies. Buy
fans like you buy beer. Sooner or later, you will have
a whisper quiet system, and it'll be funny. Of course
no one on earth will get the joke except maybe me and Jerry.
okey naw,
matthew
Christian Merkle
> My Asus A7M 266-D runs great with 2X Athlon XP 2000 but the noise is driving
> me CRAZY!
How get you the XPs to work in MP mode ? I tried the modification from
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/articles.hwz?cid=2&aid=393&page=1 ,
but Bios still posts "CPU0 ist MP incapable". "CPU MP Check" is disabled
(BIOS 1006) :-{
Christian
Richard Ingram
> My Asus A7M 266-D runs great with 2X Athlon XP 2000 but the noise is driving
> me CRAZY! The dual Volcano 7s are just too loud and not too efficient. With
> the case cover off the CPUs run at around 46C. With the cover on, 56C+. It's
> actually louder with the cover on since the RPMs increase as the heat does.
> The airflow in my case is as recommended by AMD: in from the bottom, out
> from the top.
Sounds like silence compared to my old Dualie PPro Tyan board, I have two 240v
mains powered industrial fans in it, one at the bottom and top, the air
movement is amazing - but so is the dust!! What do people recommend for
filters?
Richard.
Matt Schalit
It's the ambient dust in the room air. If there
are carpets on the floor, it's hopeless. A good A/C
system in a room where the window is closed wouldn't
have a dust problem, hopefully.
One trick though, that you can cludge together is to
put one of those quiet hepa filter fans blowing right
at the intake on your case. Then you'll be getting
dustless air. I'm using that trick at one location
in the country near dirt roads, and it cut the dust
down by 75%.
regards,
matthew
Keith Alger
>
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>
> Eric
Sure Zalman's are good, but not as good as the volcanos he's currently
using. If you wanna stick with air cooling I'd suggest you gotta go for
either a swiftech or alpha, with around 50CFM fans - dot go ott on the fans
or the noise will get extreem!
--
Athlon XP 1800+ with Alpha PAL8045 HS & 68CFM Delta Fan
512M Crucial PC2100 ram - clocked as PC2700
MSI KT3 Ultra ARU motherboard
MSI G4Ti4600-vtd (Geforce 4) video card
Intel Pro100+ nic
(2) Western Digital 120G HDD RAID 1 (security) array
RICOH MP9200a DVD/CDRW
SoundBlaster Audigy
CoolerMaster ATCS-201 Aluminium Case
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McRed
setup and extremely reliable. Best of all...... silent. www.koolance.com
It's the simplest water cooling kit to set up out of the box.... everyone
calls it turn key.
Red
Roger
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SMC
recipe is good airflow through the case with large, low speed fans. My CPU
temperatures go up only 2 degrees C with the lid closed (to Tmb + 14-19
degrees depending on load), a pretty good sign.
I am using a Lian-Li PC-68 aluminum case which has two adjustable 80mm fans
blowing in up front, with a dust filter, running at the lowest setting
(around 7V, barely audible). Exhaust fan is a temperature controlled 80mm,
with another variable speed 92mm in the Enermax PS sucking in the hot air
from the CPU area and exhausting it out back with an 80mm.
As for CPU coolers, yours are much better than my no-names, which however
have 2,000rpm 80mm fans. I got MP1600+ mainly because they ran cooler than
higher clocked versions. Yes, my 1600's are running as hot as your 2000's,
but my system is quieter than many single CPU systems. Quality heatsinks
would probably keep your 2000's within acceptable range, even with slower
fans.
The rpm range on your Volcano 7's sounds painfully loud. I would recommend
finding some good, large heatsink which can accept standard 80mm fans,
unlike the Volcano 7. As my 80mm fans are nearly touching each other, I
doubt 92mm would fit, unless mounted off-center.
Alternatively, get some Alphas, with fans mounted 'sucking' as opposed to
blowing, and cobble together couple of ducts leading to a rear opening so
the heat is directly evacuated from the case.
Bruce Burden
: My Asus A7M 266-D runs great with 2X Athlon XP 2000 but the noise is driving
: me CRAZY!
:
What kind of case to you have? Perhaps a bigger case,
for better airflow, is the answer?
Bruce
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room temps at 72f and case temps at 30c
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Geo
sure it's not shorting out nearby pins. Make sure you use enough paint.
Update your BIOS.
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They run happily at 13 - 15 degrees Celius all the time, and 19 - 21 degrees at
933MHz and 26 - 30 degrees at 1050MHz! :o)
I put the side covers on and the temps rise 2 - 3 degrees across the board.
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Jeff's Computers.
Cairns, QLD, Australia.
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the front, then maybe 1 or two fans on the rear, as well as the fans from
the PSU sucking out, as well as a blowhole fan. The biggest thing that seems
to makes the temps rise, is components such as cables in the way of airflow.
Make sure that the air has a clear path from the intake, to the CPU's, and
that the rear fans are not to low in the case, so that they are not take out
the fresh air before it has a chance to pass over the CPU heatsinks/fans. My
temps actually rise if i take the cover off of my case, basically have set
up a vacuum within the case. But I have great temps, 38c full load on CPU 0
and CPU 1, with the same MB and AGP Temps.
Regards,
Dan D.
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great.
Regards,
Dan D.
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Christian Merkle
> which bios are you using??
1006
Christian Merkle
> Check it closely with a magnifier. What kind of paint are you using? Make
> sure it's not shorting out nearby pins. Make sure you use enough paint.
> Update your BIOS.
Bios 1006
I used conductive silver-paint first, no success. Then i tried to cut of
the lacquer layer over the bridge and used conductive silver-paint
again. Which Bios post i would get with a working modification ?
Thx for help,
Christian
Marc Ward
>I use Toilet paper, or dryer sheets for intake filters on my case, work
>great.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dan D.
Might want to try a coffee filter. No lint. Brown or white works
equally well.
Marc Ward
Milwaukee, WI
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case, with the 2 power supply fans and 1 92mm fan above the power supply
blowing out works best for me
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