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Shane

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Oct 16, 2005, 4:43:34 AM10/16/05
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Chapter 2.

I awoke on my back, in the middle of a haystack. After my inadvertent acid
trip of the day before, I felt wonderful, rejuvenated, at peace; my mind was
clear and sharp! I rolled over and was stuck by a little prick, and it came
rushing back to me - OMIGAWD! SUGIEN! Even now I almost turned for home; but
then I pictured him, his elbow in the bidet, knew I owed him everything and
could not abandon him in his hour of need. I guess it was a good omen that
I'd already found the needle. Now all I had to do was my ablutions, and sort
the wheat from my chuff.

Back on the dirt track the 666 had become, listening to the rhythmic drone
of one of the Viper's mufflers dragging along the road, my mind drifted back
to the Café Wa La!

I'd been treading water at my table for fifteen minutes when Garçon the
waiter swam over and took my order. "COFFEE!" I shouted, "Vooz
know...COFFEE!" and made the international sign for drinking coffee. An
Oberleutnant at the next table gave me an uncomfortably quizzical look. I
continued to peruse the menu and, when Garçon returned with the coffee, I
gave the code I'd been taught under hypnosis back in Moorgate (Essex):
"Quelles sont les fritures de liberté?". "Ah!" he said, arching an eyebrow
and gesturing with it towards a table in the middle of the Seine: "Vont avec
le grand masturbator, il est un expert en matière de fritures de liberté!".
I glanced nonchalantly in the direction he'd indicated, to a man who at
first sight looked seedy enough to be a collaborator. He was floating with
the buoyancy of a bag of wind, bobbing on the bow wave of a passing
bateux-mouche, leering like a pederast, with a french fry sticking out of
each nostril to the evident delight of the squad of Stormtroopers with whom
he was pretending RL friendship. That was the first time I set eyes upon
Sugien.

I nursed my coffee until Garçon slipped me a note. It told me to be at the
same table at noon the following day, but Sugien didn't show. Little did I
know then, that in not doing so he'd saved my life!

Two weeks later I hitched passage on a tramp steamer to Algiers, made my way
to Tripoli by camel then got a ride to Alexandria in an ambulance with a
Capt. Anson and entourage, only to learn I'd been seconded to a new Commando
unit (that would become famous as The Desert Rats) at present training in
the Western Desert. Imagine my shock to find, upon joining my new unit, that
the OIC was none other than the enigmatic fellow from the Café Wa La!,
(Capt.) Sugien!

It was a command that would lead to one of the most famous and decisive
incidents of the Second World War, when Sugien was captured by (and escaped
from), the Afrika Korps. In 1953 this brew-ha-rofl (in an excellent example
of American heroism being attributed to the British), saw Sugien portrayed
as a Scot by Richard Burton in director Robert Wise's movie "The Desert
Rats". One glaring inaccuracy was how, in the movie, during interrogation
whilst having a gunshot wound attended to, Capt. MacRoberts does not say
"Phooey!" to Rommel, as Sugien did in real life. The incident is omitted in
it's entirety, thus rendering the suspension of disbelief ultimately
unsustainable. Once MacRoberts had escaped - without having said "Phooey!"
to the legendary Field Marshall, shaking him and undermining his authority
to a degree he would never quite recover from - the audience was waiting for
Wilson, Kepple and Betty to shuffle into shot!

Incidentally, Wise - who seemingly had a chip on his shoulder where this
capital fellow was concerned - was, after the war, inspired by Sugien's
unguarded and uncharacteristically unsubtle intimation that all who wish ill
of him end up murdered, to cast Paul Newman as boxer Cacky Sugiano in 1956's
"Nobody Up There Likes Me!" The story, about a punchy prize fighter who
makes extravagant threats to his opponents during the weigh-in but always
finds an excuse not to go into the ring, of course, bombed. It was obvious
who it lampooned; and Senator McCarthy - for whom Sugien was a role model -
was particularly scathing. Newman's career was fortunate to recover, and
tellingly, Wise died a mere forty-nine years later!

As an aside, it never fails to astound me the sheer number of movies this
man inspired! After meeting him pre-war, WC Fields based probably his second
most famous character on Sugien in 1940's "The Wank-Dick". That was followed
in 1941 by the adaptation of Sugien's First World War memoirs for the silver
screen, whereby he was portrayed by Gary Cooper in Howard Hawks' seminal
morale-booster "Sergeant Pork" (which title owed more than a little to
Cockney Rhyming Slang). In fact I planned on seeing, whilst in Ohio, the
tree in the woods outside Chillicothe on which is said to be carved those
famous words "P. Briunt cilled a bar on tree in year 1760 wich im abut
aterclock rund year".

I suddenly realised I was lost! Something something Amarillo, Gallup New
Mexico, Tucson Arizona something something something. Was I headed in the
wrong direction? Should I have turned left at Albuqueque?

I saw a sign for "White Sands National Monument". Ah! That rang a bell.
Wasn't it round hereabouts Sugien put together the Manhattan Project? I
remember hearing the rumour - later confirmed in the General's authorised
biography - that Grove insisted Sugien put an end to his top secret missions
to the European Theater and personally oversee the day-to-day running of the
effort to build the world's first atomic bomb; while Sugien was adamant he
retain the ability to leave for the front at a moment's notice, and that he
train up an assistant to do the donkey-work. General Grove, a man's man and
a career soldier of the old school, challenged Sugien to a bare-knuckle
fight to decide whether Sugien, or the young scientist attached to him on
Work Experience - J. Robert Oppenheimer - should remain on site until a
weapon was ready. With one punch Sugien turned the General's spine to jello
and it was Oppenheimer, not Sugien, who went down in history as the
Destroyer of Worlds!

Notably, the fist-fight incident was omitted from *all* cinematic versions
of this most important event of the 20th century, despite almost every
soldier in the Allied forces having heard of it. I guess Sugien's heroics
are so ultra-secret they'll never be subject to FOI. It's just reassuring
that for so many Americans, evidence is superfluous. Faith is all they need.
Even my hire-car Dodge Viper had a bumper sticker proferring the simple
acronymic advice "WWSD".

It was here, at White Sands, that Sugien's interest in the possibility of
self-replicating computer code as a weapon was born. And just as that
thought occurred to me I was woken out of my reverie by a loud clatter, as
the rear bumper fell off and bounced along the road! I pulled over, got out
and took a whiz on a rock. There was an ominous rattling sound, then bits of
snake flesh splattered into the air! I pissed on my shoe as I took a step
backward and looked around for any sign of animation. After about 10 seconds
I heard a rifle crack, then silence.

Next week: the stuff that was supposed to be in this week's offering
(perhaps)!


David H. Lipman

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Oct 16, 2005, 9:04:40 AM10/16/05
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From: "Shane" <shaneb...@gmail.com>

| Chapter 2.
|
| I awoke on my back, in the middle of a haystack. After my inadvertent acid

< snip >

Shane:

I know you are having phun but....

Enough is enough !

--
Dave
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http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


Shane

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Oct 16, 2005, 9:42:48 AM10/16/05
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> Shane:
>

Dave

> I know you are having phun but....
>

Well, yeah. But I'm also demonstrating to the offensive little toad that,
yes, actually, I *can* take the piss out of him. I also intend to keep doing
so ad infinitum and possibly ad nauseum, at least until I hear he's dead
(hey, I once dreamt I was Satan!), but....

> Enough is enough !

....you're right. You may notice I have stopped directly responding to him.
I could have a more productive discussion with the garden wall; in the sense
of having a dialogue Sugien is demonstrably irrelevent.

Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job and apart from responding to
*them* if appropriate, I don't intend making further Soooge-bashing posts
here. I have begun to feel this is not the place for an endless campaign, so
I'll be putting material up on my site (and posting *links* here, again if
appropriate).


Shane


4Q

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Oct 16, 2005, 10:49:15 AM10/16/05
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Shane wrote:
> Chapter 2.
>
> I awoke on my back, in the middle of a haystack. After my inadvertent acid
> trip of the day before, I felt wonderful, rejuvenated, at peace; my mind was
> clear and sharp! I rolled over and was stuck by a little prick, and it came
> rushing back to me - OMIGAWD! SUGIEN! Even now I almost turned for home; but
> then I pictured him, his elbow in the bidet, knew I owed him everything and
> could not abandon him in his hour of need. I guess it was a good omen that
> I'd already found the needle. Now all I had to do was my ablutions, and sort
> the wheat from my chuff.

<snip> Excellent parody of the Internet turnip, Sugien.

<more>
> ...White Sands National Monument". Ah! That rang a bell.


> Wasn't it round hereabouts Sugien put together the Manhattan Project? I
> remember hearing the rumour - later confirmed in the General's authorised
> biography - that Grove insisted Sugien put an end to his top secret missions
> to the European Theater and personally oversee the day-to-day running of the
> effort to build the world's first atomic bomb; while Sugien was adamant he
> retain the ability to leave for the front at a moment's notice, and that he
> train up an assistant to do the donkey-work. General Grove, a man's man and
> a career soldier of the old school, challenged Sugien to a bare-knuckle
> fight to decide whether Sugien, or the young scientist attached to him on
> Work Experience - J. Robert Oppenheimer - should remain on site until a
> weapon was ready. With one punch Sugien turned the General's spine to jello
> and it was Oppenheimer, not Sugien, who went down in history as the
> Destroyer of Worlds!
>
> Notably, the fist-fight incident was omitted from *all* cinematic versions
> of this most important event of the 20th century, despite almost every
> soldier in the Allied forces having heard of it. I guess Sugien's heroics
> are so ultra-secret they'll never be subject to FOI. It's just reassuring
> that for so many Americans, evidence is superfluous. Faith is all they need.

Shit that statement must be so close the bone, no wonder any
democratic liberal minded loving American's must be so ashamed
of their rightwing opposite number.

Speaking of FOI (a great leveller imho), Dimbulbs military career
as a typewriter repairman in 'Nam and Internet cranks in general.
These groups are sometime subjected to the FIOA terrorist,
Barbara Schwarz. All you have to do is mention what a great guy,
freedom fighting research professor like Dave Touretzky (CMU.edu)
is and the demented bitch appears.

4Q

4Q

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Oct 16, 2005, 11:24:41 AM10/16/05
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4Q wrote:
> Shane wrote:
> > Chapter 2.

>
> Speaking of FOI (a great leveller imho), Dimbulbs military career
> as a typewriter repairman in 'Nam and Internet cranks in general.
> These groups are sometime subjected to the FIOA terrorist,
> Barbara Schwarz.

*correction FOIA terrorist, Barbara Schwarz

Incidently her family members were involved with this
secret bomb stuff, it's all a coverup to protect Sugien's
involvment. Splitting atoms is child play compared to
the String & Rope Theory shit he's messing around with
in his trailer now.

Beware everyone when Dimbulb Sugien finally ties some
fancy knots in his theories an alternate universe will
open up where he is no longer a retarded dimwit!

*Fear*

Sugien

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Oct 16, 2005, 2:22:04 PM10/16/05
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"Shane" <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Now I know where you went those several day you disappeared. It took
you that long to write that piece of crap? I know I have you under my
control when you feel compelled to write such ramblings. I know what it is
that *made* you write it. You can't handle me in a battle of wits; because
you have no wits with which to battle. So you take you paranoia and you
inferiority complex and write this trash. I would not mind if it were good;
but this is a mad mans delusions put to pen.
Now get cracking on the rest of it, I *COMMAND* you to do so, and of
course you can not. I suspect you will come back with some stupid shit
about how I can't command you; but you *will* write it just the same;
because I am now firmly in your subconscious and there like a combination
computer and biological virus I will stay. There is nothing you can do to
remove me from your mind. Your are getting stupider, and stupider, rofl


--
"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must."
- Edward George Bulwer-Lytton (1803-1873)
So don't blame me because I must do what I can

Sugien

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"Shane" <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Shane:
>>
>
> Dave
>
>> I know you are having phun but....
>>
>
> Well, yeah. But I'm also demonstrating to the offensive little toad that,
> yes, actually, I *can* take the piss out of him. I also intend to keep
> doing
AS I told you earlier you could not take the piss out of a boot with the
instruction on the heal

> so ad infinitum and possibly ad nauseum, at least until I hear he's dead
> (hey, I once dreamt I was Satan!), but....

What you were dreaming of what what was going to grab you when you die,
Satan *IS* real, whether or not you believe in him he does believe in you
and will be waiting. That gnawing feeling you have in the pit of you
stomach, is his fingers; because in life he gnaws at you stomach until you
die and he gets all of you. But I will pray for you; because even *you* are
not beyond redemption.


>
>> Enough is enough !
>
> ....you're right. You may notice I have stopped directly responding to
> him.

BS, but if you have it is only because you know you can not win, so you take
your ball and go home, well good riddance to bad rubbish

> I could have a more productive discussion with the garden wall; in the
> sense
> of having a dialogue Sugien is demonstrably irrelevent.

Well seeing as how you have many acid trips and talk to the garden wall most
every day, I see where you wit come from.

>
> Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job and apart from responding to
> *them* if appropriate, I don't intend making further Soooge-bashing posts

The twit 4Quitter and Laura are two made for each other, but the twit is a
non item and is banned; but I still command him to make pages about me;
because even though I don't read his shit, I know he has to be making lots
and lots of pages about me.

> here. I have begun to feel this is not the place for an endless campaign,
> so
> I'll be putting material up on my site (and posting *links* here, again if
> appropriate).
>

remember a while back, I posted and said I *might* make you create web pages
in my honor? well guess what you just proved my point! Is there anyone
making stories or web pages in ;your honor? no of course not. You and
others think doing such things makes me mad; but quite the contrary you are
only providing me with endless hours of enjoyment my knowing I have gotten
under someone's skin so much that they feel a need, no feel *compelled* by
me to create web pages about me. You are a pathetic little twit boy almost
in the same genre as the 4time-a-fag. But as I said in another post, all
you need do is to continue quoting him bashing my family and you likewise
will enter the nether world where I won't be reading you crap and you will
be relegated to the same place as the twit, where I only pray for you each
night; but don't read; because of you leaving off playing by the rules. But
of course you never were one to play by the rules any way. If you don't
wish to read my posts I sort of understand; because I don't read the twits;
but then he gave me a justifiable reason to not read him in that he attacks
non-combatants, I however do not, so your not reading me only means that you
*can not* handle the truth.

Laura Fredericks

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>Chapter 2.
<snip brilliance>

I love this stuff! You're a riot, Shane! I hope Rod is reading!

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Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:34:19 -0400, "Sugien"
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>The twit 4Quitter and Laura are two made for each other

Why thank you!

(Hey, 4Q! You need to post that lovely "erotic art" you did of
you and me on 4Q site, again!)

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Sugien

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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:43:34 GMT, "Shane"
> <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote in post:
>>Chapter 2.
> <snip brilliance>
>
> I love this stuff! You're a riot, Shane! I hope Rod is reading!
>
His story is only as good as his inspiration, namely *ME*, Just think
without me, how much you and others here would be missing? If I were a
vindictive person, I would just leave and let you all go back to you drab
uneventful life here in Usenet. Let all of you wallow in the depths of your
own depravity. I wonder how long I would have to stay gone before you all
started to turn on each other? I really should take the time to go back and
look at all the messages from when I took my last sabbatical, whoops, I
forgot, you all bought the plea for money and such, rofl, well I had to come
up with some story as to why I would not be here, lol
I would sure like to be behind a one way glass on the wall at a RL
meeting of all of you, when you all found out who and exactly what I really
am in RL. I can almost hear the thunder as all the jaws dropped and came
crashing to the floor. I wonder how many would run out and hire body
guards? Probably no one; seeing as how I am such a gentle, kind, loving
soul, te he he
Actually all the above is just bs, plane and simple don't believe a word
of it, really don't because some times I don't know when I am thinking or
typing, rofl. tra la, tra la, sis boom ba, who is he really, rah rah rah.
I just enjoy RL, and like to come here to play with the tiny minds.
Recently I had a friend ask me why I put up with the likes of all of you,
and I told them; because it is fun to play with those that have not got a
clue.
You know Laura, it is about time that you put up a page in my honor
don't you? I have given you enough time and material, so maybe I need to
needle you just a little more. But then you have to ask your self "does he
really want me to?, or is he just saying that so I won't?", only the shadow
knows, te he he

btw, tell all the little fleas, that they need to make an appearance, I am
getting board. But then again, maybe that is my plan, a way to just get all
of you to shut the hell up.

Sugien

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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:34:19 -0400, "Sugien"
> <sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post:
>>The twit 4Quitter and Laura are two made for each other
>
> Why thank you!
>
> (Hey, 4Q! You need to post that lovely "erotic art" you did of
> you and me on 4Q site, again!)
>

Sounds like you, proud to have *Pornographic* <puke> art created about
you. You must be stupider then even I gave you credit for; because you
don't know that the twit is laughing *AT* you , and *NOT* with you.

Barbara Schwarz

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I just appear when my name is smeared. How dare you to call me a
terrorist when your friend Dave Touretzky has bomb instructions on thew
web.

Barbara Schwarz


>
>
>
> 4Q

Barbara Schwarz

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4Q wrote:
> 4Q wrote:
> > Shane wrote:
> > > Chapter 2.
>
> >
> > Speaking of FOI (a great leveller imho), Dimbulbs military career
> > as a typewriter repairman in 'Nam and Internet cranks in general.
> > These groups are sometime subjected to the FIOA terrorist,
> > Barbara Schwarz.
>
> *correction FOIA terrorist, Barbara Schwarz
>
> Incidently her family members were involved with this
> secret bomb stuff,


How dare you to lie about my family. My family has nothing to do with
bombs or terrorism neither do have I, you lawless defamer. Your idol
Dave Touretzky is the one who shows terrorists or stupid juvenile the
way by putting bomb instructions up.

Now, take a hike, criminal.

Barbara Schwarz

Sugien

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"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> 4Q wrote:

>> Shane wrote:
> I just appear when my name is smeared. How dare you to call me a
> terrorist when your friend Dave Touretzky has bomb instructions on thew
> web.
>
> Barbara Schwarz

I agree with this post

4Q

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Dimbulb Sugien wrote:

> uneventful life here in Usenet. Let all of you wallow in the depths of your
> own depravity. I wonder how long I would have to stay gone before you all
> started to turn on each other? I really should take the time to go back and
> look at all the messages from when I took my last sabbatical, whoops, I
> forgot, you all bought the plea for money and such, rofl, well I had to come
> up with some story as to why I would not be here, lol

Mental hospital? *grin*

> I would sure like to be behind a one way glass on the wall at a RL
> meeting of all of you, when you all found out who and exactly what I really
> am in RL.

Are you an idiot? Did I guess right? Do I get a prize.

> Actually all the above is just bs, plane and simple don't believe a word
> of it, really don't because some times I don't know when I am thinking or
> typing, rofl.

*phew* what a relief, I thought you was some kind of secret agent
attached to your church vigilante group.

So can we go back to believing your beggin letter stuff
from last year?

http://fourq.host.sk/BASTARD_PHILOSOPHY/dimbulb/Good_byE.php


> tra la, tra la, sis boom ba, who is he really, rah rah rah.
> I just enjoy RL, and like to come here to play with the tiny minds.
> Recently I had a friend ask me why I put up with the likes of all of you,
> and I told them; because it is fun to play with those that have not got a
> clue.

Is he in the church secret agents club?

> You know Laura, it is about time that you put up a page in my honor
> don't you? I have given you enough time and material, so maybe I need to
> needle you just a little more. But then you have to ask your self "does he
> really want me to?, or is he just saying that so I won't?", only the shadow
> knows, te he he
>
> btw, tell all the little fleas, that they need to make an appearance, I am
> getting board. But then again, maybe that is my plan, a way to just get all
> of you to shut the hell up.

You're losing it more like ;]]


4Q

Sugien

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"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> 4Q wrote:
>> 4Q wrote:
>> > Shane wrote:
> How dare you to lie about my family. My family has nothing to do with
> bombs or terrorism neither do have I, you lawless defamer. Your idol
> Dave Touretzky is the one who shows terrorists or stupid juvenile the
> way by putting bomb instructions up.
>
> Now, take a hike, criminal.
>
> Barbara Schwarz

I agree with this post,
you should realize that he and the twit 4Q are both imo, the kind of people
that when someone is getting the better of them and they know they have no
chance of being able to do anything about it; because of the one that they
are mad at is vastly above there mental ability to counter. They will then
attack the persons family, or if they were to find the child of the person
whom they are mad at out somewhere, they would try and piss in the child's
cereal or any one of a number of other deranged things low life's like them
would do.
They know that they can't take me on, so the attack my family, I can
see now that it is a pattern. They pick a fight they have no chance of
winning, and then when their nose is rubbed in the fact that they have no
chance of winning, they then attack the only people they have a chance of
winning against, children and family members that don't read let along post
to such NG's.
Him and his friends teaching people to make bombs is news to me; but
seeing what type of person he is I should have guessed. Thanks for the
info, now I know where to find more on him should I decide to do a web
search my self instead of relying on what has been sent to me via email
about him.

4Q

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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> 4Q wrote:
> > Shane wrote:
> > > Chapter 2.
> > > soldier in the Allied forces having heard of it. I guess Sugien's heroics
> > > are so ultra-secret they'll never be subject to FOI. It's just reassuring
> > > that for so many Americans, evidence is superfluous. Faith is all they need.
> >
> > Shit that statement must be so close the bone, no wonder any
> > democratic liberal minded loving American's must be so ashamed
> > of their rightwing opposite number.
> >
> > Speaking of FOI (a great leveller imho), Dimbulbs military career
> > as a typewriter repairman in 'Nam and Internet cranks in general.
> > These groups are sometime subjected to the FOIA terrorist,

> > Barbara Schwarz. All you have to do is mention what a great guy,
> > freedom fighting research professor like Dave Touretzky (CMU.edu)
> > is and the demented bitch appears.
>
>
> I just appear when my name is smeared. How dare you to call me a
> terrorist when your friend Dave Touretzky has bomb instructions on thew
> web.
>
> Barbara Schwarz

*HAHAHAHA* wb, Babs. I've been dreaming about you again I put
your ratface on Kim Starks fat body and I cum almost instantly!


Luv
4Q

4Q

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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> 4Q wrote:
> > 4Q wrote:
> > > Shane wrote:
> > > > Chapter 2.
> >
> >
> > *correction FOIA terrorist, Barbara Schwarz
> >
> > Incidently her family members were involved with this
> > secret bomb stuff,
>
>
> How dare you to lie about my family. My family has nothing to do with
> bombs or terrorism neither do have I, you lawless defamer.

*HAHAHAH* Sorry Barbara, I might have got confused about you
lifes story... please can you retype it into here? *hehehehe*

> Your idol
> Dave Touretzky is the one who shows terrorists or stupid juvenile the
> way by putting bomb instructions up.
>
> Now, take a hike, criminal.
>
> Barbara Schwarz

Babs, I'm surprized you took so long to reply. The restaining
order on you hasn't slowed you down any has it?

4Q

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Oct 16, 2005, 5:15:20 PM10/16/05
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Sugien wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1129494254.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > 4Q wrote:
> >> 4Q wrote:
> >> > Shane wrote:
> > How dare you to lie about my family. My family has nothing to do with
> > bombs or terrorism neither do have I, you lawless defamer. Your idol
> > Dave Touretzky is the one who shows terrorists or stupid juvenile the
> > way by putting bomb instructions up.
> >
> > Now, take a hike, criminal.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> I agree with this post,

Well I called up the demon Barbara because I knew you two were
like two peas in a pod. As you have already stated you want to
be immortalized on the Interweb, So I gave you a sidekick
'Bat lady' Oops I meant 'Mad lady'. However Dimbulb you will have
to do a lot of catching up to become as famous as Barbara Schwarz,
the worlds biggest internet kook and infamous FOIA terrorist!
She's a fuckin legend, you are just a pup by comparison. *ROFL*


> you should realize that he and the twit 4Q are both imo, the kind of people
> that when someone is getting the better of them and they know they have no
> chance of being able to do anything about it;

Are you talking about Touretzky? Nah, he's way better than me!
He's a serious contender I'm just the towel boy by comparison.


> because of the one that they
> are mad at is vastly above there mental ability to counter. They will then
> attack the persons family, or if they were to find the child of the person
> whom they are mad at out somewhere, they would try and piss in the child's
> cereal or any one of a number of other deranged things low life's like them
> would do.
> They know that they can't take me on, so the attack my family, I can
> see now that it is a pattern. They pick a fight they have no chance of
> winning, and then when their nose is rubbed in the fact that they have no
> chance of winning, they then attack the only people they have a chance of
> winning against, children and family members that don't read let along post
> to such NG's.

Awwww, diddums. :((

> Him and his friends teaching people to make bombs is news to me;

Yeah it's news to me and I guess Touretzky will have one or two
things to say about it too.

> but
> seeing what type of person he is I should have guessed. Thanks for the
> info, now I know where to find more on him should I decide to do a web
> search my self instead of relying on what has been sent to me via email
> about him.

*HAHAHAHA* You've been searching for years and you've come up
with jack shit. Let me guess is this secret friend of your in
the Pentagon, and he's passed my "Most Wanted" poster on to you?

You know that $53 you squandered on them lottery tickets for the
$53 million jackpot, ask your Pentagon buddy if there is still a
$25 million bounty on my head, and will it only cost you $25 to
enter the lucky dip.


4Q (Spiritual leader of Al-4Qaeda)

YoKenny

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anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com typed:

> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:43:34 GMT, "Shane"
> <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote in post:
>> Chapter 2.
> <snip brilliance>
>
> I love this stuff! You're a riot, Shane! I hope Rod is reading!

Laura, I hope this isn't you in a few years. :)
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/toxicgranny.htm


Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:34:19 -0400, "Sugien"

<sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post to the very talented
Shane:


>Satan *IS* real, whether or not you believe in him he does
>believe in you and will be waiting.

Sugien *is* Satan!

On 15 Oct 2005 06:35:33 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
wrote in post:
>Dimbulb Sugien wrote:
>>I don't have a trailer, and never waved a gun out the window,
>>you are still taking Laura's lies for truth.
>
>Liar. We have the proof, there's plenty of your photos we've
>never released on to the Interweb.
(4Q's post: http://snipurl.com/ilqb)

PHOTO PROOF THAT SUGIEN IS SATAN!
http://snipurl.com/gyzt

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Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:44:16 -0400, "YoKenny"
<YoK...@nowere.invalid> wrote in post:


>Laura, I hope this isn't you in a few years. :)
>http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/toxicgranny.htm
>

Lol. I am and always will be:
http://snipurl.com/ilqz

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YoKenny

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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:44:16 -0400, "YoKenny"
> <YoK...@nowere.invalid> wrote in post:
>> Laura, I hope this isn't you in a few years. :)
>> http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/toxicgranny.htm
>
> Lol. I am and always will be:
> http://snipurl.com/ilqz

I don't trust snipurl and it is in my HOSTS file.
Evil Clown. LOL...
Why not makeashorterurl?
It gives the user a chance to bail out before being redirected to the target
site.


Ant

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Oct 16, 2005, 7:44:25 PM10/16/05
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"4Q" wrote:

> Sugien wrote:


>> "Barbara Schwarz" wrote:
>>> Now, take a hike, criminal.
>>>
>>> Barbara Schwarz
>>
>> I agree with this post,
>
> Well I called up the demon Barbara because I knew you two were
> like two peas in a pod. As you have already stated you want to
> be immortalized on the Interweb, So I gave you a sidekick
> 'Bat lady' Oops I meant 'Mad lady'. However Dimbulb you will have
> to do a lot of catching up to become as famous as Barbara Schwarz,
> the worlds biggest internet kook and infamous FOIA terrorist!
> She's a fuckin legend, you are just a pup by comparison. *ROFL*

Oh no! Now look what you've done :)

The black, the black! Like the endless blackness of space that leads
to the chasm of clams!
(with acknowledgements to The Fast Show)

To Sooge: I know you don't usually like what 4Q has to say, but
seriously, you should take note of his quoted text above.


Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:20:58 -0400, "YoKenny"
<YoK...@nowere.invalid> wrote in post:


>Why not makeashorterurl?
>It gives the user a chance to bail out before being redirected
>to the target site.

No fun when you wanna post goatse. ;-)

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4Q

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Sugien wrote:
> "Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tr85l1tiairnt7dmn...@4ax.com...
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> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:34:19 -0400, "Sugien"
> > <sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post:
> >>The twit 4Quitter and Laura are two made for each other
> >
> > Why thank you!
> >
> > (Hey, 4Q! You need to post that lovely "erotic art" you did of
> > you and me on 4Q site, again!)
> >
>
> Sounds like you, proud to have *Pornographic* <puke> art created about
> you. You must be stupider then even I gave you credit for; because you
> don't know that the twit is laughing *AT* you , and *NOT* with you.
>

*HAHAHA* she thinks she's going to get it in the cunt, but
I'm planning in the dirt box, a good ol' ass reaming for
you my dear! *evil laughter*


4Q

4Q

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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> 4Q wrote:
> > 4Q wrote:
> > > Shane wrote:
> > > > Chapter 2.
> >
> > >
> > > Speaking of FOI (a great leveller imho), Dimbulbs military career
> > > as a typewriter repairman in 'Nam and Internet cranks in general.
> > > These groups are sometime subjected to the FIOA terrorist,
> > > Barbara Schwarz.
> >
> > *correction FOIA terrorist, Barbara Schwarz
> >
> > Incidently her family members were involved with this
> > secret bomb stuff,
>
>
> How dare you to lie about my family. My family has nothing to do with
> bombs or terrorism neither do have I, you lawless defamer.

Barbara, I am extremely sorry I fucked my facts up
The Manhattan Project was under President Harry Truman
not your grandfather President Eisenhower. Please
accept my humble apologies for dragging your grandfather
Dwight Eisenhower into all of this...

p.s. I was sorry to hear about your recent loss in court
(again). Better luck in the future, I'm rooting for you!

> Now, take a hike, criminal.
>
> Barbara Schwarz


You little tease!

4Q

Laura Fredericks

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On 16 Oct 2005 17:04:39 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
wrote in post:


>*HAHAHA* she thinks she's going to get it in the cunt, but
>I'm planning in the dirt box, a good ol' ass reaming for
>you my dear! *evil laughter*

But(t) I like that. ;-)

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Sugien

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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:44:16 -0400, "YoKenny"
> <YoK...@nowere.invalid> wrote in post:
>>Laura, I hope this isn't you in a few years. :)
>>http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/toxicgranny.htm
>>
>
> Lol. I am and always will be:
> http://snipurl.com/ilqz
>
in your dreams, you are not even a good troll, you are now and always be my
puppet

Sugien

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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> On 16 Oct 2005 17:04:39 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
> wrote in post:
>>*HAHAHA* she thinks she's going to get it in the cunt, but
>>I'm planning in the dirt box, a good ol' ass reaming for
>>you my dear! *evil laughter*
>
> But(t) I like that. ;-)
>
I always knew you were stupid; but perverted also I see, and if you have to
stoop to his level, you must not have been laid for years.<ewwww how awful>

Sugien

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"Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote in message
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Thanks for the heads up, I did think it was kind of too pat and or
convenient. You just saved me some web searching. What I truly don't
understand about people here in this NG. Supposedly everyone here is
against virus writers and distributors; but the worse thing they can say
about me is that a few programs I wrote that I didn't give a little credit
where it was *maybe* due.
Then there is the twit, a confessed virus writer and spreader, and
what's more he admits to helping others learn how to write and spread virus
without getting caught. So what do the upstanding AV people here do? They
join in with the admitted virus writer and spreader to attack me? It just
does not make any sense.
Then all the AV people wonder why there are so many virus out there, I
think it has a lot to do with the virus writers and the anti virus people
being hand in glove; because without the one there is no need for the other.
I mean I can even understand the little twit poof 4quack; because he is an
asshole through and through and a coward and a wimp, and makes no bones
about not being such; but others here try and play both sides and then
wonder why they get so many virus wrote. It is because when someone like me
who is basically a good person whom has only made what some say here is a
mistake; but I have NEVER spread or taught anyone how to write a virus; but
they jump in and help the virus writer attack the non-virus writer, it just
does not make good sense.
I will continue praying for the little twit, and others here that are
on the road to hell; because that is the way I am, I would give someone the
shirt off my back if they need it, even if that person considered their self
to be my enemy. There is not a single person in the world that I hate or
consider an enemy. I don't hate 4quack or the others, I think what they do
is abhorrent; but they are still human beings, albeit misguided disgusting
human, but humans none the less.
As I said, I will continue to pray for them, and once again thanks for
the heads up on the *attempted* Social Engineering, I don't think I would
have fallen for it; because I already was leery of the post and only replies
that I agreed with it, and even though it was a fraud what it said was
correct.

Sugien

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"YoKenny" <YoK...@nowere.invalid> wrote in message
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That is probably closer to the truth then she would like for us to believe,
what with her posting pictures of her taken over 20 years ago and she looks
old in them!

Sugien

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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:34:19 -0400, "Sugien"
> <sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post to the very talented
> Shane:
>>Satan *IS* real, whether or not you believe in him he does
>>believe in you and will be waiting.
>
> Sugien *is* Satan!
>
> On 15 Oct 2005 06:35:33 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
> wrote in post:
>>Dimbulb Sugien wrote:
>>>I don't have a trailer, and never waved a gun out the window,
>>>you are still taking Laura's lies for truth.
>>
>>Liar. We have the proof, there's plenty of your photos we've
>>never released on to the Interweb.
> (4Q's post: http://snipurl.com/ilqb)
>
I can laugh at my self you can't can you turkey neck; but none of those
pictures are of me shooting out of a window are they!! and anyone can tell
from the background that a trailer does NOT look like that on the inside;
because that is inside a wood frame house. You should count your lucky
stars that I am a son of God and not Satan; because if I were I would not
wait for you and the twit to die, I would come and get you in your sleep.
When you wake up tonight in a cold sweat (and you will) because the
demons are in your dreams taunting you with what you can expect when you
die, just remember that I warned you ahead of time what to expect tonight in
you dreams.

Jeffrey F. Bloss

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Sugien wrote:

>> Barbara Schwarz
>
> I agree with this post,

Why do feathers and flocking togetherness suddenly spring to mind...?

--
Hand crafted on October 16, 2005 at 22:30:58 -0400

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx

Peter Seiler

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Oct 16, 2005, 1:58:57 PM10/16/05
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Shane - 16.10.2005 15:42 :

> Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job

[...]

NO, because they all mostly post/repost absolutely mass of OT! to this
ACA-V named NG with no relation to "anti-virus", only fighting a
childisch/unadult private/personal war, never understood the
meaning/construction of the Usenet-NGs, confuse the NG purely as
chatroom for their personal "phun", produce only huge
meaningless/endless threads/postings, make the NG more and more useless
and unreadable, shrink anti-virus related postings to perhaps 20%,
wasting bandwidth etc. etc..

So "enough should be enough" as David H. L. wrote.

--
by(e) PS
spam will be killed

Peter Seiler

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David H. Lipman - 16.10.2005 15:04 :

> From: "Shane" <shaneb...@gmail.com>
>
> | Chapter 2.
> |
> | I awoke on my back, in the middle of a haystack. After my inadvertent acid
>

> < snip >
>
> Shane:
>
> I know you are having phun but....
>
> Enough is enough !
>

agreed

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer

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Fuck off and die you whining sissy-boy!


"Peter Seiler" <pspr...@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:435294E1...@mailinator.com...


> Shane - 16.10.2005 15:42 :
>
>> Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job
>
> ...
>
> NO, because they all mostly post/repost absolutely mass of OT! to this
> ACA-V named NG with no relation to "anti-virus", only fighting a
> childisch/unadult private/personal war, never understood the
> meaning/construction of the Usenet-NGs, confuse the NG purely as
> chatroom for their personal "phun", produce only huge
> meaningless/endless threads/postings, make the NG more and more useless

> and unreadable, shrink anti-virus related postings to perhaps 20,


> wasting bandwidth etc. etc..
>
> So "enough should be enough" as David H. L. wrote.
>

4Q

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Oct 17, 2005, 6:29:20 AM10/17/05
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Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
> Fuck off and die you whining sissy-boy!
>
>
> "Peter Seiler" <pspr...@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:435294E1...@mailinator.com...
> > Shane - 16.10.2005 15:42 :
> >
> >> Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job
> >
> > ...
> >
> > NO, because they all mostly post/repost absolutely mass of OT! to this


"Fuck off and die you whining sissy-boy!"

I agree with this post.


*oh shit I better check I'm not being setup!*

4Q

p.s. For the asswipes in here complaining about polluting
the bastard son of ACV (ACA-V) I tried my best to stop this fucking
group being created in the first place, along with others such
as Nick fitzGerald (AVers). Everyone knew that Mr. Microsoft
Certificate (Stalker Steve) ego hadn't thought his little idea
through properly about creating a seperate Anti-Virus group when
Alt.Comp.Virus, a well established forum for Virus and Anti-Virus
discussions already catered for it all.

Anyone who doesn't like OT: material can use their filters or
simply don't read it (that's the best filter you've got).
Generally speaking I don't ruin the regular AV debates, I'm
a background lurker mostly.

Where is the fucker Stalker Steve these days anyhow. Has he
set any other groups up with his Microsoft Certificate lately?


> > meaningless/endless threads/postings, make the NG more and more useless
> > and unreadable, shrink anti-virus related postings to perhaps 20,
> > wasting bandwidth etc. etc..
> >
> > So "enough should be enough" as David H. L. wrote.

Honestly You should up your game a bit, these constant product
discussions of AV are boring to fuck. However I look forward
to the odd intelligent discussion Nick, Kurt, Guillermito add
to these forums.

Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:58:57 +0200, Peter Seiler
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>Shane - 16.10.2005 15:42 :
>
>>Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job
>

>NO, because they all mostly post/repost absolutely mass of OT!
>to this ACA-V named NG with no relation to "anti-virus", only
>fighting a childisch/unadult private/personal war, never

>understood themeaning/construction of the Usenet-NGs, confuse


>the NG purely as chatroom for their personal "phun", produce
>only huge meaningless/endless threads/postings, make the NG
>more and more useless and unreadable, shrink anti-virus
>related postings to perhaps 20%, wasting bandwidth etc. etc..

And *your* contribution to this OT thread would be?

Oh yes, "wasting bandwidth, etc. etc."

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Oct 17, 2005, 6:56:43 AM10/17/05
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Actually Dimbulb, I think your evidence is a little bit on the
thin ice.
*I'm free to study and discuss Virus/Anti-Virus with
other consenting adults.

*I've taken my idols (Dave Touretzky) advice on sensible limits.

*I have taken legal council with a lawyer.

*I have discussed my position with people in the Anti-Virus
industry.

* I have debated the acedemic merit of my research with
University scholars.

*looking into philosophical and technical aspects of AI/AL
with respect to VX/AV


I doubt your wanker church vigilante group can do much about
other peoples interests in *cough* FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS.
Your book burning days for others are over, you lot had better
get back to your inbreeding and whacko beliefs religion.

If you are leading this band of wankers in your church
vigilante group, one day someone with more sense than a
peanut is going to start asking questions about the Sugien
crank.

4Q

p.s. Dimbulb, noone here is ever going to be taken in with
your sincere act... all they need to do is read some of the
archives about you (a whack job) and your credibilty will
be affirmed. Anyone who is taken in, well what can I say,
they must be very dubious themselves.

p.p.s Sorry your ass kicking is really getting to you :))
*HAHAHA*

Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:16:57 -0400, "Sugien"
<sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post:
>...the worse thing they can say about me is that a few


>programs I wrote that I didn't give a little credit

Coderipper!

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Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:31:31 -0400, "Sugien"
<sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post:
>"Laura Fredericks" wrote in message

>>Lol. I am and always will be:
>>http://snipurl.com/ilqz
>>
>in your dreams

I thought you don't click on links I post?

Liar. Again.

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Laura Fredericks

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:23:06 -0400, "Sugien"
<sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post:
>...none of those pictures are of me shooting out of a window


>are they!! and anyone can tell from the background that a
>trailer does NOT look like that on the inside; because that is
>inside a wood frame house.

I thought you never click on the links I post.

Liar. Again.

>...I am a son of ... Satan

Really.

> When you wake up tonight in a cold sweat (and you will)
> because the
>demons are in your dreams taunting you with what you can
>expect when you die, just remember that I warned you ahead of
>time what to expect tonight in you dreams.

Sex with 4Q, like in the "erotic art"?

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Shane

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> > look at all the messages from when I took my last sabbatical, whoops, I
> > forgot, you all bought the plea for money and such, rofl, well I had to
come
> > up with some story as to why I would not be here, lol

Dimbulb doesn't like neighbour, decides to ruin neighbour's reputation.
Dimbulb goes out onto neighbour's lawn in broad daylight, strips naked and
starts wanking.


Shane


4Q

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Sugien wrote:
> "Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u6t5l1tkj0vqf76fu...@4ax.com...
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> > On 16 Oct 2005 17:04:39 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
> > wrote in post:
> >>*HAHAHA* she thinks she's going to get it in the cunt, but
> >>I'm planning in the dirt box, a good ol' ass reaming for
> >>you my dear! *evil laughter*
> >
> > But(t) I like that. ;-)
> >
> I always knew you were stupid; but perverted also I see, and if you have to
> stoop to his level, you must not have been laid for years.<ewwww how awful>

Yeah because people that like anal must be so desperate they
can't get missionary sex!

Isn't there some religious crap about this kind of stuff? Aren't
all ass reaming demons supposted to be going to hell or something.
Only the pure heavenly son of gods do it in the angelic twat region.

4Q

4Q

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4Q (dats me)wrote:

> Yeah because people that like anal must be so desperate they
> can't get missionary sex!
>
> Isn't there some religious crap about this kind of stuff? Aren't
> all ass reaming demons supposted to be going to hell or something.
> Only the pure heavenly son of gods do it in the angelic twat region.

I think his fat wife has her pubic hair cut into a godly heart
shape with an arrow pointing the way to heavens entrance.


4Q

Peter Seiler

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Laura Fredericks - 17.10.2005 12:54 :

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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:58:57 +0200, Peter Seiler
> <pspr...@mailinator.com> wrote in post:
>>Shane - 16.10.2005 15:42 :
>>
>>>Meanwhile 4Q and Laura do an excellent job
>>
>>NO, because they all mostly post/repost absolutely mass of OT!
>>to this ACA-V named NG with no relation to "anti-virus", only
>>fighting a childisch/unadult private/personal war, never
>>understood themeaning/construction of the Usenet-NGs, confuse
>>the NG purely as chatroom for their personal "phun", produce
>>only huge meaningless/endless threads/postings, make the NG
>>more and more useless and unreadable, shrink anti-virus
>>related postings to perhaps 20%, wasting bandwidth etc. etc..
>
> And *your* contribution to this OT thread would be?

a little try (assisting David H. Lipman) to open your and some others
OT-threadfiller eyes for stopping your endless OT behavior. Comparativ
to your and the others postings (hundreds? each in 3-4 relevant threads)
since your private war starts:

1. mine is only one or a few

2. my little engagement is to help to stop/reduce extreme
OT-posting/flame, making the NG more readable and friendly again

3. your destination seems to be only OT private flamewar and have "phun"
within a NG instead of doing email and/or go to a adaequate chatroom

> Oh yes, "wasting bandwidth, etc. etc."

look at my three points above and the difference between me and you in
behavior, wordexpressions, etc. etc.

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Nicky

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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:31:31 -0400, "Sugien"
> <sug...@horizonview.net> wrote in post:
>>"Laura Fredericks" wrote in message
>>>Lol. I am and always will be:
>>>http://snipurl.com/ilqz
>>>
>>in your dreams
>
> I thought you don't click on links I post?
>
> Liar. Again.

Prof. Soooooogs (Master of Dumbfuckery (hons) Duimbulb Univ) got busted for
the whiney rat faced liar he is! Nice one Laura :)

Nicky


4Q

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Peter Seiler wrote:

> a little try (assisting David H. Lipman) to open your and some others
> OT-threadfiller eyes for stopping your endless OT behavior. Comparativ
> to your and the others postings (hundreds? each in 3-4 relevant threads)
> since your private war starts:
>
> 1. mine is only one or a few

Oh Peter what happens when the Internet Police tell you
that is a one or few too many.

>
> 2. my little engagement is to help to stop/reduce extreme
> OT-posting/flame, making the NG more readable and friendly again

Yeah right. You mean an AV product listing of features and
benefits. When this group is full to overflowing with VX/AV
wisdom I for one will be too busy reading to flame.


> 3. your destination seems to be only OT private flamewar and have "phun"
> within a NG instead of doing email and/or go to a adaequate chatroom

He started it! ;]P

Anyhow you fail to understand we (OT flamers) are building a
concrete (archive) wall around these losers so others have the
benefit of not having to spend time wasted trudging though the
same crap in the future (well less painfully).

Where is the Millennium Dickhead, Brian Barlev these days?
Wasn't he the saviour of cyber-space fighting virus writers and
the like, until he was exposed with flame comedy. That was the
only weapon that could cut his delusions to shreads, he ignored
polite people such as yourself asking him the shut the fuck up.

>
> > Oh yes, "wasting bandwidth, etc. etc."
>
> look at my three points above and the difference between me and you in
> behavior, wordexpressions, etc. etc.

Look buddy, you take the high road and we'll take the low road.
*shrug*


4Q (slayer of dimbulbs)

Sugien

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"Nicky" <fecki...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not bloodily likely, I have the URL to a CGI, web site that shows what
the snipurl is pointing to. It is much like the one I used which Laura
didn't like and that is why she switched from tinyurl; because I could use
that other CGI, to she the name of the trash the links point to, so stick it
in your ear you are both WRONG!!
It does however give me quite a good time laughing at you and she when
you *think* you have caught something you could never catch; because it
never happens. Oh and is dumbfuckery, you RL sir name? must be hon; because
other wise you would have known about the CGI, that I and others used on her
other obfuscated URL's and you should have know I and others would find one
for this new one she uses. She do not use them for the same reason for
which they were created; because they were created for url's that are too
long and wrap, so she is using it for something it wasn't intended in effect
*stealing* their service by using if for something is was not created for.
I truly pity all the little fleas that have jumped on the flea circus
band wagon; because it shows everyone here that each and every one of you
by your self knows you don't have a chance against me, so you *must* gang up
to even come close and even with your ranks swelling and your flea circus
becoming more putrefied by the day you only show your unarmed for a duel of
wits.
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"Sugien" wrote:

> "Ant" wrote:
>> To Sooge: I know you don't usually like what 4Q has to say, but
>> seriously, you should take note of his quoted text above.
>
> Thanks for the heads up, I did think it was kind of too pat and or
> convenient. You just saved me some web searching. What I truly don't
> understand about people here in this NG. Supposedly everyone here is
> against virus writers and distributors; but the worse thing they can say
> about me is that a few programs I wrote that I didn't give a little credit
> where it was *maybe* due.

But you keep attempting to explain or defend yourself. Anyone else
would have done this once and ignored any further taunts.

> Then there is the twit, a confessed virus writer and spreader, and
> what's more he admits to helping others learn how to write and spread virus
> without getting caught. So what do the upstanding AV people here do? They
> join in with the admitted virus writer and spreader to attack me? It just
> does not make any sense.

Perhaps it's something to do with the way you present yourself. You're
always saying how this "Sugien" persona you've cultivated is not you
in real life. You complain about being attacked, but at the same time
say you are having fun parrying the wisecracks. You can't have it both
ways, and furthermore, it's nothing to do with being for or against
virus writing. It's all about how you appear to others in a text only
medium such as this, and it could be any newsgroup. If you want to be
taken seriously you have to develop the appropriate writing style. You
also need to be prepared to substantiate your arguments when
challenged, concisely, without sidetracks, and preferably without
insults if you don't want to start a flame war. When you make a
technical statement in a group like this, people will nit-pick over
precise details to see if you really know the subject or to clarify
any misunderstandings.

If it all bugged you that much you wouldn't be here.

You probably know most of this, but now you can claim you've SE'd me
into giving (at least part of) my perspective :)

[snip]

> As I said, I will continue to pray for them,

And another thing. Your religious beliefs are obviously important to
you, but they are of no concern to people in computer related groups.
Others will have their own belief system, which they prefer to keep
private.

> and once again thanks for
> the heads up on the *attempted* Social Engineering, I don't think I would
> have fallen for it; because I already was leery of the post and only replies
> that I agreed with it, and even though it was a fraud what it said was
> correct.

I'm not sure what you mean by fraud, but I'm not at all surprised the
Schw*rz woman appeared when her name, or that professor's name was
mentioned. She has some serious issues, and I think most would prefer
that ACV or ACAV were not filled with her blatherings. There's enough
off-topic blather from the likes of you, me, and the rest.


Laura Fredericks

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On 17 Oct 2005 08:11:09 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
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>I think his fat wife has her pubic hair cut into a godly heart
>shape with an arrow pointing the way to heavens entrance.

His FAT WIFE's pubic hair is probably as (heh) bushy and
overgrown as his eyebrows! Yuck!

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Laura Fredericks

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On 17 Oct 2005 12:14:49 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
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>Where is the Millennium Dickhead, Brian Barlev these days?

Ack! You mentioned his name! Look what happened when you
brought up Barbara Schwarz! :-/

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Laura Fredericks

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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:35:34 GMT, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net>
wrote in post:
>I liked the Rorschach ink blot test
>http://xrl.us/h27r

Hilarious! I've bookmarked it.

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4Q

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Laura Fredericks wrote:

4Q wrote (dats me)


> >I think his fat wife has her pubic hair cut into a godly heart
> >shape with an arrow pointing the way to heavens entrance.
>
> His FAT WIFE's pubic hair is probably as (heh) bushy and
> overgrown as his eyebrows! Yuck!

Anyhow it doesn't maTer how furry Glenda's twat is
it'll be covered under a mound of flab.


4Q

4Q

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4Q wrote:
> Anyhow it doesn't maTer how furry Glenda's twat is
> it'll be covered under a mound of flab.

Oops I should have said "furry Glenda's, furry twat is"

So the sex-pests can <google> on it quicker. :))


4Q

Stilllov...@myway.com

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Laura Fredericks wrote:
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> On 17 Oct 2005 12:14:49 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
> wrote in post:
> >Where is the Millennium Dickhead, Brian Barlev these days?
>
> Ack! You mentioned his name! Look what happened when you
> brought up Barbara Schwarz! :-/

What did happen? And what's so funny?

Barbara Schwarz


Meet my completely disturbed stalker, forger, threat maker, persecutor,

defamer, libeler Garry Lynn Scarff from Hollywood, California.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/e3f1d0383...

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=active&num=30&q=Garry+...

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Garry%20Scarff%2Bstalker%20&num=30&...

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Garry%20Scarff%2Bthreats&num=30&hl=...

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Garry%20Scarff&num=30&hl=en&lr=&saf...

http://freespeechstore.com/Qresults.asp?Search_Keyword=Scarff+&btnSea...

************
Brian J. Bruns is a convicted computer crime felon. He lies about me
maliciously in his "AHBL" website. He is the abuser. He tried to bully
me from the web as he dislikes that I have a right of free speech too.
Despite Bruns noticed thousands of malicious spam forgeries posted by
Garry Scarff under my name, he never tried to block his server
Earthlink.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.news-media/msg/1854c1412f78ba56?dm...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/4ee7c26c8...

About Bruns and other NANAE punks:
http://freespeechstore.com/Qresults.asp?Search_Keyword=kirch+bruns+so...

******************


Tory (Victoria Lee Christman) claims to be an expert on Scientology
despite her severe misunderstandings. If she would tell the truth, how
come she can't even convince her now former husband and son on that her

claims are correct? And what mother walks out of her only son to hang
with these guys? http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/index.html
What kind of mother is Tory?
http://www.parishioners.org/medianews/index.html

4Q

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Stilllov...@myway.com wrote:
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> > On 17 Oct 2005 12:14:49 -0700, "4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com>
> > wrote in post:
> > >Where is the Millennium Dickhead, Brian Barlev these days?
> >
> > Ack! You mentioned his name! Look what happened when you
> > brought up Barbara Schwarz! :-/
>
> What did happen? And what's so funny?
>
> Barbara Schwarz

In a sense we are lucky to have our ACV/ACA-V football
Dimbulb Sugien, because if we ever got Barbara Schwarz
paying us regular visits it would be like kicking a very
lose bag of small footballs that could break out every
fucking where. Now that really would kill this NG,
Peter Silage :))


4Q

Nicky

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"4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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If you take it up the ass does that mean you're going to hell too? I only
ask because Sooog's been getting his ass reamed on here a hell of a lot
recently <sniggers>

Nicky


Laura Fredericks

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:47:25 GMT, "Nicky"
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>If you take it up the ass does that mean you're going to hell
>too? I only ask because Sooog's been getting his ass reamed
>on here a hell of a lot recently <sniggers>

*hahhaha* *ROFL* *LMFAO* *hehHeHe*
(c) 4Q

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Peter Seiler

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>>If you take it up the ass does that mean you're going to hell
>>too? I only ask because Sooog's been getting his ass reamed
>>on here a hell of a lot recently <sniggers>
>
> *hahhaha* *ROFL* *LMFAO* *hehHeHe*

ha

> (c) 4Q
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Barbara Schwarz

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4Q wrote:
> Sugien wrote:
> > "Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote in message
> > news:diuoli$5o6$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > "4Q" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sugien wrote:
> > >>> "Barbara Schwarz" wrote:
> > >>>> Now, take a hike, criminal.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Barbara Schwarz
> > >>>
> > >>> I agree with this post,
> > >>
> > >> Well I called up the demon Barbara


New truthful website on net-lifter Dave Touretzky.

www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/

-----

Barbara Schwarz

Shane

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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:43:34 GMT, "Shane"
> <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote in post:
> >Chapter 2.
> <snip brilliance>
>
> I love this stuff! You're a riot, Shane! I hope Rod is reading

HeHe, thanks Laura!

Like I said there is a final chapter, though its an effort to write it. Next
chapter might be delayed as I' ve woken up - with no prior knowledge - in
hospital! Some fucker appears to have driven into me! I build my own bikes
so this likely to take a while, though last time - 1981 - I rebuilt the BSA
while arm and leg were in plaster. I don't remember writing with my other
hand tho!

Shane


Shane

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"4Q" <paul...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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This has been quite funny. That Spooge sure is inventive.

And I suppose he thinks when I say I dreamt I was Satan I was doing a
Sugien. Well, no, Spooge, you thick fucker, I wasn't lying, I was sharing an
insight.

Shane


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