Move over Fx, Chrome is coming
Bear Bottoms
<http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/02/in-just-16-months-chrome-overtakes-safari/>
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Bear Bottoms
Freeware website: http://bearware.info
occam
> In just 16 months Google Chrome overtakes Safari
>
> <http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/02/in-just-16-months-chrome-overtakes-safari/>
>
overtake FFx. That's how long it will take your fantasy to happen.
Bear Bottoms
news:hhqbc4$5kd$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
How is that? Fx has about 20% market share while IE has over 60%.
I think it more likely that Fx, Safari, and Opera users will shift to
Chrome just as much as IE users will. At any rate, we shall see.
What is more interesting to watch for me is the percentages reflect savy
users versus the non-savy. There are a lot of non-savy users out there
though the more savy are gaining ground from even just a few years ago.
More people are getting more savy...interesting concept.
Spamblk
news:b8i1k518m9gcoa56s...@4ax.com:
> Nothing like Google uniqueID's in your front yard.
According to
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/three_ways_to_enjoy_google_chrome_with
out_privacy_concerns.php
There are options to remove Chrome's unique ID if you want.
However for the time being I will remain with FF 3.5. The issue for me is
the availability of addons. Chrome will take some time to catch up in that
department. Meanwhile, I imagine Mozilla will be working at speeding up
their javascript engine.
blacky
news:hhqj80$q2e$1...@news.albasani.net:
> WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
> news:b8i1k518m9gcoa56s...@4ax.com:
>
>> Nothing like Google uniqueID's in your front yard.
>
>
> According to
> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/three_ways_to_enjoy_google_chr
> ome_with out_privacy_concerns.php
> There are options to remove Chrome's unique ID if you want.
>
> However for the time being I will remain with FF 3.5. The issue
> for me is the availability of addons. Chrome will take some time
> to catch up in that department. Meanwhile, I imagine Mozilla will
> be working at speeding up their javascript engine.
>
Beyond that, Chrome has had an issue since February 09 that they have
steadfastly refused to deal with. All sorts of users are getting
"resolving proxy" and/or "resolving host" slowdowns (and I mean
REALLY slow) and there are several supposed fixes for this issue
(none of which work for me or apparently for several others) though
they all have to do with other software or tweaks that shouldn't have
to be done to fix a *problem.*
Non-responsiveness like that engenders no confidence in me.
Bear Bottoms
news:b8i1k518m9gcoa56s...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:09:19 GMT, Bear Bottoms
> <REMOVEbea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>occam <oc...@127.0.0.1> wrote in
>>news:hhqbc4$5kd$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On 03/01/2010 15:44, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>> In just 16 months Google Chrome overtakes Safari
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/02/in-just-16-months-chrome-ov
>>>> er takes-safari/>
>>>>
>>> Chrome will first have to overtake IE by the time it is ready to
>>> overtake FFx. That's how long it will take your fantasy to happen.
>>>
>>
>>How is that? Fx has about 20% market share while IE has over 60%.
>>
>>I think it more likely that Fx, Safari, and Opera users will shift to
>>Chrome just as much as IE users will. At any rate, we shall see.
>>
>>What is more interesting to watch for me is the percentages reflect
>>savy users versus the non-savy. There are a lot of non-savy users out
>>there though the more savy are gaining ground from even just a few
>>years ago. More people are getting more savy...interesting concept.
>
> Nothing like Google uniqueID's in your front yard.
>
Unchrome it...simple as that.
Craig
> Nothing like Google uniqueID's in your front yard.
Nothing like a little Iron to clear that up:
<http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php>
fyi,
--
-Craig
Wheel
I promised Johnw not to waste his effort and gave it a spin.
I agree; of the 'Chrome' variants I've looked at, this is the
one to go for.
I've assumed true, so will recommend the portable version for
those where 'Chrome' satisfies.
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php
777777
Bear Bottoms
If you wish to use LastPass or third party extensions, you will need to
use the Beta version of Chrome, until they are satisfied with the
development and move it to the next update.
Craig
> In just 16 months Google Chrome overtakes Safari
>
> <http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/02/in-just-16-months-chrome-overtakes-safari/>
>
Been running Iron[*] from a flash drive via Ubuntu 9.04 for the last
several minutes. It loads & runs pretty damned quickly.
fyi,
--
-Craig
*<http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1031>
bay...@gmail.com
Exactly!!
Bear Bottoms
news:lnr3k5125k725jqdt...@4ax.com:
> I understand how to stop it. The Google invasiveness
> was my point.
Hey, what should Chrome look like? Happening to you doesn't mean it happens
to everyone. My advice to you is to live with it.
Bear Bottoms
news:lnr3k5125k725jqdt...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:06:39 -0800, Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I understand how to stop it. The Google invasiveness
> was my point.
>
>
It isn't invasive. You must be a very left wing liberal. Capitalism is
bad eh! If you have a wire connected to the Internet, your information is
already out there. Google puts it to good use.
occam
> occam<oc...@127.0.0.1> wrote in
> news:hhqbc4$5kd$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 03/01/2010 15:44, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> In just 16 months Google Chrome overtakes Safari
>>>
>>> <http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/02/in-just-16-months-chrome-over
>>> takes-safari/>
>>>
>> Chrome will first have to overtake IE by the time it is ready to
>> overtake FFx. That's how long it will take your fantasy to happen.
>>
>
> How is that? Fx has about 20% market share while IE has over 60%.
"IE has over 60%" is a misleading stat. It includes 14% of IE5 users, a
browser which no one in their right mind would use. By the way, have a
look at this article
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/12/22/firefox-35-surpasses-ie7-market-share
You will see that overall IE share is more like 54% (not 60%). The only
hope for IE is IE8, which is currently less used than FF3.5 (but rising).
As for Chrome, I'll let the black line ('other') tell its own story.
>
Bear Bottoms
news:hhtvh0$leu$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> On 03/01/2010 16:09, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>> occam<oc...@127.0.0.1> wrote in
>> news:hhqbc4$5kd$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On 03/01/2010 15:44, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>> In just 16 months Google Chrome overtakes Safari
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/02/in-just-16-months-chrome-ov
>>>> er takes-safari/>
>>>>
>>> Chrome will first have to overtake IE by the time it is ready to
>>> overtake FFx. That's how long it will take your fantasy to happen.
>>>
>>
>> How is that? Fx has about 20% market share while IE has over 60%.
>
> "IE has over 60%" is a misleading stat. It includes 14% of IE5 users,
> a browser which no one in their right mind would use. By the way, have
> a look at this article
>
> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/12/22/firefox-35-surpasses-ie7-marke
> t-share
>
> You will see that overall IE share is more like 54% (not 60%). The
> only hope for IE is IE8, which is currently less used than FF3.5 (but
> rising).
>
> As for Chrome, I'll let the black line ('other') tell its own story.
>
>
I dunno, Chrome has only been out for about a year and is rising in
popularity very fast. Since no one knows what will happen, we will just
have to witness the events as they unfold.
I really like Chrome much more than Opera or Fx but my criteria for a
browser is speed and simplicity. I do want one third party extension
which is LastPass which is best used when integrated with the browser,
but that is the only one. I find very good if not better alternatives to
extensions.
Others opinions are different naturally.
VanguardLH
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> How is that? Fx has about 20% market share while IE has over 60%.
>
> "IE has over 60%" is a misleading stat. It includes 14% of IE5 users, a
> browser which no one in their right mind would use. By the way, have a
> look at this article
>
> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/12/22/firefox-35-surpasses-ie7-market-share
>
> You will see that overall IE share is more like 54% (not 60%). The only
> hope for IE is IE8, which is currently less used than FF3.5 (but rising).
>
> As for Chrome, I'll let the black line ('other') tell its own story.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
The drop for IE is due to problems encountered with version 8. Many users
have decided to abandon IE8 and move to something else. I still use IE8 but
I do have Chrome as a backup.
IE5 was *not* included in statistics since June 2008 because since then less
than 0.5% of users were found to still be using it. I haven't a clue where
you got a value of 14%. The W3 stats don't show that high a usage of IE5
since March 2004 (over 5-1/2 years ago). The article you mentioned doesn't
even track usage of IE5.x.
As of November 2009, IE was 37.7% (versions 6 to 8) of the web browser
market. According to the article you mentioned, IE was 55%. It depends on
who and where the statistic are being gathered. There is a bias of users
depending on the site(s) being visited. That is, the type of site being
visited will effect what web browser is used. To show just an example of
variance in this measure, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
I've seen some stats that incorporate measurements from worldwide mesh of
data centers over all types of web sites show that IE is 80% of the market.
Who you cite depends on what is your particular bias.
According to the W3 stats, Chrome has been gaining 0.5% each month for the
last year. This is contrast to Firefox, Safari, and Opera whose growth has
been flat. I suspect now that extensions are allowed that growth will be
faster. Users like configurability which was something that Chrome lacked.
VanguardLH
> I really like Chrome much more than Opera or Fx but my criteria for a
> browser is speed and simplicity. I do want one third party extension
> which is LastPass which is best used when integrated with the browser,
> but that is the only one. I find very good if not better alternatives to
> extensions.
According to a Chrome forum response, they were waiting until Google added
extension support to their Chrome web browser. Extension support has now
been added; see:
http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/getstarted.html
http://www.chromeplugins.org/category/extensions/
As a consequence, look at the following for a LastPass extension:
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/hdokiejnpimakedhajhdlcegeplioahd
The lack of configurability was a hinderance to the acceptance of Chrome.
Franklin
What a shame two good browsers like Opera and Safari don't have better market
share.
Franklin
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 20:56:14 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>According to the W3 stats, Chrome has been gaining 0.5% each month for the
>>last year.
>
>
> Lemme see, 0.5% of 100 is 5.
>
> I find it ood that people will tout a browser they use a third party
> program on to cripple it and think that's just peachy.
Typo? You may have meant to say 0.5% of 100 is 0.5
occam
> occam wrote:
>
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> How is that? Fx has about 20% market share while IE has over 60%.
>>
>> "IE has over 60%" is a misleading stat. It includes 14% of IE5 users, a
>> browser which no one in their right mind would use. By the way, have a
>> look at this article
>>
>
> IE5 was *not* included in statistics since June 2008 because since then less
> than 0.5% of users were found to still be using it. I haven't a clue where
> you got a value of 14%.
You're quite right. It should say "14% of IE6 users" (not IE5). Sill a
crap browser that even MS is keen to distance itself from.
Bear Bottoms
news:n208k5hnb07d4679k...@4ax.com:
> Left wing?
>
> Man, I'm the antithesis of that.
>
> If you think Google puts the information to "good use", you're the one
> that's an all things Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
>
Obama, Pelosi and Reid will ruin America and all it stood for. Google has
done nothing to harm me.
BB
BB
Who in their right mind would trust their passwords to an online third
party? You must be stupid.
anon
> Obama, Pelosi and Reid will ruin America and all it stood for. Google has
> done nothing to harm me. I still have my capitalistic made drug money.
Of course. God Bless Americolumbia
Guillaume Le Stubb
> The only reson IE8 is being used at all is the force feeding from MS
> updates.
IE8 is my browser of choice. Really good if you use corporate applications,
like OWA for example. On Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008, it uses protected
mode to run applications within the browser at a lower integrity level, and
I think it renders the best of all browsers. Class.
I do use Firefox on occasion. Mainly when I need to use an extension. Class
act too.
I think Chrome has a very long way to go to be remotely interesting. I
can't see it's even in the class of either Safari or Opera at present.
--
da KAT
N4469P
*snort*
Guillaume Le Stubb
> 'Guillaume Le Stubb' wrote thus:
>
>>IE8 is my browser of choice.
>
>
> You use Opera v9.80.
Ha. Trying to exclude IP's now by user-agent. Pathetic. Go swivel.
--
za KAT
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> 'Guillaume Le Stubb' wrote thus:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:40:40 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> 'Guillaume Le Stubb' wrote thus:
>>>
>>>>IE8 is my browser of choice.
>>>
>>>
>>> You use Opera v9.80.
>>
>>Ha. Trying to exclude IP's now by user-agent. Pathetic. Go swivel.
>
> <http://aracari.redirectme.net:8080/Images/stubbings_log.jpg>
>
> LOL.
Fascinating I'm sure hummy. Fact is numpty, I wouldn't browse your site
direct. So dream on. You haven't blocked all the world's proxies. Although
you tried. Ha! Clueless.
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da KAT
za kAT
> Eh? The only proxies which are blocked are those which have been
> abused by Franklin (he uploaded a piece of malware) and where you
> OR him attempted to cause a DoS crash, but failed.
You are a complete cretin. wtf is a DoS crash? If you mean a denial of
service attack, then please explain what the point would be of setting that
up to temporarily block a shitty 8MB pipe for a few hours.
Have you any idea what you are talking about? It's not something you can do
on a wet Sunday afternoon anymore.
> hummingbirds are smarter than kats :-)
That should read 'more deluded'
> Like I've said before I don't give a rat's ass what other peoples'
> IP's are. The only people on ACF who are obsessed with them are
> Franklin and 2-3 others ... all PWH Cultists.
Well all the evidence sure supports that :) You are sick in the head dummy,
really. You need help. You don't want to spend the rest of your life like
this.
>>Clueless.
>
> Yes you are <shrug>.
>
> Now off you go and respond to my challenge to you to explain how
> your IP appeared in those forgeries. hehe.
>
> I'm sure a World Expert on Computers can do that. hehe.
Not /even/ the 'World Expert on Computers' can prove a false premise.
Now the evidence? Got any? Even if there was, you really don't have the
brains to present it, do you dummy.
--
da KAT
Zombie Elvis
<Bloc...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote in
>news:b8i1k518m9gcoa56s...@4ax.com:
>
>> Nothing like Google uniqueID's in your front yard.
>
>
>According to
>http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/three_ways_to_enjoy_google_chrome_with
>out_privacy_concerns.php
>There are options to remove Chrome's unique ID if you want.
>
>However for the time being I will remain with FF 3.5. The issue for me is
>the availability of addons. Chrome will take some time to catch up in that
>department. Meanwhile, I imagine Mozilla will be working at speeding up
>their javascript engine.
I think that Chrome has already caught up in many ways in terms of
add-ons. The Chrome 4.x betas already support extensions and unlike
Firefox, Chrome remains fairly speedy even with a large number of
extensions installed. I have been running both Chrome and Firefox side
by side on my home laptop where I can sit down and relax and not worry
about speed. But on the road on my netbook, while I do have Firefox
installed, I basically just run Chrome all the time because it starts
up so much more quickly.
--
Obama: Hey Ballmer, you mind if we borrow 90% of the world's computers for a quick cyber war?
Ballmer: Finally, the moment I've been waiting for! *Throws ceremonial war chair at wall*
- Seen on Slashdot
Roberto Castillo
roberto...@ameritech.net
http://mind-grapes.blogspot.com/
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