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Syd Barrett

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Jun 30, 2006, 11:08:07 AM6/30/06
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Hello all,
I seek a freeware app that has the functionality of Norton Ghost. I
need it to do the following: take my drive and image it so that I can
burn the image to an external USB DVD burner, and then later restore
the image. I am upgrading from a 40GB to a 120GB drive (the OS is
Windows 2003 server) and don't want to have to set everything back up
since there's a lot of data and installed apps on that server. I
googled backup software and there are lots of hits: I'm just looking
for some guidance on this group for what you think some top freeware
picks are. :)

Fran

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Jun 30, 2006, 11:16:17 AM6/30/06
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http://www.partition-saving.com/

"Syd Barrett" <sydbar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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MC

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Jun 30, 2006, 2:31:07 PM6/30/06
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Bonjour !

>>>with functionality of Norton Ghost?

sur le site, on lit :
>>>3- Configuration nécessaire
>>>Ce programme ne fonctionne pas sous Windows

>>> FAQ: partitions NTFS, il faut une partition FAT en lecture/écriture par le
>>> DOS

>>> FAQ: avec Windows NT, 2000 ou XP? R-Oui, mais pour cela il vous faut une
>>> disquette ou un CDROM de boot DOS et une partition FAT accessible

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@-salutations

Michel Claveau


MC

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Jun 30, 2006, 2:36:45 PM6/30/06
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... et :

- les disques graveurs USB ?
- les graveurs DVD ? Double-couche ?
- les disques/graveurs FireWire ?
- restaurer à partir d'un réseau ?

A noter que la quasi totalité des machines que je vend n'ont plus,
depuis un an, de lecteur de disquettes.

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@-salutations

Michel Claveau


Gert van der Kooij

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Jun 30, 2006, 5:59:18 PM6/30/06
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In article <mn.f4d47d664...@XX.XmclaveauX.com>,
XX....@XX.XmclaveauX.com says...

> ... et :
>
> - les disques graveurs USB ?
> - les graveurs DVD ? Double-couche ?
> - les disques/graveurs FireWire ?
> - restaurer à partir d'un réseau ?
>
> A noter que la quasi totalité des machines que je vend n'ont plus,
> depuis un an, de lecteur de disquettes.
>
>

This is an international newsgroup, please reply in english.

Steve H

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Jun 30, 2006, 6:17:49 PM6/30/06
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On 30 Jun 2006 08:08:07 -0700, "Syd Barrett" <sydbar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

This is one of the few areas in which Freeware hasn't come up trumps (
yet ), and I guess there's also the need for trust in such an
important application.

I've used Ghost for many years now - it's often bundled with
motherboards - but I've also used Paragon's excellent Drive Backup,
often found on computer magazine cover disks ( Drive Backup 6 is on
the PCPlus cover disk this month ).

Regards,

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Email: anyoldname(*AT*)gmx(*dot*)co(*dot*)uk

bambam

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Jun 30, 2006, 10:22:20 PM6/30/06
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"Syd Barrett" <sydbar...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1151680087.5...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

DriveImage XML

DriveImage XML is an easy to use and reliable program for imaging and
backing up partitions and logical drives.

The program allows you to:
# Backup logical drives and partitions to image files
# Browse these images, view and extract files
# Restore these images to the same or a different drive
# Copy directly from drive to drive
# Schedule automatic backups with your Task Scheduler

DriveImage XML runs under Windows XP Home, XP Professional and Windows
Server 2003 only. The program will backup, image and restore drives
formatted with FAT 12, 16, 32 and NTFS.

http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm


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Big Papi

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Jul 1, 2006, 12:33:30 AM7/1/06
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I second this!

No I'm Spartacus

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Jul 1, 2006, 12:47:35 AM7/1/06
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:33:30 -0700, Big Papi <big...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

And you can add a third vote from me for DriveImage XML. I don't use
it at home (I have a licence for Ghost for my home PC), but I do use
it on other PC's that aren't mine, and it is a quality piece of
software. Simple to use - install it, click the backup button (and if
you want to put the image on the same drive as is being imaged, just
make sure that the VSS service is running on the PC), put in the
location where you want to save the image, and away you go. It's quick
to do an image too, even when you select compression. I can't say I
have ever used it to restore an image to a drive that isn't the same
size as the original image was (in your case you aren't going from a
40GB to another 40GB), but that's something that someone else may be
able to give you some guideance on.
--

Regards,

Spartacus

Michel Claveau

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Jul 1, 2006, 1:09:52 AM7/1/06
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Hi!

>>> international newsgroup, please reply in english.

Not OK :
- english is for english newsgroups
- international <> english
- international is for everyone, all nations
- the quoted software is in French

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@-salutations

Michel Claveau


Roger Johansson

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Jul 1, 2006, 2:28:54 AM7/1/06
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Michel Claveau wrote:

> >>> international newsgroup, please reply in english.

> - english is for english newsgroups


> - international <> english
> - international is for everyone, all nations
> - the quoted software is in French

Don't reply in US english or UK english, reply in simple international
english.

The new world language is english. It is learned by people in all
countries, except in france.

We will soon be 6 billion english speaking people in the world, and a
few stubborn french speaking.

What would it look like if we all replied in our own languages?

Jo, det skulle bli obegripligt för de flesta, för du förstår nog
inte svenska särskilt bra va?


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Roger J.

Craig

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Jul 1, 2006, 2:47:41 AM7/1/06
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Roger Johansson wrote:

>
> What would it look like if we all replied in our own languages?
>

A lot less like McDonalds and more like the real world. MC takes his
chances in French. If he gets a hit, great. If not <shrug>. But
there's no need to impose an "international standard" where there is none.

-Craig

Ivan V. Klattrup

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Jul 1, 2006, 3:01:16 AM7/1/06
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Roger Johansson wrote:

> Jo, det skulle bli obegripligt för de flesta, för du förstår nog
> inte svenska särskilt bra va?

det er da ikke ret meget værre end dansk ;-)

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Ivan V. Klattrup
http://www.klattrup.dk


bambam

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Jul 1, 2006, 4:05:51 AM7/1/06
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Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in
news:hUopg.31778$VE1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:

Sometimes you just make sense. On matters of international importance you
can have my vote by proxy. :)

Gert van der Kooij

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Jul 1, 2006, 5:12:30 AM7/1/06
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In article <44a61dbd$0$84041$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>,
ivan.k...@gmail.com says...

> Roger Johansson wrote:
>
> > Jo, det skulle bli obegripligt för de flesta, för du förstår nog
> > inte svenska särskilt bra va?
>
> det er da ikke ret meget værre end dansk ;-)
>

Daar snap ik dus echt helemaal geen zak van :(

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Gert van der Kooij

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Jul 2, 2006, 6:49:43 AM7/2/06
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>
>
> Bullshit. Just download any of the Linux-based live cdroms
> like RIP. They beat the crap out of the Windows-based crapware
> morons like you run around "recomending"
>

You really have a surprising way to convince others to use linux. I
doubt this will help.

Daniel Mandic

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Jul 2, 2006, 8:51:39 AM7/2/06
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to convince others to use linux=???

Be quiet both!


Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

Roger Johansson

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Jul 2, 2006, 10:00:29 AM7/2/06
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Chris Lee wrote:

> Bullshit. Just download any of the Linux-based live cdroms
> like RIP. They beat the crap out of the Windows-based crapware
> morons like you run around "recomending"

Which linuzbased program can make partition images like ghost, so you
can look inside the image and copy into and out of the image like it
was a zip file?


--
Roger J.

Roger Johansson

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Jul 2, 2006, 10:07:45 AM7/2/06
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bambam wrote:

> DriveImage XML is an easy to use and reliable program for imaging and
> backing up partitions and logical drives.

> The program allows you to:
> # Backup logical drives and partitions to image files
> # Browse these images, view and extract files

Can you change files in the image too, and copy files into the image?

--
Roger J.

Renan(r)

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Jul 2, 2006, 5:48:00 PM7/2/06
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Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> writes:

I speak Portuguese (my main language), average English and some Spanish;
so, if someone replies, says, in French, the post is of no use for me.

The official language of the Internet is English, IMHO, not because it
is the mostly used (otherwise, it could as well be Chinese, but Chinese
is only spoken in China), but because it is the mostly accepted.
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Daniel Mandic

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Jul 3, 2006, 3:05:47 AM7/3/06
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Renan(r) wrote:

> The official language of the Internet is English, IMHO, not because it
> is the mostly used (otherwise, it could as well be Chinese, but
> Chinese is only spoken in China), but because it is the mostly
> accepted.


Hi Renan!


I don't think it does have to do with acceptance :-)

Spanish and Portuguese is also heavily used....

Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

Steve H

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Jul 3, 2006, 7:29:27 AM7/3/06
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On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:28:51 -0400, Chris Lee <cl...@envirolink.org>
wrote:

>In article <dl7ba2taqv1uad1pv...@4ax.com>, Ava...@Sig.UK says...
>>
<snip>


>>This is one of the few areas in which Freeware hasn't come up trumps
>>(
>>yet ), and I guess there's also the need for trust in such an
>>important application.
>>
>>I've used Ghost for many years now - it's often bundled with
>>motherboards - but I've also used Paragon's excellent Drive Backup,
>>often found on computer magazine cover disks ( Drive Backup 6 is on
>>the PCPlus cover disk this month ).
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>

>Bullshit. Just download any of the Linux-based live cdroms
>like RIP. They beat the crap out of the Windows-based crapware
>morons like you run around "recomending"
>
>

So you don't think that having the ability to run an imaging program
while the server is still operational is a good idea?
Or the ability to add to or extract data from said images - again,
while the server is still running?

As per your usual gobshite, the productivity factor escapes you.
Bless.

bambam

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Jul 4, 2006, 5:51:24 AM7/4/06
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"Roger Johansson" <roge...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1151849265.7...@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

No I don't think you can do either of those, and I'm not really sure why
you would want to.

Roger Johansson

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Jul 4, 2006, 7:33:39 AM7/4/06
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bambam wrote:

> >> DriveImage XML is an easy to use and reliable program for imaging and
> >> backing up partitions and logical drives.

> > Can you change files in the image too, and copy files into the image?

> No I don't think you can do either of those, and I'm not really sure why
> you would want to.

If your operating system becomes damaged by a virus, so it cannot be
started, you can make a ghost image of it, and then restore an earlier
image so you can run the system again.

Then use ghost explorer to study the image of the damaged system,
remove the virus damaged files, replace them with undamaged files, and
then you can restore the damaged system, now fixed and working again.

It's like if your car breaks down along the road, or crashes into a
rock wall, you don't have to just leave it at the roadside and get a
new car. You take a picture of the wreck with your ghost camera first,
and then you get a new car so you can get home again.

When you come home you can study the ghost picture of the crashed car,
and repair it, and start using it again. Or you can pick out the
valuable stuff you had in the crashed car, like your handbag, your
specially made motor and exhaust system, and use those things in your
new car.

That's why norton ghost is better than powerquest drive image which
allows only copying files out of the image, and better than "partition
saving" (freeware) which doesn't have any exploring functions at all.

There is still no freeware imaging program which allows changing the
image like norton ghost.

I prefer ghost version 8, There are higher versions now with new and
often strange differences. google for "norton ghost versions" and you
will find a lot of interesting reading.

http://ghost.radified.com/ for example, very good info

--
Roger J.

Renan(r)

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Jul 4, 2006, 12:05:35 PM7/4/06
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"Daniel Mandic" <daniel...@ping.at> writes:

> I don't think it does have to do with acceptance :-)

It depends. But I expect English to be widely understood in almost any
country.


> Spanish and Portuguese is also heavily used....

Mainly because Spanish and Portuguese are rather similar.

Daniel Mandic

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Jul 4, 2006, 1:55:20 PM7/4/06
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Renan(r) wrote:

> > Spanish and Portuguese is also heavily used....
>
> Mainly because Spanish and Portuguese are rather similar.


Ah, you are this.


Buenos Dias.

Greetings to the five time World Champion!!!


Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

P.S: (Cafu is my favourite)

bambam

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Jul 5, 2006, 6:57:38 AM7/5/06
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 04:33:39 -0700, Roger Johansson wrote:

>> >> DriveImage XML is an easy to use and reliable program for imaging and
>> >> backing up partitions and logical drives.
>
>> > Can you change files in the image too, and copy files into the image?
>
>> No I don't think you can do either of those, and I'm not really sure why
>> you would want to.
>
> If your operating system becomes damaged by a virus, so it cannot be
> started, you can make a ghost image of it, and then restore an earlier
> image so you can run the system again.
>
> Then use ghost explorer to study the image of the damaged system,
> remove the virus damaged files, replace them with undamaged files, and
> then you can restore the damaged system, now fixed and working again.

(snipped stuff about cars)

Thanks for the explanation, though I still don't think it sounds like a
very useful feature. Each to their own I suppose.

Roberto O

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Jul 20, 2006, 12:28:01 PM7/20/06
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Gert van der Kooij ha scritto:

Non credo. Ad ogni modo non se capis pù 'na ciola de quel che disè.
Per mì l'è bèl pensar che sem en tanti e che ognuni el poda
esprimerse a so' modo. Ma in Francia hanno cercato di tradurre pure il
termine "tie break" al Roland Garros con Jeu decisif... Mah... Noah
1983, Panatta 1976, Football WC: France 1998, Italia 1934 + 1938 + 1982
+ 2006. Ciò non toglie che siamo un'italietta.... quella di B....
vabbè delirio a +39° sulle Alpi

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