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Art

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Oct 7, 2012, 12:59:17 PM10/7/12
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I've been following Barry's development of Precise Puppy Linux
and wanted to be able to boot to versions of it plus my
favorite Puppy breed Lucid 528. Since I have both Windows
XP and 2000 installed, I spent some time figuring out how
to boot to any of my operating systems. My web page
describes the method I worked out:
http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg

Art


Zak Hipp

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Oct 7, 2012, 1:24:50 PM10/7/12
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Great bit of info'. Looks very clear and precise.

Thank you.


Zak Hipp


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Oct 7, 2012, 1:28:06 PM10/7/12
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Well done. Dunno why you think its OT.

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Art

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Oct 7, 2012, 2:36:05 PM10/7/12
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:24:50 +0100, Zak Hipp <Z...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Thank you Zak. I had posted about my web page on the Puppy
Linux Forum in the Beginners section. One old timer there
there made a couple of suggestions which I quickly acted on.
For one thing, I added the Notes down at the bottom to help
round the thing out.

I look forward to getting more feedback and discussion on
the subject. I know there are ways (or at least one way)
to do what I wanted using a single menu. But the approach
looked kinda tricky and scary (it involved temporary hiding
of partitions).

Art


Craig

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Oct 7, 2012, 2:52:38 PM10/7/12
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Solid reference Art, thanks. I don't understand, though, why you chose
two boot menus instead of going with something like GRUB.

Best,
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-Craig

Art

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Oct 7, 2012, 3:16:38 PM10/7/12
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:52:38 -0700, Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com>
wrote:
As I said to Zak, I couldn't find a single menu arrangement I felt
comfortable with. I'm all ears if you know of a good single menu
approach to boot versions of Windows as well as Linux.

Art

Dances with Socks

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Oct 7, 2012, 6:19:02 PM10/7/12
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when I first started using puppy, I used the info from here to boot.
Lin n' Win
http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/step00-linnwin.htm
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Art

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Oct 7, 2012, 6:26:39 PM10/7/12
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:19:02 -0400, Dances with Socks
<maxp...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>when I first started using puppy, I used the info from here to boot.
>Lin n' Win
>http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/step00-linnwin.htm

So did I. But I decided to try something more involved.

Art

Craig

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Oct 7, 2012, 9:14:41 PM10/7/12
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GRUB. It'll handle more than just Win & Linux, if you're ever so
inclined. Been using it for a long time now with no ill effects and,
since it's used by most of the Linux distributions, there's a lot of
support, development & maintenance.

> GNU GRUB is a Multiboot boot loader. It was derived from GRUB, the
> GRand Unified Bootloader, which was originally designed and
> implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn.
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

hth,

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Art

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Oct 8, 2012, 8:36:14 AM10/8/12
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:14:41 -0700, Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com>
wrote:

>On 10/07/2012 12:16 PM, Art wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:52:38 -0700, Craig
>> <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/07/2012 09:59 AM, Art wrote:
>>>> I've been following Barry's development of Precise Puppy Linux
>>>> and wanted to be able to boot to versions of it plus my favorite
>>>> Puppy breed Lucid 528. Since I have both Windows XP and 2000
>>>> installed, I spent some time figuring out how to boot to any of
>>>> my operating systems. My web page describes the method I worked
>>>> out: http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg
>>> Solid reference Art, thanks. I don't understand, though, why you
>>> chose two boot menus instead of going with something like GRUB.
>>
>> As I said to Zak, I couldn't find a single menu arrangement I felt
>> comfortable with. I'm all ears if you know of a good single menu
>> approach to boot versions of Windows as well as Linux.

>GRUB. It'll handle more than just Win & Linux, if you're ever so
>inclined. Been using it for a long time now with no ill effects and,
>since it's used by most of the Linux distributions, there's a lot of
>support, development & maintenance.
>
>> GNU GRUB is a Multiboot boot loader. It was derived from GRUB, the
>> GRand Unified Bootloader, which was originally designed and
>> implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn.
>http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

Well, so far I haven't found in the documentation that GNU GRUB is
capable of booting Windows. It simply throws the ball to NTDLR via
its chainloader command. Therein lies the problem when multiple
versions of Windows need to be on a single menu along with versions of
Linux. There's no problem with single menu if only one version of
Windows is involved and multiple Linux versions.

What am I missing?

Art


Craig

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Oct 8, 2012, 10:15:26 AM10/8/12
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For each instance of Windows, there'd be an instance of NTLDR and a
boot.ini. I found a convo which covers this and references good source
material.

Fwiw, I'm not saying this is the way to go, just that it can be done.
;-) Thanks again for posting your reference.

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Zak Hipp

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Oct 10, 2012, 7:45:01 PM10/10/12
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On 07/10/2012 19:36, Art wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:24:50 +0100, Zak Hipp <Z...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/10/2012 17:59, Art wrote:
>>> I've been following Barry's development of Precise Puppy Linux
>>> and wanted to be able to boot to versions of it plus my
>>> favorite Puppy breed Lucid 528. Since I have both Windows
>>> XP and 2000 installed, I spent some time figuring out how
>>> to boot to any of my operating systems. My web page
>>> describes the method I worked out:
>>> http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg
>>
>> Great bit of info'. Looks very clear and precise.
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> Thank you Zak. I had posted about my web page on the Puppy
> Linux Forum in the Beginners section. One old timer there
> there made a couple of suggestions which I quickly acted on.
> For one thing, I added the Notes down at the bottom to help
> round the thing out.
>
> I look forward to getting more feedback and discussion on
> the subject. I know there are ways (or at least one way)
> to do what I wanted using a single menu. But the approach
> looked kinda tricky and scary (it involved temporary hiding
> of partitions).
>
> Art

I was looking forward to the big boys input, but it looks as if your method was just too definitive for a technical
knockabout.

Perhaps you should have announced it as the best example of this technique; cannot be improved. :)


Zak Hipp


Art

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Oct 11, 2012, 8:44:13 AM10/11/12
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:45:01 +0100, Zak Hipp <Z...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 07/10/2012 19:36, Art wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:24:50 +0100, Zak Hipp <Z...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/10/2012 17:59, Art wrote:
>>>> I've been following Barry's development of Precise Puppy Linux
>>>> and wanted to be able to boot to versions of it plus my
>>>> favorite Puppy breed Lucid 528. Since I have both Windows
>>>> XP and 2000 installed, I spent some time figuring out how
>>>> to boot to any of my operating systems. My web page
>>>> describes the method I worked out:
>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg
>>>
>>> Great bit of info'. Looks very clear and precise.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Thank you Zak. I had posted about my web page on the Puppy
>> Linux Forum in the Beginners section. One old timer there
>> there made a couple of suggestions which I quickly acted on.
>> For one thing, I added the Notes down at the bottom to help
>> round the thing out.
>>
>> I look forward to getting more feedback and discussion on
>> the subject. I know there are ways (or at least one way)
>> to do what I wanted using a single menu. But the approach
>> looked kinda tricky and scary (it involved temporary hiding
>> of partitions).

>I was looking forward to the big boys input, but it looks as if your
>method was just too definitive for a technical knockabout.
>
>Perhaps you should have announced it as the best example of this
>technique; cannot be improved. :)

<chuckle> Well, Zak, I expanded the page a bit and posted notice
in the "How To" section of the Puppy Forum. Some guy wanted
to know if my method works for Vista and Win 7. One of the
experts there responded with a "no" since they use different
boot mechanisms than 2K/XP. Oh well, nothing is perfect :)

Art
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