reporting cyber bullying
Michael Weaver
I ask because I have been bullied on this usenet group and also on the
alt.disability.blind.social usenet group as well and the cyber bullying
began since I emailed this group asking for websites putting me in touch
with self defence classes after the gladiatorial atmosphere which existed
when I was at New College Worcester and RNC.
I called the RNIB yesterday in tears because of threats to my safety over me
having a girlfriend since attending New College and RNC and because of a
certain person on this group bullying me by saying I need counselling rather
than physical backing over my concerns and this person didn't even suggest
any solution other than counselling. It is this person's lack of sensativity
which is even forcing me to even consider calling out a sex worker to come
and see me for a tempoary girlfriend experience because I am not getting
much moral support apart from my mate who works in the Nursery at Dewsbury
College who does believe I have been threatened over girls her age even if
she gets picked on herself because she is Dyslexic and maybe doesn't have
the inteligence or the courage to stand up to the people victimising me.
Unlike the person who added to my list of problem people who have had me on
the phone to the RNIB crying my eyes out over the loss of a girlfriend to
drugs and feeling that certain people should know better than to bat for the
drug dealers so to speak I have had to rely on my mate who might not be the
brightest person or have the courage to put up a physical fight for me but
she outshines certain people, acting like she is much brighter than she may
actually be.
bando?ers
I have responded to your posts in good faith, but I am getting tired of
your "poor bullied me" attitude. In my view no comment on your posts
has been less than helpful and in good faith. If you are really out of
it you may have understood something to the effect of "let's take it off
of the group" as a challenge to fight? You are really far gone to
think that. I only offered to discuss life experience with you in a
more personal and private context; mostly for your benefit, but also for
the good of the rest of the people who don't want to hear this kind of
stuff. How do you post to use-net? Surely there are terms of service
or some kind of agreement you clicked and or click to publish your
ramblings. With in aforementioned terms and condissions, or in a FAQ
they normally say something about abuse....
I for one am now fed up/get your help somewhere else. If on the other
hand you would like to stay with in the traditional topic range of
these groups, get the chip off your shoulder, relax,...and there should
be no probs.
Sincerely,
Burt Henry
F$ck the p�lice! (anyone remember NWA?
Steve Urbach
<drago...@NOTmindspring.com>
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John Doe
> How do I report Cyber Bullying? I ask because I have been
> bullied on this usenet group...
> I called the RNIB yesterday in tears because of...a certain
> person on this group bullying me by saying I need counselling
> rather than physical backing over my concerns and this person
> didn't even suggest any solution other than counselling. It is
> this person's lack of sensativity...
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
If you cannot tolerate insensitivity, USENET is not for you.
In other words, forget about reporting anyone for being
insensitive on USENET. You must learn to cope or find another
forum. If you cannot handle insensitivity, you should try using a
moderated web site forum (I guess, maybe someone else can
recommend one). The USENET and ego are almost mutually exclusive.
bando?ers
syber-bullying his ...he has not even flamed on these groups...(I have)
so bleeping what!...grin...exasperated sighs....Good night all.
Burt Henry
Please don't let them take my bits away....my bits are byting me....Mama
tried to raise me better....and in honor of weird Al "dead puppies
aren't much fun.
bando?ers
but this group has been very kind to Mike in my opinion: kind, but
honest. You too.
B.H.
John Doe escribi�:
Brian Gaff
emails generated. There is no law that says anything cannot be posted on the
groups.
When you use Usenet, you develop asbestos sensibilities. I take it all with
a pinch of salt really. Of course if its a direct threat to the person then
you can talk to the police in the jurisdiction of the perpetrator, but many
people with this kind of attitude will munge their email and you may well be
able to find them by looking at the header for the originating IP address
and finding out which isp that is from one of the many sites this can now be
done on. I tend to use senderbase as its often that I'm checking it for
spammers.
Of course if they posteded through google groups you are probably on a
hiding to nothing.
If its just opinions though, no matter how wrong you feel them to be, just
live with it as the rest of us do!
I'm not paranoid, I know they are out to get me!
Brian
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"Michael Weaver" <michael...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Brian Gaff
problem.
I really do think that for anything to be called cyber bullying, it has to
be personal and in email. On newsgroups its just general banter most of the
time and one can ignore it. Of course if its defamatory and traceable then
one might have some cause for concern, but I've seen nothing in the threads
to suggest anything at all out of the ordinary.
If the rest of the world seems to be out to get you, then it just might be
that its you not them.
I have been there, so don't think its at all odd to think its not you, but
the sooner you can even think it might be you, the better.
Brian
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Email: bri...@blueyonder.co.uk
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"bando?ers" <burt1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Michael Weaver
Maybe I am wrong about you as you did seem to calm things down despite what
I said.
I was hurt over you saying I should take counselling rather than self
defence classes or any other solution as counselling has been tried several
times and the fact the only solution a lot of people in the UK not all come
up with when my personal life has been sabotaged is counselling.
This has also got to do with other issues not known about like the fact my
family seem to favour my younger sister's relationships over mine and that
while I feel that I am having to conduct relationships in a bad atmosphere
where I am being threatened and the girl is either being threatened or
having her life mapped out for her my younger sister is being encouraged to
plan her wedding next year and the way my mum and dad constantly discuss it,
it is like everyone in the immediate family is comfortable about it going
ahead. I am not even comfortable with the entire relationship and the fact
she soon took up home with the boyfriend and it has nothing to do with me
not liking the boyfriend. It is to do with the lack of support over me
losing one girfriend to drugs, other girls having their lives mapped out for
them by family and friends of which I am no part and the fact my sister has
been known to show double standards, ie coming to me in tears and saying she
would Marry her boyfriend but he is frightened of dad yet she thought it was
fine when I felt dad was frightening my girlfriends or trying to impose him
and mum's opinion of me on them so my relationships won't get off the
ground.
Like I said to the RNIB when I called them the only thing dad doesn't
support me with is me having a partner while him and mum are 100 percent
behind my 30 year old sister's relationship. Dad leads with an attitude like
I shouldn't get support over me losing a possible girlfriend to drugs, mum
says she doesn't understand but follows along and my sister tries to be my
dad's mini me so it has got to a stage where my sister's remark of "you
might find someone at the wedding" may have come a bit late in the day. I
didn't for example get support from my sister when I found out only through
Facebook that one of her friends who had been intimate with me had got
engaged to someone else and that possibly the first signs might have been
that her mobile number was unavailable before I got a message saying she
wanted me to add her profile to my friends list and after accepting the
request I read about her engagement while viewing the profile of this friend
of my sister.
I do not lie when I stated having lost a potential girlfriend to Heroin
abuse and she was trying to fight my corner after I told her about the
gladiatorial attitude at New College and RNC, incidents including one girl I
dated coming to me in tears after being called a Fat Slag at RNC only I was
made a scapegoat for those who were responsible because of my age and gender
by members of staff who were left in charge because the principle there was
too old to disciplin the students concerned. The principle was a nice person
because I had a drink with him and he even knocked a pint of Cider on me one
time but I think he was too much a grandfather type figure and if I had been
the type of person I had problems with, I wouldn't have seen him as a
domineering person. He was someone I got on with which was fine but a
pushover to the bullies. The same thing was true of the principle who ran
Worcester during my time in the 1990s. He was an approachable person as well
although I never socialised with him like the principle at RNC when I was
there from 1995 to 1997 but I think he too left disciplin to staff who were
seriously unsympathetic towards me who took sides with the student bullies
such as the Senior teacher who was certainly on the side of the ringleaders
and his cronies like one lad who publically bragged he could obtain stolen
goods.
I have even been told allbeit privately things that went on at New College
confirming my concerns as to why I feel I am treading on eggshells over
relationships ie the rape of at least one person I thought I trusted who I
eventually tracked down when it was too late and maybe this other girl I
named on another Usenet group which Mr Gaff responded too after I said I was
looking for her because unlike some she didn't make pretense of friendship
at Worcester was also raped as I was told at least more than one girl was.
I myself was sexually molested by a man who I thought was a friend who used
to arrange all the classical music concert trips which students attended in
the mid 1990s when I was there and this wouldn't have happened if certain
staff hadn't either turned the other cheek, knowing I was being bullied by
aggressive people in and around my age or worse even whipping up the
bullying which I know is a fact because such behaviour has even been
mentioned in what used to be "New Beacon" and I believe the article was
sometime after I left RNC, it was a February issue, I think 1998 and the
article was headed "Bullying in special Schools" and it even implied that
staff encouraged such bullying and sexual assault because the author or
authors were victims of bullying and sex assault themselves and they stated
this problem as going as far back as the 1960s so you are talking about
something like 10 years at least even before I were born because I wasn't
even born until 1977.
Even if me and Mr Gaff sort out our differences on this which I hope this
clears up the misunderstanding I still feel that I am treading on eggshells
despite this one girl risking her life to try and change this and I still
maintain there are older adults I should be looking up to who back the wrong
people which was why this girl who ended up on drugs tried to act on my
behalf by making phone calls to people responsible for the bullying with the
help from her youngest sister as well and after feeling let down, this girl
who ended up a drug user was right to back me if the law doesn't protect
someone in their 30s and male because that has been the impression I have
been given even by immediate family members.
I can't understand why certain people think the British culture should
encourage other young people to lord it over me as regards relationships
despite me losing this girl to drugs and despite the death of the person who
could have been my first girlfriend to Cervical Cancer. The girl who died of
Cancer would have been my first girlfriend if she had not died at the age of
7. I say that person was my first girlfriend because her mum has photos of
us hanging around together and we seemed to celibrate our Birthdays on the
same day even though I was told by her mum when I saw her before Tapton
Mount closed that her daughter was maybe a day or a year older than me.
What irks me is that there are young people with serious alcohol problems
an/or criminal records for violence and drug offences like the people that
girl on Heroin ended up seeing and they don't get a rough ride for being
with their partners unless of course it happens to be from the press if they
are twenty something pop stars maybe caught on film smoking or injecting
coke.
I maybe British born and Bred and I am aware that I do have mates like one
girl who is in her twenties but I condemn the British culture if it believes
in double standards when it comes to bullying and personal relationships
where a guy of my age is not encouraged to have action taken on their behalf
just because of some stand up commic who represents all I hate about people
in and around my age in both genders ie me being picked on for my enjoyment
of horror fiction, fiction being the literal sense yet the student bullies
had things like a video called "The good, the bad" by this particular commic
in their possession when I was at Worcester in the 1990s and nobody accused
them of using such material to target my relationships such as a rap which
starts with words along the lines of "Born in the middle of 45, growing up I
was bearly alive" and the rest of it isn't repeatable with it going on about
the private parts of a priest, a duck's rear end and something filling the
air relating to kidney function and although we all do this in both genders
it was refering to a woman in this rap.
I am arguing that this is why I feel I am having to look over my shoulder
trying to have a girlfriend and also why certain people I should be looking
up to have disregarded my concerns at best and at worst encouraged a
situation where I feel threatened regardless of any private discussions with
a girl on being intimate with her whereas this commic I feel is to blame for
this is all out public on things which may or may not be discussed in
private when it comes to relationships and some of this stuff this
particular commic comes out with may not be even discussed in a
relationship.
The attitude seems to be at the moment until I have a girlfriend that some
guys my age if not all have an obsession with this particular commic so why
should people feel sympathy if a guy who wants a peaceful life gets it in
the neck off the back of the behaviour of these guys with a liking for this
verry unpleasant entertainer. To me I am getting an attitude of some young
guys like this so called entertainer so the assumption is all young guys
have forced sexual relationships and that is what is getting me down.
Mike Russell
> To me I am getting an attitude of some young
> guys like this so called entertainer so the assumption is all young guys
> have forced sexual relationships and that is what is getting me down.
This tears my heart. The first order of business is to understand the
meaning of privacy. Stop pouring your innermost life out over the internet
like this. It's not going to help and could hurt, as you mention because
of cyber-bullying.
Then find a friend who will share these experiences and thoughts with you.
This kind of sharing is not meant for public consumption.
All the best.
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Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com
bando?ers
(maybe a private fantasy or three for many, a bit of stupid adolescent
bragging, but no action); and this is in no way to deny that there is
date-rape, unwanted fondling in subway cars and the like, and yes real
(REAL) bullying's.
Apart from that, well said Mike R.
Peace,
B.H.
Mike Russell escribi�:
chris mcmillan
<jd...@usenetlove.invalid> writes
A quick look on yahoogroups shows 'blinklink', blind chit chat, and
there will be others. Just keep wading through the pages. I haven't
time to look at more than half a dozen. Blind chit chat is moderated.
Sincerely Chris
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Chris McMillan
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