OpenSUSE with KDE is working out for me.

[John Corliss]

As I mentioned in another post, I've switched from Mageia to OpenSUSE
(which I mistakenly referred to as simply "SUSE", the payware version)
with KDE and have been messing around with it. It's taking some
figgerin', but basically as people have said before, "It just works."
Configuration is not that difficult.

All hardware I throw at it is recognized and works. I love the way that
you can remove software and it's *completely* gone. Also the way you can
install software easily from the repository.

Only problem I've had so far is related to my computer being old. That
caused a problem running OpenGL with my graphics card, so the special
desktop effects have been disabled. Not an issue really though.

Pooh mentioned that this is his favorite version of Linux. Not sure if
he was referring to OpenSUSE or SUSE though.

As for the updating problem I had at first (that initial mega-update
that took around two hours), well, that hasn't occurred again. The
system has done some updating but now it goes real quickly.

Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
though.

--
John Corliss BS206. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share,
spy, time-limited, trial or web wares, OR warez for me, please: just
freeware- which I define as legally obtainable, local install computer
programs that can be used indefinitely at no cost, monetary or otherwise.

[p-0'0-h the cat]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:08:13 -0800, John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>As I mentioned in another post, I've switched from Mageia to OpenSUSE
>(which I mistakenly referred to as simply "SUSE", the payware version)
>with KDE and have been messing around with it. It's taking some
>figgerin', but basically as people have said before, "It just works."
>Configuration is not that difficult.
>
>All hardware I throw at it is recognized and works. I love the way that
>you can remove software and it's *completely* gone. Also the way you can
>install software easily from the repository.
>
>Only problem I've had so far is related to my computer being old. That
>caused a problem running OpenGL with my graphics card, so the special
>desktop effects have been disabled. Not an issue really though.

It doesn't work on my fairly modern server either Johnny. Servers tend
to have onboard graphics that suck. Sucks under Windows as well.

>Pooh mentioned that this is his favorite version of Linux. Not sure if
>he was referring to OpenSUSE or SUSE though.

It was called SuSE when I started using it 1998.

FYI it has been called S.u.S.E Linux, SuSE Linux, SUSE Linux, openSUSE

I don't follow the politics.

>As for the updating problem I had at first (that initial mega-update
>that took around two hours), well, that hasn't occurred again. The
>system has done some updating but now it goes real quickly.
>
>Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
>though.

openSUSE, so good even Corliss can use it...

Too difficult for Bears though.

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Taking a break from John Corliss

[Dances with Socks]

On 11/16/2012 04:08 PM, John Corliss wrote:
> As I mentioned in another post, I've switched from Mageia to OpenSUSE
> (which I mistakenly referred to as simply "SUSE", the payware version)
> with KDE and have been messing around with it. It's taking some
> figgerin', but basically as people have said before, "It just works."
> Configuration is not that difficult.
>
> All hardware I throw at it is recognized and works. I love the way that
> you can remove software and it's *completely* gone. Also the way you can
> install software easily from the repository.
>
> Only problem I've had so far is related to my computer being old. That
> caused a problem running OpenGL with my graphics card, so the special
> desktop effects have been disabled. Not an issue really though.
>
> Pooh mentioned that this is his favorite version of Linux. Not sure if
> he was referring to OpenSUSE or SUSE though.
>
> As for the updating problem I had at first (that initial mega-update
> that took around two hours), well, that hasn't occurred again. The
> system has done some updating but now it goes real quickly.
>
> Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
> though.
>

what graphic card are you using?
have you tried posting your issue in the openSUSE forums?
--
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate,
because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he
can understand. -Bertrand Russell
Registered Linux User #393236

[Jon Danniken]

On 11/16/2012 01:08 PM, John Corliss wrote:
> As I mentioned in another post, I've switched from Mageia to OpenSUSE
> (which I mistakenly referred to as simply "SUSE", the payware version)
> with KDE and have been messing around with it. It's taking some
> figgerin', but basically as people have said before, "It just works."
> Configuration is not that difficult.
>
> All hardware I throw at it is recognized and works. I love the way that
> you can remove software and it's *completely* gone. Also the way you can
> install software easily from the repository.
>
> Only problem I've had so far is related to my computer being old. That
> caused a problem running OpenGL with my graphics card, so the special
> desktop effects have been disabled. Not an issue really though.
>
> Pooh mentioned that this is his favorite version of Linux. Not sure if
> he was referring to OpenSUSE or SUSE though.
>
> As for the updating problem I had at first (that initial mega-update
> that took around two hours), well, that hasn't occurred again. The
> system has done some updating but now it goes real quickly.
>
> Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
> though.

Glad to hear you made the migration and found a suitable ride.

I still need to install OpenSUSE on this box to play around with, but
I've gotten lazy with Fedora.

Jon

[Mark Warner]

John Corliss wrote:
> As I mentioned in another post, I've switched from Mageia to OpenSUSE
> (which I mistakenly referred to as simply "SUSE", the payware version)
> with KDE and have been messing around with it. It's taking some
> figgerin', but basically as people have said before, "It just works."
> Configuration is not that difficult.

Good job. All it takes is a change of outlook and suspension of
preconceptions.

> All hardware I throw at it is recognized and works. I love the way that
> you can remove software and it's *completely* gone. Also the way you can
> install software easily from the repository.

Click bang done.

> Only problem I've had so far is related to my computer being old. That
> caused a problem running OpenGL with my graphics card, so the special
> desktop effects have been disabled. Not an issue really though.

Yeah, those old cards just don't have the ooomph. Then again, you
couldn't run Aero with them, either.

> Pooh mentioned that this is his favorite version of Linux. Not sure if
> he was referring to OpenSUSE or SUSE though.

Doesn't really matter. They're essentially the same. The payware comes
with a few extras (IIUC) and premium support.

> As for the updating problem I had at first (that initial mega-update
> that took around two hours), well, that hasn't occurred again. The
> system has done some updating but now it goes real quickly.

One click updating for the OS *and* all the applications. That's the
killer app for desktop Linux, IMO.

> Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
> though.

Keep at it John. It took you a while to get your chops with Windows, so
it'll take some time with Lin, too. But it's worth it. I can't imagine
using anything else.

--
Mark Warner
MEPIS Linux
Registered Linux User #415318
...lose .inhibitions when replying

[John Corliss]

Dances with Socks wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> As I mentioned in another post, I've switched from Mageia to OpenSUSE
>> (which I mistakenly referred to as simply "SUSE", the payware version)
>> with KDE and have been messing around with it. It's taking some
>> figgerin', but basically as people have said before, "It just works."
>> Configuration is not that difficult.
>>
>> All hardware I throw at it is recognized and works. I love the way that
>> you can remove software and it's *completely* gone. Also the way you can
>> install software easily from the repository.
>>
>> Only problem I've had so far is related to my computer being old. That
>> caused a problem running OpenGL with my graphics card, so the special
>> desktop effects have been disabled. Not an issue really though.
>>
>> Pooh mentioned that this is his favorite version of Linux. Not sure if
>> he was referring to OpenSUSE or SUSE though.
>>
>> As for the updating problem I had at first (that initial mega-update
>> that took around two hours), well, that hasn't occurred again. The
>> system has done some updating but now it goes real quickly.
>>
>> Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
>> though.
>>
>
> what graphic card are you using?

Really, it's not a big issue. I had the exact same problem with Mageia.

> have you tried posting your issue in the openSUSE forums?

No, not yet. Probably not worth the effort. After all, the card only has
128 mb of video ram on it.

[John Corliss (ES)]

Jon, I haven't completely migrated yet. I'm running SUSE on my old computer.

This computer though, is running XP MPE SP3. It's a Sony VAIO
VGC-RA837GY and has a tv card in it. I don't watch tv on this computer
though. In fact, I made a batch file to turn off all the Media Center
background crap and put a shortcut to it on the desktop. I run the batch
file every time I start this computer, right after startup.

If I was going to watch and record tv on it though, I've heard that a
good distro for this computer might be Mythbuntu. However, Distrowatch
also mentions KnoppMyth and Mythdora. All of them use MythTV:

http://www.mythtv.org

Frankly though, I don't see much point in using a computer to watch
television. That's what a television is for. U.S. Television sucks
anyway: 50% commercials and 95% reruns of crappy series I didn't watch
when they were new.

If I ever am in a position to buy a new PC, it won't have a television
card or Windows on it.

[Dave]

Another good one for TV and media center in general is XBMC.
http://xbmc.org/

Dave

--
Registered Linux User #444770
Fedora

[Craig]

On 11/16/2012 01:08 PM, John Corliss wrote:

> Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
> though.

I hope you enjoy it.

Listen, two things I'd recommend

Start up & maintain a "knowledge base," in whatever medium works for you
(logbook, spreadsheet, etc).

You probably already do this for Win but, in the case of Linux, you'll
find that you'll be able to use these entries as a foundation for
automating & check-listing - stuff that really streamlines admin.

The second is to start lurking and register at w/e community forum you
find most useful for OpenSUSE. The SUSE community is one of the more
mature and they have a solid tradition of providing excellent
documentation.

hth,

--
-Craig

[John Corliss]

Craig wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Overall, it's a very nice operating system. Lots of exploring to do yet
>> though.
>
> I hope you enjoy it.
>
> Listen, two things I'd recommend
>
> Start up & maintain a "knowledge base," in whatever medium works for you
> (logbook, spreadsheet, etc).

Already started.

> You probably already do this for Win

Yep. I call it my "Tips, notes and manuals" folder.

> but, in the case of Linux, you'll
> find that you'll be able to use these entries as a foundation for
> automating & check-listing - stuff that really streamlines admin.
>
> The second is to start lurking and register at w/e community forum you
> find most useful for OpenSUSE. The SUSE community is one of the more
> mature and they have a solid tradition of providing excellent
> documentation.

That would be http://forums.opensuse.org/english/

This morning, I changed the wallpaper and all of my desktop icons were
rearranged into a vertical line on the left hand side. I quit and went
back to bed at that point.

Also, when I installed openSUSE over my existing copy of Mageia, I
thought it would format the drive and install openSUSE. Silly me. It
kept the account folder structure from Mageia which is now an
unnecessary "ghost" folder and subfolder set that I don't use and can't
delete for some reason.

[John Corliss]

John Corliss wrote:
> Craig wrote:
>>
>> ...start lurking and register at w/e community forum you

>> find most useful for OpenSUSE. The SUSE community is one of the more
>> mature and they have a solid tradition of providing excellent
>> documentation.
>
> That would be http://forums.opensuse.org/english/

https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp

They want me to register all of my very private demographic information
with them and that's not going to happen.

This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.

[Bear]

John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:gaadnT6gJOPNZDXN...@posted.ccountrynet:

> Also, when I installed openSUSE over my existing copy of Mageia, I
> thought it would format the drive and install openSUSE. Silly me. It
> kept the account folder structure from Mageia which is now an
> unnecessary "ghost" folder and subfolder set that I don't use and can't
> delete for some reason.

Welcome to Linux. The most convoluted OS on the planet. Small wonder 99% of
desktop users rejected it.

--
Bear
http://bearware.info
Header Path: news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!
not-for-mail

[Bear]

John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:gZednWzHFuq3YzXN...@posted.ccountrynet:

> This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.

Keep going...their are over 600 of them.

[Dave]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:26:31 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

> John Corliss wrote:
>> Craig wrote:
>>>
>>> ...start lurking and register at w/e community forum you find most
>>> useful for OpenSUSE. The SUSE community is one of the more mature and
>>> they have a solid tradition of providing excellent documentation.
>>
>> That would be http://forums.opensuse.org/english/
>
> https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp
>
> They want me to register all of my very private demographic information
> with them and that's not going to happen.
>
> This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.

The gmane groups(mailing lists)are very good for info on SUSE.
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.suse.general
http://gmane.org/subscribe.php

[Bear]

Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
news:rv0ia8h5c27pnd7rv...@net.com:

> John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>:

>
>> > That would be http://forums.opensuse.org/english/
>>
>> https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp
>>
>> They want me to register all of my very private demographic
>> information with them and that's not going to happen.
>

> What's the problem?
>
> First Name* Joan
>
> Last Name* Corlys
>
> Job Title* Writer
>
> Company* ACF
>
> Street Address* 56789 Freeware Ave
>
> Address 2 PO Box 0
>
> Address 3 PO Box 00
>
> City* Atown
>
> Zip/Postal Code* NOV 201218
>
> Country* Antarctica
>
> State/Province* South Pole
>
> Telephone* 10000000001
>
> Email Address* thro...@temporary.invalid

>
>> This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.
>

> Have you tried these usenet groups: 'alt.linux.suse' and
> 'alt.os.linux.suse'?
>
> Yrrah
>

Fabulous. Use their free tool and lie your ass off to them.

If you can't be honest with their request, you should not use their
software.

[Jon Danniken]

On 11/18/2012 07:05 AM, John Corliss wrote:
>
> Also, when I installed openSUSE over my existing copy of Mageia, I
> thought it would format the drive and install openSUSE. Silly me. It
> kept the account folder structure from Mageia which is now an
> unnecessary "ghost" folder and subfolder set that I don't use and can't
> delete for some reason.

You should be able to delete it by performing the action as root
, "sudo rm -R /directory", which would prompt you for the root password,
and recursively remove the /directory directory and everything in it.

If you get a "<name> is not a sudoer", then you'll have to change to
root seperately, by doing "su - ", which will prompt you for root
password, and change you to /root directory. Then you can "rm -R
/directory" as root.

When you are done, use "exit".

Jon

[Gordon Darling]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:31:18 +0000, Bear B. Troll wrote:


> Welcome to Linux. The most convoluted OS on the planet. Small wonder 99%
> of desktop users rejected it.

Welcome to the Bear. The dumbest troll on the planet. Small wonder 99%
of usenet has him killfiled.

Go away little boy. This thread is for men who understand things such as
fdisk -l. Go and play with your toy website.

[p-0'0-h the cat]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:26:31 -0800, John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.

Ha Ha. Lordy Lordy.

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Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,

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[Cyril of Alexandria]

Bear, when did you stop lying to ACF?

[John Corliss (ES)]

p-0'0-h the cat wrote:

> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.
>
> Ha Ha. Lordy Lordy.

I was just fuckin' with ya, Pooh. 80)>

Sometimes you're just too easy.

[John Corliss (ES)]

Yrrah wrote:
> John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>:

>
>>> That would be http://forums.opensuse.org/english/
>>
>> https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp
>>
>> They want me to register all of my very private demographic information
>> with them and that's not going to happen.
>

> What's the problem?
>
> First Name* Joan
>
> Last Name* Corlys
>
> Job Title* Writer
>
> Company* ACF
>
> Street Address* 56789 Freeware Ave
>
> Address 2 PO Box 0
>
> Address 3 PO Box 00
>
> City* Atown
>
> Zip/Postal Code* NOV 201218
>
> Country* Antarctica
>
> State/Province* South Pole
>
> Telephone* 10000000001
>
> Email Address* thro...@temporary.invalid
>

>> This may be grounds for finding yet another distro.
>

> Have you tried these usenet groups: 'alt.linux.suse' and
> 'alt.os.linux.suse'?

Thanks, Yrrah, but I was just yanking Pooh's chain. Yes, I'll probably
fake the info. Otherwise, there are other forums and the newsgroups
you've listed.

[Duddit's]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:49:01 -0800, "John Corliss (ES)"
<q34w...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I was just fuckin' with ya, Pooh. 80)>
>
>Sometimes you're just too easy.

Pooh is a troll and you know it. YOU are a troll feeder and you know
this too. Therefore

[Bear]

Duddit's <Dud...@Dreamcatcher.invalid> wrote in
news:nlfia8datp5v2bmgf...@4ax.com:

Jeez Dud....you just replied to Pooh. Now ya gotta killfile yeself.

[Mark Warner]

John Corliss wrote:
>
> Also, when I installed openSUSE over my existing copy of Mageia, I
> thought it would format the drive and install openSUSE. Silly me. It
> kept the account folder structure from Mageia which is now an
> unnecessary "ghost" folder and subfolder set that I don't use and can't
> delete for some reason.

You thought wrong, obviously. Since this is your first real attempt at
using Linux, and is at this point still a training exercise, how about
reinstalling? This time incorporate what you've learned to this point,
and look specifically for the point in the installation process where
you made the wrong choice?

[Sir Cumference]

Bear wrote:

> Welcome to Linux. The most convoluted OS on the planet. Small wonder 99%
> of desktop users rejected it.

Your numbers are waaaay off - likely by, oh, 98.83% or so.

Since only about 90% of users use Windows, 99% is impossible. Further,
very few of those 90% *rejected* Linux because all they did was "purchase
a computer" which was pre-installed with Windows. Hardly any of them even
knew/know there is a choice.

"Hey, it's a computer,right? Can I watch videos, send emails? What the
heck is an operating system?"

The only thing that is convoluted is the BearBrain.

[p-0'0-h the cat]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:34:06 -0500, Mark Warner
<mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

>John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> Also, when I installed openSUSE over my existing copy of Mageia, I
>> thought it would format the drive and install openSUSE. Silly me. It
>> kept the account folder structure from Mageia which is now an
>> unnecessary "ghost" folder and subfolder set that I don't use and can't
>> delete for some reason.
>
>You thought wrong, obviously. Since this is your first real attempt at
>using Linux, and is at this point still a training exercise, how about
>reinstalling? This time incorporate what you've learned to this point,
>and look specifically for the point in the installation process where
>you made the wrong choice?

Oh good Lord. Real men NEVER reinstall.

[Bear]

Sir Cumference <si...@nowhere.inv> wrote in
news:k8blm4$d0d$1...@dont-email.me:

I said 99% of desktop users rejected Linux, not 99% of Windows
users...your analogy is stupid.

I'll accept your 90% use Windows number which leaves 9% using something
other than Linux...Like OS X.

Computer makers have tried to sell boxes with Linux installed and it
didn't help the numbers at all...in fact people didn't want those
either.

Of course you think 99% of computer users are stupid because they don't
choose Linux - ever. Clue, it's because Linux sucks as compared to
Windows or OS X.

John is finding that out. What, he has tried six or seven distros? Only
593 to go. Boy will he be pissed. :)

[Mark Warner]

Bear wrote:
>
> John is finding that out. What, he has tried six or seven distros? Only
> 593 to go. Boy will he be pissed. :)

So far he's installed two that I know of.

Which is two more than you.

[Bear]

Mark Warner <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote in news:agtb19Fbq40U1
@mid.individual.net:

> So far he's installed two that I know of.
>
> Which is two more than you.

Ha, he has a good ways to go to catch up with me. I looked at about 15
before I accepted the fact that Linux isn't for me. Leave it to people who
like to bottom feed.

[Craig]

On 11/18/2012 09:06 AM, Bear wrote:
> If you can't be honest with their request, you should not use their
> software.

But you advocate breaking licenses all the time. Changing your tune, again?

--
-Craig

[Madame Angela Merkel, Kanzler of Deutschland]

Bear, caught again,by Haby of all people. Wake up LiarBear, Haby has
you surveilled. BUSTED! Quit all that lying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John Corliss]

Mark Warner wrote:
> Bear wrote:
>>
>> John is finding that out. What, he has tried six or seven distros?
>> Only 593 to go. Boy will he be pissed. :)
>
> So far he's installed two that I know of.
>
> Which is two more than you.

Actually Mark, I tried a few live CDs in addition to Mageia and openSUSE.

In the case of Ubuntu with it's dreadful "Unity" desktop environment and
privacy issues (see the Wikipedia page about on the "Unity (user
interface"), I decided that I absolutely wasn't interested in that distro.

In all, I considered the following before I settled on openSUSE:

Linux Mint
Mageia
PCLinuxOS
Debian
Ubuntu
Bodhi

Some of them are still under consideration. The problem is the computer
I have for testing them. It's hard drive is in questionable condition.
That massive initial update that openSUSE did had the drive clacking the
click of death. Strangely though, it's still running fine for some reason.

[John Corliss]

Craig wrote:
> Bear wrote:
>> If you can't be honest with their request, you should not use their
>> software.
>
> But you advocate breaking licenses all the time. Changing your tune,
> again?

I don't see BB's posts anymore because I'm filtering all of them out in
both of my usenet accounts. Just got sick and tired of the bearpair's
trolling and provoking. But regardless, I will address what (s)he says
in your quote above.

The "request" that openSUSE's forums made for personal demographic
information in order to register for one of their *FORUM* accounts has
absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not I should, or should not,
"use their software".

The openSUSE Linux distro doesn't require registration either before or
after installing it. PERIOD.

OTOH, using their forums is up to the discretion of an end user of their
distro.

Of course, since I am unable to see BB's OP I don't know the context of
his (or Jax's) statement but I doubt that it matters much.

[John Corliss]

Duddit's wrote:
> John Corliss (ES)wrote:

>>
>> I was just fuckin' with ya, Pooh. 80)>
>>
>> Sometimes you're just too easy.
>
> Pooh is a troll and you know it. YOU are a troll feeder and you know
> this too. Therefore

Duddits, you've made this threat many times before in the past. I don't
care if you filter me out. In fact, please do.

YOU are not going to dictate to ME who I can and can't reply to and what
I can post.

In short. GFY, you idiot.

[John Corliss (ES)]

Mark Warner wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> Also, when I installed openSUSE over my existing copy of Mageia, I
>> thought it would format the drive and install openSUSE. Silly me. It
>> kept the account folder structure from Mageia which is now an
>> unnecessary "ghost" folder and subfolder set that I don't use and
>> can't delete for some reason.
>
> You thought wrong, obviously.

Thanks for pointing that out for me. I never would have figured that out
on my own.

> Since this is your first real attempt at
> using Linux, and is at this point still a training exercise, how about
> reinstalling? This time incorporate what you've learned to this point,
> and look specifically for the point in the installation process where
> you made the wrong choice?

Well Mark, the reason I don't is mainly due to the age of the equipment
I have openSUSE installed on. That massive initial update I complained
about had the hard drive in the unit clacking like a hammer on an anvil.
Strangely enough though, the computer is still working fine. The drive
is probably on its way out though. I don't think it would survive a
reinstall or the installation of another distro.

[p-0'0-h the cat]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:44:09 -0800, John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Duddit's wrote:
>> John Corliss (ES)wrote:
>>>
>>> I was just fuckin' with ya, Pooh. 80)>
>>>
>>> Sometimes you're just too easy.
>>
>> Pooh is a troll and you know it. YOU are a troll feeder and you know
>> this too. Therefore
>
>Duddits, you've made this threat many times before in the past. I don't
>care if you filter me out. In fact, please do.
>
>YOU are not going to dictate to ME who I can and can't reply to and what
>I can post.
>
>In short. GFY, you idiot.

You tell him Johnny. No one fucks with you.

[p-0'0-h the cat]

On 18 Nov 2012 20:38:20 GMT, Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:

>Duddit's <Dud...@Dreamcatcher.invalid> wrote in
>news:nlfia8datp5v2bmgf...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:49:01 -0800, "John Corliss (ES)"
>> <q34w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I was just fuckin' with ya, Pooh. 80)>
>>>
>>>Sometimes you're just too easy.
>>
>> Pooh is a troll and you know it. YOU are a troll feeder and you know
>> this too. Therefore
>
>Jeez Dud....you just replied to Pooh. Now ya gotta killfile yeself.

I would like to apologise for my previous slur against turnips.

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Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,

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[Bear]

Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in
news:k8c73b$pet$1...@dont-email.me:

Depends on the specific instance. Some things can't be regulated even if
they have high hopes.

So why avoid answering the question Craig?

[Duddits]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:44:09 -0800, John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>

>Duddits, you've made this threat many times before in the past. I don't
>care if you filter me out. In fact, please do.

It wasn't a threat as you were filtered out for a very long time but
I've recently reviewed and upgraded my filters. My posts are from
Easy News ONLY. There has been NO response from me to you in over a
year.
You are responding to a troll. Now who is the idiot?
Learn how to read headers :-/

Dud

[Mark Warner]

John Corliss wrote:
> Mark Warner wrote:
>> Bear wrote:
>>>
>>> John is finding that out. What, he has tried six or seven distros?
>>> Only 593 to go. Boy will he be pissed. :)
>>
>> So far he's installed two that I know of.
>>
>> Which is two more than you.
>
> Actually Mark, I tried a few live CDs in addition to Mageia and openSUSE.

*Installed* was the operative word.

> In all, I considered the following before I settled on openSUSE:
>
> Linux Mint
> Mageia
> PCLinuxOS
> Debian
> Ubuntu
> Bodhi

I don't recall you saying whether you tried SimplyMEPIS (my personal
distro of choice) or not. If/when you go on another testing spree, humor
me and give it a spin. I'd like to hear your impressions. It's KDE, so
it wouldn't be totally unfamiliar.

> Some of them are still under consideration. The problem is the computer
> I have for testing them. It's hard drive is in questionable condition.
> That massive initial update that openSUSE did had the drive clacking the
> click of death. Strangely though, it's still running fine for some reason.

I've got a couple dozen IDE hard drives of various sizes stacked up in
my closet. I could send you a couple. Nothing big, but plenty big enough
to play with.

--
Mark Warner
...lose .inhibitions when replying

[John Corliss]

Mark Warner wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Mark Warner wrote:
>>> Bear wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John is finding that out. What, he has tried six or seven distros?
>>>> Only 593 to go. Boy will he be pissed. :)
>>>
>>> So far he's installed two that I know of.
>>>
>>> Which is two more than you.
>>
>> Actually Mark, I tried a few live CDs in addition to Mageia and openSUSE.
>
> *Installed* was the operative word.
>
>> In all, I considered the following before I settled on openSUSE:
>>
>> Linux Mint
>> Mageia
>> PCLinuxOS
>> Debian
>> Ubuntu
>> Bodhi
>
> I don't recall you saying whether you tried SimplyMEPIS (my personal
> distro of choice) or not. If/when you go on another testing spree, humor
> me and give it a spin. I'd like to hear your impressions. It's KDE, so
> it wouldn't be totally unfamiliar.

I was unable to find a home page for SimplyMEPIS. I found MEPIS though:

http://www.mepis.org/

Distrowatch seems to say that they're one and the same. Also according
to Distrowatch, it looks like the last release was May 5, 2011.

I'm pretty invested in openSUSE at this point. Regardless, can you point
out a few reasons why the distro is any better than another? IOW, is
there any special feature that makes it worth going for?

TIA.

>> Some of them are still under consideration. The problem is the
>> computer I have for testing them. It's hard drive is in questionable
>> condition. That massive initial update that openSUSE did had the drive
>> clacking the click of death. Strangely though, it's still running fine
>> for some reason.
>
> I've got a couple dozen IDE hard drives of various sizes stacked up in
> my closet. I could send you a couple. Nothing big, but plenty big enough
> to play with.

Thanks. That's a pretty nice offer, but I wouldn't put you though that.

[Bear]

John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:cM2dnRwy3vvLgjbN...@posted.ccountrynet:

If he shows up though, you would take the bat to him right?

[Yvonne Charlotte Anne Marie (Vendroux) de Gaulle]

On Nov 20, 2:14 am, Bear <bearbotto...@gmai.com> wrote:
> John Corliss <q34ws...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:cM2dnRwy3vvLgjbN...@posted.ccountrynet:

> Bearhttp://bearware.info
> Header Path: news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!
> news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail

No Bear,if YOU show upwithout Jax in tow,I will take a baseball bat
toyou. I need Jax' tallow.

[Mark Warner]

John Corliss wrote:
> Mark Warner wrote:
>>
>> I don't recall you saying whether you tried SimplyMEPIS (my personal
>> distro of choice) or not. If/when you go on another testing spree, humor
>> me and give it a spin. I'd like to hear your impressions. It's KDE, so
>> it wouldn't be totally unfamiliar.
>
> I was unable to find a home page for SimplyMEPIS. I found MEPIS though:
>
> http://www.mepis.org/
>
> Distrowatch seems to say that they're one and the same. Also according
> to Distrowatch, it looks like the last release was May 5, 2011.

Yeah, they're the same thing. The developer is starting work on a new
version, but it's slow going, owing to the new UEFI boot mechanism and
Secure Boot bullshit that Microsoft is shoving down everyone's throat.

> I'm pretty invested in openSUSE at this point. Regardless, can you point
> out a few reasons why the distro is any better than another? IOW, is
> there any special feature that makes it worth going for?

I had the impression you were still on the lookout for something you
might feel more comfortable with. If I'm mistaken...

I prefer MEPIS for a couple reasons, primarily because it's essentially
Debian made easy. There's an elegance and simplicity to it that I
appreciate. Nothing wrong with SUSE, it's just never "clicked" with me.
You'll find that when people advocate for one distro or another, it's
more a function of personal taste & preference and familiarity than
anything else. At least that's the case with my recommendation. I also
wanted to get the reaction of someone that's tech savvy but a total newb
with Linux. MEPIS is *supposed* to be "easy" for new adopters; I wanted
to see if you felt it was living up to its billing.

>> I've got a couple dozen IDE hard drives of various sizes stacked up in
>> my closet. I could send you a couple. Nothing big, but plenty big enough
>> to play with.
>
> Thanks. That's a pretty nice offer, but I wouldn't put you though that.

Suit yourself. No hassle at all. They're just gathering dust. Not big
enough for a mainstay machine (20G-40G) but plenty big for a "learin'
Linux" box. All I need is an address. You can unmunge my email as stated
in my sig line.

[POKO]

In article <ah1rff...@mid.individual.net>,
mhwarner.i...@gmail.com says...

Ditto on the collection here - even have 2 at 4 Gig; can you imagine the
'puters I got them out of,
POKO

--
Pat Keenan - Webmaster
Manitoulin Island Web Design
http://www.manitoulinislandindex.com

[Mark Warner]

POKO wrote:
>
> Ditto on the collection here - even have 2 at 4 Gig; can you imagine the
> 'puters I got them out of,

I think I've still got a couple IBM Deathstar 4.3s.

[Bear]

Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
news:8p7oa8d58g3bhavjn...@net.com:

> Mark Warner <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com>:

>
>> > In all, I considered the following before I settled on openSUSE:
>
>> > Linux Mint
>> > Mageia
>> > PCLinuxOS
>> > Debian
>> > Ubuntu
>> > Bodhi
>
>> I don't recall you saying whether you tried SimplyMEPIS (my personal
>> distro of choice) or not. If/when you go on another testing spree,
>> humor me and give it a spin. I'd like to hear your impressions. It's
>> KDE, so it wouldn't be totally unfamiliar.
>

> I would like to see the Boring Buffoon's opinion on this before I make
> a choice. After all, he is the great freeware researcher and all-round
> ict expert here.
>
> Yrrah
>
>
>

If you are waiting for my opinion on Linux you are wasting your time. I
would prefer OS X over Linux ... but ew.

[Mark Warner]

Bear wrote:
> Yrrah wrote

>>
>> I would like to see the Boring Buffoon's opinion on this before I make
>> a choice. After all, he is the great freeware researcher and all-round
>> ict expert here.
>

> If you are waiting for my opinion on Linux you are wasting your time. I
> would prefer OS X over Linux ... but ew.

Of course you would. It's installed *for* you.

fdisk -l

[Bear]

Mark Warner <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote in

news:ah2rej...@mid.individual.net:

> Bear wrote:
>> Yrrah wrote
>>>
>>> I would like to see the Boring Buffoon's opinion on this before I
>>> make a choice. After all, he is the great freeware researcher and
>>> all-round ict expert here.
>>
>> If you are waiting for my opinion on Linux you are wasting your time.
>> I would prefer OS X over Linux ... but ew.
>
> Of course you would. It's installed *for* you.
>
> fdisk -l
>

You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy to
install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that way
though). The probems come after the install.

So it doesn't matter if your ploy detracts from Linux, as Linux has
issues other OSs do not anyway. It is why it never took off on the
desktop.

Well, maybe that was a poor choice of words. It gets took off a lot :)

[Shadow]

On 21 Nov 2012 13:17:24 GMT, Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:

>You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
>Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy to
>install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that way
>though). The probems come after the install.

What "probems" did YOU have ? Can you be more specific ?
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[Bear]

Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote in news:42npa8dr120fc9phl8jnunor1eil09e0nh@
4ax.com:

Many already listed in previous threads. Hardware that just won't work
among the most serious. Especially on laptops.

Linux is easy to configure for the most basic things, but getting
everything to work turns into a nightmare in many cases if you can get
it to work at all. If I own it, I want to use it.

If you purchase a machine, all of the hardware works. Even if you update
or install a new OS unless you try Linux. If you do not know or
understand this, you have very little actual knowledge/understanding of
Linux.

[Mark Warner]

Shadow wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2012 13:17:24 GMT, Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:
>
>> You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
>> Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy to
>> install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that way
>> though). The probems come after the install.
>
> What "probems" did YOU have ? Can you be more specific ?

He can't. He's not successfully installed it.

fdisk -l

--
Mark Warner

...lose .inhibitions when replying

[Bear]

Mark Warner <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ah4ba3Ftu37U1
@mid.individual.net:

> Shadow wrote:
>> On 21 Nov 2012 13:17:24 GMT, Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
>>> Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy to
>>> install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that way
>>> though). The probems come after the install.
>>
>> What "probems" did YOU have ? Can you be more specific ?
>
> He can't. He's not successfully installed it.
>
> fdisk -l
>

I'm glad you think so. After all, installing Linux distros is so very
difficult. Why would they do that? Small minds?

[Mark Warner]

Bear wrote:
> If you do not know or
> understand this, you have very little actual knowledge/understanding of
> Linux.

It gets tiresome hearing you talk about yourself constantly.

[John Corliss]

Shadow wrote:

> Bear wrote:
>>
>> You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
>> Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy to
>> install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that way
>> though). The probems come after the install.
>
> What "probems" did YOU have ? Can you be more specific ?

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[Mark Warner]

John Corliss wrote:
> Shadow wrote:
>> Bear wrote:
>>>
>>> You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
>>> Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy to
>>> install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that way
>>> though). The probems come after the install.
>>
>> What "probems" did YOU have ? Can you be more specific ?
>

> | Please don't |
> | feed the Trolls |

Normally I wouldn't. Unfortunately, there seem to be a few poor,
impressionable souls left who think BB has a bit of knowledge about such
things. To counter the misinformation, bad advise, and outright lies, BB
needs to be held up to ridicule whenever he delves into this area.

Thankfully, that's easy to do.

[Bear]

Mark Warner <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote in

news:ah54vh...@mid.individual.net:

> John Corliss wrote:
>> Shadow wrote:
>>> Bear wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You idiots don't realize that you are actually detracting from
>>>> Linux...though I know it is just a game for you. Linux is as easy
>>>> to install as any of the operating systems are (wasn't always that
>>>> way though). The probems come after the install.
>>>
>>> What "probems" did YOU have ? Can you be more specific ?
>>
>> | Please don't |
>> | feed the Trolls |
>
> Normally I wouldn't. Unfortunately, there seem to be a few poor,
> impressionable souls left who think BB has a bit of knowledge about
> such things. To counter the misinformation, bad advise, and outright
> lies, BB needs to be held up to ridicule whenever he delves into this
> area.
>
> Thankfully, that's easy to do.
>

Ha, you haven't come close to succeeding in you ploy of lies. They are
too easily seen through. You think if you say it, people will believe
you...too funny. You have yet to prove one single thing I have stated
that was wrong. You always revert to childish insult...no substance.

Did I say you are too dimwitted to play this game?

[Tommy]

"Mark Warner" <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote

I think thats the part that those with a bit of knowledge are skirting
around Mark -
I'm sure anyone with a half a head of sense, even someone gullible and
undereducated, need only take a look at one or two of his posts to see what
a thundering halfwit he is.

My fear is that sooner or later he will become so embarassed at his own
ignorance that he might leave the group.
In one move he will have killed off any joys I get outside of playing
around with computers and programmes.

Only time I ever saw as much ridiculous bullshit was from a committee -
whaddya think, is he a group hahahaha

On another note I got a fairly modern Toshiba lappy with Vista installed.
Fool managed to corrupt winload.exe.. and then boot mngr.

A soon as I got one going, the other fecked up. Toshibas have 4 partitions,
one for data where the backup/recovery is stored.

Luckily theres 3 or 4 different ways to re-locate winload (it isn't always
stored in system 32)

Advice to any/everyone... DO a frigging recovery disc :-))
Cheers
Tommy

[Nicetameetya]

On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:36:58 -0500, Mark Warner
<mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> shouted from the highest rooftop:

>Bear wrote:
>> If you do not know or
>> understand this, you have very little actual knowledge/understanding of
>> Linux.
>
>It gets tiresome hearing you talk about yourself constantly.

Old saying: The sweetest song to the jackass ear
is the song that the jackass sings.

[George Washington Carver]

Bear,when did you stop lying to ACF?

[p-0'0-h the cat]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:13:56 +1300, Nicetameetya <gd...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Put the gun down.

--
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Internet Terrorist, Mass sock puppeteer, Agent provocateur, Gutter rat,
Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker, Resident evil, Monkey Boy,
Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,

the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme

[Bear]

Nicetameetya <gd...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:ah5jjj...@mid.individual.net:

Were you smiling when you said that :)

[MiniMouse]

Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote in
news:XnsA112B4F0D5FE1be...@130.225.254.104:

>
> Ha, you haven't come close to succeeding in you ploy of lies. They are
> too easily seen through. You think if you say it, people will believe
> you...too funny. You have yet to prove one single thing I have stated
> that was wrong. You always revert to childish insult...no substance.
>
>

Hey BBoi, I've always thought it was you who does the lieing on ACF.

[Bear]

MiniMouse <Mini...@invalid.net> wrote in
news:XnsA113419D81BAFM...@8.17.249.106:

Recommendation: Don't ever think again - it appears to be harmful to /your/
health.

[Tommy]

"Nicetameetya" <gd...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:ah5jjj...@mid.individual.net...

In the bearfools case it a matter of "you have to listen to thunder"

Cheers
SilenTommy

[Bear]

"Tommy" <tommyle...@geemale.com> wrote in
news:ah7rlt...@mid.individual.net:

LOL...you cowards hiding behind anonohandles are hilarious.