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Richard Huber

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Jan 16, 2005, 3:36:09 PM1/16/05
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Hi Newsgroup,

does anyone know a Freeware-Backup-program like
Norton Ghost?

cu

richard

Frank Steinmetz

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Jan 16, 2005, 6:25:42 PM1/16/05
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:36:09 +0100, Richard Huber
<rush...@yahoo.de> wrote:

>Hi Newsgroup,
>
>does anyone know a Freeware-Backup-program like
>Norton Ghost?

Maybe not exactly what you are looking for (because it's not
freeware) but there have been copies of Acronis TrueImage on several
CDs in different computer magazines in 2004 (c't, PC Welt, ...).

HTH
-frank

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Karen

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:14:16 PM1/16/05
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"Richard Huber" <rush...@yahoo.de> wrote in message
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> Hi Newsgroup,
>
> does anyone know a Freeware-Backup-program like
> Norton Ghost?
========================
I've also been looking for something like Norton Ghost. I priced it today
at CompUSA and it's $99.00. That included Disk Partition which we are not
interested in. I'll keep looking....

Karen........

jmatt

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Jan 17, 2005, 12:51:09 AM1/17/05
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Have a look at these .

Clone maxx
http://www.pcinspector.de/clone-maxx/uk/welcome.htm
PC INSPECTOR≥ clone maxx is the new professional hard drive copying
program from CONVAR. Using the new direct DMA support, data can be
copied from hard drives in high speed mode with speeds up to 3.3 GB
per minute.

================================

DrvClonerXP
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?12500000037740
DrvClonerXP clones NTFS and FAT32 drive partitions, for the Windows
2000/XP operating systems, by copying, byte-for-byte, the drive
partition's structure to another partition, creating a perfect
duplicate, without creating an intermediate image file (as with
DrvImagerXP). Requires Windows 2000 or XP.

=================================

X-Clone
http://www.activedwg.com/Download_Links.htm
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?url_fb_product_page=33313
http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils5.html
XCLONE is a program that can migrate your operating system to a new
larger hard drive. It copies entire drives or directory trees
preserving long file names, attributes and time stamps. DOS,
Windows 3x, Windows 9x and Windows NT supported.

===================================

ImageCast
http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils3.html
ImageCast LE Clone up to three computers' drives with this new
multicasting technology that uses familiar TCP/IP protocols to cast
an image from one machine to another. ImageCast can clone Windows
95, 98, and NT setups, as well as Netware and UNIX, and you can
provide customization
after the cloning process for your own specific needs.
Register this freeware version online in order to receive the Windows
controller file by e-mail.

======================================

Clone
http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils1.html
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win95/diskutl/clone.zip
It is designed to copy every file (no matter what!) from one
directory to another. The source and destination can be either a
floppy, hard disk, CDROM, or network drive. It runs from the MSDOS
real mode and is small enough to fit on the "network boot diskette".

================================

DrvImagerXP
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Recovery/DrvImagerXP.shtml
DrvImagerXP creates and restores drive images of FAT32 and NTFS
partitions for the Windows2000/XP operating systems.
It makes backups of your partitions, but does not copy file-by-file,
it doesn't know anything about files!. It creates a mirror image
(but not reversed) of a partition by coping the sector bytes on the
partition. And it does this very fast! You can create images of
different operating system setups and swap them out in just minutes!
* Posted via http://www.sixfiles.com/forum

dg1261

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Jan 17, 2005, 6:06:08 PM1/17/05
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"Richard Huber" <rush...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> does anyone know a Freeware-Backup-program like
> Norton Ghost?

How about Savepart (http://www.partition-saving.com/)?

Some of the terminology takes a bit of getting used to (e.g., partitions =
"elements"), but i gave it a quick test recently on a NTFS XP-SP2 partition
and it worked fine. It works from DOS, not from within Windows, but I don't
think you'll find anything freeware that works from Windows. Besides,
imaging from DOS is far safer than working from within Windows. Trying to
image a Windows partition while you're booted into it is a bit like changing
a flat tire while you're still driving down the road. All the Windows-based
imagers have to add a whole lot of overhead just to do what is a
(relatively) simple task from DOS.


Karen

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Jan 17, 2005, 9:48:22 PM1/17/05
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"dg1261" <dg1261...@cs.com> wrote in message
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===========================
Not everyone knows DOS. DOS is meaningless to those of us who started with
W95 or 98.

Karen....

badgolferman

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Jan 17, 2005, 10:20:57 PM1/17/05
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You don't have to know DOS to use a DOS-based cloning program. Most of them
do have a GUI for you to use. The point of the DOS-based cloners is you can
restore when your Windows OS has crapped out and you can't even boot. These
cloners have their own operating system that lets you restore the image you
have created. I agree that Windows-based imaging programs are only good for
backing up. Even they have a DOS environment for restoring, don't they?


Mike Andrade

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Jan 17, 2005, 10:30:29 PM1/17/05
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"Karen" <P@P> wrote in news:B_mdnc70aq9...@heartoftn.net:

> Not everyone knows DOS. DOS is meaningless to those of us who
> started with W95 or 98.
>

That is truly sad. What do you think /runs/ Windows 95 and 98?

--
Mike
Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.
- G.K. Chesterton

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badgolferman

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Jan 18, 2005, 7:56:12 AM1/18/05
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Duddits wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:20:57 -0500, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Not everyone knows DOS. DOS is meaningless to those of us who
>>> started with W95 or 98.
>>>
>>> Karen....
>>
>> You don't have to know DOS to use a DOS-based cloning program. Most
>> of them do have a GUI for you to use. The point of the DOS-based
>> cloners is you can restore when your Windows OS has crapped out and
>> you can't even boot. These cloners have their own operating system
>> that lets you restore the image you have created. I agree that
>> Windows-based imaging programs are only good for backing up. Even
>> they have a DOS environment for restoring, don't they?
>>
>
> Acronis TrueImage uses Linux to while restoring.
>
> regards
>
> Dud

Linux??? What's that....?!?!?!


Karen

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Jan 18, 2005, 2:22:06 PM1/18/05
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"Mike Andrade" <m...@box.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Karen" <P@P> wrote in news:B_mdnc70aq9...@heartoftn.net:
>
> > Not everyone knows DOS. DOS is meaningless to those of us who
> > started with W95 or 98.
> >
> That is truly sad. What do you think /runs/ Windows 95 and 98?
=============================
We know that, but we used the Windows part, not the DOS screen. Where would
we learn DOS? Now it's WXP which is a whole different system as I
understand it.

Karen....

Karen

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Jan 18, 2005, 2:22:42 PM1/18/05
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"Duddits" <Dud...@Dreamcatcher.com> wrote in message
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>
> Acronis TrueImage uses Linux to while restoring.
=======================
Linux?

Karen....

Karen

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Jan 18, 2005, 2:24:11 PM1/18/05
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A DOS based environment for W-XP?

Karen....

Karen

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Jan 18, 2005, 2:26:06 PM1/18/05
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"jmatt" <jm...@webace.com-dot-au.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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Thanks.... gonna check them out! :-)

Karen........

badgolferman

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Jan 18, 2005, 2:46:42 PM1/18/05
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DOS before XP. The computer boots up with floppy disks or CD that is
preloaded with a version of DOS. Windows is never used during the
restore function. The computer does not boot into Windows.


Mike Andrade

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Jan 18, 2005, 2:47:34 PM1/18/05
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"Karen" <P@P> wrote in news:lMSdnfpwpd5...@heartoftn.net:

>
> "Mike Andrade" <m...@box.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns95E1E56B07E...@216.77.188.18...
>> "Karen" <P@P> wrote in news:B_mdnc70aq9...@heartoftn.net:
>>
>> > Not everyone knows DOS. DOS is meaningless to those of us who
>> > started with W95 or 98.
>> >
>> That is truly sad. What do you think /runs/ Windows 95 and 98?
> =============================
> We know that, but we used the Windows part, not the DOS screen.
> Where would we learn DOS?

Forget it.

--
Mike
The wise man learns more from his enemies than a fool does from his
friends. - Chinese Proverb

Karen

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Jan 18, 2005, 3:02:06 PM1/18/05
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"jmatt" <jm...@webace.com-dot-au.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:u1105...@aknode.invalid...
> Have a look at these .
>
> Clone maxx
> http://www.pcinspector.de/clone-maxx/uk/welcome.htm <--THIS ONE IS IN
GERMAN (?)
> PC INSPECTOR≥ >
> ================================
>
> DrvClonerXP
> http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?12500000037740 <--NOTHING TO DOWNLOAD.
TAKES YOU TO ADSERVER.

> DrvClonerXP clones NTFS and FAT32 drive partitions, >
=================================

> X-Clone
> http://www.activedwg.com/Download_Links.htm <--- NOT FOR WXP.
> http://www.simtel.net/product.php?url_fb_product_page=33313 <---NOTHING
THERE TO BACKUP SYSTEM FILES.
> http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils5.html <-- NOTHING THAT BACKS UP
SYSTEM FILES WXP
> ===================================

> ImageCast
> http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils3.html <--NOTHING TO DO IT EITHER-
looks like older programs up to 2000. Doesn't back up system files like
Ghost. Clones to new HD.
> ======================================
>
> Clone
> http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/WinUtils1.html <--- COULD NOT LOCATE IT
THERE (for XP).
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win95/diskutl/clone.zip
> ================================
>
> DrvImagerXP
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Recovery/DrvImagerXP.shtml
<--DOES PARTITIONS. What is a partition? My HP came with a C: and a D:
Recovery drive. Which is saved? Not much info there for the product that's
helpful to someone new to this. Does it do a "system" files restore like
Norton Ghost in the case of a crash so you don't have to spend hours getting
everything back to normal? It doesn't say....

Karen.........


Helen

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Jan 18, 2005, 6:10:20 PM1/18/05
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Chrissy Cruiser

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Jan 18, 2005, 7:07:47 PM1/18/05
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:10:20 -0500, Helen wrote:

Very nice, Helen. The boy (Andrade the KMeleon tweeb) were treating her
rudely.

Maris V. Lidaka Sr.

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Jan 18, 2005, 10:59:42 PM1/18/05
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A UNIX-based OS, available as both freeware and pre-packaged and sold.
GUI's are available for it as freeware as well. Much more secure than
Windows.

Maris

Karen

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Jan 19, 2005, 12:37:38 AM1/19/05
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"Helen" <ab...@roman.gov> wrote in message
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===================
Thanks a lot Helen! :o)

Karen......

jmatt

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Jan 19, 2005, 3:38:08 AM1/19/05
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Karen , shall cover your points , if you want live links , you can
view this post & others here .
http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/download-backup-programm-like-norton-ghost-11665.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

==============================

Clone maxx
http://www.pcinspector.de/clone-maxx/uk/welcome.htm <--THIS ONE IS
IN
GERMAN (?)

Up the top left hand side , select English .
Click on Download , click on Accept & choose clone maxx

=======================================

DrvClonerXP
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?12500000037740 <--NOTHING TO
DOWNLOAD.
TAKES YOU TO ADSERVER.

Up the top it says please wait , eventually the ads go & you get
the choice of saving the program .

=========================================

Here is some reading re Norton Ghost , being new , your head will be
spinning for a while , remember to use Google often . Example , put
the word > partioning < in and read up .

Tools.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bluez/datatalk/tools1.htm

http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/features.html

http://ghost.radified.com/ghost_1.htm

=======================================

You may be better off using something that backs up to CDR or CDRW ,
I personally use a 2nd hard drive .

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/mobv21.html

http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp

===========================================

Keep in mind , XP has System Restore .

Use System Restore for Problems > XP Home
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/gethelp/systemrestore.asp

Taking Advantage of Windows XP's System Restore
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=101189
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=101189&seqNum=2
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=101189&seqNum=3
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=101189&seqNum=4
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=101189&seqNum=5
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=101189&seqNum=6

Try going back to a good Restore point
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306084
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/itpro/managing/restore.asp
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q306084
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6268-1040596.html
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6268-1040596-2.html
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6268-1040596-3.html

System Restore (It could save your ass!) ;)
http://tweak.us/xp4.html

jmatt

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Jan 19, 2005, 3:57:09 AM1/19/05
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Opp's , spelling mistake .

Example , put the word > partioning < in and read up .

Should be > partitioning

badgolferman

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Jan 19, 2005, 6:56:04 AM1/19/05
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Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote:
> A UNIX-based OS, available as both freeware and pre-packaged and sold.
> GUI's are available for it as freeware as well. Much more secure than
> Windows.
>

Yes, I know. I was being facetious. I have a daily battle of wits with
co-workers who use Linux for real-time operations. My point was how so few
consumers use it and how few applications are available for it. At least it
is more popular than Macintosh.


Peter Wilkins

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Jan 19, 2005, 4:48:58 PM1/19/05
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:56:04 -0500, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote :

Macintosh? What's that?
I thought it was something you wore in the rain.....

--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins

badgolferman

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Jan 19, 2005, 8:26:01 PM1/19/05
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No. Macintosh is some sort of apple. I'm told it tastes like chicken....


Richard Steven Hack

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Jan 22, 2005, 1:35:49 AM1/22/05
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:33:25 -0500, Duddits <Dud...@Dreamcatcher.com>
wrote:

>Acronis TrueImage uses Linux to while restoring.

However, NOT freeware - $50.

Partimage OTOH IS freeware. Probably available on most distros. One
caveat with it, however, it can only backup NTFS partitions if the
file system is not fragmented or compressed.


--
Richard Steven Hack
"Whatever does not kill me makes me stronger" -
and YOU have not killed me!

sz...@abuse.co.uk

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:06:01 AM1/23/05
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Ntfsclone is also available on most freeware distros. It can backup any
NTFS safely, even if it's fragmented or compressed.

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