Scanner driver
Fred
necessary driver. There is a driver available for purchase that will work
with any or at least most scanners, but does anyone know of a freeware one?
David H. Lipman
| My Canon scanner won't work on windows 7, and Canon are not releasing the
| necessary driver. There is a driver available for purchase that will work
| with any or at least most scanners, but does anyone know of a freeware one?
Optical scanner software drivers and TWAIN middleware is highly hardware dependent.
The chances of a 3rd party freeware utility is slim to none. If there is a Win7 driver
that you can pay for, go for it as it may likely be your ONLY choice.
However, I am suspicious of any 3rd party puporting to having Canon scanner software
drivers and TWAIN middleware.
What is the model ?
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Fred
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:hi32t...@news3.newsguy.com...
> From: "Fred" <r...@parachute.net.nz>
>
> | My Canon scanner won't work on windows 7, and Canon are not releasing
> the
> | necessary driver. There is a driver available for purchase that will
> work
> | with any or at least most scanners, but does anyone know of a freeware
> one?
>
>
> Optical scanner software drivers and TWAIN middleware is highly hardware
> dependent.
>
> The chances of a 3rd party freeware utility is slim to none. If there is
> a Win7 driver
> that you can pay for, go for it as it may likely be your ONLY choice.
>
> However, I am suspicious of any 3rd party puporting to having Canon
> scanner software
> drivers and TWAIN middleware.
>
> What is the model ?
Lide 30. Definitely not interested in paying for 3rd party software. I do
have an old laptop (XP) that I can keep for scanning. It's far from an
everyday use for me.
David H. Lipman
| Lide 30. Definitely not interested in paying for 3rd party software. I do
| have an old laptop (XP) that I can keep for scanning. It's far from an
| everyday use for me.
I have the SAME model ! :-)
Have you tried the Vista version of the software ?
Craig
> From: "Fred"<r...@parachute.net.nz>
>
>
> | Lide 30. Definitely not interested in paying for 3rd party software. I do
> | have an old laptop (XP) that I can keep for scanning. It's far from an
> | everyday use for me.
>
> I have the SAME model ! :-)
>
> Have you tried the Vista version of the software ?
That's what I was gonna ask.
Every time the aging peripherals gave me a bother about drivers under
win7 (3 times & counting), I've been able to use Vista's w/o a quibble.
hth,
--
-Craig
philo
I have an old HP scanner that I managed to get working with both Vista
and Win7 simply by using the XP drivers.
You may want to grab them off your XP machine
of the installer is a self-extracting executable
although I have heard that the installer will run if you use the
compatibility mode
(I have not tired it though)
Fred
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
> From: "Fred" <r...@parachute.net.nz>
>
>
> | Lide 30. Definitely not interested in paying for 3rd party software. I
> do
> | have an old laptop (XP) that I can keep for scanning. It's far from an
> | everyday use for me.
>
> I have the SAME model ! :-)
>
> Have you tried the Vista version of the software ?
>
David H. Lipman
| Yep. Doesn't work.
Sorry to hear that Fred. You are SOL. Luckily the Canon flatbed scanners are relatively
inexpensive. At least you will know that the replacement for the LiDE 30 will have a
higher resolution and be faster. Albeit you did indicate you can get by by using the old
scanner on an older platform.
Mark Warner
I was able to extract the drivers from the XP executable; pita, as you
had to go two layers deep to get to 'em (i.e. had to extract them from a
setup.exe that was wrapped up in another setup.exe).
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=DownloadDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=351&modelid=6623
http://tinyurl.com/ydgc6aw
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nom...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>My Canon scanner won't work on windows 7, and Canon are not releasing the
>necessary driver. There is a driver available for purchase that will work
>with any or at least most scanners, but does anyone know of a freeware one?
>
My LIDE 25 works fine with a Ubuntu liveCD. A slight
inconvenience but worth the small effort involved.
Gumtrees
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Brian (Groups)
I can't quite remember the details, but I recall getting my old Agfa
scanner operating on XP from 98 by selecting a "generic" color flatbed
scanner option from some dialog or other... maybe an "install new
hardware" wizard or something. Might be worth having a poke around.
Brian
John Corliss
Fred wrote:
> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> Fred wrote:
>>
>>> Lide 30. Definitely not interested in paying for 3rd party software. I
>>> do have an old laptop (XP) that I can keep for scanning. It's far from
>>> an everyday use for me.
>>
>> I have the SAME model ! :-)
>>
>> Have you tried the Vista version of the software ?
>
> Yep. Doesn't work.
One option you might consider is (if this is possible) to run a duel
boot system with Ubuntu or some other Linux distro on your computer.
According to this site, your scanner is supported by Ubuntu:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128704
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x-privat.org for eg.) as possible due to forgeries posted through them.
No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited,
trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
mike
Send me a valid email address.
Ivan V. Klattrup
>Lide 30.
http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0000466.asp
ScanGear CS (7.0.3.1a)
This is a software that allows your computer to communicate with the scanner
Compatibility:
Operating system(s): Windows 2000, Windows 7, Windows Vista 32bit,
Windows XP
Language(s): English
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ok
Adam Leinss
news:cfbd1ba9-a9c0-4733...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
I had to get software called Vuescan to get my Agfa 1212U to work on
Vista/7. I think it's 11 years old, but it still works! The software is
$40 though.
You might want to try a VM solution...install XP into Virtualbox, then try
to setup your scanner. According to the wiki, it supports USB devices.
Adam
rich
> (horrible quoting corrected)
>
> Fred wrote:
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> Fred wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lide 30. Definitely not interested in paying for 3rd party software.
>>>> I do have an old laptop (XP) that I can keep for scanning. It's far
>>>> from an everyday use for me.
>>>
>>> I have the SAME model ! :-)
>>>
>>> Have you tried the Vista version of the software ?
>>
>> Yep. Doesn't work.
>
> One option you might consider is (if this is possible) to run a duel
> boot system with Ubuntu or some other Linux distro on your computer.
> According to this site, your scanner is supported by Ubuntu:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128704
Yes, my Lide 30 runs ok with Mepis 8 (debian)
One possibility would be to run a virtual machine, say VirtualBox on the
host Windows 7 and have a guest (linux) OS. I have seen reports of
'problems' with the 'guest-additions' needed for file sharing so it would
be try and see if they have it sorted.
--
rich
Fred
"Ivan V. Klattrup" <ivan.k...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b45dfe0$0$36586$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> Fred wrote:
>
>>Lide 30.
>
> http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0000466.asp
>
> ScanGear CS (7.0.3.1a)
>
>
> This is a software that allows your computer to communicate with the
> scanner
>
>
> Compatibility:
>
> Operating system(s): Windows 2000, Windows 7, Windows Vista 32bit,
> Windows XP
>
thast doesn't work.
Fred
Spamblk
various scanners by firmware file. In my case, the file is called
SBSfw.usb. At 7K its not very large which suggests that the unique parts of
a device driver for each scanner type is fairly small. Most distributions
of Live CD (no install) linux should have already have firmware files for
most scanners, see discussion @
http://forums.computeractive.co.uk/showthread.php?t=185411
"Brian (Groups)" <ussps...@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:cfbd1ba9-a9c0-4733...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 7, 8:44�am, "Fred" <r...@parachute.net.nz> wrote:
>> My Canon scanner won't work on windows 7, and Canon are not releasing
<snip>
Mark Warner
John Corliss wrote:
>
> One option you might consider is (if this is possible) to run a duel
> boot system with Ubuntu or some other Linux distro on your computer.
> According to this site, your scanner is supported by Ubuntu:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128704
rich wrote:
>
> Yes, my Lide 30 runs ok with Mepis 8 (debian)
nom...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> My LIDE 25 works fine with a Ubuntu liveCD. A slight
> inconvenience but worth the small effort involved.
Spamblk wrote:
>
> The Linux Sane/Xsane driver appears to be fairly generic and is adapted to
> various scanners by firmware file. In my case, the file is called
> SBSfw.usb. At 7K its not very large which suggests that the unique parts of
> a device driver for each scanner type is fairly small. Most distributions
> of Live CD (no install) linux should have already have firmware files for
> most scanners, see discussion @
>
> http://forums.computeractive.co.uk/showthread.php?t=185411
Fred --
You have no idea how much I'm enjoying this thread.
Thanks.
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Fred
"Mark Warner" <markwarner195...@att.net> wrote in message
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Brian (Groups)
> "Mark Warner" <markwarner1954.inhibiti...@att.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Have you tried the method in this forum:
http://www.bullsworld.net/2009/03/19/windows-7-canon-lide-35-installation-fix/
Brian
Mark Warner
> "Mark Warner" wrote
>>
>> Fred --
>>
>> You have no idea how much I'm enjoying this thread.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> You have no idea how much I'm not.
You have my sympathies. I hope you get it resolved to your satisfaction.
But in light of all the "there are no drivers for Linux" nonsense I have
to listen to, the irony of your situation -- and especially the number
of responses suggesting using Linux -- is amusing.
There are a number of Linux tools that are very good at extracting the
actual "meat" from self-extracting driver exe files that may help you
out. If I can assist, don't hesitate to ask.
bob
netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com says...
That's because Vista and Win7 use the same driver model.
Bob
Roger Hunt
>
RAID card drivers makes Win7 drop dead here, and they haven't done a
Win7 RAID driver for that card, if they ever will.
--
Roger Hunt
John Corliss
And they probably won't, since that would hurt their sales. Of course,
that's penny wise and pound foolish because most people when burned like
that, get their hardware upgrades from another company.
It would be nice if somebody would start a website which listed track
records for companies with regard to dropping support of their hardware
whenever they have a chance. Until the consumers do something like this,
the situation is only going to get worse.
By the way, I'm *still* using an ancient Hewlett-Packard 855C with my XP
Home SP3 computer. The current driver removed several key features, one
of them resident fonts. This means that everything I print takes the
slow graphics mode method to do so. I find it hard to believe that this
was anything other than deliberate on the part of HP and MS (the latter
supposedly created the driver.)
The main reason I mention the printer is to demonstrate that some
hardware, when carefully taken care of, will last LONG past what the
manufacturer says it will.
With each upgrade of Windows, Microsoft allows the hardware
manufacturers to engage in a feeding frenzy of forced upgrades. Over the
years I've seen this situation get increasingly worse and worse. For
instance, a common practice is to write drivers for a newer version of
Windows, but as I mentioned above, remove features from the hardware.
There's simply no excuse for that kind of behavior other than corporate
greed.
mike
I agree with you 100%...but...
What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran
on slow computers?
Why would anybody buy new hardware or software?
Who'd fund development for innovation?
How could Intel develop the P4 if everybody was happy and quit buying
PIII? Especially if new sw ran WELL on old hardware.
My car is 20 years old and not even half worn out. Why the heck do we
need an entire fleet of new models every year?
I do a lot of garage sales. It's not unusual, like I see it 10 times a
day, to see 5 cellphones for sale in one garage. I've never owned even
one. Can't imagine anybody going thru 5.
We do it because buying new stuff is what makes the economy go round.
If we quit buying, we end up...well...where we are now.
But that's all very good news for me. If you stay 5-years behind the
state of the market, you can save BIG BUX. A 5-year-old computer
is WAY more than most people need.
Just work the system instead of letting it work you.
I can build a very capable computer out of $10 worth of discards.
'Bout the only thing I buy new any more is food. Used food smells bad.
John Corliss
As I see it, there are two extremes:
1. The user wants never to have to buy new hardware or software
2. The suppliers would have everybody buying new hardware and software
every single second if they could (Microsoft wants to rent software to
people and increase the amount of money we're pouring into their coffers.)
There has to be a workable compromise. What we have now leans too far in
favor of the suppliers.
David H. Lipman
| I agree with you 100%...but...
| What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
| extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran
| on slow computers?
| Why would anybody buy new hardware or software?
| Who'd fund development for innovation?
| How could Intel develop the P4 if everybody was happy and quit buying
| PIII? Especially if new sw ran WELL on old hardware.
| My car is 20 years old and not even half worn out. Why the heck do we
| need an entire fleet of new models every year?
| I do a lot of garage sales. It's not unusual, like I see it 10 times a
| day, to see 5 cellphones for sale in one garage. I've never owned even
| one. Can't imagine anybody going thru 5.
| We do it because buying new stuff is what makes the economy go round.
| If we quit buying, we end up...well...where we are now.
| But that's all very good news for me. If you stay 5-years behind the
| state of the market, you can save BIG BUX. A 5-year-old computer
| is WAY more than most people need.
| Just work the system instead of letting it work you.
| I can build a very capable computer out of $10 worth of discards.
| 'Bout the only thing I buy new any more is food. Used food smells bad.
You are hinting at the business practice known as "planned obsolescence"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps)
> My Canon scanner won't work on windows 7, and Canon are not releasing the
> necessary driver. There is a driver available for purchase that will work
> with any or at least most scanners, but does anyone know of a freeware one?
Linux maintains drivers for old hardware! :)
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>
> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran
> on slow computers?
What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away?
Bear Bottoms
> mike wrote:
>>
>> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
>> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and
>> ran on slow computers?
>
> What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away?
>
When they do so, it would be a good thing.
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Craig
> Mark Warner<markwarner195...@att.net> wrote in
> news:7qu72i...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> mike wrote:
>>>
>>> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
>>> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and
>>> ran on slow computers?
>>
>> What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away?
>>
>
> When they do so, it would be a good thing.
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Bear Bottoms
news:hid5fb$g3b$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
I have hardware I want to run...no thanks.
Craig
Squirm away.
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Bear Bottoms
@news.eternal-september.org:
Why do you want to be nasty? It tis a fact.
mike
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Remember webtv?
Webtv failed for a number of reasons:
1 your tv was crap
2 your network bandwidth was crap
3 you had much better alternatives.
But your tv is no longer crap
You have much higher network bandwidth
You soon won't have any alternatives.
You'll go to Best Buy and pick up your personal computer.
It'll be almost free after rebate, with activation.
You'll take it home, install the batteries and push the "go" button.
It'll connect automagically to your cable box...what, you don't have a
cable box?...you will...and the welcome screen
will pop up on the 60" AV screen on your wall....
"Welcome to the M$ cloud. Insert debit card to continue."
You stick in your card and the next screen pops up:
Select a plan. Plans start at $59.99/mo for 200MB download.
Unlimited download starts at $99.99/mo for the first user...only
$49.99/month for each additional user, promotional plan for six months
early termination fee applies
1Mbps data rate, unlimited data (*unless we arbitrarily decide you're
using excessive bandwidth and throttle your data to whatever rate
and byte limit we choose. You may at any time pay the early termination
fee and cancel the service, but you have no alternative place to go.
Your personal computer will be deactivated...permanently.)
Your data is conveniently stored on our redundant servers.
Plans start at $9.99/month plus 50-cents/gigabyte or fraction thereof.
promotional rate
(*Not responsible for data loss due to acts of god, including, but not
limited to fire, flood, terrorism, loss of power or our own incompetence.)
Your data is protected by our state of the art encryption.
Encryption available for only $9.99/month promotional rate...
(*not responsible for data compromised by acts of god, including but
not limited to fire, flood, terrorism, hacking, cracking, theft,
subpoena by government agency
or our own incompetence.)
All applications run on the cloud server. You need never be concerned
about updates. All applications are continuously upgraded to the latest
set of bugs. Some of your source material will periodically fail to run
due to changes in the applications. Do not worry, our migration tools
will fix some of it...for a small fee.
Basic office packages start at $9.99/month *promotional rate...
plus .02-cents/keystroke or fraction thereof. "Backspace key is FREE
for a limited time, restrictions apply."
Other application packages priced individually.
Note: all services offered on a "best effort" basis. Our responsibility
is to provide the contracted services if we feel like it. Data rate not
guaranteed, uptime not guaranteed, data integrity/security not guaranteed.
Your responsibility is to pay for contracted services in full whether we
provide them or not. You agree that any disputes will be settled by an
arbitrator in our employ. You can sue us, but who are you
trying to kid? We already defeated the US government in court.
Bend over, check your plan and this box to agree to service terms.
Complete service term details available AFTER you agree to them.
"You're so tense, this won't hurt...much...if you relax."
You check the boxes. Lights flash for a few seconds, the menu screen
pops up and the keyboard starts to emit a soft "ka-ching" sound as the
fees mount up.
You decide to check out the FAQ...
Q: How do I rip a CD?
A: We'll be having none of that. And why would you even want to?
Every recording ever made is right here in the cloud for your listening
pleasure. Plans start at $9.99/month promotional rate for six months
plus 10-cents/play. Click here to sign up.
Q: How do I block ads on web pages?
A: We'll be having none of that. Advertising pays our executive
bonuses.
Q: Can I do VOIP?
A: You surely can. Plans start at $9.95/month promotional rate for six
months. For a limited time, you can get a free webcam, restrictions
apply...click here to sign up.
I could go on, but you get the point.
That ancient relic PC with the P4 and the dialup modem
running horny heron is starting to look pretty good about now.
mike
> mike wrote:
>>
>> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
>> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran
>> on slow computers?
>
> What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away?
>
It would fail.
Just look at what happened with linux.
It was killed by the very merits that the geeks prized.
A new OS has zero chance of success on the desktop until
it is standardized. Somebody with very deep pockets has to take it over.
They have to write, update, extend, enforce standards. This is an
expensive process with no end.
They gotta cause vendors to write hardware drivers. SW developers
have to port their code TO ONE STANDARD API. If you have to have
six different versions of software and different distribution
methods, the system will collapse under it's own weight.
The phrase, "compile from source" must be ELIMINATED from the
vocabulary. The geeks have to quit saying, "Hey, look what I can do!"
and get back to an organized effort with compromise.
I'm not suggesting we prevent any high-school kid with a modem releasing
an OS distribution. But if they expect to have hardware drivers
and software interactivity, they'd need to comply with the standards.
Use any window manager you want, just don't expect software to work
optimally with anything other than the official standard one.
It's a chicken/egg problem. Nobody's gonna invest in sw and drivers
support if there's no installed base. And there ain't no installed base
because there's insufficient support.
And we're ignoring the fact that M$ can instantly DESTROY any
partner turned competitor with a sneeze. You gonna risk your
lucrative wireless widget business by pissing off M$?
It's not rocket surgery. If only
business ran the way geeks wanted.
Who has pockets deep enough? Google! But they have better sense.
When the business model is "free as in beer", you're gonna have a hard
time convincing investors that it's a good idea. Google is gonna do
something
with linux, but it'll be more in line with THEIR business model...the
central vacuum system. It has hoses running everywhere, each finely tuned
to suck even the tiniest amount of cash from the smallest crevice.
The only other alternative is for the EU or maybe the Chinese government
to get so pissed off at M$ that they fund an OS development and mandate
usage by the government. I'm not optimistic about that either. And it
wouldn't be free any more.
OS's like linux have their niches...just don't invest in any effort
to take them mainstream.
George Orwell
> Mark Warner wrote:
> > mike wrote:
> >>
> >> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely
> >> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran
> >> on slow computers?
> >
> > What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away?
> >
>
> It would fail.
> Just look at what happened with linux.
> It was killed by the very merits that the geeks prized.
If by "killed" you mean owning the server market and gaining share
in the business and home markets by leaps and bounds... you have a
point.
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John Corliss
> John Corliss wrote:
>>
LOL Wow. What a masterpiece! I've backed that one up for posterity and
couldn't bring myself to snip any of it from this reply! Many thanks!
za kAT
> If by "killed" you mean owning the server market and gaining share
> in the business and home markets by leaps and bounds... you have a
> point.
Ha. So true.
--
za kAT
Craig
On 01/10/2010 05:26 PM, mike wrote:
...
>
> You ain't seen nothing yet.
> I could go on, but you get the point.
Perfect.
>
> That ancient relic PC with the P4 and the dialup modem
> running horny heron is starting to look pretty good about now.
Don't worry too much about that relic. I just finished refurbishing an
older p4 w/1GB and Ubuntu 9.10 for a relative. Discards + spare parts +
Linux = very snappy computing experience. Including rummaging for parts
in the storage, the thing was ready & up-to-date in less than an hour.
On the other hand, "fixed" friend's Vista lappy. It's a Gateway Celeron
M 520, shipped w/512 MB RAM ("Vista Ready"). Maxed out the RAM (2GB),
dusted off the malware, applied updates going back 12 months, etc: Runs
like a top. "Only" 3 hands-on hours plus innumerable "downloading
urgent MS Update 053939023" hours... All told, it was on my desk for
close to a full day just doing the update dance.
>> There has to be a workable compromise. What we have now leans too far
>> in favor of the suppliers.
If we're willing to forfeit those habits which are unnecessary to our
computing goals, there's a lot we can do. For me, at home & work, I
have two goals I use in plotting a strategy:
- data portability (iow: my data is readable & movable by me)
- OS agnosticism.
This isn't a manifesto or anything. It's just my requirements boiled
down. I do have to forgo some things that others will find unacceptable
such as playing with the latest gadgets (e.g. Magic Jack) or depending
on an app that isn't cross-platform.
An example is MS Office Outlook. Best PIM I've used. Wish I could
integrate it into my computing goals but, I won't. So I get 60-80% of
its functionality with TBird + Lightning + Basket Notes. Annoying?
Sure. Deal-breaker? Nah.
Neat topic, thx.
--
-Craig
mike
At first I was disappointed by your behavior:
Delete any content that does not agree with you
and redefine the problem to be that which linux
has already solved.
After thinking about it, I realized that
you are a GENIUS. Redefining the problem is
exactly what's needed here.
Hear Ye, Hear Ye! Be it known throughout the land
that the linux project is a resounding success
and is #declared Completed.
Behind the scenes, armies of gurus tend headless
linux machines that ARE the essence of the world
wide web that we know and love.
This Saturday in Times Square and similar venues
worldwide, there will be a party to celebrate.
There will be wine, food and song.
Each linux programmer and user will receive a
symbolic link to /dev/70virgins as your reward
for selfless devotion to the project.
Party Hardy, fellow Herons.
But all you linux geeks won't be out of work.
Next Monday marks the launch of a significant new
initiative. The goal is to build a desktop version
of linux with a display and user interface designed
to be interactive with ordinary people in ordinary
personal and business situations. This endeavor will
embrace the good parts of windows, but go beyond,
unencumbered by installed base, obsolete
standards compliance and organized, managed development.
It will forge and maintain new standards, coordinate hardware
and software vendors, create standardized regression tests
and will maintain a common repository for 100% compatible
applications.
The tentative name for this initiative is
windows-unix or winsux for short.
For more details, dump the contents of distrowatch.org
to a file, grep it for the name of your linux distribution
on the same line as a 7-digit hash code containing at least
two, but not more than four (letter [A-F]) hex digits. Use
that number to index
into the linux_is_easy file found at youbetchaitseasy.com
Download the source code from the link found there and execute
the Makefile to compile the application that accesses our
secure information server.
Windroids, just click here.
This is a bold new direction for linux. Soon,
there'll be a winsux computer on every desktop.
We've been successful in the server market, we will be successful
in the desktop market.
Mark
> At first I was disappointed by your behavior:
> Delete any content that does not agree with you
> and redefine the problem to be that which linux
> has already solved.
>
> After thinking about it, I realized that
> you are a GENIUS.
You can call yourself a creative genius when
you've done what I've done. My walls are covered
with the first run editions of /intricate valuable artwork/.
I have the originals safely stored away too.
All these pieces were commissioned before
they were started, and they represent thousands
of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the
same artist. Me
--
Mark inventor/artist/pilot/guitarist/scientist/philosopher/
scratch golfer/cat wrangler and observer of the mundane.
And much much more including wealthy beyond anything you can imagine.
My website http://www.hosanna1.com/
Mark Warner
> Don't worry too much about that relic. I just finished refurbishing an
> older p4 w/1GB and Ubuntu 9.10 for a relative. Discards + spare parts +
> Linux = very snappy computing experience. Including rummaging for parts
> in the storage, the thing was ready & up-to-date in less than an hour.
Did the same thing this weekend with a 1.8GHz/768MB "obsolete" box I was
gifted. Runs like a scared rabbit with MEPIS. Ten minutes to install
(hard disk was pre-partitioned), and an hour with me updating and
tweaking and just playing around. (Could have handed it over to a new
user after twenty minutes.) Playing with Linux installs is downright
/enjoyable/.
> On the other hand, "fixed" friend's Vista lappy. It's a Gateway Celeron
> M 520, shipped w/512 MB RAM ("Vista Ready"). Maxed out the RAM (2GB),
> dusted off the malware, applied updates going back 12 months, etc: Runs
> like a top. "Only" 3 hands-on hours plus innumerable "downloading
> urgent MS Update 053939023" hours... All told, it was on my desk for
> close to a full day just doing the update dance.
I'm scanning an infested Windows machine as we speak (Avira Rescue CD
rocks!). Remains to be seen whether I'll be able to clean it up or
whether a reinstall is in its future. In any case, it won't be quick or
easy. I told the owner not to expect it back for a day or two. And it
sure won't be /enjoyable/.
mike
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:52:56 -0800, mike wrote:
>
>> At first I was disappointed by your behavior:
>> Delete any content that does not agree with you
>> and redefine the problem to be that which linux
>> has already solved.
>>
>> After thinking about it, I realized that
>> you are a GENIUS.
>
> You can call yourself a creative genius when
> you've done what I've done. My walls are covered
> with the first run editions of /intricate valuable artwork/.
> I have the originals safely stored away too.
> All these pieces were commissioned before
> they were started, and they represent thousands
> of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the
> same artist. Me
Wow. that's the most complete deflection I've
ever seen. Not a single shred of relevance.
Good Job.
Mark
You did know that in Junior high school I memorized the
Latin genus of all the snakes in North America? I was
a herpetologist by age 15...the same time I began to sell
my cubist paintings.
And you?
mike
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:12:32 -0800, mike wrote:
>
>> Mark wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:52:56 -0800, mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> At first I was disappointed by your behavior:
>>>> Delete any content that does not agree with you
>>>> and redefine the problem to be that which linux
>>>> has already solved.
>>>>
>>>> After thinking about it, I realized that
>>>> you are a GENIUS.
>>> You can call yourself a creative genius when
>>> you've done what I've done. My walls are covered
>>> with the first run editions of /intricate valuable artwork/.
>>> I have the originals safely stored away too.
>>> All these pieces were commissioned before
>>> they were started, and they represent thousands
>>> of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the
>>> same artist. Me
>> Wow. that's the most complete deflection I've
>> ever seen. Not a single shred of relevance.
>>
>> Good Job.
>
> You did know that in Junior high school I memorized the
> Latin genus of all the snakes in North America?
I guess I missed the memo. Mark it URGENT next time.
Maybe that's why memorizing command line arguments comes
easy to you.
I was
> a herpetologist by age 15
Sorry to hear that.
Use a condom so you don't infect anybody else.
...the same time I began to sell
> my cubist paintings.
Be careful, all that patting yourself on the back
might hurt your arm.
>
> And you?
I'm well...thanks for asking.
Mark
I've since moved on to guitars, turbojets, alternative
energy, and Victory gardens and I founded a school of
the arts in my name.
I'm going to buy a plane, I'm training to be a pilot.
I'm going to buy an estate and put in a landing strip.
It's only $500,000 dollars...
mike
Your mother must be SO proud.
How's that arm? Want some aspirin?
N4469P
Lookee here. *Two* idiots arguing.
Mark
I would love to continue to make a fool out of
you Mr. Nobody but this cute little brunette named Tammy
stole her boyfriend's car and credit cards and put
me up on the 14th floor of the "Yachtsman" for a week
in Myrtle Beach, while spending thousands by day,
and smoking the sheets by night.