Childish spats
Mike Easter
invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
--
Mike Easter
Jack Rollins
> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
Obviously, they won't become invisible to those who go out of their way
to read their posts, and then respond to their "childish spats".
--
"Whatever it takes, and no matter how long it takes."
Mike Easter
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
>> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
>
> Obviously, they won't become invisible to those who go out of their way
> to read their posts, and then respond to their "childish spats".
People who respond to childish spats and trollish behavior also have a
tendency to become invisible.
As soon as too many acf regulars become invisible, acf becomes a shadow of
its former self and might not be a viable newsgroup to very many previous
users or posters and lurkers at all.
--
Mike Easter
Geoff Wynns
> Jack Rollins wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
>>> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
>> Obviously, they won't become invisible to those who go out of their way
>> to read their posts, and then respond to their "childish spats".
>
> People who respond to childish spats and trollish behavior also have a
> tendency to become invisible.
You are absolutely correct about that.
> As soon as too many acf regulars become invisible, acf becomes a shadow of
> its former self and might not be a viable newsgroup to very many previous
> users or posters and lurkers at all.
I can't help but feel there will be a loyal remnant that will always be
visible here in acf.
Me.Here
> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
>
>
They already are for some of us, especially those of us using
Thunderbird 3 and it's wonderful filtering capability :-)
--
MH
Richard Steinfeld
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> As soon as too many acf regulars become invisible, acf becomes a shadow of
>> its former self and might not be a viable newsgroup to very many previous
>> users or posters and lurkers at all.
>
> I can't help but feel there will be a loyal remnant that will always be
> visible here in acf.
>
Mike, I'm not sure what you mean by "invisible." My killfile for this NG
is huge. The threshold for the killfile is pretty simple: someone who
attacks someone else is over the line. The latest entry is for a guy who
calls himself "goober." It was easy for me to find three posts by
goober; each was a put-down of someone else: plonk. Killing all posts
from gmail has improved the S-N ratio wholesale.
It is definitely worth it to me to live without the few useful posts
from those whose behavior is primarily destructive.
What's important to me is to make my presence here useful to me. Having
to plow through the sheer quantity of posts by attackers, malefactors,
and squabblers in general, would make this forum intolerable to endure:
a sheer waste of time.
Bear is always on the edge. He contributes a lot; even if I disagree
with some of his choices, he comes up with some good contributions. But
he also is a major squabbler, initiating attacks that make him a major
contender.
When I look over my killfile log, I'm encouraged to see, from the
limited info presented, that this has been a good move. I've learned a
great deal from exploring freeware, and I'm grateful to the committed
few in this community. Without my killfile, I would not be able to
endure this place. Perhaps that's what it takes.
Salut!
Richard
Bear Bottoms
news:75uvjsF...@mid.individual.net:
This is a result of the negative atmosphere the PWH cultists created in
this group. It all stemmed from that.
--
Bear Bottoms-Freeware Researcher Extraordinaire
Freeware website: http://bearware.info
Bear Bottoms
news:OpudnYs4UfHQxmfU...@posted.sonicnet:
> Bear is always on the edge. He contributes a lot; even if I disagree
> with some of his choices, he comes up with some good contributions. But
> he also is a major squabbler, initiating attacks that make him a major
> contender.
>
This is simply not true. Mine is a strong defense. Should the 'regulars'
i.e. PWH cult stop their nonsense, I would stop mine. Of course you know
this.
Richard Steinfeld
> Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUT...@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote in
> news:OpudnYs4UfHQxmfU...@posted.sonicnet:
>
>> Bear is always on the edge. He contributes a lot; even if I disagree
>> with some of his choices, he comes up with some good contributions. But
>> he also is a major squabbler, initiating attacks that make him a major
>> contender.
>>
>
> This is simply not true. Mine is a strong defense. Should the 'regulars'
> i.e. PWH cult stop their nonsense, I would stop mine. Of course you know
> this.
>
tit for tat, just prolonging the struggle. Bear: you're locked in a
death grip with the perps, almost becoming one in the process yourself.
They and you have taken over the NG, and I really don't want to be in on
your gladiator match.
The perps won't stop, therefore you won't stop either.
And it's quite clear when you, Bear, are the instigator when you begin
an attack thread yourself. For example, just today or yesterday, you
attacked Susan. I don't care who is right or who is wrong. I don't give
a damn who started it, Bear.
Since the others are truly pathological, I've hoped that at least you
would be more mature and capable of recognizing what's been happening.
Like many others here, I just want it to stop. You are the major troll
feeder on this NG, and you've resolutely refused to stop. I've tried to
reason with you about this in the past, to no avail.
I've got just about all the attackers on the other side in the killfile.
But I'm really fed up with clicking on your threads, only to find your
own flames leading the fray.
Won't you please see reason?
Richard
Nicetameetya
<rgsteinBUT...@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> told us in complete
confidence:
>Like many others here, I just want it to stop. You are the major troll
>feeder on this NG, and you've resolutely refused to stop. I've tried to
>reason with you about this in the past, to no avail.
>
>I've got just about all the attackers on the other side in the killfile.
>But I'm really fed up with clicking on your threads, only to find your
>own flames leading the fray.
>
>Won't you please see reason?
Well reasoned and well said. Hopefully the message will get through.
elaich
@mid.individual.net:
> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
>
>
You know, you used to have my respect in here, before you started this
topic. It's so 'let's get a flaming topic started.' A lot of us killfiled
the offenders years ago.
Drafted19...@neoconslackreason.com
<bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:
>Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUT...@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote in
>news:OpudnYs4UfHQxmfU...@posted.sonicnet:
>
>> Bear is always on the edge. He contributes a lot; even if I disagree
>> with some of his choices, he comes up with some good contributions. But
>> he also is a major squabbler, initiating attacks that make him a major
>> contender.
>>
>
>This is simply not true. Mine is a strong defense. Should the 'regulars'
>i.e. PWH cult stop their nonsense, I would stop mine. Of course you know
>this.
Please form your won NG for your CULT..
Do the world a favor..
Lew
Drafted19...@neoconslackreason.com
Stop listening to the voices BareBrain.
You are sick sick sick.
When will you form your NG for your Cult of Mefollow , BlubberingBird,
and the 2 or 3 others you have fooled?
hummingbird
<5iskv4lufrf1ohntn...@4ax.com>:
All my posts in ACF are about freeware or are made to defend myself.
I have never started a flame or a troll.
--
·See me munching breakfast http://aracari-munching.notlong.com
·ACF <zero tolerance> policy: http://zero-tolerance.notlong.com
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
John Stubbings
the k00k here is glaringly obvious
--
You gotta fight, for your right, to party...
The best of the best in Freeware
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
Registered Linux User #485718
Nicetameetya
<hummingb�r...@127.0.0.1> told us in complete confidence:
>'Mike Easter' wrote thus:
>
>>Jack Rollins wrote:
>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
>>>> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
>>>
>>> Obviously, they won't become invisible to those who go out of their way
>>> to read their posts, and then respond to their "childish spats".
>
>
>>People who respond to childish spats and trollish behavior also have a
>>tendency to become invisible.
>
>Mike,
>Anyone who becomes a target of the endless abuse, malicious lies
>and forgeries by ACF's handful of resident psychopathic k00ks, has
>a right to respond whenever they see fit to bitch-slap the perps.
>
>That's what you've seen in the past 18 hours or so.
>Please avoid the trap of blaming the victims.
Something I've noticed in the newsgroups where a handful of people
promote and maintain ongoing flamewars is that the worst offenders
always excuse their self-indulgent behaviour by claiming that *they*
are the victims and are just defending themselves from the people they
continually attack.
It's like someone slapping you in the face and then claiming they're
the victim when you slap them back.
I also notice that they'll keep on attacking even if they're ignored
and no one bothers to slap them back ... as if they thrive on the
flamewars and just have to keep starting them over and over again, ad
nauseam.
Oh well ... time to crank up my killfile again. Only the so-called
"victims" keep nym-shifting, so it becomes a full time job.
Mike Dee
> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon
> become invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
Why has it taken so long for you to say such a thing?
... my KFs have been working just fine in here for years for those
reasons.
--
dee
L'homme est, je vous l'avoue, un m�chant animal. Ib. 5
Ron May
<gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
> Oh well ... time to crank up my killfile again. Only the so-called
> "victims" keep nym-shifting, so it becomes a full time job.
Those who engage in sock puppetry automatically forfeit any claim to
"victimhood" by default. They create a spam-like annoyance for those
who would rather not be bothered by their online garbage. It's also a
telltale sign that their credibility under their primary nym has been
permanently destroyed by their earlier antics.
<OT>
One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
</OT>
--
Ron M. (I filter Googlespam)
Known sock puppets and forged messages are deleted unread.
alt.comp.freeware information pages:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Index.php
Saxman
> Obviously, they won't become invisible to those who go out of their way
> to read their posts, and then respond to their "childish spats".
We don't read the posts, just the headers is enough.
Saxman
> Those who engage in childish spats around here are going to soon become
> invisible to a larger and larger number of acf regulars.
>
>
Bear Bottoms
OK
Chuck Smythe
But you obviously read the one from Jack Rollins.
Franklin
> 'Nicetameetya' wrote thus:
> sequence* that prompted Mike's complaint, and it is entirely
> obvious that this *spat* was started by John Stubbings, as many
> of them are, because he thinks that he can make nasty comments
> about people with impunity. Occasionally, when he gets called, he
> throws a tanty. On many other occasions, they're started by his
> soulmate: Franklin (him of endless personas),
Hummingbird, you may find it easier to appreciate your situation in ACF
if you were not to ascribe almost all fake postings to me. (I have to
ignore your propaganda sheet's less than credible claim that any single
change of spelling of my dummy FROM address represents a new identity
of mine.)
Even if I make allowance for your preference to deliberately make wild
exaggerations for propaganda purposes (the "Big Lie" approach), you
have nevertheless frequently made the error of connecting me other
people or sockpuppets and their posts and that seems to have confused
you endlessly.
Maybe it isn't a very palatable notion that several people in ACF
dislike you. Perhaps you need to re-interpret what occurs to you in ACF
as the work of just one very, very bad person. And you believe that
person is me. Well, I know what I post and what I don't so when you
start making your accusations about me I find what you say is quite
bizarre.
It seems your chosen method of retaliation to these imagined offenses
is to make extensive use of sock puppets but in the end that isn't
going to endear you to anyone. You were using sockpuppets when you
first came to ACF and belatedly people realized exactly how many you
were responsible for. It seems to me the overall growth in sockpuppets
(as far as anyone can estimate these things) for one side of the
argument or the other side has grown massively ever since you first
appeared with your sockpuppets some years ago.
> who tries to hide
> his own use of forgeries and socks by distraction, to allege that
> others do it, ie: a deliberate disinformation campaign.
>
> ** Hell ...this thread itself has attracted yet another forged
> post in MY posting name!!!!!!!!!!! Over the past 2 weeks he has
> posted ~20 of them. Over the past 6-7 months about 300! **
> Many are written to appear as though it is me!!! ie: ID theft.
>
> And all that excludes the threads started or hijacked by John
> Stubbings/Franklin & Co intended to directly attack BB, Me or
> MH or any other person in their current hate frame.
>
> That's my previous point, expanded.
>
>>It's like someone slapping you in the face and then claiming
>>they're the victim when you slap them back.
>>
>>I also notice that they'll keep on attacking even if they're
>>ignored and no one bothers to slap them back ... as if they thrive
>>on the flamewars and just have to keep starting them over and over
>>again, ad nauseam.
>
> Absolutely true. I have been the target of attack by the
> aforementioned stalkers for 2.5 years and have tried many tactics
> to get rid of them. Hell, they have even followed me to another
> newsgroup where one of them posts in my ACF posting name to
> attack me and several other locals who I debate with, and then he
> x-posts back to ACF, so posts appear on ACF in my posting name!
>
> We are dealing with a small number of very sick people.
> One is almost certainly a deranged psychopath.
>
Hummingbird, I suspect many regular posters in ACF find your objective
to ban any discussion of Pricelessware in ACF to be highly
objectionable. I do.
If you don't like the discussions about PLW then don't read them. It's
that simple.
You and Mr Bottoms went berserk as part of your attempt to prevent ACF
functioning. Your intended price for permitting ACF to function was
that there would be no discussion of Pricelessware. As we know, you
failed and PLW continues to be discussed. However many people,
including myself, found your intentions and the methods you & Bottoms
used to be extremely objectionable.
What are you going to do next? Are you going to use the same hostile
approach to purging "UK.politics.misc" of its many off-topic
discussions? How about preventing sysops of paid for news servers from
posting to "alt.free.newsservers" which is what happens now?
Exactly is so special about ACF and PLW that you have to target it?
In the end don't be surprised when you meet opposition because it has
been very well deserved.
Franklin
<news:gteun...@aracari.127.0.0.1>:
> 'Ron May' wrote thus:
>
>>On Fri, 01 May 2009 22:24:24 +1200, Nicetameetya
>><gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh well ... time to crank up my killfile again. Only the so-called
>>> "victims" keep nym-shifting, so it becomes a full time job.
>>
>>Those who engage in sock puppetry automatically forfeit any claim to
>>"victimhood" by default.
>
> Nonsense. Nevertheless, sockpuppetry is an allegation that you
> make with incessant regularity against anybody who disagrees with
> you Ron May, but for which you NEVER produce a shred of credible
> evidence, just crackpot conspiracy theories dressed up as fact. It
> is no wonder that you were included in the ACF <zero_tolerance>
> policy, extract follows:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> "The standard of posting on ACF has deteriorated a lot in the
> past 12-18 months as the Pricelessware cult, and those who claim
> to be its supporters, lose ground and resort to ever more
> desperate smears against those who they perceive are a threat to
> their control and dominance of the newsgroup. These people are
> mostly pathological liars and cowards and they know who they are
> without listing all their names, but a few of the worst are
> Franklin, John Stubbings, Ron May, iNcReDuLoUs and �Q�, all who
> seek out every opportunity to post lies and slime about others."
> ------------------------------------------------------
That's the old version, the new version you announced said this:
-------------------------------------------------------
The standard of posting on ACF has deteriorated a lot in the past 24-36
months as Bear Bottoms and Hummingbird and those who pretend to be
their supporters, lose ground and resort to ever more desperate
measures against peopl who are prepared to deal harshly with them
because they are a thre at to the newsgroup. HB and BB are pathological
liars and cowards and will be countered by Franklin, John Stubbings,
Ron May, iNcReDuLoUs and 'Q', all who seek out every opportunity to
deal with these destructive elements in their midst. BB and HB's slime
is equal to the Goebbels BIG LIE: - repeat a lie often enough and
people will believe it.
--------------------------------------------------------
extracted from:
http://acfZeroTolerance.notlong.com OR http://bayimg.com/JAPmIaabE
--
"The Most Dangerous Man on the Internet"
http://franklin-revealed.notlong.com
Hummingbird's research discovered that's not my photo.
Says I've "stolen the identity of somebody called Brad Pitt".
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> Mike Easter
*PLONK*
Prefer Lent.
--
My hero!! http://tr.im/2ghc
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> Obviously
*PLONK*
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> I can't help
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> Mike, I'm not sure what you mean by "invisible." My killfile for this NG
> is huge.
Add me, Jew.
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> But
Ron
> 'Ron May' wrote thus:
>
>> On Fri, 01 May 2009 22:24:24 +1200, Nicetameetya
>> <gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh well ... time to crank up my killfile again. Only the so-called
>>> "victims" keep nym-shifting, so it becomes a full time job.
>> Those who engage in sock puppetry automatically forfeit any claim to
>> "victimhood" by default.
>
> make with incessant regularity against anybody who disagrees with
> you Ron May, but for which you NEVER produce a shred of credible
> evidence, just crackpot conspiracy theories dressed up as fact. It
> is no wonder that you were included in the ACF <zero_tolerance>
> policy, extract follows:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> "The standard of posting on ACF has deteriorated a lot in the
> past 12-18 months as the Pricelessware cult, and those who claim
> to be its supporters, lose ground and resort to ever more
> desperate smears against those who they perceive are a threat to
> their control and dominance of the newsgroup. These people are
> mostly pathological liars and cowards and they know who they are
> without listing all their names, but a few of the worst are
> Franklin, John Stubbings, Ron May, iNcReDuLoUs and �Q�, all who
> seek out every opportunity to post lies and slime about others."
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
classify it as "ACF"? Istr you had to change the URL in mid-April for
some reason, but don't remember it from any time before the 1st week of
April. Imho, the wording seems unnecessarily inflammatory. ymmv.
Just curious.
Ron
John Stubbings
How you waste your life...
Seth Garland
> On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>
>
> How you waste your life...
>
Just saying it doesn't make it so.
You have to provide concrete evidence for making that statement,
otherwise it's nothing more than your unwarranted opinion.
Franklin
<news:gtfafv...@aracari.127.0.0.1>:
> You are also responsible for starting a lot of new hate-threads.
> Here's a couple of your very latest offerings:
>
> 1.
>>Subject: [HB] Secret message for members of Project Hummingbird
>>From: agent Franklin <dev...@devnull.invalid>
>>MID: <Xns9BFAB4A...@127.0.0.1>
>
> 2.
>>Subject: The land of "Humming.Bottom.Here"
>>From: "franklin - reference 8" <refe...@devnull.invalid>
>>MID: <Xns9BFD69D...@127.0.0.1>
>
> NB: all started by you and in each case you use a different
> From: field, which you know is done to by-pass other peoples'
> killfiles.
Dumber and dumber. (((shakes head)))
Sherlock, have you noticed how the name "Franklin" is in both your
examples?
I have repeatedly suggested you killfile on the name "Franklin". It
beats me why you can't hear.
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>
>How you waste your life...
>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
>
> I rest my case.
> You are a forger, mass sockpuppeteer and a pathological liar.
FFS shut up you boring bastard
John Stubbings
v good
I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
Franklin
>
> and yet you know he lives in the US, I don't [live in the US].
>
You have said that I live (or have lived) in the US. You are wrong.
Now, you say "Thomas" lives in the US.
"Thomas" is a sockpuppet and he doesn't actually live anywhere.
"Thomas" is your sock and you can make him live wherever you like.
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 17:48:11 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>
>> In article <gtf7k5$10f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>>>
>>>How you waste your life...
>>>
>> Shocking ...
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
>
>v good
>I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
>
Here's some music while I tinker with it (the ad is at least short) ...
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyHYJvgNjk>
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
Don't publish it here, just send me an email, mind the munge...
Richard Steinfeld
> <OT>
> One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
> on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
> with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
> </OT>
>
about how you make this work. Thanks.
Richard
Richard Steinfeld
> Saxman wrote:
>> Jack Rollins wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously, they won't become invisible to those who go out of their way
>>> to read their posts, and then respond to their "childish spats".
>> We don't read the posts, just the headers is enough.
>
> But you obviously read the one from Jack Rollins.
>
Richard
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 18:16:18 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>
>> In article <gtfa23$k6f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 17:48:11 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <gtf7k5$10f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>How you waste your life...
>>>>>
>>>> Shocking ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
>>>
>>>v good
>>>I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
>>>
>> I'm trying to work out whether I have a hotmail account. Can't remember.
>> Here's some music while I tinker with it (the ad is at least short) ...
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyHYJvgNjk>
>
>Don't publish it here, just send me an email, mind the munge...
>
--
Roger Hunt
Drafted19...@neoconslackreason.com
<hummingb�r...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>One is almost certainly a deranged psychopath.
Now that is a very good self diagnosis Dr BlubberingBird.
Lew
Richard Steinfeld
>> Won't you please see reason?
>>
>> Richard
>>
> OK
>
Thanks, Bear.
They'll continue to goad you. They'll work very, very hard to try to
rile you into hitting back, which is exactly what they want. That's the
game of the malefactors. They live for your reactions: that's what they
get off on.
So, you'll have to ignore them. As you learn to take it in stride, your
psyche will become more peaceful. I think that the rest of us will be
supportive.
I suggest that you start your own killfile and just continue to add to
it. In fact, as is your wont, I'll bet that you'll come up with some
nifty way to handle this and will be all fired up to share it.
I'm just using an old version of Thunderbird. As I've mentioned earlier,
my killfile is huge. It tosses out an incredible amount of spam in this
NG every time I return. But the killfile does make it possible for me to
participate. At least in my experience, TB is pretty klutzy because it
won't allow me to delete messages after they get past the killfile. I'd
like something more robust, something that my brain can understand (I
haven't been able to figure out Xnews).
Unfortunately, newcomers become ensnared in the fray pretty early, and
the malefactors live for that, too. I've got no solution for that other
than for others to clue them in. But in the meantime, on the personal
level, killfiles can help make it work, at least in the sense that they
make our NG sane enough to be similar to other forums.
See how it goes.
Richard
John Stubbings
incoming
Kabuki Armadillo
From: "Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:36 PM
Subject: Childish spats
I've ceased to contribute to this group anymore, mostly because I now only
come here once a week or less, and take a quick gander at subject lines. If
I see too many idiot headlines -- you know the ones I mean -- I'm gone
within seconds. I won't waste time to separate the wheat from the chaff, or
compose a message with my latest find.
All the enthusiastic regulars that were here when I first came here years
ago (5+) have long since gone to be replaced by the pathetic losers that
reside here day after day dribbling unfunny rants and insults hour after
hour.
Seriously, who are you people? How old are you? How empty are your lives
that this newsgroup is the highlight of your day because you've decided that
it's better to be despised than ignored?
Your life is ending. We all have a terminal disease. There will come a day
when your heart will beat its last ten beats -- then stop. Visualize it
deeply. Count it off in your head. Ten beats. Then it's over. And no doctor
can tell you when this day will happen. Ten years from now? Next month?
Tomorrow? Later today?
Is this really how you want to waste your remaining time?
Go outside in the sun and read a book, go to a coffee shop and strike up a
conversation with a stranger, join a volunteer group that requires physical
particpation, challenge yourself to run a marathon or even just a 10K run,
take a bike ride to a park and feed the ducks, walk the breakwater, go
camping/ bowling / golfing with a friend, organize an anniversary party, be
an ambassador and offer to take pictures of tourists, stick some coins in
the parking meter for a perfect stranger... join the human race. The race
will end for you soon enough so stop wasting what time you have left.
FWIW
M
Bear Bottoms
news:Yv2dnZL8keQAqGbU...@posted.sonicnet:
Most has been said and to continue with it is rather boring. I've used
killfiles, but keep deleting them. I only have two in my killfile right
now. I find it is just as easy to ignore, and very easy to pick out what
I want to read.
--
Bear Bottoms-Freeware Researcher Extraordinaire
Freeware website: http://bearware.info
John Stubbings
Are there any girls out there with a bit of Irish in them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FgnFVm5k0
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 18:41:38 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>> In article <gtfb0f$kbh$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 18:16:18 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>> In article <gtfa23$k6f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 17:48:11 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <gtf7k5$10f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How you waste your life...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shocking ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
>>>>>
>>>>>v good
>>>>>I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
>>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to work out whether I have a hotmail account. Can't remember.
>>>> Here's some music while I tinker with it (the ad is at least short) ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyHYJvgNjk>
>>>
>>>Don't publish it here, just send me an email, mind the munge...
>>>
>> I sent a missive from my hotmail account. Goodness knows if it'll work.
>
>incoming
Boing! Thanks for that.
(I was thinking of marking the subject line "[OT]", but is there any
point?)
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEdH1tNP51Q>
--
Roger Hunt
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 18:16:18 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>> In article <gtfa23$k6f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 17:48:11 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>> In article <gtf7k5$10f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>How you waste your life...
>>>>>
>>>> Shocking ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
>>>
>>>v good
>>>I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
>>>
>> I'm trying to work out whether I have a hotmail account. Can't remember.
>> Here's some music while I tinker with it (the ad is at least short) ...
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyHYJvgNjk>
>
>Are there any girls out there with a bit of Irish in them?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FgnFVm5k0
>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kkp109Vs3E>
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
Last time this lot got posted, it went right over Ari and Franklin's
head...
Seem to remember Craig was a fan.
Anyways this girl leaves me speechless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib0fUk2SOuA
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 19:36:25 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>> In article <gtfd10$cg8$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How you waste your life...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shocking ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>v good
>>>>>>>I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to work out whether I have a hotmail account. Can't remember.
>>>>>> Here's some music while I tinker with it (the ad is at least short) ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyHYJvgNjk>
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't publish it here, just send me an email, mind the munge...
>>>>>
>>>> I sent a missive from my hotmail account. Goodness knows if it'll work.
>>>
>>>incoming
>>
>> Boing! Thanks for that.
>> (I was thinking of marking the subject line "[OT]", but is there any
>> point?)
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEdH1tNP51Q>
>
>Last time this lot got posted, it went right over Ari and Franklin's
>head...
>
>Seem to remember Craig was a fan.
>
>Anyways this girl leaves me speechless
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib0fUk2SOuA
>
--
Roger Hunt
Craig
To the point that I shell out shekels for those penguins...
>
> Anyways this girl leaves me speechless
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib0fUk2SOuA
Really? She leaves me apoplectic. And, yet, I. keep. coming. back.
for. more. But, honestly, is there any better than the Righteous Babe?
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjizt4Ixt6E>
-Craig
John Stubbings
We've been and done Joplin...
Anyways I hate competitions, it's all good, there's Sheryl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA3ejdkS_v0
John Stubbings
Ron
today and those vids lightened my mood considerably.
Must be some way to sic Eminem on that lot. Enter an amount on the wrong
line and they shake their boney fingers at ya...
Ron
John Stubbings
Craig
Hey!
Don't blame me. I play 3rd (& distant) fiddle to the Roger & Stubbings
Show. IRS? Lesseee... Ah. Here's the antidote & have a good weekend:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6vl49r67I>
-Craig
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 20:03:40 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <gtf7k5$10f$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:27 +0100, [Goebbels] hummingbird wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How you waste your life...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shocking ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUL6DHBpo-4>
>>>>>
>>>>>v good
>>>>>I want to send you a link, but not here. Can I send you an email?
>>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to work out whether I have a hotmail account. Can't remember.
>>>> Here's some music while I tinker with it (the ad is at least short) ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyHYJvgNjk>
>>>
>>>Are there any girls out there with a bit of Irish in them?
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FgnFVm5k0
>>>
>> That's good.
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kkp109Vs3E>
>
>In a kinda gangster rap theme
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFYQQPAOz7Y&feature=related
>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZM0EGBdHOw>
--
Roger Hunt
»Q«
Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUT...@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote:
> But Sonny Rollins was a reael Sax Man.
And still is.
--
»Q«
Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
John Stubbings
I enjoyed it... kinda reminded of this... I have a strange mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_fx1WshCA&feature=related
Roger Hunt
<netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> writes
--
Roger Hunt
»Q«
hummingbird <hummingbír...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> 'Ron May' wrote thus:
>
> >On Fri, 01 May 2009 22:24:24 +1200, Nicetameetya
> ><gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh well ... time to crank up my killfile again. Only the so-called
> >> "victims" keep nym-shifting, so it becomes a full time job.
> >
> >Those who engage in sock puppetry automatically forfeit any claim to
> >"victimhood" by default.
>
> Nonsense. Nevertheless, sockpuppetry is an allegation that you
> make with incessant regularity against anybody who disagrees with
> you Ron May, but for which you NEVER produce a shred of credible
> evidence, just crackpot conspiracy theories dressed up as fact.
There's at least a shred of evidence in your admission that you use
sockpuppets. I guess you could dispute the credibility of your
admission, but that would seem more silly even than your claim that
you're a "victim" "defending" itself.
<http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=124121190300>
"I have openly admitted to using socks once or twice," you said.
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:22 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>> In article <gtfl5q$et4$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFYQQPAOz7Y&feature=related
>>>
>> Kinda nutty ...
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZM0EGBdHOw>
>
>I enjoyed it... kinda reminded of this... I have a strange mind
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_fx1WshCA&feature=related
>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8__EwAT8VM>
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
top stuff
here's some good head banging and generally going fecking crazy ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQ&NR=1
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 22:33:11 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>> In article <gtfod0$4p1$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:22 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>> In article <gtfl5q$et4$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>>>
>>>>>In a kinda gangster rap theme
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFYQQPAOz7Y&feature=related
>>>>>
>>>> Kinda nutty ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZM0EGBdHOw>
>>>
>>>I enjoyed it... kinda reminded of this... I have a strange mind
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_fx1WshCA&feature=related
>>>
>> Dig this Baby ...
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8__EwAT8VM>
>
>top stuff
>
>here's some good head banging and generally going fecking crazy ...
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQ&NR=1
>
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
vince
> Ron May wrote:
>> <OT>
>> One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
>> on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
>> with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
>> </OT>
>>
> I'm a bit dense about this. Could you please give me a short explanation
> about how you make this work. Thanks.
>
> Richard
You don't say if you're using Agent already. Are you?
Just now you said you use a lot of filters in TBird. Why don't you
upgrade to a newer version? Don't bother moving to Agent.
You are on TBird v1.5.0.14. TBird V2 has been out a long time. V3 will
be here soon.
I stick with what I know.
Ron May
wrote:
> <OT>
> One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
> on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
> with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
> </OT>
The troll reads my posts. Pick part of its sig for "Find Global"
instead. I'll let the smelly sock guess which part of the sig I'm
keying on, <VBG>
--
Ron M. (I filter Googlespam)
Known sock puppets and forged messages are deleted unread.
alt.comp.freeware information pages:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Index.php
Xerxes Homanu
> On Fri, 01 May 2009 06:56:25 -0500, Ron May <may...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> <OT>
>> One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
>> on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
>> with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
>> </OT>
>
> The troll reads my posts. Pick part of its sig for "Find Global"
> instead. I'll let the smelly sock guess which part of the sig I'm
> keying on, <VBG>
>
Good. I like playing games with losers.
Are you ready?
Ron May
<rgsteinBUT...@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote:
> Ron May wrote:
> > <OT>
> > One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
> > on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
> > with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
> > </OT>
> >
> I'm a bit dense about this. Could you please give me a short explanation
> about how you make this work. Thanks.
>
> Richard
Agent is payware, but it has a feature called "Find Global":
Screenshot: http://acfron.googlepages.com/FindGlobal.jpg
(1) Ctrl+G or clicking the "Find Global" brings up the window in the
screenshot.
(2) Paste any text string from the header (say, "X-Enigmail-Version:
0.95.7" without quotes) or from the body of the message (in this case
"PART OF TROLL'S SIG").
(3) Click the "Find All In Current Folder" button. The "Results"
window shows all posts with the common text element.
(4) Click "View All" Button and close "Find Global"
(5) You're looking at a window with all matching messages. Select all
followed by delete flushes the troll's hard work down the crapper.
Back when this group was getting sporged on a regular basis, I got
real good at the technique. Takes only a few seconds now to destroy
all of a smelly sock's hard work. More important, I get to snicker
behind its back when it insists it can't be killfiled.
Trolls who use sock puppets aren't exactly the world's brightest
critters.
Nicetameetya
<x...@surgh.com> told us in complete confidence:
PLONK ...
Ron - How about just killfiling this pathetic coward in Agent the
usual way? Or is it so desperate to be noticed that it will find
another sock to hide behind?
--
- Killfiles are made for just this kind of poster.
- And what kind of poster is that?
- Oh ... you know. One of those ...
- Right! One of those ... what? An insignificant jerk? A crossposting cretin?
A pathetic wimp who craves attention? A coward? WHAT?
- Take your pick.
Edward Chandler
> [Default] On Fri, 01 May 2009 20:16:41 -0400, Xerxes Homanu
> <x...@surgh.com> told us in complete confidence:
>
>> Ron May wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 May 2009 06:56:25 -0500, Ron May <may...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <OT>
>>>> One good thing for Agent users like you and me is that "Find Global"
>>>> on any header segment makes short work of even those who nym-shift
>>>> with each message as in "X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7".
>>>> </OT>
>>> The troll reads my posts. Pick part of its sig for "Find Global"
>>> instead. I'll let the smelly sock guess which part of the sig I'm
>>> keying on, <VBG>
>>>
>> Good. I like playing games with losers.
>>
>> Are you ready?
>
> PLONK ...
>
> Ron - How about just killfiling this pathetic coward in Agent the
> usual way? Or is it so desperate to be noticed that it will find
> another sock to hide behind?
>
I've told you before how you can avoid reading any of my posts.
Here, I'll tell you how again:
1. Don't read any post, unless you're familiar with the sender,
responding to Franklin J. Camper (alias "Ari", etc.)
2. Don't read any post, unless you're familiar with the sender,
responding to Franklin.
3. Don't read any post, unless you're familiar with the sender,
responding to John Stubbings.
4. Don't read any post, unless you're familiar with the sender,
responding to a direct (or indirect) reference to me.
It's that simple. Do you think you can handle it?
Nicetameetya
<edcha...@bluesock.org> told us in complete confidence:
>Nicetameetya wrote:
>> Or is it so desperate to be noticed that it will find
>> another sock to hide behind?
>
>I've told you before how you can avoid reading any of my posts.
You've also answered my question ...
--
"The only difference between a troll and an asshole is
that an asshole knows when it's full of shit."
Paulo Friedman
> [Default] On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:39:29 -0400, Edward Chandler
> <edcha...@bluesock.org> told us in complete confidence:
>
>> Nicetameetya wrote:
>
>>> Or is it so desperate to be noticed that it will find
>>> another sock to hide behind?
>> I've told you before how you can avoid reading any of my posts.
>
> You've also answered my question
You will see only what you wish to see.
But you can't blame me because you want to give me attention.
I do not want you to read any of my posts.
I hope you never do read any of my posts.
I've even told you how you can avoid reading any of my posts.
But you still insist on saying that all I want is your attention.
There's something very wrong with you.
Nicetameetya
<pau...@breck.com> once again proved:
--
"The sweetest song to the jackass ear
is the song that the jackass sings." - Old saying
Ron May
<gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
> Ron - How about just killfiling this pathetic coward in Agent the
> usual way? Or is it so desperate to be noticed that it will find
> another sock to hide behind?
Well, Im already conTROLLing it. I forced it to drop its sig. It
can't use it anymore. What it doesn't know is that there are elements
that can be taken in combination to filter its spew. <VBG> We know
this critter very well indeed. It could killfile my posts very
easily, as can anyone else, but it won't. It's aftaid of missing
something, and because I know it's reading this, I'll bring back an
old sig I used to get under its skin before when talking about it
previously.
--
Ron M.
(I could have been the sporger's daddy, but I didn't have
change for a dollar to meet his momma's two-bit asking price.)
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> Good.
*PLONK*
--
My hero!! http://tr.im/2ghc
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> I've told you
Brian "Goober" Gwaltney
> You will see only
Nicetameetya
<may...@hotmail.com> told us in complete confidence:
>On Sat, 02 May 2009 13:17:08 +1200, Nicetameetya
><gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
>
>> Ron - How about just killfiling this pathetic coward in Agent the
>> usual way? Or is it so desperate to be noticed that it will find
>> another sock to hide behind?
>
>Well, Im already conTROLLing it. I forced it to drop its sig. It
>can't use it anymore. What it doesn't know is that there are elements
>that can be taken in combination to filter its spew. <VBG> We know
>this critter very well indeed. It could killfile my posts very
>easily, as can anyone else, but it won't. It's aftaid of missing
>something, and because I know it's reading this, I'll bring back an
>old sig I used to get under its skin before when talking about it
>previously.
If possible could you let me know how to configure Nfilter to do this?
I looked at the headers in Agent and the only constant I see besides
Giganews is the version of Firefox and windows the troll uses. TIA
dropzone09 at gmail.com
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 23:07:47 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>> In article <gtfr88$t8g$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 22:33:11 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>> In article <gtfod0$4p1$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>On Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:22 +0100, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <gtfl5q$et4$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In a kinda gangster rap theme
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFYQQPAOz7Y&feature=related
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kinda nutty ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZM0EGBdHOw>
>>>>>
>>>>>I enjoyed it... kinda reminded of this... I have a strange mind
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_fx1WshCA&feature=related
>>>>>
>>>> Dig this Baby ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8__EwAT8VM>
>>>
>>>top stuff
>>>
>>>here's some good head banging and generally going fecking crazy ...
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQ&NR=1
>>>
>> Strewth!
>
>Chill...
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unnh0T2Ftro&feature=related
>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xxbIOtkQg>
--
Roger Hunt
Ron May
<gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
> If possible could you let me know how to configure Nfilter to do this?
> I looked at the headers in Agent and the only constant I see besides
> Giganews is the version of Firefox and windows the troll uses. TIA
>
> dropzone09 at gmail.
You've got mail. <g>
Nicetameetya
<may...@hotmail.com> told us in complete confidence:
>On Sat, 02 May 2009 18:43:14 +1200, Nicetameetya
><gd...@invalid.invalid.not> wrote:
>
>> If possible could you let me know how to configure Nfilter to do this?
>> I looked at the headers in Agent and the only constant I see besides
>> Giganews is the version of Firefox and windows the troll uses. TIA
>>
>> dropzone09 at gmail.
>
>You've got mail. <g>
Thanks, Ron. Got it and then some. Guess you could say: The bell doth
toll for him that trolls.
Me.Here
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> Won't you please see reason?
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>> OK
>>
>
> Thanks, Bear.
>
> They'll continue to goad you. They'll work very, very hard to try to
> rile you into hitting back, which is exactly what they want. That's the
> game of the malefactors. They live for your reactions: that's what they
> get off on.
>
> So, you'll have to ignore them. As you learn to take it in stride, your
> psyche will become more peaceful. I think that the rest of us will be
> supportive.
>
> I suggest that you start your own killfile and just continue to add to
> it. In fact, as is your wont, I'll bet that you'll come up with some
> nifty way to handle this and will be all fired up to share it.
>
> I'm just using an old version of Thunderbird. As I've mentioned earlier,
> my killfile is huge. It tosses out an incredible amount of spam in this
> NG every time I return. But the killfile does make it possible for me to
> participate. At least in my experience, TB is pretty klutzy because it
> won't allow me to delete messages after they get past the killfile. I'd
> like something more robust, something that my brain can understand (I
> haven't been able to figure out Xnews).
>
> Unfortunately, newcomers become ensnared in the fray pretty early, and
> the malefactors live for that, too. I've got no solution for that other
> than for others to clue them in. But in the meantime, on the personal
> level, killfiles can help make it work, at least in the sense that they
> make our NG sane enough to be similar to other forums.
>
> See how it goes.
>
> Richard
Good post. It is important people like us support HB and BB to oppose
the ACF clique.
See the TB filter is my sig. Your TB is too old.
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>
> Good post. It is important people like us support HB and BB to oppose
> the ACF clique.
>
Groan!
That's exactly what I don't want. To hell with _all_ the opposition
around here. Factionalism sucks. I've already seen it bring down an
entire cooperative in these parts: a chain of more than 12 cooperative
supermarkets, sporting goods, savings bank, car repair, natural foods
store: all destroyed due to factionalism.
If people want to do ACF, let 'em do it. I haven't been aware of them
being vengy. Support HB? You're joking, right?
> See the TB filter is my sig.
Your datafile material is defunct.
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Richard
John Stubbings
> to oppose the ACF clique
No longer a cult? shame
Opposed by who? "the clique of delusional cretins"?
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Sat, 02 May 2009 17:43:58 +0100, Me.Here wrote:
>
>> to oppose the ACF clique
>
>No longer a cult? shame
>
>Opposed by who? "the clique of delusional cretins"?
>
The Clique of Delusional Simpletons produces an acronym, just about,
of CLODS - reflecting, I think, the intellectual outlook of the members.
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
Way ahead of it's time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGiivRAo84&feature=related
Not the best sound, but hey great to watch
John Stubbings
Excellent. Shall we put it to a vote...
Only kidding... No, No, STOP...
Roger Hunt
Who needs drummers ...
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfhsLuOEWI>
--
Roger Hunt