Avira and Ask toolbar
Shadow
There is no way I can get rid of the nag screen to install the
toolbar (appears at every boot), so I'll either have to do some more
registry hacking or go to Avast .... uggh
I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
uninstall the bloody thing.
[]'s
Man-wai Chang
> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
> uninstall the bloody thing.
Avira is basically payware. Sad to see its free version to become adware.
Did you untick all the checkboxes when it asked you to install the Ask
Toolbar?
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Shadow
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
>> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
>> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
>> uninstall the bloody thing.
>
>Avira is basically payware. Sad to see its free version to become adware.
>
>Did you untick all the checkboxes when it asked you to install the Ask
>Toolbar?
It does not ask, at least in my case, which was an automatic
update.
This hack seems to have buggered the nag:
..............................................................................
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\0\Paths]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\0\Paths\{627bd220-820b-43f7-bf3f-45f21d00efe5}]
"Description"=""
"SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
"ItemData"="C:\\Program Files\\Avira\\AntiVir Desktop\\ApnStub.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\0\Paths\{8dd552b7-edcd-474c-81fd-d2aca32e0da3}]
"Description"=""
"SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
"ItemData"="C:\\Program Files\\Avira\\AntiVir
Desktop\\ApnToolbarInstaller.exe"
.............................................................
Change the path to the executables ApnToolbarInstaller.exe and
ApnStub.exe, to whatever they are in your language.
Beware wrap.
FWIW. Only tested 3 reboots so far ....
[]'s
gaz
I dont understand, are you getting this on the standard avira free av
install? Or is it one of their extras?
David H. Lipman
The standard fee license expires in September. If you download the software update you
are extended to November 2012 with a catch. From the System Tray Avira pop-ups a
notification of a search bar install as a new feature. That installs Ask Toolbar and to
use the Webguard feature of Avira you have to enable Ask Toolbar.
I just closed the System Tray Avira pop-up notification and it did not install and on my
WinXP pro desktop I denied the execution of "ApnStub.exe" and "ApnToolbarInstaller.exe"
via SECPOL.MSC.
On my Vista Business notebook it required a reboot. I closed the System Tray Avira pop-up
notification and it did not install as well as I denied the execution of "ApnStub.exe" and
"ApnToolbarInstaller.exe" via SECPOL.MSC. Vista shows there is a Webguard that is
disabled because Ask Toolbar isn't installed and I went into the configuration and
specifically unchecked the box to load Webguard.
All this is PITA and Avira will feel the backlash when thye lose customers.
My POC at Avira could only state "Alas, I am not allowed to comment on this."
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David H. Lipman
Sorry...
That should have been "The standard _free_ license expires in September. "
Man-wai Chang
>> Toolbar?
> It does not ask, at least in my case, which was an automatic
> update.
No Custom Install option?
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Shadow
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Did you untick all the checkboxes when it asked you to install the Ask
>>> Toolbar?
>> It does not ask, at least in my case, which was an automatic
>> update.
>
>No Custom Install option?
Dunno about a first install. Mine was just an update, and no
options were presented.
[]'s
PS David's hack with the security policy is the same as my
registry hack, just different ways to get the job done.
Man-wai Chang
> options were presented.
That may be the reason. Try a clean install.
(I am downloading it now... :)
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Man-wai Chang
>
> (I am downloading it now... :)
>
There is a Custom option if you do a clean install.
Did you download your Avira from official website
http://www.free-av.com ? I hope you did NOT download
a hacked one! :)
Man-wai Chang
I don't see any option to turn off Ask Toolbar. So ... oh no...
There is a funny comment: Avira once listed Ask Toolbar as malware. :)
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David H. Lipman
< snip >
> PS David's hack with the security policy is the same as my
> registry hack, just different ways to get the job done.
>
Interestingly...
If you use SecPol.MSC to create the disallow execution policies you'll see it in the
Registry.
Export the disallow execution policies from the Registry to a .REG file and the delete the
entries, then merge the REG file back intio the Registry you will see the disallow
execution policies.
However, when you go back into SecPol.MSC you will not see those policies you imported
from the REG file.
gaz
I just prompted an update and sure enough their 'new security' shit popped
up. It gave me the option of install now or install later, the question is,
how often is it going to ask us to install it?
Bill Bradshaw
XPMode and it seems to get rid of the nag screen.
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Sir_George
I use Avira, the paid version, and have no problem. Perhaps the
proverbial statement "You get what you pay for" applies in this case;
ie, no nag screen and no "Ask" toolbar.
It puzzles me when people use a free version of a product and then
complain when there is a "string" attached, such as a nag screen...not
so sure about installing a hidden toolbar without notification being in
the same league, however.
None the less, I don't mind paying for any useful and well written
software. Just my point of view.
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David H. Lipman
> Please do not x-post to non-freeware groups.
>
> Yrrah
It was cross-posted alt.comp.virus AND alt.comp.anti-virus with a.c.f
Totally On Topic for all groups posted to and appropriate content for all.
David H. Lipman
> On 28 Jun 2011 19:36:13 GMT, "Sir_George" <Sir_G...@invalid.com>
> Avira will not update today.
It did on two computers of mine with no problems noted.
Bear Bottoms
email.me:
> Avira is basically payware. Sad to see its free version to become adware.
It's always been adware.
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Sofa Slug
> Block AskStub in your firewall and see if that will help. I tried it in
> XPMode and it seems to get rid of the nag screen.
That worked for me, too. If you are running XP's firewall, it's an easy
fix. I wrote up a little procedure for it:
1)Go to Start > Control Panel > Windows Firewall.
2)Click on the "Exceptions" tab, then the "Add Program..." button.
3)Browse to the Avira > AntiVir Desktop folder and click on
"ApnStub.exe", then click OK.
4)Go back to the Exceptions tab and you should see ApnStub.exe added
with a check box next to it. Uncheck the box and click OK.
David H. Lipman
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>:
>
>> It was cross-posted alt.comp.virus AND alt.comp.anti-virus with a.c.f
>> Totally On Topic for all groups posted to and appropriate content for all.
>
> Non-freeware groups. He should not have x-posted.
>
> Yrrah
The product is in the genre of anti virus and was posted in anti virus related news groups
where the subject matter is important and apropos.
Shadow did no wrong and should not be chastised for cross posting to pertinent, On Topic,
news groups.
Dustin
news:iue1a...@news6.newsguy.com:
> From: "Yrrah" <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
>
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>:
>>
>>> It was cross-posted alt.comp.virus AND alt.comp.anti-virus with
>>> a.c.f Totally On Topic for all groups posted to and appropriate
>>> content for all.
>>
>> Non-freeware groups. He should not have x-posted.
>>
>> Yrrah
>
> The product is in the genre of anti virus and was posted in anti
> virus related news groups where the subject matter is important and
> apropos.
>
> Shadow did no wrong and should not be chastised for cross posting to
> pertinent, On Topic, news groups.
IAWTP
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Nicetameetya
[Default] On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:18:43 GMT, Dustin
<bughunte...@gmail.com> told us in complete confidence:
>"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
>news:iue1a...@news6.newsguy.com:
>
>> From: "Yrrah" <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
>>
>>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>:
>>>
>>>> It was cross-posted alt.comp.virus AND alt.comp.anti-virus with
>>>> a.c.f Totally On Topic for all groups posted to and appropriate
>>>> content for all.
>>>
>>> Non-freeware groups. He should not have x-posted.
>>>
>>> Yrrah
>>
>> The product is in the genre of anti virus and was posted in anti
>> virus related news groups where the subject matter is important and
>> apropos.
>>
>> Shadow did no wrong and should not be chastised for cross posting to
>> pertinent, On Topic, news groups.
>
>IAWTP
Yo tambien.
FromTheRafters
> "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
> news:iue1a...@news6.newsguy.com:
>
>> From: "Yrrah"<Yrra...@acf.invalid>
>>
>>> "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>:
>>>
>>>> It was cross-posted alt.comp.virus AND alt.comp.anti-virus with
>>>> a.c.f Totally On Topic for all groups posted to and appropriate
>>>> content for all.
>>>
>>> Non-freeware groups. He should not have x-posted.
>>>
>>> Yrrah
>>
>> The product is in the genre of anti virus and was posted in anti
>> virus related news groups where the subject matter is important and
>> apropos.
>>
>> Shadow did no wrong and should not be chastised for cross posting to
>> pertinent, On Topic, news groups.
>
> IAWTP
Technically, does AntiVir Free version qualify as freeware? It seems to
me that it is ad supported software (adware). Of course that's no bar to
it being on-topic in the freeware group as I'm sure there are a lot of
"free, but for a price" freeware offerings out there. :o)
Yuhler G
I use Diamond CS Process Guard (v2.0 and v3.5, both free) and it spots three
new executables after a normal AntiVir on-line update: avhlp.exe which calls
ApnStub.exe. I granted execution of avhlp.exe but had ApnStub.exe blocked.
ApnToolbarInstaller.exe was not executed (probably because of blocked
ApnStub.exe). After that, the only drawback is the "closed umbrella icon" due
to nonoperational WebGuard.
I heard Ask.com was closing its business but looks like they will annoy us a
bit longer. Alas, the joint-venture they made with Avira may finally throw me
on Avast's arms. :(
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Due to spam I'm filtering-out GoogleGroups. Sorry. :(
Ron May
wrote:
Eu tamb�m
(I didn't see the OP until others commented because I block messages that
are crossposted to more than 2 groups. It was an important post, and I
thank those who called attention to it. IMHO, it WAS on topic to all the
original groups.)
FYI, It just became an issue for me this evening when my PCTools firewall
generated a popup alert about "AskStub Application" wanting to access the
internet. It gave the path as C:\Secure\Avira\Antivir Desktop\Apnstub.exe
on my non-default setup location and I blocked the application. The update
apparently took place, and after two reboots, there has been no nag screen
to install the Ask (Avira) toolbar. The only side effect AFAICT is that
Web Guard is disabled. No big deal for me, as I don't rely on that type of
service anyway. I will follow develoopments closely, and may switch back
to Avast! which has been much improved since the V4.x I last used on Vista.
On my wife's XP setup, V6.0.1091 has been working great.
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G. Morgan
>Technically, does AntiVir Free version qualify as freeware? It seems to
>me that it is ad supported software (adware). Of course that's no bar to
>it being on-topic in the freeware group as I'm sure there are a lot of
>"free, but for a price" freeware offerings out there. :o)
It only advertises itself though, I can deal with that.
When I can't <grin>, I have a little .reg file to make a local path
policy that disallows"avnotify.exe" to execute.
Man-wai Chang
> It's always been adware.
No. It's not a few years ago.
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John Corliss
> Dustin wrote:
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> Yrrah wrote:
>>>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> a.c.f Totally On Topic for all groups posted to and appropriate
>>>>> content for all.
>>>>
>>>> Non-freeware groups. He should not have x-posted.
>>>
>>> virus related news groups where the subject matter is important and
>>> apropos.
>>>
>>> Shadow did no wrong and should not be chastised for cross posting to
>>> pertinent, On Topic, news groups.
>>
>> IAWTP
>
> Technically, does AntiVir Free version qualify as freeware? It seems to
> me that it is ad supported software (adware). Of course that's no bar to
> it being on-topic in the freeware group as I'm sure there are a lot of
> "free, but for a price" freeware offerings out there. :o)
Adware is NOT freeware and thus it is off topic in the alt.comp.freeware
newsgroup.
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spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
Freeware is legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.
Because of Googlespam, I block almost everything from Google Groups. I
also block as much as possible from anonymous remailers, feeds and other
such services because forger-trolls use them:
aioe.org
alt.net [Altopia]
dizum.com
ecn.org
frell.theremailer.net
glorb.com
mixmaster.*
open-news-network.org
rip.ax.lt
tioat.net
usenet4all.se
x-privat.org
etc. (as they appear)
Ron May
wrote:
> Adware is NOT freeware and thus it is off topic in the alt.comp.freeware
> newsgroup.
From the Pricelessware Glossary:
"Adware: software that displays advertising for other products and/or
services (often downloaded from the internet by the software)."
I haven't seen an "ad" yet on my installation, but as I said elsewhere,
I'll be following developments closely.
As far as bundling goes, I don't like it, but several Pricelessware
selections (e.g., Irfanview) have offered to install unrelated software
during the main installation process. As long as the opt-out is obvious
(and not "buried" in a way that a quick-clicking user might miss) I'll live
with it. YMMV.
Man-wai Chang
> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
> uninstall the bloody thing.
Installing the executable from http://www.free-av.com, no Ask Toolbar is
installed. How did you get your Avira Antivir Free?
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David H. Lipman
>> I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
>> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
>> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
>> uninstall the bloody thing.
>
> Installing the executable from http://www.free-av.com, no Ask Toolbar is installed. How
> did you get your Avira Antivir Free?
>
> --
Now update the program.
Update --> start product update
Shadow
>http://www.calendarofupdates.com/updates/index.php?app=calendar&module=calendar&do=showevent&cal_id=1&event_id=95954
>
> There is no way I can get rid of the nag screen to install the
>toolbar (appears at every boot), so I'll either have to do some more
>registry hacking or go to Avast .... uggh
> I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
>cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
>toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
>uninstall the bloody thing.
> []'s
The irony of it:
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=986984
(Read before they delete the post in their forum)
///
marfabilis Moderator
Date of registration:
May 14th 2010
Monday, August 2nd 2010, 4:19pm
It would also be advisable to uninstall:
Ask Toolbar - Ask.com Toolbar, bundled with many third party
applications
fxp Toolbar - a Conduit/EffectiveBrand "Free Community" toolbar -
modifies the default IE SearchHook. Some Conduit toolbars are reputed
to have a certain adware/trackware functionality.
///
I've gone to Avast, but if Avira cleans up the mess, I might
switch back. A simple "do not install" option, together with the
current "install now" and "install later" would do the trick.
IMHO
[OT] Yrrah, get that hemorrhoid ointment, quick, or take a
laxative or something !!
[]'s
Larry B
"Shadow" <S...@dow.br> wrote in message
news:a4pj071olnb1q7ro6...@4ax.com...
> http://www.calendarofupdates.com/updates/index.php?app=calendar&module=calendar&do=showevent&cal_id=1&event_id=95954
>
> There is no way I can get rid of the nag screen to install the
> toolbar (appears at every boot), so I'll either have to do some more
> registry hacking or go to Avast .... uggh
> I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
> uninstall the bloody thing.
> []'s
Don't like the nag screen and like toolbars even less. Just wondering if
anyone had installed the toolbar and then disabled it in their browser.
Before I do that I wanted to find out if that is a bad idea. Avira has
otherwise been pretty good up to now (except for that full upgrade nag
screen).
Man-wai Chang
> Update --> start product update
Product update???
I always removed the old one and installed the new one from scratch....
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gaz
>> I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
>> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
>> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
>> uninstall the bloody thing.
>
> Installing the executable from http://www.free-av.com, no Ask Toolbar
> is installed. How did you get your Avira Antivir Free?
Do an update, following a reboot you will be asked if you want to install
the toolbar. They might be rolling it across different regions. I have not
seen any adverts for uniblue, just some european download site.
FromTheRafters
> FromTheRafters wrote:
>
>> Technically, does AntiVir Free version qualify as freeware? It seems to
>> me that it is ad supported software (adware). Of course that's no bar to
>> it being on-topic in the freeware group as I'm sure there are a lot of
>> "free, but for a price" freeware offerings out there. :o)
>
> It only advertises itself though, I can deal with that.
So can I.
> When I can't<grin>, I have a little .reg file to make a local path
> policy that disallows"avnotify.exe" to execute.
Yeah, I've got that too, but I haven't used it yet. I figure
a little advertisement is only fair especially since I knew
about it going in.
Sometimes, it's even entertaining.
(detects rotkits lol)
Larry B
"Shadow" <S...@dow.br> wrote in message
news:a4pj071olnb1q7ro6...@4ax.com...
> http://www.calendarofupdates.com/updates/index.php?app=calendar&module=calendar&do=showevent&cal_id=1&event_id=95954
>
> There is no way I can get rid of the nag screen to install the
> toolbar (appears at every boot), so I'll either have to do some more
> registry hacking or go to Avast .... uggh
> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
> uninstall the bloody thing.
Saw on an a thread over at ACAV how to get rig of the nag screen.
Go to Add/Remove Programs (on XP) and choose Change. Just follow the prompts
while not checking the toolbar option. It will uninstall and reinstall Avira
components. No more nags (so far) and the umbrella is open again. Thanks Lil
Abner!
Ron
> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no way I can get rid of the nag screen to install the
>>>> toolbar (appears at every boot), so I'll either have to do some more
>>>> registry hacking or go to Avast .... uggh
>>>> I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
>>>> cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
>>>> toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
>>>> uninstall the bloody thing.
>>>> []'s
>>> av install? Or is it one of their extras?
>> The standard fee license expires in September. If you download the
>> software update you are extended to November 2012 with a catch. From
>> the System Tray Avira pop-ups a notification of a search bar install
>> as a new feature. That installs Ask Toolbar and to use the Webguard
>> feature of Avira you have to enable Ask Toolbar.
>> I just closed the System Tray Avira pop-up notification and it did
>> not install and on my WinXP pro desktop I denied the execution of
>> "ApnStub.exe" and "ApnToolbarInstaller.exe" via SECPOL.MSC.
>>
>> On my Vista Business notebook it required a reboot. I closed the
>> System Tray Avira pop-up notification and it did not install as well
>> as I denied the execution of "ApnStub.exe" and
>> "ApnToolbarInstaller.exe" via SECPOL.MSC. Vista shows there is a
>> Webguard that is disabled because Ask Toolbar isn't installed and I
>> went into the configuration and specifically unchecked the box to
>> load Webguard.
>> All this is PITA and Avira will feel the backlash when thye lose
>> customers.
>> My POC at Avira could only state "Alas, I am not allowed to comment
>> on this."
>
> up. It gave me the option of install now or install later, the question is,
> how often is it going to ask us to install it?
>
>
I just went though this.
I went ahead and hit OK to install the update/toolbar on the tray popup.
Which prompted Avira to give me a repair or remove option. So I hit
repair and there was an option on whether or not to install the toolbar.
I elected not to, and now Avira is fine.
Ron
I was the OP of that thread, read what I posted in response.
Larry B
"Ron" <bigel...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Hey Ron, Kudos to you, too!! Even easier.
Man-wai Chang
> the toolbar. They might be rolling it across different regions. I have not
> seen any adverts for uniblue, just some european download site.
Thanks. The solution is simple: don't do a full product update, but
download and clean-install.
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Bear Bottoms
email.me:
>>> Avira is basically payware. Sad to see its free version to become adware.
>> It's always been adware.
>
> No. It's not a few years ago.
>
It makes no difference because adware does not require payment so it is also
freeware.
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Defeat forgers:
Man-wai Chang
>>
>> No. It's not a few years ago.
>>
> It makes no difference because adware does not require payment so it is also
> freeware.
But the freeware got income from those ads. :)
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Bear Bottoms
>>>> It's always been adware.
>>>
>>> No. It's not a few years ago.
>>>
>> It makes no difference because adware does not require payment so it
>> is also freeware.
>
> But the freeware got income from those ads. :)
>
You wouldn't have an economy without income.
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Man-wai Chang
>
> Which prompted Avira to give me a repair or remove option. So I hit
> repair and there was an option on whether or not to install the toolbar.
>
> I elected not to, and now Avira is fine.
Thanks!
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Pooh the Cat
wrote:
>John Corliss <q34w...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Adware is NOT freeware and thus it is off topic in the alt.comp.freeware
>> newsgroup.
>
>Morons will never understand that.
>
>Yrrah
I could swear that I've witnessed you heaping praise upon PDF-XChange
Viewer? and John too, No/Yes?
Anyway, thanks for denigrating Ron!!!
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RayLopez99
> I've gone to Avast, but if Avira cleans up the mess, I might
> switch back. A simple "do not install" option, together with the
> current "install now" and "install later" would do the trick.
> IMHO
> [OT] Yrrah, get that hemorrhoid ointment, quick, or take a
> laxative or something !!
> []'s
Avira clean install did not give me a nag screen for Windows 7, if
Avira is the one with the red umbrella (PC not in front of me now).
But I did recommend Avast to somebody recently, never having used it,
and other than perhaps a slightly smaller detection rate than Avira,
am curious if there's anything wrong with it. Seems Avast is OK from
the reviews I've read.
RL
Man-wai Chang
> http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=986984
It's talking about the Premium version.
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Tired
avast has a bigger system footprint...