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Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 23, 2004, 1:44:24 PM11/23/04
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I'm planning to start a voting thread on Saturday with the images
already suggested.

So to all people in acf with artistic "bones" - hurry up and start
creating.... :-)

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As of today I have registered images suggested by SOS, Clive Savage,
CHarneyCHRIS, Mark Carson and Crispy Sea.
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The Freeware Logo: What is this about?
Just trying to get the acf group to agree on a freeware symbol or logo.
My intention was that it could be used on freeware sites and in freeware
programs. A "universally" recognizable logo or symbol for freeware. We
could use this logo in programs, games and in websites.
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Regards from Vegard

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Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway

My sites:
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Chinese Checkers: http://home.no.net/vkp/
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Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/
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My fishy site (fishing games): http://home.no/vkp32/
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Nov 24, 2004, 4:04:31 AM11/24/04
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Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 24, 2004, 7:24:59 AM11/24/04
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Nice one!
But do you have permission to use the original image and change it?

Regards from Vegard

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Vegard Krog Petersen, Norway

My sites:
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Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/index.html
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Garrett

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Nov 24, 2004, 10:07:59 AM11/24/04
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Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>
> I'm planning to start a voting thread on Saturday with the images
> already suggested.
>
> So to all people in acf with artistic "bones" - hurry up and start
> creating.... :-)

I remember early on in this conversation someone mentioned using the $
sign. As noted though, that no all nations recognize this. I agree
that it shouldn't be used, but for different reasons.

But in a similar idea, what if a coin was used? Doesn't matter what
country the coin is from because I think anyone would recognize a coin
from any country as being just that, a coin. So a coin with the
internationally recognized red circled X over the coin might be a nice
idea (keyword being "might") :-)

-Garrett

Dewey Edwards

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Nov 24, 2004, 10:41:52 AM11/24/04
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:07:59 -0800, Garrett <spam...@night.tim>
wrote:

>I remember early on in this conversation someone mentioned using the $
>sign. As noted though, that no all nations recognize this. I agree
>that it shouldn't be used, but for different reasons.
>
>But in a similar idea, what if a coin was used? Doesn't matter what
>country the coin is from because I think anyone would recognize a coin
>from any country as being just that, a coin. So a coin with the
>internationally recognized red circled X over the coin might be a nice
>idea (keyword being "might") :-)

Sounds like something briefly done several years ago.

A floppy disc covered with a few non-descript coins and then a red
circle with a slash to denote freeware.

Been a while, I can't remember if it was a logo proposed for freeware
or pricelessware. But I do remember it.

RoS

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Nov 24, 2004, 11:06:24 AM11/24/04
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freeware logo:

http://home.tiscali.nl/~ti118953/logo/free.png

groet ... ronald.

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Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 24, 2004, 1:01:56 PM11/24/04
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Thanks to Ronald Sandee for this one. Will be added to the voting page /
thread.

Regards from vegard

Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 24, 2004, 12:52:50 PM11/24/04
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Garrett wrote:
> So a coin with the
> internationally recognized red circled X over the coin might be a nice
> idea (keyword being "might") :-)
>
> -Garrett

Something like that have been suggested, and one image proposed.
Will be available for you (and others) to vote for when I start the vote
thread.

:-)

Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 24, 2004, 3:12:13 PM11/24/04
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Searching, searching...

Could it be these threads?:
2000/03/12 - "We need a logo" - http://tinyurl.com/5yz8m
2000/03/12 - "Logo submissions so far" - http://tinyurl.com/6gty2
2000/03/21 - "Should we vote now on logo?! - http://tinyurl.com/6anuh
2000/03/12 - "Our logo" - http://tinyurl.com/4muka

Scanning very quickly and I come up with this:

1. Initiated by John Corliss as an image for the acf and ended up on
his F.A.Q site
2. Submissions were collected by 'granpaw', but a decent vote contest
never happened
3. A image by 'La Bete' "won"... (??)
nomoneyfloppy.gif


*PING* 'oldtimers' : granpaw, John C, POKO, Boomer, Aguy
Show us the images, please !!! :-)

Anybody has the zipped copy of J.C. closed F.A.Q. ??

And this sounds very interesting:
> POKO:
> Have e-mailed John a winner - hope he uses it. Not Granpaw, but an
> illustration of how man has evolved into a freeware user.

RoSandee

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Nov 24, 2004, 4:56:03 PM11/24/04
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more .... http://home.tiscali.nl/~ti118953/logo/free.html


"RoS" <r...@home.nl> schreef in bericht
news:41a4b1fe$0$728$58c7...@news.kabelfoon.nl...

CPA

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Nov 25, 2004, 1:31:26 AM11/25/04
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:44:24 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen
<vegard_kro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm planning to start a voting thread on Saturday with the images
> already suggested.
>
> So to all people in acf with artistic "bones" - hurry up and start
> creating.... :-)

This might work?

http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/dosw31/pinbutsm.gif


Charles.Angelich

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omega

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:13:43 AM11/25/04
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Rod

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:28:52 AM11/25/04
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omega <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
news:0v4bq010esanhn3vq...@4ax.com:

Do you ever throw away anything ? :)
And to stay pure, what currency are those coins in that gif anyway ? :)
BTW, the most global currency I know is:
http://www.thegamesjournal.com/photos/MonopolyMoney.jpg

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Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:33:48 AM11/25/04
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Thanks, Omega!

I'm ashamed, as a Librarian I should have saved that FAQ for myself
before John C. removed it.... :-)

Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:34:31 AM11/25/04
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Rod wrote:
> BTW, the most global currency I know is:
> http://www.thegamesjournal.com/photos/MonopolyMoney.jpg

I'm not including that one in the contest... ;-)

Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:37:01 AM11/25/04
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RoSandee wrote:
> more .... http://home.tiscali.nl/~ti118953/logo/free.html

Great, even better! :-)
Back to FrontPage and update the voting page!

Regards from Vegard

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Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:46:56 AM11/25/04
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CPA wrote:
>
> This might work?
> http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/dosw31/pinbutsm.gif
> Charles.Angelich
>

Some kind of Microsoft bashing image?
You lost me there Chareles. What's the connection to freeware?

Regards from

omega

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Nov 25, 2004, 4:12:02 AM11/25/04
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Rod <re...@group.please>:
>
> omega <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> > Vegard Krog Petersen <vegard_kro...@hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Anybody has the zipped copy of J.C. closed F.A.Q. ??
> >
> > http://www.redshift.com/~omega/2004/var/jcorliss/ACFfaq.zip
> > http://www.redshift.com/~omega/2004/var/jcorliss/nomoneyfloppy.gif
>
> Do you ever throw away anything ? :)

I try all the time, and it's very stressful. There was a support group
on the internet I once found, some embarrassing name like "clutter-bunnies"
or some such, which I was going to join... But I'd saved such a big old
stack of their help documents, that it became too hard to dig through all
that to find their subscription address.

> And to stay pure, what currency are those coins in that gif anyway ? :)
> BTW, the most global currency I know is:
> http://www.thegamesjournal.com/photos/MonopolyMoney.jpg

That one I like! =)

--
Karen S.

omega

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Nov 25, 2004, 4:34:03 AM11/25/04
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Vegard Krog Petersen <vegard_kro...@hotmail.com>:
>
> omega wrote:
> >
> > http://www.redshift.com/~omega/2004/var/jcorliss/ACFfaq.zip
>
> Thanks, Omega!

No prob! :)

> I'm ashamed, as a Librarian I should have saved that FAQ for myself
> before John C. removed it.... :-)

At first thought, I wasn't sure how he'd feel on the matter of redistribution.
But then judging by how he'd zipped it up for us at the time of taking down
his site, I decided all was well.

--------readme.txt---------------
[....]
Thanks for downloading the F.A.Q.

John Corliss
May 8, 2002
---------------------------------

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Karen S.

Rod

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Nov 25, 2004, 4:36:19 AM11/25/04
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omega <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
news:818bq0p8fminom79i...@4ax.com:

>> Do you ever throw away anything ? :)
>
> I try all the time, and it's very stressful. There was a support group
> on the internet I once found, some embarrassing name like
> "clutter-bunnies" or some such, which I was going to join... But I'd
> saved such a big old stack of their help documents, that it became too
> hard to dig through all that to find their subscription address.
>

Well, there is alt.recovery.clutter.

omega

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Nov 25, 2004, 4:47:53 AM11/25/04
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Rod <re...@group.please>:
>
> Well, there is alt.recovery.clutter.

That's a possibility. I've been looking for an opportunity to brag
about my accomplishment this last year to have finally deleted 90%
of my win16 programs. (Tearful goodbyes.) Of course, over there,
they might not appreciate the details of stories like that. :)

--
Karen S.

Dewey Edwards

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Nov 25, 2004, 9:01:31 AM11/25/04
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On 25 Nov 2004 08:28:52 GMT, Rod <re...@group.please> wrote:

>> http://www.redshift.com/~omega/2004/var/jcorliss/nomoneyfloppy.gif

>Do you ever throw away anything ? :)
>And to stay pure, what currency are those coins in that gif anyway ? :)

*Every* currency. Designed that way. Does't matter what your local
currency is, the program is *free*.

RoSandee

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Nov 25, 2004, 9:19:05 AM11/25/04
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Got some more at ... http://home.tiscali.nl/~ti118953/logo/free.html

groet ... Ro.


miskairal

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Nov 25, 2004, 11:12:22 PM11/25/04
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Rod wrote:

> omega <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:0v4bq010esanhn3vq...@4ax.com:
>
>
>>Vegard Krog Petersen <vegard_kro...@hotmail.com>:
>>
>>>Anybody has the zipped copy of J.C. closed F.A.Q. ??
>>
>> http://www.redshift.com/~omega/2004/var/jcorliss/ACFfaq.zip
>> http://www.redshift.com/~omega/2004/var/jcorliss/nomoneyfloppy.gif
>>
>>
>
>
> Do you ever throw away anything ? :)
> And to stay pure, what currency are those coins in that gif anyway ? :)
> BTW, the most global currency I know is:
> http://www.thegamesjournal.com/photos/MonopolyMoney.jpg
>

Looks very much like the Aussie currency used to. We no longer have the
copperish one and two cent coins and the 50 cent is now hexagonal. We
also now have gold coloured $1 and $2 coins. The queen's head on the
coins means they must be commonwealth anyway.

Cheers
miskairal

CPA

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Nov 25, 2004, 11:48:09 PM11/25/04
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:46:56 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen
<vegard_kro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> CPA wrote:
> >
> > This might work?
> > http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/dosw31/pinbutsm.gif
> > Charles.Angelich
> >
>
> Some kind of Microsoft bashing image?
> You lost me there Chareles. What's the connection to freeware?

When people collect butterflies they pin them down. Most freeware
being mentioned here is for Microsoft OS hence - Microsoft Butterfly
Collection etc.

:-)

Nicolaas Hawkins

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Nov 26, 2004, 1:59:59 AM11/26/04
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 23:48:09 -0500, CPA <cang...@nospam.com> wrote in
<news:p8ddq0th13tok622r...@4ax.com>:

> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:46:56 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen
> <vegard_kro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CPA wrote:
>>>
>>> This might work?
>>> http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/dosw31/pinbutsm.gif
>>> Charles.Angelich
>>>
>>
>> Some kind of Microsoft bashing image?
>> You lost me there Chareles. What's the connection to freeware?
>
> When people collect butterflies they pin them down. Most freeware
> being mentioned here is for Microsoft OS hence - Microsoft Butterfly
> Collection etc.

Except if you blow that picture up to a size where you can see it, they
ain't pins through the butterfly, they're screws .... BIG screws.

No, thanks.

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Nicolaas.


- We often don't appreciate what we have until we lose it. Don't wait for
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Vegard Krog Petersen

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Nov 26, 2004, 3:33:43 PM11/26/04
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CPA wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:46:56 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen
> <vegard_kro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>CPA wrote:
>>
>>>This might work?
>>>http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/dosw31/pinbutsm.gif
>>>Charles.Angelich
>>
>>Some kind of Microsoft bashing image?
>>You lost me there Chareles. What's the connection to freeware?
>
> When people collect butterflies they pin them down. Most freeware
> being mentioned here is for Microsoft OS hence - Microsoft Butterfly
> Collection etc.
>
> :-)
> Charles.Angelich

Thanks for the explanation. I don't judge, you all do later in the
voting thread. Image will be available for all to vote.

Regards from vegard


--
Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway

My sites:
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Solitaire MahJongg: http://home.halden.net/vkp/vkp/
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Chinese Checkers: http://home.no.net/vkp/
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/

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CPA

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Nov 27, 2004, 12:22:54 AM11/27/04
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:59:59 +1300, Nicolaas Hawkins <gru...@any.time>
wrote:

[...]

> >> Some kind of Microsoft bashing image?
> >> You lost me there Chareles. What's the connection to freeware?
> >
> > When people collect butterflies they pin them down. Most freeware
> > being mentioned here is for Microsoft OS hence - Microsoft Butterfly
> > Collection etc.
>
> Except if you blow that picture up to a size where you can see it, they
> ain't pins through the butterfly, they're screws .... BIG screws.
>
> No, thanks.

What do you expect for free? The word "Freeware" in different colored
text? ;-)

Nicolaas Hawkins

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Nov 27, 2004, 12:54:00 AM11/27/04
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:22:54 -0500, CPA <cang...@nospam.com> wrote in
<news:5n3gq0dur54sgj3at...@4ax.com>:

> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:59:59 +1300, Nicolaas Hawkins <gru...@any.time>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>> Some kind of Microsoft bashing image?
>>>> You lost me there Chareles. What's the connection to freeware?
>>>
>>> When people collect butterflies they pin them down. Most freeware
>>> being mentioned here is for Microsoft OS hence - Microsoft Butterfly
>>> Collection etc.
>>
>> Except if you blow that picture up to a size where you can see it, they
>> ain't pins through the butterfly, they're screws .... BIG screws.
>>
>> No, thanks.
>
> What do you expect for free? The word "Freeware" in different colored
> text? ;-)

No, Charles, not at all - but the fact of it being free doesn't prevent me
from rejecting something I don't like, or that is, in my view, wrong.

Seeing as you mention colour, the logo (screwed papillons or whatever it
may end up being) needs to be in a colour (or colours) that also render
well in monochrome.

Even in this day and age not everyone worldwide (and - face it - this is a
worldwide newsgroup) can afford - or even needs/wants - a colour printer.

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.


- Love is free. The results aren't.

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