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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:40:02 -0500
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Subject: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge
Easy rescue system with GUI tools for full system backup, bare metal
recovery, partition editing, recovering deleted files, data protection,
web browsing, and more. Uses partclone (like Clonezilla) with a UI like
Ghost or Acronis. Runs from CD/USB.

Beta Release:  Last Update: 2012-11-01  ver 1.0.3  214.1MB

http://sourceforge.net/projects/redobackup/

Stable Version: 1.0.3  Released 2012-05-15

Home:   http://redobackup.org/

No Installation Needed
Boots in Seconds
Works with Windows or Linux
Finds Network Shares
Access Your Files
Recover Lost Data
Easy Internet Access
Factory Drive Reset
Drive Configuration Tools

Complete Suite of Tools Included

In addition to the Redo Backup and Recovery imaging utility, the live
CD provides many essential GUI tools and command line utilities that
system administrators will find invaluable. Everyone from novices to
advanced power users are finding that Redo Backup makes life easier.

Once the iso is burned on to a cd, it's as easy as 1-2-3......

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 1:17 am
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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:17:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

Zo wrote:
> Easy rescue system with GUI tools for full system backup, bare metal
> recovery, partition editing, recovering deleted files, data protection,
> web browsing, and more. Uses partclone (like Clonezilla) with a UI like
> Ghost or Acronis. Runs from CD/USB.

> Beta Release:  Last Update: 2012-11-01  ver 1.0.3  214.1MB

> http://sourceforge.net/projects/redobackup/

Or here:

   http://redobackup.org/

> Stable Version: 1.0.3  Released 2012-05-15

> Home:   http://redobackup.org/

> No Installation Needed
> Boots in Seconds
> Works with Windows or Linux
> Finds Network Shares
> Access Your Files
> Recover Lost Data
> Easy Internet Access
> Factory Drive Reset
> Drive Configuration Tools

I guess my only question then would be (as usual) does it do incremental
cloning? Or at the least, incremental backup?

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 1:48 am
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 07:48:58 +0100
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

John Corliss from q34ws...@yahoo.com
posted Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:17:48 -0800

> I guess my only question then would be (as usual) does it do incremental
> cloning? Or at the least, incremental backup?

Are there incrementally cloning free programs ?

Idea is for sure great, but I am not sure
how much it is useful, if to be done on partition level
and not file system level.

If we take into account e.g. defragmentation,
making partition different, even if content remains the same....

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Of course there are.

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 11:22 am
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From: John Corliss <q34ws...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:22:15 -0800
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

Poutnik wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:

>> I guess my only question then would be (as usual) does it do incremental
>> cloning? Or at the least, incremental backup?

> Are there incrementally cloning free programs ?

> Idea is for sure great, but I am not sure
> how much it is useful, if to be done on partition level
> and not file system level.

> If we take into account e.g. defragmentation,
> making partition different, even if content remains the same....

XXCopy used to be able to do full incremental clones back in the W98 and
ME days. Then when MS switched to the NTFS file system in XP, it no
longer was able to do so completely (was unable to copy files which were
in use.) So Pixelab came up with XXClone which uses Windows VSS:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy

The free version of that program won't do incremental, but the $ware
version of it will.

I have two hard drives in my computer and I don't use RAID (although
this computer has that capability.) I much prefer to use XXCopy to clone
one drive onto another as a backup, but every once in a while I do a
full clone using the freeware version of XXClone.

It would be real nice if there was a freeware cloning program which used
VSS and could do incremental clones. However, that seems to be the holy
grail that programmers hold out on so that you'll pay for their
software. And I can't blame them for that either. Still, I can always
hope...

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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:51:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

John Corliss from q34ws...@yahoo.com
posted Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:22:15 -0800

> XXCopy used to be able to do full incremental clones back in the W98 and
> ME days. Then when MS switched to the NTFS file system in XP, it no
> longer was able to do so completely (was unable to copy files which were
> in use.) So Pixelab came up with XXClone which uses Windows VSS:

But it is cloning on FS level, i.e. not what I had in mind.
XXClobe I do not know, but with VSS is possible to make
partition sector cloning.

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 4:52 pm
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

Bear from bearbotto...@gmai.com
posted 20 Nov 2012 10:20:14 GMT

Well, I am aware there are, but quastion is how much
is this efficient.

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 5:10 pm
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:10:51 +0100
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

Poutnik from pout...@privacy.invalid
posted Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:52:49 +0100

In fact I had it installed but for some reasons
it did not impressed me so I returned to Macrium.

Either low comression,
Either slow compression speed
either overall lower performace
if differential backups.

Usualy there are some important features missing
in free versions, but for macrium it is not essential.

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 5:14 pm
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Bear from bearbotto...@gmai.com
posted 20 Nov 2012 10:20:14 GMT

seems doing differencial, not incremental backup.

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Date: 20 Nov 2012 22:54:02 GMT
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge
Poutnik <pout...@privacy.invalid> wrote in news:MPG.2b161a1f8f81f24db56
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Depends on what works for you eh!

I do not find the need to perform incremental backups. When I decide to
make a permanant change to my system, I load my last clean image and
make the changes and re-image.

In between that, all of my data files and portable programs with all
their settings are backed up daily to an external HD. When I reload my
last clean image to make new updates, I do so...make the updates and
resync my data and portable files to the new image. No need for
incremental.

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Date: 20 Nov 2012 22:54:36 GMT
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I agree.

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Poutnik <pout...@privacy.invalid> wrote in news:MPG.2b161f35e9904a40b59@news.eternal-september.org:

Differential and incremental backups are "smart" backups that save time
and disk space by only backing up changed files. But they differ
significantly in how they do it....

http://www.acronis.com/resource/solutions/backup/2005/incremental-bac...

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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

Bear from bearbotto...@gmai.com
posted 20 Nov 2012 22:54:02 GMT

> >> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/

> > Well, I am aware there are, but quastion is how much
> > is this efficient.

> Depends on what works for you eh!

> I do not find the need to perform incremental backups.

Neither I do.

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Bear from bearbotto...@gmai.com
posted 20 Nov 2012 22:57:50 GMT

> >> Of course there are.

> >> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/

> > seems doing differencial, not incremental backup.

> Differential and incremental backups are "smart" backups that save time
> and disk space by only backing up changed files. But they differ
> significantly in how they do it....

I suppose I need not to be told what they mean. :-)

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So you know the answer to your questions.

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and Macrium is my preferred choice. It is the best :)

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I do.

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THWERE IS NO BEST,ONLY WHAT YOU DECIDE AT ONE SPLIT SECOND IN ONE
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Bear from bearbotto...@gmai.com
posted 21 Nov 2012 01:34:46 GMT

If best is alias for
"It is the best choice for all according to Bear",
than yes.

But, by chance, it is my choice too.

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p-0'0-h the cat from super.p...@furryfreeware.invalid
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For single partitions scenario I fully understand such need.
For dedication system partition such solution can be less efficient.

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>For single partitions scenario I fully understand such need.
>For dedication system partition such solution can be less efficient.

Runs automatically in the background. Rarely notice it. I do file
backup, and use CVS as well.

There is no such thing as being too paranoid WRT backup.

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:24:24 -0800
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Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge

Poutnik wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:

>> XXCopy used to be able to do full incremental clones back in the W98 and
>> ME days. Then when MS switched to the NTFS file system in XP, it no
>> longer was able to do so completely (was unable to copy files which were
>> in use.) So Pixelab came up with XXClone which uses Windows VSS:

> But it is cloning on FS level, i.e. not what I had in mind.
> XXClobe I do not know, but with VSS is possible to make
> partition sector cloning.

That's why I mentioned this one a couple of days ago:

   http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm

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I was wondering if you were going to catch that.

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> But, by chance, it is my choice too.

So if you don't think it is the best, why wouldn't you use what you
determine is the best. There are actually three top programs worthy of
listing as the best in this category. The one with the most features has
usability issues the one with less features doesn't have. If the task is
purely full imaging, Macrium is the best. If you must have incremental
backup, Paragon is the best though beware, sometimes an image doesn't
restore.

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From: Bear <bearbotto...@gmai.com>
Date: 21 Nov 2012 13:03:49 GMT
Local: Wed, Nov 21 2012 8:03 am
Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Redo Backup and Recovery Beta at SourceForge
"p-0'0-h the cat" <super.p...@furryfreeware.invalid> wrote in
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Why?

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