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Re: Best catalog progam for software and/or media? Anything similar to Softcat Plus?

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Duddits

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May 24, 2007, 8:33:22 PM5/24/07
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 17:55:16 -0500, hm...@hmmm.org wrote:

> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my ever
> expanding collection of assorted freeware. Unfortunately, only the Softcat
> Plus version will auto search, which means that filling out the database
> fields for hundreds of programs can be very cumbersome. I've noticed that
> the freeware version doesn't allow for drag and drop either.
>
> For CD/DVD media cataloging, I've found
>
> Viual CD
> http://boozet.xepher.net/viscd/index.htm
>
> Mike's CD scan
> http://www.geocities.com/mmonti_1/CDScan.htm
>
> Any other recommendations?

Disk Explorer Professional
http://www.tjelinek.com/main.php?section=d&setLng=EN
Free for personal use.

regards

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Sietse Fliege

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May 25, 2007, 12:01:32 AM5/25/07
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hm...@hmmm.org wrote:
> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my
> ever expanding collection of assorted freeware. Unfortunately, only
> the Softcat Plus version will auto search, which means that filling
> out the database fields for hundreds of programs can be very
> cumbersome. I've noticed that the freeware version doesn't allow for
> drag and drop either.

I never really used SoftCat but AFAIK it does allow for drag and drop.
IIRC, you can use an external search program to find exe files, like
Windows Find or better for instance XYplorer which more intelligently
lets you include/exclude multiple paths, and then drag and drop from the
search results window onto SoftCats Programs View.

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mouser

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May 25, 2007, 1:45:53 AM5/25/07
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there's a big discussion of these tools going on on our forum with a
huge list of them:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=7764.0


On May 24, 5:55 pm, h...@hmmm.org wrote:
> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my ever
> expanding collection of assorted freeware. Unfortunately, only the Softcat
> Plus version will auto search, which means that filling out the database
> fields for hundreds of programs can be very cumbersome. I've noticed that
> the freeware version doesn't allow for drag and drop either.
>

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Joe935

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May 25, 2007, 6:07:10 AM5/25/07
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hm...@hmmm.org wrote:
> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my
> ever expanding collection of assorted freeware. Unfortunately, only
> the Softcat Plus version will auto search, which means that filling
> out the database fields for hundreds of programs can be very
> cumbersome. I've noticed that the freeware version doesn't allow for
> drag and drop either.
>
> For CD/DVD media cataloging, I've found
>
> Viual CD
> http://boozet.xepher.net/viscd/index.htm
>
> Mike's CD scan
> http://www.geocities.com/mmonti_1/CDScan.htm
>
> Any other recommendations?

ANT Movie Catalog: http://www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/

Has many other cataloging uses. You can even create our own catalog with it.
I created a software catalog with it.


Susan Bugher

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May 25, 2007, 2:15:31 PM5/25/07
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hm...@hmmm.org wrote:

> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my ever
> expanding collection of assorted freeware. Unfortunately, only the Softcat
> Plus version will auto search, which means that filling out the database
> fields for hundreds of programs can be very cumbersome. I've noticed that
> the freeware version doesn't allow for drag and drop either.
>
> For CD/DVD media cataloging, I've found
>
> Viual CD
> http://boozet.xepher.net/viscd/index.htm
>
> Mike's CD scan
> http://www.geocities.com/mmonti_1/CDScan.htm
>
> Any other recommendations?

Some of the possibilities. . .

all-purpose catalogers:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_ORGANIZERS.php#1.00Cataloger

multimedia organizers:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_MULTIMEDIA.php#2.43AudioOrganizer
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_MULTIMEDIA.php#7.20Organizer:Media
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_MULTIMEDIA.php#7.20Organizer:Movies

More (specialized) apps are are listed in other organizer/ cataloger
subcategories - see the ACF category page:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_CategoryIndex.php

Susan
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Sietse Fliege

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May 25, 2007, 8:20:36 PM5/25/07
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I forgot to add my alternative suggestion for creating a catalog of the
software on your computer: Nirsofts Shortcuts Manager
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shman.html

This however will work only (or perhaps I should say best) when you
already have a well organised Start Menu folder.
Ideally, every program on your computer should have at least a shortcut
to its (main) executable somewhere in the Start Menu (preferrably in a
hierarchy you setup yourself).
There should be no other (superfluous) shortcuts in there.
(Re)move all shortcuts to readme's, helpfiles etc. and move uninstall
shortcuts to a dedicated uninstal folder outside the Start Menu.
If you already have organized your Start Menu folders in this way (to
have a faster and more convenient Start Menu) like I have (and as I read
John Corliss as well), Shortcuts manager comes in handy.
It will let you export to a comma or tab delimited file.
That lets you have a database with the friendly program names
(IrfanView=the name of the shortcut), the name and location of the main
executables (Iview32.exe), the version number as found in the
executables, etc. and you can manage the datebase (for instance a csv
file) with a dedicated program to add more colums/fields, sort per
field, etc.

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John Fitzsimons

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May 25, 2007, 8:39:48 PM5/25/07
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On 24 May 2007 22:45:53 -0700, mouser <mou...@donationcoder.com>
wrote:

>On May 24, 5:55 pm, h...@hmmm.org wrote:

>> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my ever
>> expanding collection of assorted freeware. Unfortunately, only the Softcat
>> Plus version will auto search, which means that filling out the database
>> fields for hundreds of programs can be very cumbersome. I've noticed that
>> the freeware version doesn't allow for drag and drop either.

< snip >

>there's a big discussion of these tools going on on our forum with a
>huge list of them:
>http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=7764.0

If you ever come across what he asked for then perhaps you could let
us know ? What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
system.

Apparently however such a program doesn't exist. Those that say they
do this only check registry entries. Excluding those programs that are
single executables and/or don't make registry entries.


Regards, John.

jimbok

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May 26, 2007, 12:14:31 AM5/26/07
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 10:39:48 +1000, John Fitzsimons
<DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

> What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
>98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
>system.
>
>Apparently however such a program doesn't exist. Those that say they
>do this only check registry entries. Excluding those programs that are
>single executables and/or don't make registry entries.

Hi John,

If you only want a listing of all exe files on your computer you can
generate that from a command prompt using:

DIR C:\*.exe /S /ON > C:\docs\exelist.txt

This will generate a list named exelist.txt in the directory C:\Docs.
Of course you can send the list to whatever directory name you wish.
It will list all exe files (though it cannot distinguish between
archive files and executable programs) by directory and in
alphabetical order. You would have to repeat the command for
different partitions.
If you want a real catalog program that allows comments, etc., then
I'm afraid you'll have to keep looking.

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jm...@webace.com.au

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May 26, 2007, 1:26:21 AM5/26/07
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On May 25, 6:55 am, h...@hmmm.org wrote:
> I just loaded the freeware version of Softcat to try to catalog my ever
> expanding collection of assorted freeware.

Here is my info, links are like us, they die. If any of these links
are dead or are no longer freeware, at least you have the name of the
program which you put into a search engine like Google & maybe you can
let me know the latest info.
I am not recommending anything, my list gives you a starting point to
find something to suit your operating system ( most people do not even
mention it ) & skill level. What will work on my computer, may not be
happy on yours. What I can understand, re how to install & run, may
not apply to you.

@filecat
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=2&cat=014
http://home.comcast.net/~ammaxamma/

AACD
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=2&cat=015
http://jlved.club.fr/en/AACD.htm

Advanced Disk Cataloging System
http://pmeindre.free.fr/ADiCS.html
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?cat=79

Ant Movie Catalog
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/Ant-Movie-Catalog-updated.shtml
http://users.swing.be/ant/mirror/amc_install.exe

Application Explorer
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/Application-Explorer.shtml
http://appexp.sourceforge.net/

Brainstorm mp3 Catalog
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=26&cat=005
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bsmp3

BT Media Library
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=15&cat=015
http://www.breittechnologies.com/products/applications/btmedialibrary/index.html

CatFish
http://www.equi4.com/

CatView 2000
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=25&cat=014
http://www.mosessoft.spurrymoses.com/catview/

Cathy
http://rvas.webzdarma.cz/
http://rvas.webzdarma.cz/Cathy.zip

CD Catalog
http://www.freewarehome.com/index.html?%2FSystem_Utilities%2FFile_Man...
http://softwarebybrian.com/index.php?body=Freeware.php

CDIndex
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=28&cat=014
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?id=33121

CD Library
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=26&cat=014
http://members.lycos.co.uk/freeappz/

CD Navigator
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lab/2058/
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=8&cat=02

Classical Opus
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=37&cat=005
http://users.hol.gr/~dilos/anistor/classical/classical_opus.htm

DataMPX
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=42&cat=005
http://www.mp3fe.com/

Directory Catalog
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=48&cat=014
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?go=29743

Diskcat
http://easymtu.tripod.com/diskcat/index.html

Disk Catalog
http://www.rob.cybercomm.nl/diskcat/index.html

Disclib
http://www.lyrasoftware.com/disclib/
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=29&cat=005

DiskFinder
http://home.planet.nl/~gaale131/df_home.htm
http://www.freewarehome.com/index.html?%2FHome_and_Hobby%2FCDs%2FMisc...

DiskKat
http://www.nodesoft.com/DiskKat/

Disclib
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=45&cat=005
http://www.lyrasoftware.com//component/option,com_remository/Itemid,57/func,select/id,5/

Documentor - Paperless Office
http://www.geocities.com/garytobis/MainPage.html

DVD Holder
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/DVD-Holder.shtml
http://www.groonesworld.com/

Ethos Cataloger
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/Ethos-Cataloger.shtml
http://ethos.no-ip.com/

FDes
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=69&cat=014
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ferguson/bfiwte.html#fdes

File List Creator
http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/coding/934

FotoArchive
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=55&cat=004
http://users.hol.gr/~dilos/anistor/software/fotoarchive.htm

FotoCat
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=55&cat=004
http://www.it209.net/fotocat/

Free MP3 Organizer
http://www.music-db.org/

GCstar
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=40&cat=015
http://www.gcstar.org/

GWhere
http://www.gwhere.org/home.php3?idLanguage=US
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=62&cat=007

HappyCollection
http://alainlecomte.free.fr/Download.htm

IMage CATalog
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=78&cat=004
http://www.nulidex.com/products/image_catalog.shtml

InsideCAT
http://www.vgtsoftware.com/disc_cataloguer/disc_cataloguer.htm
http://www.snapfiles.com/dlnow/rdir.dll?id=105999

JBCat
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=111&cat=014
http://home.wanadoo.nl/jbsoft/jbcat.html

LCat
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=116&cat=014
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ferguson/bfiwte.html#lcat

ListMaker
http://www.nwlink.com/~koolguy/home.html

LS MyLib
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Diary-Organizers-Calendar/LS-MyLib.shtml
http://linesoft.org/

MAKara CDCatalog
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=120&cat=014
http://www.makaraz.com/cdcatalog.html

MaxLister
http://www.acc.umu.se/~max/maxlister/

Media Catalog Studio
http://www.maniactools.com/soft/media_catalog_studio/index.shtml

MediaMan
http://www.freeware-guide.com/dir/mmedia/manage.html
http://www.imediaman.com/

MediaMonkey
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-CD-Rippers-Encoders/MediaMonkey.shtml
http://www.alwaysfreeware.co.uk/audio.html
http://www.download.com/3000-2141-10109807.html
http://www.mediamonkey.com/MediaMonkey_Setup.exe
http://www.mediamonkey.com/download.htm

Mihov Index Maker
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=125&cat=014
http://www.mihov.com/sw/en/im.php

MP3 Cat
http://tellini.info/software/mp3cat/

MP3 Cataloguer
http://users.skynet.be/fa210674/MP3Cataloguer/Index.html
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=66&cat=005

MP3 CatalogMaker-Pro
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Authoring-tools/Digital-Album/MP3-CatalogMaker-Pro.shtml
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=105&cat=005
http://www.spiderrider.com/mp3pro.html

MP3 CDOrganizer
http://www.ranainside.com/software_mp3cdorganizer.html
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=66&cat=005

MP3Utility
http://www.geocities.com/mp3utility/
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=71&cat=005

MPEG Audio Collection
http://mac.sourceforge.net/

Music Archive
http://www.publicware.dk/EN/MusicArchive/
http://www.snapfiles.com/Freeware/gmm/fwmusicman.shtml

MusicDB
http://www.ultima-thule.co.uk

My DVD Catalog
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/My-DVD-Catalog.shtml
http://www.dvdcopy.cc/

MyInfo
http://www.filelibrary.com/Contents/Multi-Platform/105/50.html

MyLib
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/MyLib.shtml
http://linesoft.org/en/projects/mylib/

NgDiskCat
http://www.ngtech.gr/index_en.html
http://www.freewr.com/freeware.php?download=ngdiskcat&lid=2069

Offline CD Browser
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/Offline-CD-Browser.shtml
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=77&cat=012
http://www.anderssoftware.com/ocdb/

OrangeCD Player
http://www.firetongue.com/
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=17&cat=016

Photo Album Studio
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=122&cat=004
http://www.exapower.com/photoalbumstudio/web/pas2.asp

PlayEX
http://nautrup.com/pex/PlayEX.zip
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=18&cat=016

Ruby
http://www.warpengine.com/

Samba Professional
http://www.zylsoft.com/samba.htm
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=100&cat=014

Simple Disc Cataloger
http://www.aronson.co.il/sdc/SDCHelp.htm
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=89&cat=005

SoftCAT
http://www.fnprg.com/softcat/
http://www.fnprg.com/softcat/softcat.htm

Super AudioArchive
http://web.volftp.mondadori.com/pub/pc/windows/win98/progs/database/aasetup10.exe
http://www.zdnetindia.com/downloads/info/10149258.html

TreeNOW
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=190&cat=014
http://www.handyarchive.com/Utilities/Disk-Utilities/9007-TreeNOW-1-0-Freeware.html

VCW VicMan's Database
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=198&cat=014
http://www.vicman.net/vicmandb/

Vevo! CatalogBuilder Free
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=86&cat=002
http://www.catalog-builder.com/

VisiTracks
http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/MMedia2.html
http://www.sover.net/~wysiwygx/Sofffffffware2.html

Visual CD
http://boozet.xepher.net/viscd/index.htm

YourBestCatalog
http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?page=110&cat=015
http://www.yourbestcatalog.com/Default.aspx

Zzzbla's CD Catalog
http://zzz.330.ca/progz/zcdc.shtml

jon

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May 26, 2007, 4:50:42 AM5/26/07
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John Fitzsimons wrote:

>What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
>98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
>system.
>
>Apparently however such a program doesn't exist. Those that say they
>do this only check registry entries. Excluding those programs that are
>single executables and/or don't make registry entries.

Dunno if you have looked at Cathy. Cheap and cheerful, will show all
.exe files and copy the paths of the whole lot to the clipboard

thoss

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May 26, 2007, 8:11:01 AM5/26/07
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 wrote:

>mouser <mou...@donationcoder.com> wrote in
>news:1180071953.1...@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

>
>> there's a big discussion of these tools going on on our forum with a
>> huge list of them:
>> http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=7764.0
>>
>

>Wow. What a great thread! Thanks for posting it.
>Looks like a great forum. I'm bookmarking it now.
>
>What's the general view there of DiskXplorer3 as recommended in a previous
>post on this thread?
>
>http://www.tjelinek.com/main.php?section=da
>
>
Where can I download this? All the download links seem dead.
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thoss

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May 26, 2007, 11:59:33 AM5/26/07
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Sorry - please disregard this. I had scripts disabled. All now OK.
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John Fitzsimons

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May 27, 2007, 7:48:18 AM5/27/07
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 00:14:31 -0400, jimbok
<jimkelRE...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 May 2007 10:39:48 +1000, John Fitzsimons
><DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>> What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
>>98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
>>system.

>>Apparently however such a program doesn't exist. Those that say they
>>do this only check registry entries. Excluding those programs that are
>>single executables and/or don't make registry entries.

>Hi John,

>If you only want a listing of all exe files on your computer you can
>generate that from a command prompt using:

< snip >

I know. That isn't what I want however. That would also list all
compressed files that are .exe files as well. I would want those
excluded.


Regards, John.

REM

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May 28, 2007, 9:36:42 AM5/28/07
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> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>> jimbok

>>> John Fitzsimons

>>> What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
>>>98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
>>>system.

>>>Apparently however such a program doesn't exist. Those that say they
>>>do this only check registry entries. Excluding those programs that are
>>>single executables and/or don't make registry entries.

>>Hi John,

>>If you only want a listing of all exe files on your computer you can
>>generate that from a command prompt using:

>I know. That isn't what I want however. That would also list all


>compressed files that are .exe files as well. I would want those
>excluded.

Eero still hasn't found time to update SHAID, but it still does a
pretty good job of doing what you want:

http://www.pcuf.fi/~heiska/shs/shaid.htm

One notable exception is installation .exe files (SFX) that are
created with Inno installation maker that are packed using the LZMA
algorithm. Zip Genius, for instance, uses this install making program.

If you download and extract shaid v2.70, you can also download this
little program that I made awhile back. Just place it in with the
shaid files and run "ID.exe" to get a complete listing of .exe files
on your C:, a good listing of all sfx .exe files that are identified,
and a list of program files, with the error of listing of sfx files
that are packed with LZMA:

http://www.woundedmoon.org/SHAID/ID.exe

It will list all .exe files in "exe.txt"

It will list all sfx files correctly in "SFX.TXT"

It will list all program files, along with sfx files packed with LZMA
in "PROGRAM.TXT"

That's the best that I could do so far. I'm still trying to figure the
magic bytes that identify LZMA files. And there might be other sfx
archivers yet to be identified by SHAID, but I have not found any.
The little program that I made makes a list of all .exe files on C:
and passes each path to shaid, making each of the three lists as it
runs.


Sietse Fliege

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May 28, 2007, 7:31:00 PM5/28/07
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REM wrote:
>
> Eero still hasn't found time to update SHAID, but it still does a
> pretty good job of doing what you want:
>
> http://www.pcuf.fi/~heiska/shs/shaid.htm
>
> One notable exception is installation .exe files (SFX) that are
> created with Inno installation maker that are packed using the LZMA
> algorithm. Zip Genius, for instance, uses this install making program.
>
> If you download and extract shaid v2.70, you can also download this
> little program that I made awhile back. Just place it in with the
> shaid files and run "ID.exe" to get a complete listing of .exe files
> on your C:, a good listing of all sfx .exe files that are identified,
> and a list of program files, with the error of listing of sfx files
> that are packed with LZMA:
>
> http://www.woundedmoon.org/SHAID/ID.exe
>
> It will list all .exe files in "exe.txt"
>
> It will list all sfx files correctly in "SFX.TXT"
>
> It will list all program files, along with sfx files packed with LZMA
> in "PROGRAM.TXT"
>
> That's the best that I could do so far. I'm still trying to figure the
> magic bytes that identify LZMA files. And there might be other sfx
> archivers yet to be identified by SHAID, but I have not found any.
> The little program that I made makes a list of all .exe files on C:
> and passes each path to shaid, making each of the three lists as it
> runs.

Maybe also worth checking out:
ARchive iDentifier (ARiD) version 0.06 - 09.08.2006

http://patkov-site.narod.ru/eng/programs.html

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Sietse Fliege

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Sietse Fliege wrote:

> Maybe also worth checking out:
> ARchive iDentifier (ARiD) version 0.06 - 09.08.2006
>
> http://patkov-site.narod.ru/eng/programs.html

Also: ES95 v2.63 - Archive Identifier for Win95/98/NT 396855 2002-01-24
ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/pack/es95.zip

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John Fitzsimons

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May 28, 2007, 8:46:59 PM5/28/07
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:36:42 -0500, REM <REMbr...@netscape.com>
wrote:

>> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>>>> What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
>>>>98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
>>>>system.

< snip >

>Eero still hasn't found time to update SHAID, but it still does a
>pretty good job of doing what you want:

>http://www.pcuf.fi/~heiska/shs/shaid.htm

>One notable exception is installation .exe files (SFX) that are
>created with Inno installation maker that are packed using the LZMA
>algorithm. Zip Genius, for instance, uses this install making program.

>If you download and extract shaid v2.70, you can also download this
>little program that I made awhile back. Just place it in with the
>shaid files and run "ID.exe" to get a complete listing of .exe files
>on your C:, a good listing of all sfx .exe files that are identified,
>and a list of program files, with the error of listing of sfx files
>that are packed with LZMA:

>http://www.woundedmoon.org/SHAID/ID.exe

>It will list all .exe files in "exe.txt"

>It will list all sfx files correctly in "SFX.TXT"

>It will list all program files, along with sfx files packed with LZMA
>in "PROGRAM.TXT"

>That's the best that I could do so far. I'm still trying to figure the
>magic bytes that identify LZMA files. And there might be other sfx
>archivers yet to be identified by SHAID, but I have not found any.
>The little program that I made makes a list of all .exe files on C:
>and passes each path to shaid, making each of the three lists as it
>runs.

Thank you REM. I will try that out later in the week, when I have some
"play" time. :-)


Regards, John.

jm...@webace.com.au

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On May 29, 7:44 am, "Sietse Fliege"
<change_.invalid_to_...@sf.slownet.invalid> wrote:

> Also: ES95 v2.63 - Archive Identifier for Win95/98/NT 396855 2002-01-24ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/pack/es95.zip

Unpacker
http://www.paehl.de/home.htm
This program replace ES95 and EP2K.

REM

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> "Sietse Fliege" <change_.inv...@sf.slownet.invalid> wrote:

>Maybe also worth checking out:
>ARchive iDentifier (ARiD) version 0.06 - 09.08.2006

>http://patkov-site.narod.ru/eng/programs.html

Nice find! I missed it in my search. A whopping 17.9 k... :) This is a
new program, but it too misses Inno Setup files. I wrote the author to
request an update.


REM

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> jm...@webace.com.au wrote:

>> "Sietse Fliege"

>> Also: ES95 v2.63 - Archive Identifier for Win95/98/NT 396855 2002-01-24ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/pack/es95.zip

>Unpacker
>http://www.paehl.de/home.htm
>This program replace ES95 and EP2K.

Thanks guys. All three programs miss n detection.

It might well be extremely difficult to identify every way to pack a
SFX file.

In an old Zip Genius file (zg600std(1).exe) bytes 40-52 are "Inno". In
another Inno file (spywareblasterserup351.exe) there is no indication
that I can see what sort of a file it is, but clicking on properties
of the file lists Inno Setup.

To make matters worse, LZMA is GNU, which means it might vary widely
between authors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lempel-Ziv-Markov_algorithm

If I could find any commandline archiver that works with a test switch
on these SFX archive files that would solve it. I've tried several,
and so far none recognize these file formats.


jm...@webace.com.au

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On May 29, 7:55 pm, REM <REMbran...@netscape.com> wrote:

> If I could find any commandline archiver that works with a test switch
> on these SFX archive files that would solve it. I've tried several,
> and so far none recognize these file formats.

Here are some to look at.

ALZip
http://www.altools.net/
*NEW* Command Line : Automate repetitive tasks

Zipper
http://www.alstonlabs.com/aslutils.htm

Universal Extractor
http://www.legroom.net/software

Info-ZIP
http://www.info-zip.org/

CAM UnZip
http://www.camunzip.com/
http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=18229

MultiZipper
http://www.itsfree4u.com/util.shtml

MyZippa
http://www.saintlysoft.com/myzippa.htm

UnzipThemAll
http://www.dirfile.com/freeware/zip.htm


John Fitzsimons

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On Tue, 29 May 2007 01:31:00 +0200, "Sietse Fliege"
<change_.inv...@sf.slownet.invalid> wrote:

< snip >

>Maybe also worth checking out:
>ARchive iDentifier (ARiD) version 0.06 - 09.08.2006

>http://patkov-site.narod.ru/eng/programs.html

Thanks, but this program seems to only check files one by one. It
doesn't appear to be able to eg. check all the .exe files one has on
one's system.

Regards, John.

John Fitzsimons

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:36:42 -0500, REM <REMbr...@netscape.com>
wrote:

>> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Hi REM, an update.

>>>> What I would want is a program to auto catalogue (in win
>>>>98SE) all .exe (executable) programs (that aren't archives) on one's
>>>>system.

< snip >

>Eero still hasn't found time to update SHAID, but it still does a
>pretty good job of doing what you want:

>http://www.pcuf.fi/~heiska/shs/shaid.htm

< snip >

>http://www.woundedmoon.org/SHAID/ID.exe

>It will list all .exe files in "exe.txt"

It in fact listed more .exe files than Powerdesk could find !

>It will list all sfx files correctly in "SFX.TXT"

This was an identical list to the above.

>It will list all program files, along with sfx files packed with LZMA
>in "PROGRAM.TXT"

This list was empty.

< snip >

Unfortunately the lists don't differentiate between .exe files that
are archives and those that aren't. :-(

Using a win 98SE system.


Regards, John.

REM

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> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>>On Tue, 29 May 2007 01:31:00 +0200, "Sietse Fliege"

>>Maybe also worth checking out:


>>ARchive iDentifier (ARiD) version 0.06 - 09.08.2006

>>http://patkov-site.narod.ru/eng/programs.html

>Thanks, but this program seems to only check files one by one. It
>doesn't appear to be able to eg. check all the .exe files one has on
>one's system.

I did write the author and he promptly sent an updated program, but
there were crc errors. I asked that he try repacking and sending
again, but I've not heard back yet. His English is a bit weak, but I
am sure he will see "crc error" and reply again.

It will be pretty easy to set up the same utility to get a complete
list of .exe files and run them one at a time through this program, I
think... :)


REM

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> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>>It will list all .exe files in "exe.txt"

>It in fact listed more .exe files than Powerdesk could find !

It just uses the dir command redirected to a text file.

>>It will list all sfx files correctly in "SFX.TXT"

>This was an identical list to the above.

>>It will list all program files, along with sfx files packed with LZMA
>>in "PROGRAM.TXT"

>This list was empty.

>Unfortunately the lists don't differentiate between .exe files that


>are archives and those that aren't. :-(

>Using a win 98SE system.

I don't have a 98 machine anymore, but it should work properly.

Did you place "ID.exe" in the same directory as the SHAID v2.70 files?
It sounds like SHAID was not called properly. I recall that happening
to me while I was writing the utility.

I have to go to work, but I did receive an updated version of ARiD! It
detects Inno Setup files now. I'll see if I can use it the same was I
was using SHAID as soon as I get the time.


REM

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> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately the lists don't differentiate between .exe files that
>are archives and those that aren't. :-(

>Using a win 98SE system.

Have you had any luck yet, John? Did the utility that I made work
correctly with Shaid v2.70 and 98SE?

I found aother great utility to assist in identifying files, but I
must know what they are beforehand. Inno Setup, for instance, includes
"Inno" in the .exe header in old versions, but not in new versions of
Inno Setup.

So, what I need to do is to get various versions of Inno and create a
bunch of different setup .exe files with each version. Then, this
utility (TrIDscan) will scan the files made with each version and then
identify the unique bytes for me.

http://mark0.net/soft-tridscan-e.html

Then, I can send the work to the author of TrIDscan, and he will
incoprorate it in his other program, TrID:

http://mark0.net/soft-trid-e.html

The above will identify a great many files as is, but he needs some
help with SFX install files. He's trying to identify files of all
types and extensions, and he's doing a pretty good job of it.


John Fitzsimons

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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 06:10:10 -0500, REM <REMbr...@netscape.com>
wrote:

>> John Fitzsimons <DELETEu...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Hi REM,

>>Unfortunately the lists don't differentiate between .exe files that


>>are archives and those that aren't. :-(

>>Using a win 98SE system.

>Have you had any luck yet, John? Did the utility that I made work
>correctly with Shaid v2.70 and 98SE?

No, that is what I had used.

>I found aother great utility to assist in identifying files, but I
>must know what they are beforehand. Inno Setup, for instance, includes
>"Inno" in the .exe header in old versions, but not in new versions of
>Inno Setup.

>So, what I need to do is to get various versions of Inno and create a
>bunch of different setup .exe files with each version. Then, this
>utility (TrIDscan) will scan the files made with each version and then
>identify the unique bytes for me.

>http://mark0.net/soft-tridscan-e.html

Very clever. Thanks for the link.

>Then, I can send the work to the author of TrIDscan, and he will
>incoprorate it in his other program, TrID:

>http://mark0.net/soft-trid-e.html

Good.

>The above will identify a great many files as is, but he needs some
>help with SFX install files. He's trying to identify files of all
>types and extensions, and he's doing a pretty good job of it.

Well, I could scan a bundle of .exe files but I don't know whether it
would help you/him though. I just noticed that TrID can use wildcards.
I will take another look at it when I get some spare time.


Regards, John.

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