Freeware Logo: We have a Winner...
Vegard Krog Petersen
The Freeware Logo Contest & Vote in alt.comp.freeware between December
4th. and December 19th. 2004 is now over.
Big thanks to all who voted and all the creators of possible freeware
logo's!
And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
The image and recommandations for its use can be seen on this URL:
Ronald Sandee has made several sets of the freeware logo image with
differents sizes and backgrounds etc.
Now, can anybody give me the brilliant strategic plan to get the logo
used on many, many websites and programs? I can't e-mail every single
freeware author :-) :-)
Note that the freeware logo is not an a.c.f. logo.
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What is this 'Freeware Logo'? :
The goal is to make the The Freeware Logo a universally recognizable
symbol for freeware programs and websites.
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Regards from Vegard
--
Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway
My sites:
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Solitaire MahJongg: http://home.halden.net/vkp/vkp/
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Chinese Checkers: http://home.no.net/vkp/
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Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/
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Freeware Logo: http://home.no/buffy2/
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My fishy site (fishing games): http://home.no/vkp32/
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Fredrikshald Havfiskeklubb: http://www.fredrikshald-havfiske.no
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dszady
>
> The Freeware Logo Contest & Vote in alt.comp.freeware between December
> 4th. and December 19th. 2004 is now over.
>
> Big thanks to all who voted and all the creators of possible freeware
> logo's!
>
> And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
> Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
>
> The image and recommandations for its use can be seen on this URL:
>
> http://home.no/buffy2/
>
> Ronald Sandee has made several sets of the freeware logo image with
> differents sizes and backgrounds etc.
>
> Now, can anybody give me the brilliant strategic plan to get the logo
> used on many, many websites and programs? I can't e-mail every single
> freeware author :-) :-)
>
> Note that the freeware logo is not an a.c.f. logo.
>
> -------------------------------
> What is this 'Freeware Logo'? :
> The goal is to make the The Freeware Logo a universally recognizable
> symbol for freeware programs and websites.
Everyone can put one on their web site to start.
BTW Is Pricelessware coming out with a new banner soon? (88 x 30)
--
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http://www.earths-ocular.com/
Registered Linux User: 347957
Vegard Krog Petersen
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:46:52 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>
> Everyone can put one on their web site to start.
Yeah! :-)
> BTW Is Pricelessware coming out with a new banner soon? (88 x 30)
Yes, We're awaiting The Return Of Burnr.... :-)
> http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&th=cd3dc4024b75357e&seekm=cpkg0e%24iio%241%40news.tdcnorge.no&frame=off
( RoSandee )
"WhItE RaBBiT" <WhiTE....@Go.Ask.Alice.org> schreef in bericht
news:Xns95C6F86C...@204.127.199.17...
> Vegard Krog Petersen <vegard_kro...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cq7gqm
> $q4d$1...@news.tdcnorge.no:
>
> > The image and recommandations for its use can be seen on this URL:
>
>
> http://www.rmh-d.com/downloads/desktop/sw/1024_768.gif
>
> lol
>
why?
Susan Bugher
> And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
> Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
Thanks for organizing this Vegard and congratulations to Ronald. Will we
be voting on our favorite freeware image once a year now? ;)
> The image and recommandations for its use can be seen on this URL:
>
> http://home.no/buffy2/
>
> Ronald Sandee has made several sets of the freeware logo image with
> differents sizes and backgrounds etc.
>
> Now, can anybody give me the brilliant strategic plan to get the logo
> used on many, many websites and programs? I can't e-mail every single
> freeware author :-) :-)
under the heading of every little bit helps. . .
Maybe we could have the image and a link to:
http://home.no/buffy2/
on the acf Members page: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php
and label it: "freeware symbol"
Comments from the group please. Should I add something along those lines
to the Members page? or some other web page?
Susan
--
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
ACF FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
ACF wiki: http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki
BarryTone
> Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>
>> And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
>> Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
>
Now if we can only get it on an Indy car! ;)
scootgirl.com
news:cq7gqm$q4d$1...@news.tdcnorge.no...
>
> The Freeware Logo Contest & Vote in alt.comp.freeware between December
> 4th. and December 19th. 2004 is now over.
>
> Big thanks to all who voted and all the creators of possible freeware
> logo's!
>
> And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
> Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
I'm just curious, is that a circle crossing out the number "1"? What does
that mean?
Rod
news:Xns95C644A3...@204.127.199.17:
> "scootgirl.com" <duzf...@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> news:FuOxd.32666$NC6.8302 @newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net:
>
>> I'm just curious, is that a circle crossing out the number "1"? What
>> does that mean?
>
> Quite likely a symbolic (coin) monetary unit, or simply put, "no
> payment involved, or required".
>
> In other words, a "Bill Gate$ FREE Zone"! ;-)
>
What does the chairman of the company who developed the OS you are
using have to do with it ?
--
Rod
Listening to http://www.stubru.be/luisterlive/streams/high.html
Vegard Krog Petersen
> Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>> And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
>> Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
>
>
> Thanks for organizing this Vegard and congratulations to Ronald. Will we
> be voting on our favorite freeware image once a year now? ;)
Thanks, Susan!
And I'm so glad I know you're kidding about the yearly vote :-)
>> The image and recommandations for its use can be seen on this URL:
>> http://home.no/buffy2/
> under the heading of every little bit helps. . .
> Maybe we could have the image and a link to:
> http://home.no/buffy2/
> on the acf Members page: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php
> and label it: "freeware symbol"
> Comments from the group please. Should I add something along those lines
> to the Members page? or some other web page?
> Susan
A little page of it's own, perhaps, kind and sweet Susan
(I'm shameless!) :-)
Regards from Vegard
--
Vegard Krog Petersen, Norway
My sites:
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Solitaire MahJongg: http://home.halden.net/vkp/vkp/index.html
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Halma & Chinese Checkers: http://home.no.net/vkp/index.html
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Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/index.html
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My fishy site (fishing games): http://home.no/vkp32/index.html
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Fredrikshald Havfiskeklubb: http://www.fredrikshald-havfiske.no
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Rod
> Rod <re...@group.please> wrote in news:32q0qnF...@individual.net:
>
>>> In other words, a "Bill Gate$ FREE Zone"! ;-)
>>
>> What does the chairman of the company who developed the OS you are
>> using have to do with it ?
>
> Ah, but you mean the OS that you -think- I am using. ;-)
So, what OS are you using ?
Roger Johansson
> Actually, the *wings* design is quite similar to one that bikers have
> been using for years, in various forms.
This vote was never organized in a regular way.
It was never discussed if we should organize such a vote.
It was not handled by the person we have appointed to organize votings.
The alternatives were not listed with url's to pictures. Only the people
who happened to find the pictures by themselves could see what they
looked like.
The "wings" alternative which got a lot of votes is very ugly and looks
like a fake police badge.
Only a small part of the participators in acf ever got involved in this
issue, probably because most people here were not interested in this
irregular procedure or a freeware/biker logo.
We already have a logo, the Pricelessware word and the buttons with that
word.
--
Roger J.
( RoSandee )
created. In the past two weeks Vegard Krog Petersen and me have tried, in
close confer, to create a final logo, that would be acceptable and suitable
for use. Thanks to those who are willing to exchange their findings in acf,
and those who set their programs available and free for use, I could improve
my system corresponding my personal wishes, and saved hours searching the
web, so I'm happy I can do something in return. It was a pleasure working on
it.
A question that reached me this morning by email regarding how to use the
logos and banners I can mention that all logos, banners and icons are free
for use as writte down by Vegard.
I do not object using the banner as a logo in the way it was proposed.
Thanks again,
groet ... ronald sandee.
Vegard Krog Petersen
> WhItE RaBBiT <WhiTE....@Go.Ask.Alice.org> wrote:
>>Actually, the *wings* design is quite similar to one that bikers have
>>been using for years, in various forms.
>
> This vote was never organized in a regular way.
Hi, Roger. It may not come as a surprise that I disagree with you :-)
Please specify 'regular way'?
It was done in the same way as the yearly Pricelessware voting.
> It was never discussed if we should organize such a vote.
There has been several long threads about the possibility of a freeware
logo (all started by me). How could there be anything other than a vote?
I could not choose an image myself... :-)
> It was not handled by the person we have appointed to organize votings.
It was not an Pricelessware vote. It was a vote upon my initiative.
Should that have been forbidden? And I don't think anyone is "appointed"
(Sorry Susan! :-) )
> The alternatives were not listed with url's to pictures.
They were! Where have you been during the vote? :-)
All the images were available on the same URL as the winner is presented
on now - see the old page here: http://home.no/buffy2/contest.html
Ronald Sandee has made several variations of the image - it is not that
you are referring to? They share the same basics: wings, slashed coin,
ball/globe - and are similar enough not to be confusing.
> Only the people who happened to find the pictures by themselves
> could see what they looked like.
Not correct. See above.
> The "wings" alternative which got a lot of votes is very ugly and looks
> like a fake police badge.
That's a personal opinion you of course are entitled to... :-)
> Only a small part of the participators in acf ever got involved in this
> issue,
73 votes and a long discussion thread. Please Susan: what's the normal
amount of people voting for a program on the Pricelessware list?
> probably because most people here were not interested in this
> irregular procedure or a freeware/biker logo.
Not irregular (in my opinion) and no biker logo...
> We already have a logo, the Pricelessware word and the buttons with that
> word.
What logo? Do you mean the Pricelessware one? This was never about that
- this was trying to get a freeware logo or symbol, not an a.c.f. logo
or Pricelessware logo.
BTW: In my opinion the a.c.f. logo is still contestant no. 13 by La
Bete. It just disappeared from people's sight and mind in 2003 when John
Corliss removed his a.c.f f.a.q.
Regards from Vegard
--
burnr
> dszady wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:46:52 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>>> http://home.no/buffy2/
>>
>> Everyone can put one on their web site to start.
>
> Yeah! :-)
>
>> BTW Is Pricelessware coming out with a new banner soon? (88 x 30)
>
> Yes, We're awaiting The Return Of Burnr.... :-)
>> http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&th=cd3dc4024b75357e&seekm=cpk
>> g0e%24iio%241%40news.tdcnorge.no&frame=off
>
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/LinkButtons
This is what I've done so far for Susan :) Nothing spectacular.
The view.htm and view.php are a couple small "viewer" files. I prefer the
htm viewer.
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/LinkButtons/view.htm
--
burnr
http://freeware4u.com
Roger Johansson
>> The "wings" alternative which got a lot of votes is very ugly and
>> looks like a fake police badge.
> That's a personal opinion you of course are entitled to... :-)
Only seconds after posting that message I glanced at the tv, and saw a
german uniform from WWII which had a very similar "logo". Except for the
word freeware it was practically identical to this wings logo. It is a
typical military sign, similar designs are used by many countries air
forces, and police forces.
But you are right about the number of voters, I guess, 73 is a big number
of participators. Not much I can do about that.
--
Roger J.
seabat
>>>Only a small part of the participators in acf ever got involved in this
>>>issue, probably because most people here were not interested in this
>>>irregular procedure or a freeware/biker logo.
I dunno, wings are used all over the world for different things.
Airline pilots have wings, many countried have wings in their seals to
denote freedom (the USA for example). I don't recall any documentation
that specifically awards the wing symbol to bikers exclusively.
>>>We already have a logo, the Pricelessware word and the buttons with that
>>>word.
Not a logo, a banner. Big difference!
Just my 2 pennies!
--
The Seabat
Roger Johansson
> I don't recall any documentation
> that specifically awards the wing symbol to bikers exclusively.
Bikers have taken all of their signs from the military, especially the
german military, to get respect.
They do not know the difference between respect and fear, so they use the
most frightening symbols they know about. Nazi military signs, german
shepherd dogs, the swastika, etc..
--
Roger J.
Susan Bugher
> Susan Bugher wrote:
>
>> Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>>
>>> And the winner (a landslide victory) is:
>>> Image no. 15 - "Wings of freeware" by Ronald Sandee with 41 of 73 votes.
>>> The image and recommandations for its use can be seen on this URL:
>>> http://home.no/buffy2/
>
>
>> under the heading of every little bit helps. . .
>> Maybe we could have the image and a link to:
>> http://home.no/buffy2/
>> on the acf Members page: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php
>> and label it: "freeware symbol"
>> Comments from the group please. Should I add something along those
>> lines to the Members page? or some other web page?
>> Susan
>
> A little page of it's own, perhaps, kind and sweet Susan
> (I'm shameless!) :-)
Yes you are. ;) I dunno about an entire *ACF* web page for the logo
but. . .
I suggest you see if the people in *ACFG* would like to mention the
Freeware logo on the *ACFG* web pages at
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acfg/acfg.php
I think you have a certain amount of influence over there. . .
Susan Bugher
> Roger Johansson wrote:
>> It was not handled by the person we have appointed to organize votings.
>
> It was not an Pricelessware vote. It was a vote upon my initiative.
> Should that have been forbidden? And I don't think anyone is "appointed"
Agree. Anyone can call for a vote in ACF.
>> Only a small part of the participators in acf ever got involved in this
>> issue,
73 votes is a big "voter turnout" for ACF.
> 73 votes and a long discussion thread. Please Susan: what's the normal
> amount of people voting for a program on the Pricelessware list?
79 voters for PL2005. see:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/Archives/PL2005ProgramVote.txt and
100 voters for PL2004 (we don't have counts for earlier years - I think
there were about 75 voters for PL2003).
@gmail.com /3iff //ullins
<WhiTE....@Go.Ask.Alice.org> wrote:
>Rod <re...@group.please> wrote in news:32q0qnF...@individual.net:
>
>>> In other words, a "Bill Gate$ FREE Zone"! ;-)
>>
>> What does the chairman of the company who developed the OS you are
>> using have to do with it ?
>
>Ah, but you mean the OS that you -think- I am using. ;-)
>
in reality you use windows 3.11, right? ;)~
Susan Bugher
> On 21 Dec 2004 12:23:51 GMT, Roger Johansson wrote...
>>But you are right about the number of voters, I guess, 73 is a big number
>>of participators.
>
> The one thing that none of us will ever know for sure is exactly how many
> people read this group either regularly or infrequently. 73 is a big
> number in a group of a hundred or so, but is less impressive if there are
> millions of readers.
erm. . . there's info about that here:
MSR Netscan - Usenet Social Accounting Search Engine
alt.comp.freeware report card
http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?searchfor=alt.comp.freeware
That's not the whole story these days - as some web sites are displaying
the ACF newsgroup as a forum.
dszady
So....
Is there going to be vote or is it a pick one and put it on our web sites?
I like most of them myself. Good job!
--
°¿°
http://www.earths-ocular.com/
Registered Linux User: 347957
Susan Bugher
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:57:59 -0600, burnr wrote:
>
>>http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/LinkButtons
> So....
> Is there going to be vote or is it a pick one and put it on our web sites?
Pick the one(s) you like.
> I like most of them myself. Good job!
Second that. Thanks Burnr!
Susan Bugher
> Erm........ that relates to posts doesn't it? I'm referring to the number
> of people actually reading this group which is surely incalculable.
Sorry. I read your post too hastily. You are correct - the web page
shows an estimate of the number of people who posted to ACF. (The
numbers are approximate since some people post under more than one name.)
re incalculable: A statistical survey could probably come up with a
pretty good estimate of the number of people who actually read ACF - I
don't know of a link to such a survey (or if one has ever been done).
snorre
a little bit off-topic perhaps, but I want to let you know that I am one of
the (million) "passive" readers of acf. About eight weeks ago I discovered
acf and since then I read the posts daily. Keep it up!
Ferry (snorre) from Raalte Holland.
"Paul Blarmy" <foxe...@trashmail.net> schreef in bericht
news:MPG.1c329cf7b...@news.individual.de...
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:54:38 -0500, Susan Bugher wrote...
>
> > > The one thing that none of us will ever know for sure is exactly how
many
> > > people read this group either regularly or infrequently. 73 is a big
> > > number in a group of a hundred or so, but is less impressive if there
are
> > > millions of readers.
> >
> > erm. . . there's info about that here:
>
> Erm........ that relates to posts doesn't it? I'm referring to the number
> of people actually reading this group which is surely incalculable.
>
> --
> EMail address is disposable and NEVER checked.
> Outgoing message is certified VIRUS FREE by
> *me* using nothing more than common sense.
Vegard Krog Petersen
> I suggest you see if the people in *ACFG* would like to mention the
> Freeware logo on the *ACFG* web pages at
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acfg/acfg.php
> I think you have a certain amount of influence over there. . .
I do? Oh, that guy made that page! I'll break both his legs if he
doesn't do what I tell him! ;-)
> Yes you are. ;) I dunno about an entire *ACF* web page for the logo
> but. . .
Well, can't blame a guy for trying! :-)
Seriously, Susan: There has been no feedback on the possible inclusion
of the freeware logo on the pricelessware pages. You know, you could
just use the image whereever you see fit I you want to. What about the
acf information page? The most important think is that the image is
being used and people learning what it represents.
Regards from Vegard
--
Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway
My sites:
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Solitaire MahJongg: http://home.halden.net/vkp/vkp/
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Chinese Checkers: http://home.no.net/vkp/
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Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/
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Freeware Logo: http://home.no/buffy2/
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My fishy site (fishing games): http://home.no/vkp32/
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Fredrikshald Havfiskeklubb: http://www.fredrikshald-havfiske.no
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burnr
news:pan.2004.12.21.18.35.42.30681@Nigeria:
Thnx
Having reread my post (and not wanting to sound like I'm taking credit
for someone elses work) I should add that I did not make 2003.gif,
2003button.gif, or 2004.gif. I did add the animation to
2003button2.gif.
The other buttons I did make. Also, I just realized
pricelesswarebutton.png doesn't show with the htm viewer. oops.
It looks like this
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/LinkButtons/pricelesswarebutton.png
and was made using this web resource:
http://kalsey.com/tools/buttonmaker/
--
burnr
http://freeware4u.com
burnr
news:10sgs0m...@corp.supernews.com:
> Second that. Thanks Burnr!
>
> Susan
yw :)
--
burnr
http://freeware4u.com
Frank Bohan
"Susan Bugher" <whoise...@kvi.net> wrote in message
news:10sgopt...@corp.supernews.com...
> Paul Blarmy wrote:
>> On 21 Dec 2004 12:23:51 GMT, Roger Johansson wrote...
>
>>>But you are right about the number of voters, I guess, 73 is a big number
>>>of participators.
>>
>> The one thing that none of us will ever know for sure is exactly how many
>> people read this group either regularly or infrequently. 73 is a big
>> number in a group of a hundred or so, but is less impressive if there are
>> millions of readers.
>
> erm. . . there's info about that here:
>
> MSR Netscan - Usenet Social Accounting Search Engine
> alt.comp.freeware report card
>
> http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?searchfor=alt.comp.freeware
>
> That's not the whole story these days - as some web sites are displaying
> the ACF newsgroup as a forum.
>
> Susan
> --
That's a very useful site which could be included on the site information
posts. I was amused to find a "rival" newsgroup, alt.freeware, which had a
600% increase in the number of posts (up from one to seven!) and a 200%
increase in people (up from one to three!). Well, I suppose they have to
start somewhere.
===
Frank Bohan
¶ When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
Susan Bugher
> Susan Bugher wrote:
> > I suggest you see if the people in *ACFG* would like to mention the
> > Freeware logo on the *ACFG* web pages at
> > http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acfg/acfg.php
> > I think you have a certain amount of influence over there. . .
>
> I do? Oh, that guy made that page! I'll break both his legs if he
> doesn't do what I tell him! ;-)
After you "reason" with him ;) let me know what needs to be changed on
the ACFG pages.
I revised the acf Members page to point to the directory with the new
(and old) Pricelessware buttons. While I was doing that I added a link
to the Freeware logo site (I used one of the smaller Freeware images for
the link). see: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php
Susan Bugher
> "Susan Bugher" <whoise...@kvi.net> wrote in message
> news:10sgopt...@corp.supernews.com...
>>MSR Netscan - Usenet Social Accounting Search Engine
>>alt.comp.freeware report card
>>
>>http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?searchfor=alt.comp.freeware
> That's a very useful site which could be included on the site information
> posts.
ISTM the acf info posts should be short - only *essential* info. FWIW -
that site *is* listed on the Links page.
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Links.php
I was amused to find a "rival" newsgroup, alt.freeware, which had a
> 600% increase in the number of posts (up from one to seven!) and a 200%
> increase in people (up from one to three!). Well, I suppose they have to
> start somewhere.
With numbers like that it's hard to go anywhere but up. :)
seabat
Says who? What source are you using for an authority to make a
statement like that??
--
The Seabat