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TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:18:57 AM12/16/09
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When I boot my computer with the Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade DVD in the
drive the boot gets to "CD ROM Boot Priority....Boot Ready_" but does not
proceed to "Press any key to boot from CD". I can hear the drive spinning.
I've pressed keys.
The boot order is correct: CD Drive first.
The DVD boots on 2 other computers (you get to the "Press any key to boot
from CD" message) - the DVD is good.
The other computers have a single legacy hard drive and legacy DVD writers.

This system:
Asus P6T motherboard with i7-920 CPU- 6GB RAM
Two WD SATA Black hard disks - 5 + 3 partitions all NTFS
Samsung SH-S223F 22x SATA Burner - DVD +R -R *RW -RW -RAM -ROM
Floppy Drive
Rig has been running XP without a hitch for 9 months

Any ideas why it won't boot from DVD?

TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:26:39 AM12/16/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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The computer boots from CD's fine: Acronis, Ubuntu, XP. I don't have other
DVD-Bootable to test.


Paul

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Dec 16, 2009, 12:05:58 PM12/16/09
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OK, got a suggestion here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=27-151-171&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=100&SelectedRating=-1&PurchaseMark=&Page=2

Mike 2/27/2009 6:27:26 PM

Cons: This DVD player stopped working after one month of use. I started
doing some investigating and there is a known problem where the
drive will stop working with DVDs and only work with CDs. Samsung
is aware of this problem and said a firmware upgrade would fix it.
Unfortunately this is not the case (at least it didn't help me).
I will not be buying a samsung DVD player again. Don't be fooled.

Do other kinds of operations work OK with that drive. Can you
burn a DVD on it ? If you use one of those tools that scans
for errors (PI/PO) on a recently burned DVD, does that work
OK ? If you have a burner program, can you get the burner program
to make an ISO out of the Win7 DVD (copy to a file) ?

*******

I took a quick look at the Asus forum, and don't see a trend there to suggest
the motherboard is the problem. I didn't go through all the threads.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=P6T&SLanguage=en-us

HTH,
Paul

TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 2:24:15 PM12/16/09
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"Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in message
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Hey Paul - Thanks for the info. So I should suspect a faulty DVD drive and
go from there?
I did some tests and the drive will recognize a blank DVD-R and Nero CD-DVD
Tool will run it's tests. And A DVD movie will play from the desktop.
Is there anything different about reading DVD's when booting?
I will try burning a DVD later to see if that works.

Anyone out there install W7 on a P6T with a SATA DVD drive?

Jan Alter

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Dec 16, 2009, 2:36:43 PM12/16/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message

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Interesting enough from the information Paul brought out about Samsung
suggesting a firmware upgrade I would check into that as well for your
drive.
I'd purchased an Asus laptop this summer with promise of a free Windows 7
upgrade. Receiving the upgrade disk a couple of weeks ago an insert with the
disk said to upgrade the firmware of the Matshita DVD-RAM drive on the
laptop before attempting the upgrade. I could not locate any firmware
update, but the installation went OK except for it being 4 and a half hours
long. Perhaps on certain drives that firmware flash is necessary.

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Paul

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Dec 16, 2009, 2:43:52 PM12/16/09
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So is the Windows 7 disc readable from WinXP ? Can you explore it ?
I would think, if you can read the media while in WinXP, maybe it
isn't a laser problem.

For that matter, you did say "Upgrade DVD". Doesn't that mean
you run it while booted in the qualifying OS ? Like, run
a setup.exe from the media. The media probably isn't bootable!
(No boot sector or whatever is used for booting.)

It may not be like previous upgrades, where you could boot
the media and have it check for a qualifying OS. Maybe this
one requires you to start the install while you're booted from
WinXP. I hope it doesn't trash WinXP as part of the install...

Paul

TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 2:54:29 PM12/16/09
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"Jan Alter" <bea...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I will certainly look into that. Thanks.


TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 3:08:36 PM12/16/09
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"Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in message
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Thing is, it does boot from CD on the other computers, that is, I get the
"press any key" bit. To upgrade from XP *requires* a clean install (format,
wipe, etc. XP off the disk). Only Vista can be upgraded in place. Not that I
would ever do that.
When I load the CD from the desktop I get this ominous message: "This
installation disk isn't compatible with your version of Windows. To Upgrade,
you need the correct installation disk. For more information, check your
computer's system information. To install a new copy of Windows, restart
(boot) your computer using the installation disk, and then select Custom
(Advanced)."
Everything I've read told me that you must install from the installation CD
at bootup. I ran the MS Upgrade Advisor and, of course, there were no major
issues with my machine.
I can read the files on the DVD from Windows XP desktop Explorer. The root
of the DVD has autorun.inf , bootmgr , bootmgr.efi , and setup.exe.
Perhaps I need to run setup.exe from a dos prompt?


Paul

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Dec 16, 2009, 3:44:43 PM12/16/09
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TVeblen wrote:

>
> Thing is, it does boot from CD on the other computers, that is, I get the
> "press any key" bit. To upgrade from XP *requires* a clean install (format,
> wipe, etc. XP off the disk). Only Vista can be upgraded in place. Not that I
> would ever do that.
> When I load the CD from the desktop I get this ominous message: "This
> installation disk isn't compatible with your version of Windows. To Upgrade,
> you need the correct installation disk. For more information, check your
> computer's system information. To install a new copy of Windows, restart
> (boot) your computer using the installation disk, and then select Custom
> (Advanced)."
> Everything I've read told me that you must install from the installation CD
> at bootup. I ran the MS Upgrade Advisor and, of course, there were no major
> issues with my machine.
> I can read the files on the DVD from Windows XP desktop Explorer. The root
> of the DVD has autorun.inf , bootmgr , bootmgr.efi , and setup.exe.
> Perhaps I need to run setup.exe from a dos prompt?
>

Well, I'm running out of ideas. There are some options here for installation,
and it seems the disc is bootable according to this.

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Paul

fwibbler

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Dec 16, 2009, 3:48:20 PM12/16/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote:

> DVD-Bootable to test.
>
Just a thought.
My motherboard is an Abit IP35 board so a bit older than yours but:
In my BIOS options under 'First boot device' it has various options
including:
SATA CDROM
P2-PIONEER DVD-
P3-PIONEER BD-R

Now, it's been a while but I seem to recall that the SATA CDROM option
didn't work for me.
So, if you have something similar in your BIOS then try selecting the option
that most closely matches your drive and try again.

Hope that helps.

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peter

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Dec 16, 2009, 3:52:10 PM12/16/09
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Could you tell us exactly what you bought in regards to W7 upgrade???
Which version?? 32bit?? 64 bit??
Or did you buy that student upgrade edition that everyone has had problems
with??
Are you running more than one OS on your system??

peter

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TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:53:34 PM12/16/09
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>SNIP<
"peter" <pe...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> Could you tell us exactly what you bought in regards to W7 upgrade???
> Which version?? 32bit?? 64 bit??
> Or did you buy that student upgrade edition that everyone has had problems
> with??
> Are you running more than one OS on your system??
>

I have the Windows 7 Home Premium Family Pack.
I have tried both 32 bit and 64 bit disks (on all 3 computers). Both disks
would boot if I pressed any key on the two P4 computers with PATA drives.
Neither disk will boot on this i7 P6T machine.
There is only one OS on all 3 machines. Win XP-SP3 on all 3.


TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 5:12:34 PM12/16/09
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"fwibbler" <thed...@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
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Thanks for the thought Graham. I have looked at every setting for that
drive, in BIOS and in XP that exists to see if something could be changed -
no joy. One thing I did notice in BIOS was that under Main > AHCI
Configuration > SATA Port 4 the drive was
listed as Atapi CD-ROM. Seems normal to me. There are no useful changes to
be made there.

TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:20:30 PM12/16/09
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"Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in message
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Hey Paul- Is it possible that because I have a SATA DVD drive in AHCI mode
that it could be confusing the installation disk? Do you think if I changed
the BIOS settings for the SATA controllers to legacy IDE mode it might get
the install disk to boot like it does on the P4's with PATA drives?


TVeblen

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:40:30 PM12/16/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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The firmware on the drive is newer than the firmware on Samsung's website.
sheesh.
they say sb00 for model bebe. i've got sb03.


Jan Alter

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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message

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Consider the thought of exchanging drives for one you have in another
computer. If it worked you're in business, if it doesn't then you know it's
not the drive, but perhaps the mb bios setting, or the windows upgrade
version.
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TVeblen

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:32:03 AM12/17/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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This morning I tried the 32 bit disk again and this time it loaded, both on
the desktop and when booting. It didn't do it yesterday.
But the 64 bit disk will still not load either way. I want to install the 64
bit system. My rig is fully capable.
Any ideas why the 64 bit disk wont load in 32 bit XP or at startup?
Do I need to install the 32 bit system and then immediately "upgrade" to the
64 bit?


TVeblen

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:04:53 AM12/17/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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I just finished reading that any 32 bit OS (XP-Vista-7) can not run 64 bit
files and that to upgrade from Windows 7 32 bit to W7 64 bit requires a
clean install also. So I need to run the 64 bit disk at boot in order to get
to the goal.
Any ideas why my BIOS won't read/boot a 64 bit disk?
AMI BIOS rev 0801 for Asus P6T


TVeblen

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Dec 17, 2009, 1:06:09 PM12/17/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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I found a solution to my immediate problem: installing W7 64 bit. I will be
using an USB Thumbdrive "Disk". Just tested it and I'm good to go.
According to the forum people it should also install much faster than DVD
too.
If interested, see here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2432-usb-windows-7-installation-key-drive-create.html?filter[2]=General%20Tips
and here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/34853-common-installation-problems.html
I think my SATA DVD drive is garbage when it comes to UDF formatted disks.
I'll deal with that later.


TVeblen

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Dec 17, 2009, 1:49:04 PM12/17/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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This is just not meant to happen. I'm now gettin a 0x80070570 Error and
install can't read the \sources\install.wim file.
Disgusted.


TVeblen

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:57:46 PM12/17/09
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"TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net> wrote in message
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I stuck the 32 bit disk in again this afternoon to see if I got the same
error as with the USB stick and the damn thing wouldn't boot - again - like
it did this morning. But before it could boot into windows I did a hard
reboot (reset) and then it worked.
So then I tried the same trick with the 64 bit disk: boot once, it sits
there blinking at "Boot Ready", hit the reset and reboot, and bang- up comes
the "Press any key" and I'm in.
WTF


William

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:59:32 AM12/18/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:57:46 -0500, "TVeblen" <killth...@hal.net>
wrote:

>
>I stuck the 32 bit disk in again this afternoon to see if I got the same
>error as with the USB stick and the damn thing wouldn't boot - again - like
>it did this morning. But before it could boot into windows I did a hard
>reboot (reset) and then it worked.
>So then I tried the same trick with the 64 bit disk: boot once, it sits
>there blinking at "Boot Ready", hit the reset and reboot, and bang- up comes
>the "Press any key" and I'm in.
>WTF
>

Absolutely weird!!! it's a good story to tell around.

So practically it was fault of your machine, or do you think it's a
kind of common problem of W7 installation software?

There are many complaining about W7 bugs but there are many also very
satisfied by the new OS.

old machines or the software? this is the dilemma.

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TVeblen

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:24:31 AM12/18/09
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"William" <ThisIs...@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
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yeah, it's always amazing that the best repair technique is often the good
hard kick.
However, deep in the recesses of my mind I recall being aware of the need
for "cold boot" vs "warm boot" for various legacy computer needs. In a warm
boot some residual instructions could be left in memory or some such thing.
My best guess is that the system is too fast. Blowing past the boot loader
before it can get it's pants on.
But I'm all installed and being aggravated by printer drivers now. No new
hardware issues to confuse you folks with today!
Cheers


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