I have decided that I can no longer live without USB and so have tried installing windows 2000 on an old home computer that was happy on NT 4.0. Originally it had windows 98SE but was so unstable, that I gave up on it. The problem is that it is now very unstable. There is also an interesting side effect whereby letters in dialogue boxes are not always in line so you get the following effect:
i n Th s Comp ter is u h ppy u a
ie. the letters occasionally are above and below the line.
The machine is old but I dont know which part of it is causing the problem. I imagine that it might be the video card but I would have thought that a cheap PCI video card could solve this. Spec is as follows:
P200MMX Award bios 1995 S3 Virge video card 64mb ram PCI network card, USB card ISA SB16 and modem (will probably try removing these as I dont need them!)
Anyone have any similar experiences or have machines of a comparible spec that run Win2K ok?
> P200MMX > Award bios 1995 > S3 Virge video card > 64mb ram > PCI network card, USB card > ISA SB16 and modem (will probably try removing these as I dont need > them!)
> Anyone have any similar experiences or have machines of a comparible > spec that run Win2K ok?
Sorry, but this machine simply can't cut it. At least 128 MB (better yet 256) RAM and 300-400 MHz CPU, or there's no fun with Windows 2000. Your computer is good enough for either NT4 or Windows 95/98, but nothing higher.
Apart from the instablility, it was fine - easily responsive enough. It isnt used for anything very taxing - just some web browsing and document editing. Sadly, I need to use it with a wireless network and that destabalises windows 9x and is a USB adapter so cant be used with NT :(
"Dirk Dreidoppel" <dirk.dreidop...@deadspam.com> wrote: >> P200MMX >> Award bios 1995 >> S3 Virge video card >> 64mb ram >> PCI network card, USB card >> ISA SB16 and modem (will probably try removing these as I dont need >> them!)
>> Anyone have any similar experiences or have machines of a comparible >> spec that run Win2K ok?
>Sorry, but this machine simply can't cut it. At least 128 MB (better yet >256) RAM and 300-400 MHz CPU, or there's no fun with Windows 2000. Your >computer is good enough for either NT4 or Windows 95/98, but nothing higher.
My son has run Win2K in 64MB (can't imagine that was much fun, but it was rock-stable) and my home network's file and printer server is a Pentium 200MMX w/128MB and it runs Win2K fine, fwiw.
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squelc...@hotmail.com wrote: >Think I might try removing all non-essential cards especially the ISA >ones and see if that helps!
>Is it likely that the S3 virge is likely to be responsible for the >video problem or is that a red herring?
I'd get rid of the sound card and modem first -- my 200MMX Win2K box just has PCI video (an ancient Number Nine Imagine 128), ethernet, and SCSI cards. That said, if you've got another video card around there's no reason not to trying swapping out that S3.
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The Box does meet the minimum requirements for an install of win 2k, just. You do not however say which chipset you have. The first thing you need to do is check that ALL of your hardware is on the Hardware compatibility list which you can find here https://winqual.microsoft.com/download/default.asp if there is anything that is not on this list, then you are heading for problems.
>>Think I might try removing all non-essential cards especially the ISA >>ones and see if that helps!
>>Is it likely that the S3 virge is likely to be responsible for the >>video problem or is that a red herring?
> I'd get rid of the sound > card and modem first -- my > 200MMX Win2K box just has > PCI video (an ancient > Number Nine Imagine 128), > ethernet, and SCSI cards. > That said, if you've got > another video card around > there's no reason not to > trying swapping out that > S3.
My Pentium 200MMX's SCSI card isn't on the list, which is only of stuff M$ will vouch for as compatible. As a matter of fact, the semi-ancient HP Vectra XW I'm on right now also has an unlisted SCSI card. Both machines are dead-stable using the Win2K drivers from the SCSI card vendors.
I'm not saying the list is useless, I'm just saying it's not an absolute disqualifier as long as driver support from the product vendor is available.
"bob Jeffray" <b...@jeffray.plus.com> wrote: >The Box does meet the minimum requirements for an install of win 2k, just. >You do not however say which chipset you have. >The first thing you need to do is check that ALL of your hardware is on the >Hardware compatibility list which you can find here >https://winqual.microsoft.com/download/default.asp >if there is anything that is not on this list, then you are heading for >problems.
>>>Think I might try removing all non-essential cards especially the ISA >>>ones and see if that helps!
>>>Is it likely that the S3 virge is likely to be responsible for the >>>video problem or is that a red herring?
>> I'd get rid of the sound >> card and modem first -- my >> 200MMX Win2K box just has >> PCI video (an ancient >> Number Nine Imagine 128), >> ethernet, and SCSI cards. >> That said, if you've got >> another video card around >> there's no reason not to >> trying swapping out that >> S3.
Oh I fully agree, the list is not a disqualifier, there is not an organisation in the world that has the resources to make such a definitive list, It would be a bit like finding the exact value of Pi and if your kit works, so much the better. However, if you are having problems, it is a very valid reference source ie if the kit you are having problems with is not on the list I would suggest looking to replace it.
BTW I have an old cyrix P166 running win2K on a PC Chips MOBO, which still gets an occasional airing, but it does struggle a bit.
> My Pentium 200MMX's SCSI > card isn't on the list, > which is only of stuff > M$ will vouch for as > compatible. As a matter > of fact, the semi-ancient > HP Vectra XW I'm on right > now also has an unlisted > SCSI card. Both machines > are dead-stable using the > Win2K drivers from the > SCSI card vendors.
> I'm not saying the list > is useless, I'm just > saying it's not an > absolute disqualifier as > long as driver support > from the product vendor > is available.
>>The Box does meet the minimum requirements for an install of win 2k, just. >>You do not however say which chipset you have. >>The first thing you need to do is check that ALL of your hardware is on >>the >>Hardware compatibility list which you can find here >>https://winqual.microsoft.com/download/default.asp >>if there is anything that is not on this list, then you are heading for >>problems.
>>>>Think I might try removing all non-essential cards especially the ISA >>>>ones and see if that helps!
>>>>Is it likely that the S3 virge is likely to be responsible for the >>>>video problem or is that a red herring?
>>> I'd get rid of the sound >>> card and modem first -- my >>> 200MMX Win2K box just has >>> PCI video (an ancient >>> Number Nine Imagine 128), >>> ethernet, and SCSI cards. >>> That said, if you've got >>> another video card around >>> there's no reason not to >>> trying swapping out that >>> S3.
