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Chet

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Nov 20, 2007, 7:53:09 PM11/20/07
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I just got a new hp Pavilion A6200N computer, I like the computer, but I
was wondering If I can help out the graphics end a bit by adding a video
card. looking for some suggestions, something reasonable, I am not into
gaming at all. just looking to perk up the graphics end.


thanks
Chet

Paul

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Nov 20, 2007, 10:23:30 PM11/20/07
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You appear to have a PCI Express x16 slot in there.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?docname=c01151591&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

Video card fits in the black slot.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01077676&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3548643&lang=en

There are plenty of cards with that interface on them. Hundreds of
entries listed on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609641&Configurator=&Subcategory=48

On the HP partsurfer site, this is what is listed for your power supply.

Power Supply 5188-2622 250-watt (max) power supply (Zinfandel),
Bestec ATX-250-12V - 100-120VAC and 200-240VAC input (switch selectable), 50/60Hz

Usually, there will be a label on the side of the supply, with
ratings information. I cannot find a spec, but it could be
similar looking to this.

DC Input: +5v/25A, +12v/14A, +3.3v/18A, -12v/0.8A, +5vsb/2A

The 5000+ processor is available in 65W and 89W versions. I'll assume 65W.
65W/12V * (1/0.90) = 6.02 amps of 12V power.

CD/DVD drives draw current when media is present. There are
two on your machine. The hard drive draws current all the
time. Cooling fans, if present draw a bit of current as well.
My estimate: 1.5 + 1.5 + 0.6 + 0.5 = 4.1 amps
(Pessimistic, as you don't normally have two CDs loaded.
CD motor doesn't draw current, when media is not loaded.)

That is 10.1 amps of 14 amps available. That leaves 4 amps
or 48 watts of remaining 12V power. Considering the CD
thing, probably a bit more is available.

Basically, I think that any PCI Express video card, that
does not have an auxiliary power connector on the end of the
card, is a candidate for you. If the card has a power
connector on the end of the card, then that means the power
is probably over the 4 amp number from the 12V rail.

In terms of cards:

1) Some of the low end cards are "turbocache" or "hypermemory".
These cards would have a smaller amount of memory on the
video card, and still use some system memory. I'm not
really a big fan of that technique, and because the
adverts for the cards don't say which ones have it, it
is hard to pick out the "bad apples". Suspect the $50 cards
of using this technique.

2) Older cards support DX9. Newer cards are DX10. Vista Aero
can use DX9 (as long as a certain level of shader is
available, and 128MB of onboard RAM). The DX10 cards would
have the advantage that if you were to play a game that
used DX10, you'd have compatible hardware. But the
thing is, any card that doesn't have an auxiliary power
connector on the end, is probably not good enough for
DX10 gaming. So I don't know what to tell you there.

Anyway, I expect price will be your guide, so have fun
picking something out. You can get some idea of their
performance level, by looking at the charts here:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html

Paul

Paul

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Nov 21, 2007, 12:06:25 AM11/21/07
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Paul wrote:
> Chet wrote:
>> I just got a new hp Pavilion A6200N computer, I like the computer, but
>> I was wondering If I can help out the graphics end a bit by adding a
>> video card. looking for some suggestions, something reasonable, I am
>> not into gaming at all. just looking to perk up the graphics end.
>>
>> thanks
>> Chet

Some pointers to which cards are Turbocache or Hypermemory
(using system memory as well as the video card onboard memory):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocache

Paul

kony

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Nov 21, 2007, 11:56:57 AM11/21/07
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:53:09 GMT, Chet <ch...@epix.net>
wrote:


Without gaming, what is it you hope to improve by adding a
video card?

Generally onboard video is wholly sufficient for non-gaming
uses, except perhaps that you "might" not have a DVI port
which means driving an LCD at higher resolutions (generally
around 1440x or 1280x the difference just starts to become
visible) would start to become blurrier, and onboard video
lacks some of the decoding capabilities that are useful for
offloading HD video decoding from the CPU.

Beyond these differences onboard video just uses a little
memory bandwidth but does not slow the system down much at
all, it would seem a more important change might be that if
you are running Vista that you use WinXP instead, and if
there is a lot of OEM bloatware installed to uninstall that,
particularly apps from the likes of Symantec or McAfee.

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