TBird 3 RC1 available
Craig
>
> We're happy to announce the first release candidate of Thunderbird 3,
> now available for download.
>
> Thunderbird 3 Release Candidate 1 is our latest development
> milestone. While this release is considered to be stable, it is
> intended for developers and members of our testing community to use
> for early evaluation and feedback. Users of this latest released
> version of Thunderbird should not expect all of their add-ons to work
> properly with this milestone.
>
> Thunderbird 3 Release Candidate 1 includes several features like
> Better Search, Tabbed email, and message archiving that build on the
> current Thunderbird 2.
>
> Please read the release notes for more details.
<http://stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-11-24-01>
fyi,
--
-Craig
John Corliss
Thanks, Craig. I'm definitely keeping an eye on TB3. Kinda worried about
losing functionality of my extensions though, for instance TB Autosave
Extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/755, which
I've been nursing along with MR Tech Toolkit. TB Autosave Extension is
how I back up all my archived email to individual files.
I loath the way that TB and OE store emails in one, big file. With the
advent of high speed internet connections and faster computers, they
should at least make being able to download emails as separate files and
option. Should have, in fact, long ago.
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UnsteadyKen
> Thanks, Craig. I'm definitely keeping an eye on TB3.
I tried it out last night, and had a fair few problems, I have 4 email
addy's and it combines the seperate inboxes into one, there seemed to
be no way to change accounts so I could only send from one of them and
the tab feature wouldn't work properly plus I couldn't get the screen
layout setup the way I prefer. I reinstalled v2 over the top and
everything was restored, perhaps it was my setup it didn't like, a
fresh install may be different.
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Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/
Craig
Yea...
That, Ken, is what they call a /feature/. <grin> Well, the first part
is. The expected behavior is that all new email will display through
this "smart folder." When you respond, the From: account should be your
default account /which can be changed by the drop-down/. Now, for me, I
like the feature... Kind of. I view the smart folder expanded such that
each accounts inbox is listed. I get the convenience of having all the
inboxes together (it *is* nice); I also can see the volume of each
account and, finally; when I do respond, the proper return addy is
referenced automatically.
There's an edit to turn this feature off but I can't put my finger on it
right now. If you're interested, it's been discussed on
<http://forums.mozillazine.org> or mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird.
Btw, your nym is a h00t.
--
-Craig
Craig
> Craig wrote:
>>> Please read the release notes for more details.
>>
>> <http://stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-11-24-01>
>
> losing functionality of my extensions though, for instance TB Autosave
> Extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/755, which
> I've been nursing along with MR Tech Toolkit. TB Autosave Extension is
> how I back up all my archived email to individual files.
Oh. I hadn't considered that. There may be something for you here
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Archiving_your_e-mail> or, more to the point,
check out Kaosmo's site. Choc-full of extensions
<http://www.nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/index-en.html>.
ImportExportTools might do what you need.
>
> I loath the way that TB and OE store emails in one, big file. With the
> advent of high speed internet connections and faster computers, they
> should at least make being able to download emails as separate files and
> option. Should have, in fact, long ago.
I seem to remember a client discussed here that managed mail like that.
Personally, that'd be too many files to keep track of.
It's interesting. TBird's taking a lot of heat (again). Last year it
was because TB3 development was stalled and now, it's because TB3 has
changed *so much* that TB2 users are practically shocked at the difference.
There are some really interesting ideas brewing at Mozilla Messaging for
future clients. Hopefully, they can manage the project and
*expectations* better next time around. Otherwise...
--
-Craig
John Corliss
> On 11/25/2009 02:26 AM, John Corliss wrote:
>> Craig wrote:
>>>> Please read the release notes for more details.
>>>
>>> <http://stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-11-24-01>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, Craig. I'm definitely keeping an eye on TB3. Kinda worried about
>> losing functionality of my extensions though, for instance TB Autosave
>> Extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/755, which
>> I've been nursing along with MR Tech Toolkit. TB Autosave Extension is
>> how I back up all my archived email to individual files.
>
> Oh. I hadn't considered that. There may be something for you here
> <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Archiving_your_e-mail> or, more to the point,
> check out Kaosmo's site. Choc-full of extensions
> <http://www.nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/index-en.html>.
> ImportExportTools might do what you need.
>
>>
>> I loath the way that TB and OE store emails in one, big file. With the
>> advent of high speed internet connections and faster computers, they
>> should at least make being able to download emails as separate files and
>> option. Should have, in fact, long ago.
>
> I seem to remember a client discussed here that managed mail like that.
> Personally, that'd be too many files to keep track of.
Not at all. Every year or so, I export all my archived email to
individual files the way I referred to. The extension names the emails
by date, sender, topic, etc. I organize them into the same folder
structure I have in TB and then .zip the whole lot up and name the file
for the range of dates of the emails within it. Works great and I can
find any email I want very easily.
> It's interesting. TBird's taking a lot of heat (again). Last year it
> was because TB3 development was stalled and now, it's because TB3 has
> changed *so much* that TB2 users are practically shocked at the difference.
>
> There are some really interesting ideas brewing at Mozilla Messaging for
> future clients. Hopefully, they can manage the project and
> *expectations* better next time around. Otherwise...
I'm still looking forward to improved usenet filtering.
Craig
> Craig wrote:
>> On 11/25/2009 02:26 AM, John Corliss wrote:
>>> Craig wrote:
>>>>> Please read the release notes for more details.
>>>>
>>>> <http://stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-11-24-01>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Craig. I'm definitely keeping an eye on TB3. Kinda worried about
>>> losing functionality of my extensions though, for instance TB Autosave
>>> Extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/755, which
>>> I've been nursing along with MR Tech Toolkit. TB Autosave Extension is
>>> how I back up all my archived email to individual files.
>>
>> Oh. I hadn't considered that. There may be something for you here
>> <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Archiving_your_e-mail> or, more to the
>> point, check out Kaosmo's site. Choc-full of extensions
>> <http://www.nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/index-en.html>.
>> ImportExportTools might do what you need.
>>
If you end up checking out the above, let us know...
> Not at all. Every year or so, I export all my archived email to
> individual files the way I referred to. The extension names the emails
> by date, sender, topic, etc. I organize them into the same folder
> structure I have in TB and then .zip the whole lot up and name the file
> for the range of dates of the emails within it. Works great and I can
> find any email I want very easily.
OK. Got it.
>
>
> I'm still looking forward to improved usenet filtering.
>
Well... The way it stands right now, it can be set up to filter against
any header and then do various things with the results. What it still
doesn't have is scoring, etc. But, there is an add-on for TB3 that
provides it... Can't remember the name right now. There was some
discussion in the last month on the mozilla ng's about folding that into
the core product for 3.1 but that was very preliminary.
--
-Craig
UnsteadyKen
> There's an edit to turn this feature off but I can't put my finger on it
> right now. If you're interested, it's been discussed on
> <http://forums.mozillazine.org> or mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird.
Thanks Craig, I think I'll wait until the final is out and then really
learn how to use it properly.
> Btw, your nym is a h00t.
It was bestowed on me by the WWW fairies, after I came out of hospital
I joined a couple of stroke forums and was trying to give myself a
username that indicated which country I was in and typed; or so I
thought, "UnitedKingdom Ken", at that time I wasn't aware that my left
hand was being controlled by a deranged hamster and the forum software
replied... You can't be Un"slkjhhￜ$ Ken did you mean Unsteady Ken?
I looked at my walking stick and thought... Yes! That's me! So I've
used it everywhere for the last 5 years, seems to be nearly unique as
googling brings up only a few thousand hits, though I do seem to be
leaving aninternet trail a mile wide.
Thip
"UnsteadyKen" <unste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7n5llpF...@mid.individual.net...
>
> It was bestowed on me by the WWW fairies, after I came out of hospital
> I joined a couple of stroke forums and was trying to give myself a
> username that indicated which country I was in and typed; or so I
> thought, "UnitedKingdom Ken", at that time I wasn't aware that my left
> hand was being controlled by a deranged hamster and the forum software
> replied... You can't be Un"slkjhhￜ$ Ken did you mean Unsteady Ken?
>
> I looked at my walking stick and thought... Yes! That's me! So I've
> used it everywhere for the last 5 years, seems to be nearly unique as
> googling brings up only a few thousand hits, though I do seem to be
> leaving aninternet trail a mile wide.
>
> --
I had a Scottish friend who couldn't type worth a hoot (he said his fingers
were too thick), and he tried to say he was going to "thump" me on the nose.
It came out "thip" and a new nick was born.
Dewey Edwards
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:58 -0500, "Thip" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>I had a Scottish friend who couldn't type worth a hoot (he said his fingers
>were too thick), and he tried to say he was going to "thump" me on the nose.
>It came out "thip" and a new nick was born.
Being Scottish, I need a "thump" keyboard! :)
Craig
>
>
> "UnsteadyKen" <unste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7n5llpF...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> username that indicated which country I was in and typed; or so I
>> thought, "UnitedKingdom Ken", at that time I wasn't aware that my left
>> hand was being controlled by a deranged hamster and the forum software
>> replied... You can't be Un"slkjhhￜ$ Ken did you mean Unsteady Ken?
>
> I had a Scottish friend who couldn't type worth a hoot (he said his
> fingers were too thick), and he tried to say he was going to "thump" me
> on the nose. It came out "thip" and a new nick was born.
You two have been... misnomered. Thx for the smile.
--
-Craig
John Corliss
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Craig wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>> Craig wrote:
>>>>>> Please read the release notes for more details.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-11-24-01>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Craig. I'm definitely keeping an eye on TB3. Kinda worried
>>>> about losing functionality of my extensions though, for instance TB Autosave
>>>> Extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/755,
>>>> which I've been nursing along with MR Tech Toolkit. TB Autosave Extension is
>>>> how I back up all my archived email to individual files.
>>>
>>> Oh. I hadn't considered that. There may be something for you here
>>> <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Archiving_your_e-mail> or, more to the
>>> point, check out Kaosmo's site. Choc-full of extensions
>>> <http://www.nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/index-en.html>.
>>> ImportExportTools might do what you need.
>
> If you end up checking out the above, let us know...
I just looked at it:
http://www.nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html
and it seems to be what I want but it's too bad that the extensions
aren't listed on the TB Extensions site (AFAICT). Also, I'm curious
about how the extension renames the files, if it does.
As for testing it out, I'd prefer to wait until I try TB3.
>> (snip)
>> I'm still looking forward to improved usenet filtering.
>
> Well... The way it stands right now, it can be set up to filter against
> any header and then do various things with the results. What it still
> doesn't have is scoring, etc. But, there is an add-on for TB3 that
> provides it... Can't remember the name right now. There was some
> discussion in the last month on the mozilla ng's about folding that into
> the core product for 3.1 but that was very preliminary.
Never really used scoring, don't find much use for it. YMMV though.