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worktobye worktobye

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Dec 2, 2009, 7:26:14 AM12/2/09
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Our target:
* Rip Blu-ray to PC hard drive, HDD and crack Blu-ray encryption.
* Convert Bluray movies to DivX, DVD, ISO, AVI, MP4, MPEG, FLV, WMV,
M2ts, MOV, VOB, Rm, 3GP, XviD, MPG, ASF and more video formats for
iPod, iPhone, PSP, Zune, PS3, iRiver, Archos, Creative Zen, Pocket PC,
Blackberry and other portable media players, mobile phones. .
* Extract audio from Blu-ray disc and save as MP3, WAV, AAC, M4a, WMA,
etc.
* Copy Blu-ray disc as a backup.

Solution 1: Use Blu-ray Disc Ripper (Hard to handle, 100% free)
It is designed to help you backup your commercial Blu-ray BD movies.
Some third party tools (Java Runtime Environment, CPS Unit Key) are
required so that get the Blu-ray ripper to work.
Free Download: http://www.aidownloading.com/download/freeware/bluray-disc-ripper.zip

http://www.aidownloading.com/images/guide/blu-ray-disc-ripper.jpg

Step 1. Download Blu-ray Disc Ripper, install and launch the software.
Hint: The solution works for Windows Vista/XP with .Net framework 2.0
installed. UDF 2.5 file system is also needed if you use Windows XP so
that Blu ray files are visible to Windows.
Step 2. Input CPS Key, and hit "Start" button.

Solution 2: Use Avgo Media Recorder (Slow speed, free)
Output file format supported: iPod video, MP4, 3GP, 3GPP, 3G2, Apple
TV, ASF, AVI, Blu-ray AVI HD, Blu-ray H.264 HD, blu-ray MP4 HD, FLV,
Youtube, Flash, SWF, iPhone, MOV, MPEG4, MPEG1, MPEG2, RM, Pocket PC,
PSP, WMV, PDA, VCD, SVCD, VOB, Zune, AAC, AC3, M4a, MP3, MP2, RA,
WMA.
Free Download: http://www.aidownloading.com/download/freeware/bluray-recorder.zip

http://www.aidownloading.com/images/guide/avgo-media-recorder.jpg

Step 1. Download and launch Avgo Media Recorder.
Hint: Close all media players, including PowerDVD, WinDVD and Windows
Media player.
Step 2. Run PowerDVD, and play your Blu-ray movies.
Step 3. Select the output format from 'Profile'. You can choose the
common video/audio format like AVI, VOB, WMV, MP4, DVD, FLV. If you
would like to rip Blu-ray disc to portable multimedia players like
iPod, PSP, Zune or iPhone, just select the device.
Hint: If you'd like to customize video encoder, audio codec, frame
rate, sample rate, video bitrate, video size or disable audio, just
click on the 'Advanced' button.
Step 4. Optional: Set the 'Recording Duration', 'Crop', 'Resize'
parameters.
Step 5. Hit 'Record' button to start the fast blu-ray DVD ripping
process.

Solution 3: Use Blu-ray Ripper(Easist and best way, shareware)
Works perfect for almost all Blu-ray movies even the latest one. It is
the frequently updated software for decrypting and ripping Blu-ray
disc to your computer's hard disk.
Frail Trial: http://www.aidownloading.com/download/avc-blu-ray-ripper-276907.exe
Get full version: http://www.regnow.com/softsell/nph-softsell.cgi?item=19846-27&affiliate=276907
Learn More: http://www.aidownloading.com/blu-ray-ripper.html

http://www.aidownloading.com/images/guide/avc-blu-ray-ripper1.jpg

Step 1. Add DVD
Insert a blu-ray disc, and click "Add Folder" button to select the
inserted disc in the dialog box that opens, and load it.
Step 2. Select output format
Choose one or more files in the file list, and open "Profile" drop-
down list, then select an output format for selected files.
Tip: To adjust the output settings, click "Settings" button next to
Profile drop-down list, and set the parameters of output format in the
Advanced Profile Settings dialog box that opens.
Step 3. Set output folder
Click Browse button in setting panel, select a destination folder in
the dialog box that opens, and click OK.
Tip: Before start to convert files, you can trim video, crop video
screen, adjust and dd effects, and create watermark to colorize your
output file.
Step 4. Convert file
After finishing the above settings, check the files needed to convert
in the file list, and click Convert Checked Item(s) button at the
right bottom to start converting the files. You can view the
conversion progress from the progress bar at the bottom of the window.
Tip: You can click Pause Checked Item(s) button to pause the
converting process and Stop Checked Item(s) button to cancel the
process as required.

Done!

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David H. Lipman

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Dec 2, 2009, 4:56:36 PM12/2/09
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From: "F. Reeware" <F.Reewa...@invalid.invalid>

| But are the programs freeware?
| Whose website did you copy the text from?

| F. Reeware

It is a 'nym shifting Google Grouper as$hole.

The software is NOT free and the site has been spammed several times in the past.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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partake06 partake06

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:16:24 AM12/7/09
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as for me, i usually use Moyea Blu-ray Ripper for Mac to help me
direactly copy Blu-ray to my hard drive and convert them to MP4 for
playback on my PS3.

And it seems that there is no other this kind of program workable on
Mac, only this one can do the job.
http://www.my-video-converter.com/blu_ray_ripper_mac/

kayla...@gmail.com

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Jul 17, 2013, 3:57:47 AM7/17/13
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To rip Blu-rays, Aunsoft blu-ray ripper is a good choice. It can make full disk copy or convert blu-ray to playback on devives. For detailed information, please check
http://www.aunsoft.com/blu-ray-ripper/

kayla...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2013, 11:19:04 PM8/14/13
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To rip Blu-rays, Aunsoft Blu-ray ripper is the best choice, it rips/converts Blu-ray/DVD with high quality. The most important is that Aunsoft gives 50% off for Blu-ray ripper, you can get the software with only half price now.
http://www.aunsoft.com/2013-back-to-school/

kayla...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2013, 11:20:16 PM8/14/13
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Flasherly

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Aug 15, 2013, 10:30:29 AM8/15/13
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What I've noticed, for XP a generic driver is prerequiste (Toshiba),
whereas Win7 BR hardware support is fundamentally already provided. At
the hardware interface level I'd imagine there might be a broader base
of pertinence and alternatives to actually, if anything, paying at
all.
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~BD~

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Aug 15, 2013, 11:52:50 AM8/15/13
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Dustin wrote:
> kayla...@gmail.com wrote in
> news:6a812f30-6c8b-454b...@googlegroups.com:
> I don't think so.
>
>
> If somebody wants to make an archival copy of their dvd/bluray, DVDFab
> Decrypter is the way to go. The free version will handle most situations just
> fine. Although, I'll tell you that the new interface does make the program
> kludgy on older hardware.
>
> http://www.dvdfab.com/

This seems as good a time as any for reminding you of the law!

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html

Quote:

Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not,
what is the penalty for doing so?

Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the
authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright
owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone
found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory
damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful
infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be
increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an
infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred
by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.
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~BD~

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Aug 15, 2013, 6:00:31 PM8/15/13
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Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:I6OdnVUTV8zPZJHP...@bt.com:
>
>> Dustin wrote:
>>> kayla...@gmail.com wrote in
>>> news:6a812f30-6c8b-454b...@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> To rip Blu-rays, Aunsoft Blu-ray ripper is the best choice, it
>>>> rips/converts Blu-ray/DVD with high quality. The most important is
>>>> that Aunsoft gives 50% off for Blu-ray ripper, you can get the
>>>> software with only half price now.
>>>> http://www.aunsoft.com/2013-back-to-school/
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>> If somebody wants to make an archival copy of their dvd/bluray, DVDFab
>>> Decrypter is the way to go. The free version will handle most
>>> situations just fine. Although, I'll tell you that the new interface
>>> does make the program kludgy on older hardware.
>>>
>>> http://www.dvdfab.com/
>>
>> This seems as good a time as any for reminding you of the law!
>
> Are you a licensed lawyer?

No.

> I don't believe it's legal for you to offer
> legal advice in your country if you aren't a lawyer.

I'm not so doing, Dustin.

> I know you can't pretend to be a lawyer here, it's illegal.

And rightly so.

>> http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not,
>> what is the penalty for doing so?
>
> I don't recall saying anything about downloading/uploading works from any
> peer to peer network. I was responding to a spammer and offered a better
> app that is known and trusted. Now, what somebody else chooses to do with
> the copy it produces is a different matter that does not concern me.

Ah! I'd call it being an accessory to a crime.

> Speaking of copyright tho, I do have a legal right to create an archival
> copy of any audio/data cd or dvd/bluray that I've purchased. If the
> copyright owner has taken additional steps to prevent me from doing so,
> it's still legal to have the archival copy, but not legal to circumvent
> whatever protection is present which tries to keep me from doing so. This
> is just one example of where the law isn't just and isn't for the people
> but is for corporate interests.

Just because something is correct in *your* opinion/view, it doesn' mean
that it is right! One should obey the law, Dustin - always.

> We all know how you worship the dollar, so it's no real stretch to see you
> in total agreement with this method of copyright enforcement.

I don't "worship the dollar" as you put it - but I *DO* support the law,
Dustin.

> I bet you approved of Sonys rootkit efforts too!

Well actually ..... I did! :-)

It rather piqued my interest in the whole subject matter if the truth be
told!

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Jax

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Aug 20, 2013, 9:57:55 AM8/20/13
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Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA21EBC1C0ABD3C9...@94.75.214.90:

> H-Man <Sp...@bites.fs> wrote in news:kulcp9$tbg$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:58:20 +0000 (UTC), Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>>> news:aYGdnUsfVavi0pDP...@bt.com:
>>> Ahh, but you aren't a lawyer right? So your interpretation of the law
>>> doesn't really matter.
>>>
>>>>> Speaking of copyright tho, I do have a legal right to create an
>>>>> archival copy of any audio/data cd or dvd/bluray that I've
>>>>> purchased. If the copyright owner has taken additional steps to
>>>>> prevent me from doing so, it's still legal to have the archival
>>>>> copy, but not legal to circumvent whatever protection is present
>>>>> which tries to keep me from doing so. This is just one example of
>>>>> where the law isn't just and isn't for the people but is for
>>>>> corporate interests.
>>>>
>>>> Just because something is correct in *your* opinion/view, it doesn'
>>>> mean that it is right! One should obey the law, Dustin - always.
>>>
>>> Isn't just my view. I'm not the author of DVDFab. Just a happy user of
>>> it.
>>>
>>>> I don't "worship the dollar" as you put it - but I *DO* support the
>>>> law, Dustin.
>>>
>>> When it's convenient for you to do so, you meant. You were in no rush
>>> to deal with your own local law enforcement.
>>>
>>>>> I bet you approved of Sonys rootkit efforts too!
>>>>
>>>> Well actually ..... I did! :-)
>>>
>>> That speaks volumes. Thanks for confirming the pondscum I've always
>>> known you to be.
>>
>> The law does provide for fair use, and the damaged part would have to
>> prove damages. There are many reasons to make a copy of a BluRay to a
>> DVD where damages would not be provable. For instance, I have BluRay
>> players in the house, but only DVD in the SUV and the cottage. I have
>> paid for the content, so it would be legal for me to make a copy to a
>> different media, as long as I don't play both at the same time. That
>> should fall under the terms of fair use and would not violate any
>> copyright. That's where it gets sticky. The powers have made it, not
>> illegal to make copies, but illegal to circumvent copy protection. Nice
>> to have them on your side, eh? Either way, in this scenario there would
>> be no damages so the copyright holder would have no claim.
>
> They bought the FBI off, they no longer have to prove damages or that it
> was done for financial gain.

Not only that Dustin but groups like HHI are publishing copyright
material.

Downloaders may say HHI was doing a favor by making them a spare copy of
their paid for music. However I suspect HHI may have a harder time
defending their action especially if they didn't check that recipients had
a paid for copy. Just saying!

--
Jax :)

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 11:18:22 AM8/20/13
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If someone leaves their keys in their car and goes shopping, should
they be arrested for facillitating any subsequent theft of that car?
Remember that the car was legally purchased by the one leaving the keys
in the car, and it is not illegal to leave your keys in your car when
going shopping. What if the person was to make a "mock-up" of a car,
fully functional, but made of only 10% of what went into the making of
the *real* car - and left the keys to that? Should they be arrested for
facillitating the theft of a 100% *real* car? What if the car wasn't
really even really stolen, but merely *copied* by a "Star Trek"
replicator?

The CD songs aren't stolen, they are copied and reduced in size (and
quality) and placed where thieves can easily copy them again (but only
the 'cheap' copies are available, not the *real* digital data) which
"copying" is nevertheless considered a crime if the downloader hasn't
paid for the music.

Said 10% is accompanied by text files that contain additional
information about the artists or the process of 'ripping' such that the
entire file resulting from the "torrent" download *might* even make it
qualify as a derivative work to demonstrate the technology used rip,
compress, and to create the torrent.

Just saying!

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 12:06:23 PM8/20/13
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You don't really expect the troll to actually understand any of that, do
you?



--
"I am not made like anyone I have seen; I dare believe I am not made
like anyone in existence. If I am not better, at least I am different."
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

Jax

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Aug 20, 2013, 1:06:50 PM8/20/13
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FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:20130820111818....@nomail.afraid.org:
Rafters.... those are interesting and logical arguments but what actually
matters is how the courts interpret the law. Remember that woman who paid
nearly 1/4 million for downloading a handful of songs? I wouldn't want to
swap places with her!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_v._Thomas

--
Jax

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 1:45:55 PM8/20/13
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No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it were
my own opinion.

~BD~

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FromTheRafters wrote:
[....]
> No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it were
> my own opinion.

Did I once ask you if you downloaded music 'illegally', FTR?

Did you then declare that you did *not* do so?

Did you gain my respect for that?

Why yes - yes you did! :-)

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 1:56:20 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:06:50 +0100
Jax <remove.bea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rafters.... those are interesting and logical arguments but what actually
> matters is how the courts interpret the law. Remember that woman who paid
> nearly 1/4 million for downloading a handful of songs? I wouldn't want to
> swap places with her!

If it's the one I think it is, she was primarily the downloader, not the
uploader - and she shared her ill gotten gains. Were those MP3s that she
downloaded? Did she pay for them - these ones that she later uploaded?
It very different from the scenario where the person legally obtained
the source music for the 10:1 compression algorithm and didn't download
illegally *anything*.

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 2:03:40 PM8/20/13
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I'm fucking sure that pleases him no end and makes him feel so much
better about himself, cunt.

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 2:19:10 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:13 +0100
~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> FromTheRafters wrote:
> [....]
> > No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it were
> > my own opinion.
>
> Did I once ask you if you downloaded music 'illegally', FTR?

At least once. I was going to say "No", but you might take it wrong and
cite a MID where you did ask me that. Then Jax would carry on and on
about me lying no matter how much I tried to explain what the words
she read actually meant.

> Did you then declare that you did *not* do so?

Indeed, I did so claim.

> Did you gain my respect for that?
>
> Why yes - yes you did! :-)

Thanks.

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 2:21:04 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:03:40 +0000 (UTC)
Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:13 +0100, the lying, slimy, cowardly, *STUPID*
> cunt wrote:
>
> > FromTheRafters wrote:
> > [....]
> >> No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it were
> >> my own opinion.
> >
> > Did I once ask you if you downloaded music 'illegally', FTR?
> >
> > Did you then declare that you did *not* do so?
> >
> > Did you gain my respect for that?
> >
> > Why yes - yes you did!
>
> I'm fucking sure that pleases him no end and makes him feel so much
> better about himself, cunt.

I get that warm fuzzy feeling all over. I think I'll go get some free
music from YouTube now since the government hasn't blocked it yet.

~BD~

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Aug 20, 2013, 2:45:22 PM8/20/13
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I don't understand why you high five Aardvark.

He's a first-class dickhead.

Mike Easter

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Aug 20, 2013, 3:00:41 PM8/20/13
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Jax wrote:
> FromTheRafters

>> The CD songs aren't stolen, they are copied and reduced in size (and
>> quality) and placed where thieves can easily copy them again (but only
>> the 'cheap' copies are available, not the *real* digital data) which
>> "copying" is nevertheless considered a crime if the downloader hasn't
>> paid for the music.
>>
>> Said 10% is accompanied by text files that contain additional
>> information about the artists or the process of 'ripping' such that the
>> entire file resulting from the "torrent" download *might* even make it
>> qualify as a derivative work to demonstrate the technology used rip,
>> compress, and to create the torrent.

> Rafters.... those are interesting and logical arguments but what actually
> matters is how the courts interpret the law. Remember that woman who paid
> nearly 1/4 million for downloading a handful of songs? I wouldn't want to
> swap places with her!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_v._Thomas

The MN Ojibwe woman was a Kazaa P2P file-sharer who suffered from
copyright enforcement strategies which are no longer employed. Kazaa is
dead, the strategies are modifed, and the business of copyright
infringement by way of P2P sharing has evolved a long way since Kazaa,
and we are actually discussing a different use of copyrighted material
in the original intent of the topic.

The original idea was the ripping part.

The business of then sharing the ripped and sampled/compressed files is
actually another topic.


--
Mike Easter

Jax

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Aug 20, 2013, 4:45:02 PM8/20/13
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FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:20130820141907....@nomail.afraid.org:

> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:13 +0100
> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> [....]
>> > No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it were
>> > my own opinion.
>>
>> Did I once ask you if you downloaded music 'illegally', FTR?
>
> At least once. I was going to say "No", but you might take it wrong and
> cite a MID where you did ask me that. Then Jax would carry on and on
> about me lying no matter how much I tried to explain what the words
> she read actually meant.

Rafters..... I don't believe I have maligned you unfairly and it's not
something you should worry about. You're one of the good guys! :)

--
Jax
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FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:15:06 PM8/20/13
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Where have I "high fived" Aardvark?
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~BD~

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:33:33 PM8/20/13
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Are you denying that you *do* do so?

It's pretty obvious from here. :-(

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:39:43 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:33:33 +0100
Because I reply to him?

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:43:06 PM8/20/13
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LOL.

~BD~

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:45:20 PM8/20/13
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That's only part of the matter.

It's how you often *appear* to support what he says and never decry his
attitude to other posters.

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:45:40 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:45:22 +0100, the lying, slimy, cowardly, *STUPID*
cunt wrote:

> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:03:40 +0000 (UTC)
>> Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:13 +0100, the lying, slimy, cowardly,
>>> *STUPID*
>>> cunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> [....]
>>>>> No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it
>>>>> were my own opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Did I once ask you if you downloaded music 'illegally', FTR?
>>>>
>>>> Did you then declare that you did *not* do so?
>>>>
>>>> Did you gain my respect for that?
>>>>
>>>> Why yes - yes you did!
>>>
>>> I'm fucking sure that pleases him no end and makes him feel so much
>>> better about himself, cunt.
>>
>> I get that warm fuzzy feeling all over. I think I'll go get some free
>> music from YouTube now since the government hasn't blocked it yet.
>
> I don't understand why you high five Aardvark.
>

Point out where he's ever 'high fived' me, cunt.

> He's a first-class dickhead.

Because I've got you sussed for the slimy, untrustworthy, criminal cunt
you are? Good.

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 5:59:00 PM8/20/13
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That's the way it seems, FTR. And could you point out where you made this
denial he referred to? Fucked if I can see one.

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 6:01:57 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:45:20 +0100, the lying, slimy, cowardly, *STUPID*
By 'other posters', I assume you're referring to yourself and the troll,
cunt? I always treat contemptible creatures with contempt. Nothing wrong
with that.

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 6:12:24 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
Had he accused me of copyright infringement I would have denied it. As
it is, he merely asked me if I downloaded music illegally, so I told
him that I didn't. I have just confirmed that the previous conversation
he refers to actually took place. He asked if I *once* did ... and I was
going to say no because it was more than once.

FromTheRafters

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Aug 20, 2013, 6:24:29 PM8/20/13
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC)
Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:21:04 +0000, FromTheRafters wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:03:40 +0000 (UTC)
> > Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:13 +0100, the lying, slimy, cowardly,
> >> *STUPID*
> >> cunt wrote:
> >>
> >> > FromTheRafters wrote:
> >> > [....]
> >> >> No, and truthfully I'm not at all inclined to defend it as if it
> >> >> were my own opinion.
> >> >
> >> > Did I once ask you if you downloaded music 'illegally', FTR?
> >> >
> >> > Did you then declare that you did *not* do so?
> >> >
> >> > Did you gain my respect for that?
> >> >
> >> > Why yes - yes you did!
> >>
> >> I'm fucking sure that pleases him no end and makes him feel so much
> >> better about himself, cunt.
> >
> > I get that warm fuzzy feeling all over. I think I'll go get some free
> > music from YouTube now since the government hasn't blocked it yet.
>
> LOL

I just think it is silly for the powers that be to attack the
technology just because it frustrates them. It's far to
easy for drug traffickers to distribute their goods when they use a
car, you don't see them shutting down the auto manufacturers.

Aardvark

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Aug 20, 2013, 6:25:09 PM8/20/13
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Understood. :-)

I wonder why he seems so put out that you respond to my posts, referring
to it by the misnomer 'high five'.
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