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 More options Oct 12 2012, 1:32 pm
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From: "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:31:51 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 1:31 pm
Subject: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
Just got a call from somebody who uses Juno as their email
provider (yeah, I've tried to move them away from Juno in the
past... but they're not having any of it).

The situation is that people are receiving emails from that
person's Juno address and the people receiving the emails (on the
CC list) are all in that person's Juno address book.

Unencumbered by any real knowledge, I want to assume that
somehow, somebody harvested that person's Juno address book.

Are there other possibilities?
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 1:42 pm
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From: "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:42:24 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
Per (PeteCresswell):

>people are receiving emails

FWIW, the body of the emails was:

Hi!
http://thamizharmaiyam.in/data/home.php?friend_id=jdjrosfaqjqumj

I haven't got the heart to click on it... so I have no clue what
it represents.
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 2:51 pm
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From: FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:51:33 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
(PeteCresswell) explained on 10/12/2012 :

> Per (PeteCresswell):
>> people are receiving emails

> FWIW, the body of the emails was:

> Hi!
> http://thamizharmaiyam.in/data/home.php?friend_id=jdjrosfaqjqumj

> I haven't got the heart to click on it... so I have no clue what
> it represents.

Two redirects ending up on a work at home scam.

 
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 2:53 pm
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From: FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:53:26 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
(PeteCresswell) was thinking very hard :

> Just got a call from somebody who uses Juno as their email
> provider (yeah, I've tried to move them away from Juno in the
> past... but they're not having any of it).

> The situation is that people are receiving emails from that
> person's Juno address and the people receiving the emails (on the
> CC list) are all in that person's Juno address book.

> Unencumbered by any real knowledge, I want to assume that
> somehow, somebody harvested that person's Juno address book.

> Are there other possibilities?

Sometimes one captured e-mail can provide scammers/spammers with what
almost amounts to an address book. However, my feeling is that the
webmail dohicky was compromised.

 
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 4:53 pm
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From: Betty <ho...@all.y'all>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:53:12 -0500
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Just got a call from somebody who uses Juno as their email
> provider (yeah, I've tried to move them away from Juno in the
> past... but they're not having any of it).

> The situation is that people are receiving emails from that
> person's Juno address and the people receiving the emails (on the
> CC list) are all in that person's Juno address book.

> Unencumbered by any real knowledge, I want to assume that
> somehow, somebody harvested that person's Juno address book.

> Are there other possibilities?

Do you know when the event took place? Is your friend a Texan? I got an
invitation to join someone at LinkedIn around the first of August. That
person had a Juno email address. However, LinkedIn was also hacked in
June and passwords stolen.

I have not been in contact with the person for many years.


 
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 5:28 pm
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From: "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:28:12 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
Per Betty:

>Do you know when the event took place? Is your friend a Texan? I got an
>invitation to join someone at LinkedIn around the first of August. That
>person had a Juno email address. However, LinkedIn was also hacked in
>June and passwords stolen.

>I have not been in contact with the person for many years.

Pennsylvania, yesterday or today.
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 5:29 pm
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From: "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:29:28 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
Per FromTheRafters:

>webmail dohicky was compromised.

Can anybody give examples of the mechanism for doing something
like that?

Does it involve hitting the person's PC or going at the Juno
servers?
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 5:36 pm
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From: FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:36:51 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 5:36 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
It happens that (PeteCresswell) formulated :

> Per FromTheRafters:
>> webmail dohicky was compromised.

> Can anybody give examples of the mechanism for doing something
> like that?

> Does it involve hitting the person's PC or going at the Juno
> servers?

It could be as simple as correctly guessing the password (lucky guess
or brute force) or even by attacking the security question in the
'forgot my password' dialog. Hacking servers isn't out of the question
either.

There are also cases where the victim had a trojan keylogger and the
account was compromised that way.


 
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 More options Oct 13 2012, 9:14 am
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From: "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:14:54 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 13 2012 9:14 am
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
Per FromTheRafters:

>It could be as simple as correctly guessing the password (lucky guess
>or brute force) or even by attacking the security question in the
>'forgot my password' dialog. Hacking servers isn't out of the question
>either.

>There are also cases where the victim had a trojan keylogger and the
>account was compromised that way.

Can anybody comment on the probability of zombification?

i.e. Could that PC have acquired malware that actually sent the
spams from the PC?   Or is that too sophisticated for somebody
who is sending out such hokey spams?

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 More options Oct 13 2012, 10:10 pm
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From: FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:10:15 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 13 2012 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: Juno Addressbook Harvested?
(PeteCresswell) pretended :

> Per FromTheRafters:
>> It could be as simple as correctly guessing the password (lucky guess
>> or brute force) or even by attacking the security question in the
>> 'forgot my password' dialog. Hacking servers isn't out of the question
>> either.

>> There are also cases where the victim had a trojan keylogger and the
>> account was compromised that way.

> Can anybody comment on the probability of zombification?

> i.e. Could that PC have acquired malware that actually sent the
> spams from the PC?   Or is that too sophisticated for somebody
> who is sending out such hokey spams?

I suppose that it possible. I think it much more likely that there was
a weak password.

 
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