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Louise  
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 More options Feb 5 2004, 9:50 pm
Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.cdr
From: Louise <notrea...@seesignature.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:29:56 -0500
Local: Thurs, Feb 5 2004 9:29 pm
Subject: What exactly is ISO?
I'm burning discs for archiving - both CDRs and DVD+Rs.

When I've had a lot of data that I believe "completes" the
disc, I burn it as disc at once.  If I am adding a lot of
files, I tend to use Instant Disc (Pinnacle's version of
Direct CD)and finalize it as a udf disc.

I know that Direct CD and its cousins from other burning
software requires that the computer have a UDF reader, but
I've never thought that would be a drawback.

It now occurs to me that maybe, someday in the future, when
I go to read one of these archive discs, UDF wont exist or
it wont be on the computer I'm using.

What is ISO and would that be a preferable method to use so
that data can be read from the disc on any CD or DVD drive?

TIA

Louise


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Mike Richter  
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 More options Feb 6 2004, 12:09 am
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From: Mike Richter <mrich...@cpl.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:09:37 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 6 2004 12:09 am
Subject: Re: What exactly is ISO?
Louise wrote:

 > I'm burning discs for archiving - both CDRs and DVD+Rs.
 >
 > When I've had a lot of data that I believe "completes" the disc, I
 > burn it as disc at once.  If I am adding a lot of files, I tend to
 > use Instant Disc (Pinnacle's version of Direct CD)and finalize it as
 > a udf disc.
 >
 > I know that Direct CD and its cousins from other burning software
 > requires that the computer have a UDF reader, but I've never thought
 > that would be a drawback.
 >
 > It now occurs to me that maybe, someday in the future, when I go to
 > read one of these archive discs, UDF wont exist or it wont be on the
 > computer I'm using.
 >
 > What is ISO and would that be a preferable method to use so that data
 > can be read from the disc on any CD or DVD drive?

ISO stands for International Standards Organization. ISO 9660 is the
standard covering optical media of interest here. "ISO" is used as a
shortcut for various standards covered there from filesystems through
image properties. For example, an ISO extension to a filename designates
an image of a data disc in the format specified in the standard.

UDF - Universal Data Format - is actually a family of formats specified
in ISO 9660. In addition to formats for the filesystem (allowed
characters, name lengths, subdirectory depth, etc.), ISO 9660 specifies
formats for a data disc. The one most are familiar with is Level 2,
which is used for mastered discs. A variant, Level 3, is used on closed
variable-length packet sessions. The drawback to Level 3 is that it is
not readable in older OSs, such as DOS, Windows 3, or those on early
Macs. It can be read in modern OSs without assistance.

A variable-length packet session can also be closed to UDF 1.5, which is
  readable only when UDF read capability is installed.

There is much more to this, so see one of the usual references if you
want to get the rest: the CD-R FAQ or the primer at my WWW site.

As for your question: I don't know Pinnacle's program, but if you want
maximum readability, you want to write ISO 9660 Level 2 - master the
disc. The next best is Level 3; the least portable is UDF 1.5.

Mike
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smh  
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 More options Feb 6 2004, 1:52 am
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From: smh <smh...@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:55:55 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 6 2004 1:55 am
Subject: Re: What exactly is ISO?
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When you burn with InstantCD/DVD, you are burning in ISO 9660 file
system.  When you burn with InstantDisc, you are burning in UDF 1.50
file system.  For compatibility or portability, use ISO 9660 file
system.

ISO 9660
CD-ROM CD & CD-R Formats
http://www.toggle.org/html/0005art9.htm

Introductiontoiso9660.pdf
http://www.mp3ar.com/Literature/iso9660.pdf

What is the meaning of ISO 9660, Joliet, and other options in my
pre-mastering software?
http://www.mscience.com/faq27.html


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NobodyMan  
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 More options Feb 6 2004, 7:20 pm
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From: NobodyMan <n...@none.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 19:20:38 -0500
Local: Fri, Feb 6 2004 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: What exactly is ISO?
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:09:37 -0800, Mike Richter <mrich...@cpl.net>
wrote:

Well, actually ISO doesn't stand for anything...certainly not
International Standards Organization.  The group that set the formats
you specify is actually the International Organization for
Standardization.  It's just that ISO sounds cooler than IOFS.

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Rick Pali  
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 More options Feb 6 2004, 7:55 pm
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From: "Rick Pali" <rp...@alienshore.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 00:55:25 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 6 2004 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: What exactly is ISO?
"NobodyMan" <n...@none.net> wrote

> >ISO stands for International Standards Organization.

> Well, actually ISO doesn't stand for anything...certainly not
> International Standards Organization.

I would've guessed it was from the French name for the group, much like the
S.I. system is named, but this shows how poor my French is. :-)

According to iso.ch, the abbreviation came about this way: "Because
'International Organization for Standardization' would have different
abbreviations in different languages ("IOS" in English, "OIN" in French for
Organisation internationale de normalisation), it was decided at the outset
to use a word derived from the Greek isos, meaning "equal". Therefore,
whatever the country, whatever the language, the short form of the
organization's name is always ISO."

So it *does* stand for something, but it's not an acronym. Interesting.

Rick.
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