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6 Reasons DC’s Cinematic Universe Will Never Rival Marvel’s
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TMC
Apr 24, 2013, 7:01:14 PM4/24/13
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For decades now, comic book enthusiasts have debated the strengths and
weaknesses of “The Big Two” publishers, Marvel and DC. With movies
based on superheroes now bigger and more frequent than ever, the
debate has moved out of direct retailer shops and into the multiplex
and message boards. Cinematically, this battle has been severely one-
sided.
DC fans can cling to the wonderful, shiny treasure that is The Dark
Knight Trilogy, but as accomplished as that series may be, it’s over.
Meanwhile, Marvel fans have enjoyed an entire universe of films that
has been running strong for years with no signs of slowing down in the
foreseeable future. DC fans only see one sign of hope on the horizon
for this June.
As amazing as Man of Steel looks, there is no cause for DC loyalists
to get their hopes up for anything beyond a brilliant Superman film,
or series of Superman films. Even if Warner Bros. succeeds with Man of
Steel, it is highly unlikely the chants of “Make Mine Marvel” will be
silenced. DC might win the battle of Summer 2013, but the war was won
long ago.
This article looks at the six biggest reasons DC’s Cinematic Universe,
if there ever is one, will be unable to catch Marvel’s. Let’s get
started with the most obvious!
Read more at http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-rival-marvels.php#JtbjIYBOBVYk8GFe.99
For decades now, comic book enthusiasts have debated the strengths and
weaknesses of “The Big Two” publishers, Marvel and DC. With movies
based on superheroes now bigger and more frequent than ever, the
debate has moved out of direct retailer shops and into the multiplex
and message boards. Cinematically, this battle has been severely one-
sided.
DC fans can cling to the wonderful, shiny treasure that is The Dark
Knight Trilogy, but as accomplished as that series may be, it’s over.
Meanwhile, Marvel fans have enjoyed an entire universe of films that
has been running strong for years with no signs of slowing down in the
foreseeable future. DC fans only see one sign of hope on the horizon
for this June.
As amazing as Man of Steel looks, there is no cause for DC loyalists
to get their hopes up for anything beyond a brilliant Superman film,
or series of Superman films. Even if Warner Bros. succeeds with Man of
Steel, it is highly unlikely the chants of “Make Mine Marvel” will be
silenced. DC might win the battle of Summer 2013, but the war was won
long ago.
This article looks at the six biggest reasons DC’s Cinematic Universe,
if there ever is one, will be unable to catch Marvel’s. Let’s get
started with the most obvious!
Read more at http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-rival-marvels.php#JtbjIYBOBVYk8GFe.99
Bill Steele
Apr 25, 2013, 2:42:39 PM4/25/13
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In article
<a3ed652d-34fd-492d...@tz3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
TMC <tmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-rival-
> if there ever is one, will be unable to catch Marveląs. Letąs get
Marvel's characters have always been more -- pardon the expression --
human than DC's.
In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
Dark Knight may be an exception to both.
<a3ed652d-34fd-492d...@tz3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
TMC <tmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-rival-
> marvels.php
>
>
> For decades now, comic book enthusiasts have debated the strengths and
> weaknesses of łThe Big Two˛ publishers, Marvel and DC. With movies
>
>
> For decades now, comic book enthusiasts have debated the strengths and
> based on superheroes now bigger and more frequent than ever, the
> debate has moved out of direct retailer shops and into the multiplex
> and message boards. Cinematically, this battle has been severely one-
> sided.
>
> DC fans can cling to the wonderful, shiny treasure that is The Dark
> Knight Trilogy, but as accomplished as that series may be, itąs over.
> debate has moved out of direct retailer shops and into the multiplex
> and message boards. Cinematically, this battle has been severely one-
> sided.
>
> DC fans can cling to the wonderful, shiny treasure that is The Dark
> Meanwhile, Marvel fans have enjoyed an entire universe of films that
> has been running strong for years with no signs of slowing down in the
> foreseeable future. DC fans only see one sign of hope on the horizon
> for this June.
>
> As amazing as Man of Steel looks, there is no cause for DC loyalists
> to get their hopes up for anything beyond a brilliant Superman film,
> or series of Superman films. Even if Warner Bros. succeeds with Man of
> Steel, it is highly unlikely the chants of łMake Mine Marvel˛ will be
> has been running strong for years with no signs of slowing down in the
> foreseeable future. DC fans only see one sign of hope on the horizon
> for this June.
>
> As amazing as Man of Steel looks, there is no cause for DC loyalists
> to get their hopes up for anything beyond a brilliant Superman film,
> or series of Superman films. Even if Warner Bros. succeeds with Man of
> silenced. DC might win the battle of Summer 2013, but the war was won
> long ago.
>
> This article looks at the six biggest reasons DCąs Cinematic Universe,
> long ago.
>
> if there ever is one, will be unable to catch Marveląs. Letąs get
> started with the most obvious!
>
>
> Read more at
> http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-rival-
> marvels.php#JtbjIYBOBVYk8GFe.99
I'll offer two reasons:
>
>
> Read more at
> http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-rival-
> marvels.php#JtbjIYBOBVYk8GFe.99
Marvel's characters have always been more -- pardon the expression --
human than DC's.
In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
Dark Knight may be an exception to both.
Warewolf
Apr 25, 2013, 10:07:39 PM4/25/13
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Should the 'universes' of comix (DC, Marvel and Indie), cartoons/anime,
video games and other media collide, we're going to see some serious shit
(aka a better crossover film than Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and Wreck-It
Ralph, if that's possible).
Signed,
Warewolf
who can think of more than a few ways the plot can go (wrong)
video games and other media collide, we're going to see some serious shit
(aka a better crossover film than Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and Wreck-It
Ralph, if that's possible).
Signed,
Warewolf
who can think of more than a few ways the plot can go (wrong)
Bill Steele
Apr 26, 2013, 3:38:33 PM4/26/13
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In article <XnsA1ADC2940D7...@69.16.185.250>,
We have already seen the collision between Fawcett and DC. What went
wrong is pretty much what goes wrong when anything goes from comics to
movies.
wrong is pretty much what goes wrong when anything goes from comics to
movies.
Ken from Chicago
Apr 28, 2013, 6:22:14 AM4/28/13
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"Bill Steele" <ws...@cornel.edu> wrote in message
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<snip>
> I'll offer two reasons:
>
> Marvel's characters have always been more -- pardon the expression --
> human than DC's.
Marvel has a rep of being more realistic.
DC has a rep of being more iconic (e.g., DC characters have iconic costumes
while, except for Spider-Man & Captain America, Marvel's simply lack one,
even Fantastic Four have changed costumes over the decades).
That all said, for a "human" take on DC characters, exhibit one:
YOUNG JUSTICE.
It has the hands-down best take on DC characters, outside of Batman (it
rivals BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES and edges out Nolan by having Batman work
within the larger DC Universe not just a few non-powered DCU characters) in
tv and film--period.
> In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
> control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
"Original"?!!?
Bio-web shooters?
Captain America helmet?
Tony Stark AGAINST government regulation of superheroes? (Lest we forget,
Tony Stark had been a total jerk and hugely unpopular to Iron-Man fans for
years due to Civil War before the movie version. Even before then, Stark
Industries is the one that builds the SHIELD helicarriers and Avengers
quinjets.)
and, of course,
Nick Fury's "tan"?!
> Dark Knight may be an exception to both.
The MCU has been drawing a lot more from the Ultimate Marvelverse than
original recipe.
-- Ken from Chicago
news:ws21-B52E52.1...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...
<snip>
> I'll offer two reasons:
>
> Marvel's characters have always been more -- pardon the expression --
> human than DC's.
DC has a rep of being more iconic (e.g., DC characters have iconic costumes
while, except for Spider-Man & Captain America, Marvel's simply lack one,
even Fantastic Four have changed costumes over the decades).
That all said, for a "human" take on DC characters, exhibit one:
YOUNG JUSTICE.
It has the hands-down best take on DC characters, outside of Batman (it
rivals BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES and edges out Nolan by having Batman work
within the larger DC Universe not just a few non-powered DCU characters) in
tv and film--period.
> In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
> control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
Bio-web shooters?
Captain America helmet?
Tony Stark AGAINST government regulation of superheroes? (Lest we forget,
Tony Stark had been a total jerk and hugely unpopular to Iron-Man fans for
years due to Civil War before the movie version. Even before then, Stark
Industries is the one that builds the SHIELD helicarriers and Avengers
quinjets.)
and, of course,
Nick Fury's "tan"?!
> Dark Knight may be an exception to both.
original recipe.
-- Ken from Chicago
anim8rFSK
Apr 28, 2013, 3:29:33 PM4/28/13
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In article <ws21-B52E52.1...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
> > to get their hopes up for anything beyond a brilliant Superman film,
Brilliant!?!?!? It as best looks like "maybe this won't suck as bad as
Superman Returns, but it still looks like absolute garbage, and it's
just a matter of whether it's the worst Superman film ever made or the
second worst Superman film ever made.
> > or series of Superman films. Even if Warner Bros. succeeds with Man of
> > Steel, it is highly unlikely the chants of łMake Mine Marvel˛ will be
> > silenced. DC might win the battle of Summer 2013, but the war was won
> > long ago.
> >
> > This article looks at the six biggest reasons DCąs Cinematic Universe,
> > if there ever is one, will be unable to catch Marveląs. Letąs get
> > started with the most obvious!
> >
> >
> > Read more at
> > http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-riva
> > l-
> > marvels.php#JtbjIYBOBVYk8GFe.99
>
> I'll offer two reasons:
>
> Marvel's characters have always been more -- pardon the expression --
> human than DC's.
>
> In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
> control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
>
> Dark Knight may be an exception to both.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <a3ed652d-34fd-492d...@tz3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> TMC <tmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-riva
> > l-
> > marvels.php
> >
> >
> > For decades now, comic book enthusiasts have debated the strengths and
> > weaknesses of łThe Big Two˛ publishers, Marvel and DC. With movies
> > based on superheroes now bigger and more frequent than ever, the
> > debate has moved out of direct retailer shops and into the multiplex
> > and message boards. Cinematically, this battle has been severely one-
> > sided.
> >
> > DC fans can cling to the wonderful, shiny treasure that is The Dark
> > Knight Trilogy, but as accomplished as that series may be, itąs over.
> > Meanwhile, Marvel fans have enjoyed an entire universe of films that
> > has been running strong for years with no signs of slowing down in the
> > foreseeable future. DC fans only see one sign of hope on the horizon
> > for this June.
> >
> > As amazing as Man of Steel looks, there is no cause for DC loyalists
Amazing?
> In article
> <a3ed652d-34fd-492d...@tz3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> TMC <tmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-riva
> > l-
> > marvels.php
> >
> >
> > For decades now, comic book enthusiasts have debated the strengths and
> > weaknesses of łThe Big Two˛ publishers, Marvel and DC. With movies
> > based on superheroes now bigger and more frequent than ever, the
> > debate has moved out of direct retailer shops and into the multiplex
> > and message boards. Cinematically, this battle has been severely one-
> > sided.
> >
> > DC fans can cling to the wonderful, shiny treasure that is The Dark
> > Knight Trilogy, but as accomplished as that series may be, itąs over.
> > Meanwhile, Marvel fans have enjoyed an entire universe of films that
> > has been running strong for years with no signs of slowing down in the
> > foreseeable future. DC fans only see one sign of hope on the horizon
> > for this June.
> >
> > As amazing as Man of Steel looks, there is no cause for DC loyalists
> > to get their hopes up for anything beyond a brilliant Superman film,
Superman Returns, but it still looks like absolute garbage, and it's
just a matter of whether it's the worst Superman film ever made or the
second worst Superman film ever made.
> > or series of Superman films. Even if Warner Bros. succeeds with Man of
> > Steel, it is highly unlikely the chants of łMake Mine Marvel˛ will be
> > silenced. DC might win the battle of Summer 2013, but the war was won
> > long ago.
> >
> > This article looks at the six biggest reasons DCąs Cinematic Universe,
> > if there ever is one, will be unable to catch Marveląs. Letąs get
> > started with the most obvious!
> >
> >
> > Read more at
> > http://whatculture.com/film/6-reasons-dcs-cinematic-universe-will-never-riva
> > l-
> > marvels.php#JtbjIYBOBVYk8GFe.99
>
> I'll offer two reasons:
>
> Marvel's characters have always been more -- pardon the expression --
> human than DC's.
>
> In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
> control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
>
> Dark Knight may be an exception to both.
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Bill Steele
Apr 29, 2013, 1:35:27 PM4/29/13
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In article <klit30$j8i$1...@dont-email.me>,
Kryptonian telekinetic powers
Mutant Penguin
Superman has a kid
The whole Jor-El computer personality thing
And I can't help thinking about that stupid live-action Justice League
thing from a couple decades ago.
Come to think of it, fewer DC characters have made it to movies than
Marvels, so they've had less opportunity to screw up.
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
> > control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
>
> "Original"?!!?
>
> Bio-web shooters?
> Captain America helmet?
> Tony Stark AGAINST government regulation of superheroes? (Lest we forget,
> Tony Stark had been a total jerk and hugely unpopular to Iron-Man fans for
> years due to Civil War before the movie version. Even before then, Stark
> Industries is the one that builds the SHIELD helicarriers and Avengers
> quinjets.)
>
> and, of course,
>
> Nick Fury's "tan"?!
Valid points. But then there's
> > In Marvel films, the comic book geeks have always maintained more
> > control, and kept the films more faithful to the original.
>
> "Original"?!!?
>
> Bio-web shooters?
> Captain America helmet?
> Tony Stark AGAINST government regulation of superheroes? (Lest we forget,
> Tony Stark had been a total jerk and hugely unpopular to Iron-Man fans for
> years due to Civil War before the movie version. Even before then, Stark
> Industries is the one that builds the SHIELD helicarriers and Avengers
> quinjets.)
>
> and, of course,
>
> Nick Fury's "tan"?!
Kryptonian telekinetic powers
Mutant Penguin
Superman has a kid
The whole Jor-El computer personality thing
And I can't help thinking about that stupid live-action Justice League
thing from a couple decades ago.
Come to think of it, fewer DC characters have made it to movies than
Marvels, so they've had less opportunity to screw up.
Ken from Chicago
Apr 29, 2013, 4:11:58 PM4/29/13
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"Bill Steele" <ws...@cornel.edu> wrote in message
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compounded by far MORE Marvel superhero movies than DC ones:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe/XvX_bZBHFd0/GX7HoqyKqE0J
-- Ken from Chicago
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