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Brian Gaff
Feb 24, 2012, 1:38:07 PM2/24/12
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OK, we have the BBC player, which thanks to the webbie interface allows easy
access to audio described bbc shows for a limited period fairly easily.
I know about the ch4 on demand, which seems to work, though have not the
foggiest idea if AD shows are on there or if they are how to get to them.
Then there is ITV, which seems to send you around in circles and never find
how to play the shows, and add the above as ch4, then there is demand 5,
which not only has got some strange logic, though not as bad as itv, but
seems to be saying if you have an ad blocker then turni it of before you can
see anything.
What a shambles. So why can't they all get together and use the same
interfaces, the ch4 one looks quite accessible, and simple to understand
logic on where programmes might be with, heaven forbid, two play buttons,
one for ad and one for not, Or I suppose three if you want subtitles. or
maybe simple checkboxes for the choices. It ought not to be rocket science
these days..
Sigh.
Brian
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access to audio described bbc shows for a limited period fairly easily.
I know about the ch4 on demand, which seems to work, though have not the
foggiest idea if AD shows are on there or if they are how to get to them.
Then there is ITV, which seems to send you around in circles and never find
how to play the shows, and add the above as ch4, then there is demand 5,
which not only has got some strange logic, though not as bad as itv, but
seems to be saying if you have an ad blocker then turni it of before you can
see anything.
What a shambles. So why can't they all get together and use the same
interfaces, the ch4 one looks quite accessible, and simple to understand
logic on where programmes might be with, heaven forbid, two play buttons,
one for ad and one for not, Or I suppose three if you want subtitles. or
maybe simple checkboxes for the choices. It ought not to be rocket science
these days..
Sigh.
Brian
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John Doe
Feb 24, 2012, 4:19:31 PM2/24/12
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Does an ad blocker help the blind when browsing?
Brian Gaff
Feb 25, 2012, 12:45:32 AM2/25/12
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Of course it does, less crap to wad through with the cursor keys and often
graphic ads can screw up the access software or produce gibberish.
Brian
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graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
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graphic ads can screw up the access software or produce gibberish.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
Feb 25, 2012, 5:29:46 AM2/25/12
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In message <ji9sht$l0c$1...@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
connection. Of course, graphic ad.s, if the connection is fast enough,
have no effect - which is handy for ad-supported things like Eudora!
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<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
>Of course it does, less crap to wad through with the cursor keys and
>often graphic ads can screw up the access software or produce
>gibberish.
> Brian
[]
>Of course it does, less crap to wad through with the cursor keys and
>often graphic ads can screw up the access software or produce
>gibberish.
> Brian
>"John Doe" <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Does an ad blocker help the blind when browsing?
>
>
What Brian said - it can certainly speed things up if on a slow
>news:4f47fee3$0$24406$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com...
>> Does an ad blocker help the blind when browsing?
>
>
connection. Of course, graphic ad.s, if the connection is fast enough,
have no effect - which is handy for ad-supported things like Eudora!
--
J. P. Gilliver.
Get off me, you filthy sofa! (First series, fit the sixth.)
Brian Gaff
Feb 26, 2012, 3:52:28 AM2/26/12
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I'm not so sure they have no effect. The sites I go to are annoying with
ads. IE Ads by google and they are right in the middle of stories or
strewn at random in amongst files you might want to download.
I personally get really fed up with the so called targeted ads for venetian
blinds as well.
grin.
One recent problem is that graphical or flash content can cause things to
slow down or have huge apparent gaps in them or worse, traps where you
cannot get away.
news:QsrUmNaa...@soft255.demon.co.uk...
ads. IE Ads by google and they are right in the middle of stories or
strewn at random in amongst files you might want to download.
I personally get really fed up with the so called targeted ads for venetian
blinds as well.
grin.
One recent problem is that graphical or flash content can cause things to
slow down or have huge apparent gaps in them or worse, traps where you
cannot get away.
Brian
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burt1...@gmail.com
Feb 27, 2012, 12:53:00 PM2/27/12
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I think you guys and girls in the UK are pretty lucky although the BBC
is insane when it comes to how they handle the internet side of their
biz. I've not checked lately whether or not they still have low and no
graphics options. I've not checked as the standard article pages are so
nicely accessible that I don't need to do more than a couple or three
keystrokes and read. The pages even work well with Orca and Linux firefox.
Anyway, that's not my main question. I am not a UK citizen, and live on
the other side of the big pond, so I can't access most video, TV, and
some radio. The radio doesn't seem to matter as I can even get most of
the local stations in the non UK version, and don't seem to be missing
anything. Of course I've never heard the UK versions of these stations,
so maybe all the best is replaced by junk...grins??? I really enjoy the
BBC, so I'd like a work around. Is there any alternative other than a
proxy? I doubt it, and as I'd often be wanting to listen via a media
player of some sort mplayer from the Linux CLI, Totem from Linux GUI,
VLC either Linux or Windows, and the webIE Iplayer among others. I used
to use real player for the BBC, but I guess that's gone for good, or to
next week when they get someone new or bored in charge of media streams.lol
I've gone on enough&still not clearly asked the big question, which is:
what is the easiest free proxi strategy?
I installed foxi-proxi, (maybe misspelled), on at least one firefox
instance, but when I went looking for free proxys I got more confused
than anything. A couple that I tried did seem to connect, at least for a
while, but when I tried to navigate away from the site I started out on
I lost the proxy. Is this normal, or did I either do something wrong,
have a less than desirable proxy, or just some connection issue?
I'd appreciate an idiot's guide to proxys. I mostly use Linux, but if
for some reason things are easier from windows can go that route.
Regards,
Burt
On 02/24/2012 12:38 PM, Brian Gaff wrote:
> OK, we have the BBC player, which thanks to the webbie interface allows easy
> access to audio described bbc shows for a limited period fairly easily.
> I know about the ch4 on demand, which seems to work, though have not the
> foggiest idea if AD shows are on there or if they are how to get to them.
> Then there is ITV, which seems to send you around in circles and never find
> how to play the shows, and add the above as ch4, then there is demand 5,
> which not only has got some strange logic, though not as bad as itv, but
> seems to be saying if you have an ad blocker then turni it of before you can
> see anything.
> What a shambles. So why can't they all get together and use the same
> interfaces, the ch4 one looks quite accessible, and simple to understand
> logic on where programmes might be with, heaven forbid, two play buttons,
> one for ad and one for not, Or I suppose three if you want subtitles. or
> maybe simple checkboxes for the choices. It ought not to be rocket science
> these days..
> Sigh.
> Brian
>
--
Burt
is insane when it comes to how they handle the internet side of their
biz. I've not checked lately whether or not they still have low and no
graphics options. I've not checked as the standard article pages are so
nicely accessible that I don't need to do more than a couple or three
keystrokes and read. The pages even work well with Orca and Linux firefox.
Anyway, that's not my main question. I am not a UK citizen, and live on
the other side of the big pond, so I can't access most video, TV, and
some radio. The radio doesn't seem to matter as I can even get most of
the local stations in the non UK version, and don't seem to be missing
anything. Of course I've never heard the UK versions of these stations,
so maybe all the best is replaced by junk...grins??? I really enjoy the
BBC, so I'd like a work around. Is there any alternative other than a
proxy? I doubt it, and as I'd often be wanting to listen via a media
player of some sort mplayer from the Linux CLI, Totem from Linux GUI,
VLC either Linux or Windows, and the webIE Iplayer among others. I used
to use real player for the BBC, but I guess that's gone for good, or to
next week when they get someone new or bored in charge of media streams.lol
I've gone on enough&still not clearly asked the big question, which is:
what is the easiest free proxi strategy?
I installed foxi-proxi, (maybe misspelled), on at least one firefox
instance, but when I went looking for free proxys I got more confused
than anything. A couple that I tried did seem to connect, at least for a
while, but when I tried to navigate away from the site I started out on
I lost the proxy. Is this normal, or did I either do something wrong,
have a less than desirable proxy, or just some connection issue?
I'd appreciate an idiot's guide to proxys. I mostly use Linux, but if
for some reason things are easier from windows can go that route.
Regards,
Burt
On 02/24/2012 12:38 PM, Brian Gaff wrote:
> OK, we have the BBC player, which thanks to the webbie interface allows easy
> access to audio described bbc shows for a limited period fairly easily.
> I know about the ch4 on demand, which seems to work, though have not the
> foggiest idea if AD shows are on there or if they are how to get to them.
> Then there is ITV, which seems to send you around in circles and never find
> how to play the shows, and add the above as ch4, then there is demand 5,
> which not only has got some strange logic, though not as bad as itv, but
> seems to be saying if you have an ad blocker then turni it of before you can
> see anything.
> What a shambles. So why can't they all get together and use the same
> interfaces, the ch4 one looks quite accessible, and simple to understand
> logic on where programmes might be with, heaven forbid, two play buttons,
> one for ad and one for not, Or I suppose three if you want subtitles. or
> maybe simple checkboxes for the choices. It ought not to be rocket science
> these days..
> Sigh.
> Brian
>
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burt1...@gmail.com
Feb 27, 2012, 1:25:30 PM2/27/12
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I have used addblock+ for most of the time I've used firefox, which is
most of the time I've been back on line after the better part of a
decade away from easy internet access, and living in conditions that
were less than ideal for maintaining a working computer. Yes, it can
certainly help when connections are limited, (like here in the room I
rent to avoid an almost impossible commute to work. (not that there's
much work these days sadly) Many of you remember my triple posted msg's
from a couple of years ago when this connection was at its worst. BTW, I
have really good internet at "home" now, and it keeps getting better.
Actually add blockers don't make so much difference on most well
designed pages for the blind web-browser however. Most blind folk use
keyboard shortcuts to jump from heading to heading, or to skip to
content. These, as well as other keyboard nav keys that put us on edit
fields, buttons and the like mean we are often unaware of advertising
that the sighted person will see. Also when a page redirects passing for
some banners and the like the only thing I know much of the time is that
the pages are changing, and that my content is taking a few extra
seconds to load.
As an aside, I have gotten annoyed with hearing blinks complaining about
having to hear a few seconds of an audio advert on a free program that
came out a couple of months back when they don't have to deal with
nearly the amount of advertising that a sight person does.
Actually, I've found that once in a while I like to turn off my add
blocker to see what they are trying to sell me.
Cheers,
B.H.
most of the time I've been back on line after the better part of a
decade away from easy internet access, and living in conditions that
were less than ideal for maintaining a working computer. Yes, it can
certainly help when connections are limited, (like here in the room I
rent to avoid an almost impossible commute to work. (not that there's
much work these days sadly) Many of you remember my triple posted msg's
from a couple of years ago when this connection was at its worst. BTW, I
have really good internet at "home" now, and it keeps getting better.
Actually add blockers don't make so much difference on most well
designed pages for the blind web-browser however. Most blind folk use
keyboard shortcuts to jump from heading to heading, or to skip to
content. These, as well as other keyboard nav keys that put us on edit
fields, buttons and the like mean we are often unaware of advertising
that the sighted person will see. Also when a page redirects passing for
some banners and the like the only thing I know much of the time is that
the pages are changing, and that my content is taking a few extra
seconds to load.
As an aside, I have gotten annoyed with hearing blinks complaining about
having to hear a few seconds of an audio advert on a free program that
came out a couple of months back when they don't have to deal with
nearly the amount of advertising that a sight person does.
Actually, I've found that once in a while I like to turn off my add
blocker to see what they are trying to sell me.
Cheers,
B.H.
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