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Curious  
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 More options Feb 8 2010, 7:25 pm
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From: Curious <ggl...@carpelibris.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:25:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Feb 8 2010 7:25 pm
Subject: Request to identify DBMS that uses .bt and .ov entities (files?)
I have an old database file (named *.db) that refers to what could be
a relational structure with entities that have names ending in .bt and
ov. I'm calling them entities because I don't know whether the .db
file unpacks to create a bunch of .bt and .ov files (probably key and
data files?) or if these names belong to data structures that stay in
the .db file.

Does anybody know what DBMS would have been used to read this file?
I'd love to get at the info that it holds but finding the correct DBMS
will save me days of decoding the file by hand.

I can see what I describe above by looking at the file with a binary
editor - slow and cumbersome at best.

Thank you for any insight that you can provide.


 
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Steve Hayes  
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 More options Feb 9 2010, 3:53 am
Newsgroups: alt.comp.databases, comp.databases
From: Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:53:49 +0200
Local: Tues, Feb 9 2010 3:53 am
Subject: Re: Request to identify DBMS that uses .bt and .ov entities (files?)
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:25:21 -0800 (PST), Curious <ggl...@carpelibris.com>
wrote:

>I have an old database file (named *.db) that refers to what could be
>a relational structure with entities that have names ending in .bt and
>ov. I'm calling them entities because I don't know whether the .db
>file unpacks to create a bunch of .bt and .ov files (probably key and
>data files?) or if these names belong to data structures that stay in
>the .db file.

Paradox data files use the .db ending.

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Ben Finney  
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 More options Feb 9 2010, 5:57 am
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From: Ben Finney <bignose+hates-s...@benfinney.id.au>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:57:51 +1100
Local: Tues, Feb 9 2010 5:57 am
Subject: Re: Request to identify DBMS that uses .bt and .ov entities (files?)

Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> writes:
> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:25:21 -0800 (PST), Curious <ggl...@carpelibris.com>
> wrote:

> >I have an old database file (named *.db) that refers to what could be
> >a relational structure with entities that have names ending in .bt and
> >ov. I'm calling them entities because I don't know whether the .db
> >file unpacks to create a bunch of .bt and .ov files (probably key and
> >data files?) or if these names belong to data structures that stay in
> >the .db file.

> Paradox data files use the .db ending.

So, traditionally, do many other database systems. Even non-relational
ones like Berkeley DB.

The OP would be well advised to look to clues other than the filename
suffix for what kind of data is stored in there.

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Curious  
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 More options Feb 9 2010, 12:26 pm
Newsgroups: alt.comp.databases, comp.databases
From: Curious <ggl...@carpelibris.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:26:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 9 2010 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Request to identify DBMS that uses .bt and .ov entities (files?)
Perhaps the SP (subsequent poster) could elaborate on what else to
look for?

I am guessing that the db file is a container of the files or pseudo-
files that make up the database. I can tell that the directory
structure of this .db file has 26 byte entries, consisting of the file
name (right-padded with nulls) and some other numerical data I haven't
decoded yet. Each entry in the directory structure looks like a file
name ending with either .bt or .ov. More than that on the .db file I
don't know.

What can I do to unpack this .db file and extract its component
pieces? I've tried zip, arc, rar,...

Looking past the directory structure in the .db file I see what looks
like the data file pieces. The text is not encrypted or compressed and
there are lots of non-printing data that are probably the index and
addressing parts of the database.

If you tell me what to look for, I can look for it. If I can identify
the DBMS, I'll be able to read the data. Or, I could write a script to
extract it and put it into sql for further analysis.

Thanks for your help.

On Feb 9, 3:57 am, Ben Finney <bignose+hates-s...@benfinney.id.au>
wrote:


 
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Jasen Betts  
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 More options Feb 12 2010, 4:09 am
Newsgroups: alt.comp.databases, comp.databases
From: Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz>
Date: 12 Feb 2010 09:09:55 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 12 2010 4:09 am
Subject: Re: Request to identify DBMS that uses .bt and .ov entities (files?)
On 2010-02-09, Curious <ggl...@carpelibris.com> wrote:

> I am guessing that the db file is a container of the files or pseudo-
> files that make up the database. I can tell that the directory
> structure of this .db file has 26 byte entries, consisting of the file
> name (right-padded with nulls) and some other numerical data I haven't
> decoded yet. Each entry in the directory structure looks like a file
> name ending with either .bt or .ov. More than that on the .db file I
> don't know.

> What can I do to unpack this .db file and extract its component
> pieces? I've tried zip, arc, rar,...

padded filenames suggests DOS or CP/M

the binary data is probably the file's timestamp and length

have you tried nlib.

> If you tell me what to look for, I can look for it. If I can identify
> the DBMS, I'll be able to read the data. Or, I could write a script to
> extract it and put it into sql for further analysis.

have you asked file?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command)

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